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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

I just wish we could find enough “left” Americans who still thought censorship was an abomination to fill a bucket.

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

I posted at a professional site about the Censorship Industrial Complex panel in London.

It wasn't deleted but the moderator immediately reminded everyone not to post conspiracy theories.

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Bryan Winchell's avatar

They don’t like to be shown their own shadow. Instead, they want to project it onto the rest of us and deny it exists by gaslighting us with terms like “conspiracy theory.”

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

Oh yeah, the cult is *very* upset by the censorship reporting of late. They’ve already decided that Matt (but not the other TF journalists I guess?) was just paid off by Musk to make it all up, and that’s the end of it.

Ignoring the massive, Titanic-sized pile of evidence in the room, of course.

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TWC's avatar

Which ones? Lol

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

The So-called Democrats

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MichelleD's avatar

Russia Gate for starters.

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MichelleD's avatar

Hahaha

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Mark Blair's avatar

If Musk ends up "forced" to censor, perhaps he could start censoring "pro-abortion content" under the umbrella concept of "hate speech" to make a point.

The left used to care because they were the targets of censorship. They may need to be reminded of why this matters to all of us.

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Andrew Thomas's avatar

If what laughably passes for the left today are creatures of the MICIMATT, they have nothing to worry about. The real left- anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, ever critical of corporate agendas and the inverted totalitarian corporate state, have already been silenced, except in the marginal media, which Matt’s presence in makes less marginal. Of course, one of the reasons for that may be that he has become a darling of the right, because the right is as politically illiterate as the Democrats are now. I don’t think Matt has changed at all since he was covering the GOP convention in 2008. It’s just that now the entire political class is entirely batshit crazy. If the right ever catches on to that, Matt will be tossed to the margins with Chomsky, Hedges, Nader et al, I fear. Having said that, the chance that any quasi- political grouping so utterly politically illiterate that it regards Biden and his ilk communists are unlikely to catch on to anything.

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Mark Blair's avatar

Agreed that Matt hasn't changed at all.

If the right ever gets the levers of control back, the push for Internet censorship will come from them again. Human nature.

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Stephen Henderson's avatar

I always read Matt and other voices on the left that I respected, precisely because I don't want to live in a bubble. Im not alone, easily 20% of both political party supporters do this. It's the small percentage on either side that make all the noise and get all the attention.

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TWC's avatar

Pretty astute comment, this.

What u point to bothers me. A lot.

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druzus's avatar

I'd like this comment 100 times if I could.

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Andrew Thomas's avatar

Thank you, druzus.

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Joshua's avatar

You've made an excellent point here that I can't believe I hadn't thought of prior. Often people try to illustrate the dangers of censorship and point out that the pendulum swings both ways. Your thought here is an excellent way of giving that lesson more immediacy.

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Bob Morris's avatar

I know of at least one person on Twitter who dropped the "private businesses can do what they want" talking point re: what happened to Daily Wire. That same person, I suspect, was having a conniption back when Musk bought Twitter.

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David 1260's avatar

I feel that most everyone I used to associate with has exited the room to go join the authoritarians. I don't recognize there being a Left anymore.

I find Bridget Phetasy's Substack Politically Homeless to be a poignant reminder of my refugee status.

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

Hard same. I just try to avoid serious discussions when in company. Sad.

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Andrew Thomas's avatar

Need to check that out. Thanks for mentioning it.

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Jane in Michigan's avatar

I wish Nat Hentoff was still around. He would be horrified at all this and would speak out

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