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Mike Rube's avatar

Your Trump is a con man. So is Biden. The US is an oligarchy. By the way your Trump is a total whore and slut. Always has been. Oligarchies, and reality, suck.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Mike Rube Nilhist, no that is not exactly right. Mark Rube Holier than thou.

I asked you for some objective data to support your opinion. All I get is more ad hominem.

I get that the US is an oligarchy (as are all countries that I can think of (I would be happy for an example of an exception.)

If Trump is a con man, it sure seems like he has conned the oligarchs into being very afraid of him. So much so that they have literally taken apart our whole legal and social structure to keep him a) off the ballot and b) from getting elected again -- and they aren't sure that they can do that, which is why they are working so hard under a).

Do you vote? If so, why? And why do you bother commenting here?

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Mike Rube's avatar

The contradictions are incredible. Trump is antiestablishment and Biden is pro. And yet Trump gets plenary of exposure while progressives get zero. Meanwhile we really are an oligarchy. For real! And yet for some reason the Democrats are running the absolute worst candidate they could run! Worse than Hillary! Wow! There are many Democrats they could run, Newsom for one, yet theyтАЩre running an 80 year old dementia victim. What a wacky world. IтАЩve been thru the Bernie, Hillary, Obama, and Trump, etc. Bernie never had a chance. In the end he was too lame anyway. ItтАЩs likely Trump will win, because itтАЩs a set-up. Oligarchies create puppets not leaders. Goldman Sachs will be standing by his side, just like before. And the corporations will win again.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Well Mike, thanks for your response to my query/challenge.

TPTB are shooting themselves in the foot IMHO. You say Trump gets plenty of exposure, but is is all genitive and they try as much as they can to talk up his opponents to no avail. Why because most of us on the right feel like he was cheated out of a second term, that everything that is going to hell in a hand basket in this country and the world would not be happening if Trump and his policies were in place. TPTB in DNC & Barry Sotero and Soros et al, don't want any competition on the left for Biden, as he couldn't stand up to it (and for him to shift further to the left would make him way too toxic for any sane Democrat, much less the independents and even the Never Trumper RINOs.

My take on it is that Biden is standing in for Bathhouse Barry Sotero, in other words he is a puppet whose doing the bidding of BHO (or the people behind BHO), a defacto illegal 3rd Obama term, but what the hell, they installed Biden through a totally corrupted election with Big Tech, MSM (hell, the NYT news editor told his writers that it was OK to lie in Trump stories to make him look bad--not that they needed a hell of a lot of encouragement, the whole federal bureaucracy (suppression of the Hunter laptop story changed enough votes to deny Trump re-election, the state and federal court systems in significant key states allowing unprecedented legal and illegal changes in voting procedures, vote counting irregularities vote harvesting irregularities (2000 Mules); What did JR Biden say, they had the most extensive voter fraud operation ever, or words to that effect, and no one said anything --'oh that is just crazy old Joe ... And then when documentation of those irregularities, documented opportunities for fraud were presented to the courts they were all denied a hearing for 'lack of standing or some such thing--Hell, if voters don't have standing to challenge an election outcome who does?

Newsome would want to run his own show, and they didn't want that, TPTB wanted a corrupt, amoral, senile old guy that they could manipulate to do Soros, BHO's bidding--look at the Obama administration holdovers in Biden's administration.

They were confident, that having 'defeated' Trump in a crooked election, and framing him with the set up J6 charade with Fed agents peppered throughout the crowd (e.g., Ray Epps), Antifa and BLM dressed up as MAGA, selective editing of the videotapes and with Pelosi's hand picked RINOs on the committee, and then waiting to see if he still persisted to charge him with bogus federal and state cases in the run up to the 2024 election, that he would not survive all of that, they could get a conviction on something, but they were too clever by half, not clever enough and seem to be hoist on their own petard.

The lies and fallout from the 'Plandemic' have been found out by enough of the population that no one, well hardly anyone believes the MSM, the federal bureaucracy, the captured federal and state health agencies, huge chunks of the population no longer trust mainstream medicine, nor Big Pharma.

Trump will win (depending upon the amount of election cheating that they can pull off--but I think that it will be very hard--the lions are not asleep any more), but not because it is a set up, but because those of us on the right (and a lot in the center) now understand what went down in 2020 & 2022 and still today, and I think ol' Joe is going down.

Now, it may well be that they twist Pedo Joe's arm, or arrange for him to have an unfortunate accident, or see that he has a stroke or something and insert: Take your pick: Newsome, Big Mike (Michelle Obama), (Hillary would like a second shot, but I don't think TPTB would let her, she would lose badly. And perhaps they can get gruesome Newsome across the finish line, but I think he is toxic outside of California and a few very blue states.

You are right, Trump will likely win, not because it is a set up, but because they overplayed their hand and because Slo China Joe fucked up Ukraine, the Middle East, and the Far East, in spite of being on everybody's payroll under the table.

If I am wrong, you better brush up on your Mandarin, assuming that we aren't all nuclear waste by then.

Thanks for listening, and thanks for an interesting reply from someone who I perceive as being on the left, though I am not always astute about those inferences.

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