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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

You are right there is misinformation on both sides. Mueller's report was NOT misinformation. The way the MSM covered it was distraction from the issues that the DNC did not want discussed in the media, specifically M4A. Did you read HateInc?

Trump's LIE, that he won the election was Misinformation that right wing media VALIDATED with Trumps base.

The issue is what people do with the Misinformation. Do the ignore candidates that are running on issues they support because they are distracted with hype and exaggeration or do they attack the CAPITAL based on a lie repeated and exaggerated by the media.

My point stands. The Misinformation has gone too far. At this point we either allow it to go on and lose our democracy or we reduce and keep our democracy.. We can't have both

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"My point stands. The Misinformation has gone too far. At this point we either allow it to go on and lose our democracy or we reduce and keep our democracy.. We can't have both"

But look at how the misinformation is being battled: the party in power enlists powerful, monopolistic corporate interests to do its dirty work. I would argue that this will accomplish the opposite of preserving democracy. For one thing, what information do voters wind up with at the end of such a process?

We agree that both of these parties engage in misinformation. The Democrats spam us with Trumpalooza and Wokealooza 24/7 to distract us from seeing they have no intention of really changing the money and power dynamics in this country. The Republicans have for decades been the masters of stirring up culture war outrage to distract from their agenda of turning 80% of the country into peasants, if not serfs. Each will take power in turn, and each will censor the bits they don't like. What are the people left with? If democracy depends on an informed public, then ideally the public needs access to the broadest range of information sources. They're already not getting that from a tightly-controlled corporate media. What then are they left with in a future in which the screws are tightened even further in the name of stamping out misinformation -- all on behalf of conniving misinformers?

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

I hear you. I am not saying i have the answers to this other than that we cannot allow massive amounts of the voting public to have this level of misinformation swimming through their minds and driving them to personal and public destruction of the nation.

I will be listening to what Wu says and does and hope that this subject is robustly debated and acted on.... If it is not then we wont survive...

And yes, the Republicans Agenda is turning Americans, its supporters in particular, into surfs. That alone should be a reason to change the first amendment

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Russiagate:”Mueller was almost held in Criminal Contempt of court for saying there was a connection between the Russian Government and election tampering. They had NO EVIDENCE and had to drop the charges : A HOAX!

U.S. Attorney General William Barr and Robert Mueller III violated court rules in public statements (Mueller Report) about a Russian firm accused of interfering in the 2016 presidential election, a federal judge in Washington has ruled, while stopping short of disciplining either Justice Department leader.

https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2019/07/08/judge-warns-prosecutors-about-public-statements-in-case-against-russian-firm/?slreturn=20201020210308

Concord Management LLC, 12 Trolls v USA

United States District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich’s presiding Judge in Russian Interference,

"Mueller did not establish a Kremlin connection to the Internet Research Agency (IRA), which the report claimed was the Kremlin’s tool social media campaigns seeking to influence the 2016 election”.

https://www.courthousenews.com/judge-chides-us-over-statements-tied-to-mueller-prosecution/

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