This bigot can say whatever he wants... Up to the point of inciting violence, which he has done. If someone showed up to campus in a white hood and a burning cross saying we should hang black people from trees, I wonder how different the reaction would have been. As for his deportation, if he's got a green card, not sure how you pull tha…
This bigot can say whatever he wants... Up to the point of inciting violence, which he has done. If someone showed up to campus in a white hood and a burning cross saying we should hang black people from trees, I wonder how different the reaction would have been. As for his deportation, if he's got a green card, not sure how you pull that off or even if we should. That said, I don't want to import more bigots like this guy.
As a former green card holder (now naturalized citizen) I can tell you that that there are extensive provisions limiting one’s behavior during the period of your green card. Some of the limitations are reasonable; others seem capricious, but the information given to green card holders makes it very clear that their status in the US is somewhat tenuous.
Right. It is this simple. And sure, protesting on college campuses is nothing new, going back to the '30's and so forth. But these protesters were CITIZENS.
Bigotry is perfectly legal. Are you so sure you’re not bigoted in some way? If he has broken the law, that’s a separate issue. So far, he’s been kidnapped snd held against his constitutional privileges, (which protect all people, not just citizens). He has not been charged with any crime.
Glenn Greenwald explains all of this very clearly on yesterday’s program.
When a free person is taken by force from his family, held indefinitely without charge in a secret location, without access to legal aid, then kidnapping is probably the most appropriate description I can think of.
kidnapped you say? who kidnapped him? what is strange about this kidnapping is that he has 19 attorneys and most kidnapping usually doesn't involve any attorneys.
He was seized by government agents, without being charged with an actual crime, and transported 1000 miles away to a facility in Louisiana. It took some time before his wife and lawyers even knew where he was. If this was done to you, or a family member, yeah, I think you'd consider it kidnapping.
Seized? Or kidnapped? If he was kidnapped, it would be the first kidnapping in world history where the kidnapped person has 19 lawyers. BTW, how did he get 19 lawyers? Who is paying that legal bill? Hmmmm.
Obama did away with Habeas Corpus (protected by the Fifth Amendment at one time) in favor of indefinite detention. He and the government were sued by Chris Hedges and others, but the case dismissed for "lack of standing."
If you don’t think the murder of Hind Rajab, or the forced, government approved, sodomization of captives, or withholding medicines so the children have to undergo amputations without anesthesia. or the destruction of an entire culture, are evil, then we have nothing more to discuss.
No it's not. Glenn provides the OTHER side of the Israel-biased story, which you just don't like. Perhaps if you didn't outright dismiss that additional information, you might have a more nuanced and contextualized view on the matter.
he’s been kidnapped—he's registered in the DHS database
held against his constitutional privileges—his lawyers were in court on his behalf today
He has not been charged with any crime—
Here is what the Admin said yesterday:
Mahmoud Khalil is being deported under section 237(a)(4)(C)(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which allows for the removal of any alien “whose presence or activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.”
On Tuesday, a White House official said in comments to The Free Press…Khalil is a “threat to the foreign policy and national security interests of the United States,” the official said. “The allegation here is not that he was breaking the law.”
This is not a free speech issue, the admin is claiming this is a national security issue, which is well within established precedent. (Khalil also most likely lied on his Green Card form in re support for designated terror orgs.)
Also, Glenn Greenwald hates Israel in that passionate way only Leftist Jews can. He is not an unbiased or even fair source here.
"The allegation here is not that he was breaking the law." FULL STOP. Anything beyond that means he's being prosecuted for constitutionally protected rights. Anytime any government official claims "national security interests," you know they're lying about evil acts. As to being a threat to the "foreign policy of the United States," piss on that. I've spent my entire adult life protesting the "foreign policy" du jour of the Unites States, which is my patriotic right as an engaged citizen. Green Card holders have the same speech rights. You think this is all fine, because the industrial scale slaughter visible to the entire world doesn't bother your conscience. There are fanatical, nutcase Israeli citizens among the faculty and student body at Columbia who aren't being threatened with deportation, even though they've committed acts of intimidation and violence against students, including spraying them with the same noxious "skunk spray" the Israeli Occupation Forces use against Palestinians. This is a clear case of viewpoint discrimination, all in defense of genocide. Congratulations. You're among the Good Germans of our times.
100%. These pro-Israel folks are so blinded by their bias (and, in many cases, racism toward Arabs), they can't recognize they've been propagandized by the hasbara.
Some of them have described Palestinians as "sub-human," and one lady told me that every person in Gaza over the age of 4 was a terrorist, so she didn't care what happened to any of them.
