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LaVerne Karras's avatar

John Diefenbaker, trailing Lester Pearson in 1957[in Canadian Federal election], was asked what he thought of the polls.

He replied, ā€œI was always fond of dogs as they are the one animal that knows the proper treatment to give to poles.ā€ ~Brampton Guardian

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Robin Keller's avatar

Just when you thought the hypocrisy couldn’t be greater and the dishonesty couldn’t be more pervasive, you find out you were wrong. I know all about it and yet still believed the election would be a cliffhanger . Don’t the lefty institutions understand they can’t get away with this stuff anymore? Thanks to Matt, Bari, Walter and others.

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Shortstack's avatar

It is the hubris of the NYT and Wikipedia that leads them to disregard or downplay any polls that don't arrive at the "right" result. The NYT "knew" Real Clear Politics were off because their own biased poll showed different numbers, and Wikipedia "knew" it was off because their leftist political leanings are identical to the NYT.

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Spiderbaby's avatar

I really can't say this enough.

I will miss Joe 'Sharp as an Oreo" Biden when he finally wanders off of history's stage.

Unless he can't find the exit...

I offer this recent video of Safari Joe wandering off into the rain forest as a reminder that the most powerful country in the world has been run by a cartoon character for 4 years.

And 1/2 the adults in the room never even noticed.

https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1858241070309732658

The only thing missing was Ron "Tarzan" Ely in a loincloth leading Joe out of the jungle & back to safety.

I lost it at the little wave Joe gave before he meandered.

It was perfection.

If I would have been there I would have waved back at the old guy.

Maybe hit him with a thumbs up.

If anyone ever comes up with a Bizarro Mt. Rushmore for the immortalizing of Safari Joe I am so there.

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FNR's avatar

so left-wing jerkoffs can't accept reality and need their quickly-dwindling audience to believe elections are close when they aren't?

what a shock. lefties are usually so in love with reality and logic and reason and accuracy, this is just so hard to believe! must be Trump's fault.

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LaVerne Karras's avatar

EVERYONE, including the right wing jerkoffs, should love reality, logic, reason and accuracy, it's just that those in charge are manipulative, pathological liars, ON BOTH SIDES.

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FNR's avatar

true, but it's at least 70/30 these days.

pregnant men, "bloodbath," "send troops against enemies," "prison camps," "dictator," "trans women have no physical advantage," "fine people" hoax for seven years, Hilter hoax, "they're fascists!" followed by "everything is going to be ok, folks!" ... I can go on and on and on and on.

of course both sides lie, but over the last 10 or so years, one side is DOMINATING the lies and bullshit. it's not even close and I cannot stand either party.

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Spiderbaby's avatar

So Joe Biden, a brain addled lame duck president, stewing in a soup of bitterness, senility & betrayal, takes a huge step toward WW3 and no one in his party of equally bitter losers & cry babies, who just had their candidate & their philosophy curb stomped by an orange game show host, seems to notice.

Yep. I can see why the liberals are "the smart ones."

No doubt.

Really.

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FNR's avatar
Nov 19Edited

"curb stomped by an orange game show host"

lmao!!

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RioRosie's avatar

I think I'll give more weight to what I'll call my neighbor's Windshield Poll. He's a landscaper and drives all over the county to mow lawns, etc., here is deepest deep blue Massachusetts. He reported two days before the election that he saw "a shitload" of Trump lawn signs.

Now, VP Dipshit did in fact win Massachusetts, but Trump received more votes than he did in 2020.

Further, Sen. Elizabeth Warren actually LOST in two counties.

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Shortstack's avatar

The NYT and Wikipedia, among others, fancy that they are in better touch with the electorate than real polls because, well, they tell their readers what to think and therefore how to vote. What they fail to to recognize is that not only their shrinking readership not represent a cross-section of the electorate, but it is an echo chamber subset of many varied points of view. That they consider themselves in touch with America is laughable. That they manipulate the weighting of polls based on their gut feel is unprofessional. That they were astounded at the election outcome was entirely predictable by anyone but themselves. They are all hacks and amateurs but don’t know it.

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mike Myhre's avatar

There is a sure way to verify an election.

I have asked a question (2) in the previous podcast but it was never answered.

I have sent Matt a private message, but he never responds.

If people don't like the idea, then let's at least debate it.

https://mikemyhre.substack.com/p/proving-the-vote

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Tom-from-Canada's avatar

My understanding is the Internal polls have 3-4x the sampling, and cost 10x. It sounded like the Trump Campaign was more than willing to show their data - as they were very confident, but Media ignored it. Meanwhile they did report on the Harris campaign "confidence" .

Many of these establishment campaigns are just a trough for the Political Elites to feast off. It was obvious from Hillary Email Hack - where her campaign spent $180K on hot dogs. Infowars made it a kid ring, and the NYT mocked it, serous people laughed But what happened to the 1M hot dogs? I don't remember any 1M person Hillary rallies. So where did the money go for the invisible hot dogs? Looked like no one was interested in what is obviously a kick back. Start pulling the thread - and the entire tapestry unravels.

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SGC's avatar

312!

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