He was registered in the DHS database in the wrong location. His lawyers filed habeas corpus paperwork in New York, because the database said that's where he was. But he'd been moved - without notification to his wife or legal representatives - to New Jersey without the database being changed. Next, he's shipped to freaking Louisiana, 1000 miles from his wife and legal representatives. Why? Why not keep him in NYC? Still, no actual charges filed against him. Kidnapping or disappearance, call it what you wish. Denial of swift access to legal representation. And the Orwellian "this is a national security issue," which can mean anything and everything. Read that key sentence again: White House official says "The allegation here is not that he was breaking the law." In other words, they're just making shit up. Which, if allowed to stand, threatens the rights of all of us. All a "White House official" has to do is utter the magic incantation "national security issue," and poof! the Bill of Rights disappears.
As I noted above "Obama did away with Habeas Corpus (protected by the Fifth Amendment at one time) in favor of indefinite detention. He and the government were sued by Chris Hedges and others, but the case dismissed for "lack of standing."
That ship has sailed! The Bill of Rights was a great ideal, but not functional in a security state where all rights can be dismissed with a casual, unquestionable "National Security!" Look at the First Amendment, January 6th Trumpers, and compare to Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" Letter (like Matt Taibbi, Jefferson was a great writer but not much of a speaker): laphamsquarterly.org/revolutions/tree-liberty
I focused on your first sentence. I also read down to your last sentence which is the one I replied to: “I don’t want to import bigots like this guy.” May I point out that accusing someone of bigotry without any evidence of it is, what’s the word? Bigotry. But thankfully, bigotry is not the basis for our legal system. Am I supposed to object to an imported bigot, but tolerate a homegrown one? And the larger point is that protesting mass murder is not bigotry. I learned that long ago when my own government was engaged in it, and I was similarly harassed by people who supported that particular mass murder.
I was kicked out of school, arrested, beaten up, and more, for protesting. And today, my whole generation has been exonerated, as I deeply believe the protesters at Columbia and around the world will someday be.
Do you think free speech includes property damage in the millions? Harming school employees?
I can only guess your experience was in the past, because today these feckless schools encourage this by giving free room and board to non-students, and IF there is a punishment, it is quickly retracted.
I posted this elsewhere, but I think it addresses your question as well:
“I’ve heard it stressed that the 1st Amendment protects all people on American soil from interdiction of speech based on the content of that speech. This never addresses the manner of the speech. I can say pretty much what I wish, but obviously saying it at full volume at midnight or painting it on your forehead, is another matter. It’s an error to conflate the content of speech with the manner of its delivery.”
@Sera - "It’s an error to conflate the content of speech with the manner of its delivery.”
Sera, your too-pat analysis avoids the reality that protest speech is often quite intentionally delivered in a provocative form, with the intention of daring authorities to cross the line from keeping public order to suppressing protected speech.
Then how about we put Professor Shai Davidai, fanatical nutcase Israeli prof at Columbia, on the first plane back home? He's as bigoted as they come. Maybe round up and charge those at Columbia (some of them likely Israelis, too) who sprayed protesters with the noxious "skunk spray" used by the Israeli Occupation Forces against Palestinians? While we're at it, there's video footage of the violent assaults committed by Israel supporters against protesters at UCLA. No actions taken against those thugs yet. Because they're YOUR thugs.
Jim, take a breath. The good news is that at tomorrow's encampment, uncle Soros will still be providing you with a catered lunch. Don't forget your hammers and video cameras so you can break more windows and film it and then say the zionists did it. Jim, you're such a card.
Fuck off. I’m not on any Soros payroll. I’m a U.S. citizen opposed to U.S. support of genocide. U.S. support that runs into the tens of billions of dollars, leading directly to the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people who are NOT my enemies.
Listen, schmuck: I'm not at any encampment. I'm following the news, as a concerned citizen of the United States. Watching as the supporters of Israeli genocide are seeking to impose Israel's apartheid laws onto my country: grab a Palestinian from his home without any legal charges or due process, disappear him into the jail system, ship him a thousand miles away from his family and access to his lawyers - all because he's considered by people like you to be a lesser being, an untermensch. And just so you know: I'm no fan of Soros.
Take off your own fun-house mirror glasses, and pay attention to the actual threat to constitutional rights that this represents.
Yes, from your parents basement, in your drawers, with cookie crumbs on your shirt, you're fully aware of events and have the perspective needed. Good job. Now get out of bed, ring the bell, and your mom will bring you your lucky charms and donuts, how any growing bit should start the day.
Not true, but nice try. He has been remanded to custody for violating his green card status . Not a free speech issue. If greenwald is your basis for argument, come back later when you have something. You sound like those idiots in the demokrat party. Aoc comes to mind.
I'm perfectly capable of defining what's good and what is not. The "who gets to define bigotry" excuse is a cop out. It's how America got where it is, not defending THE TRUTH.
Glenn Greenwald hates israel, is ambivalent about Hamas and hates the idea of Israel defending itself. He has no ability to be rational on this topic, as he has covered one side of this war and ignored the other. On most other topics, Glenn is a rational reporter. On this topic, he is so journalistically compromised that his pretense of objectivity is laughable.
The nearest 'reporter' to Glenn on the topic of Israel is Candace Owens. Great company.
Excuse me, but there are a LOT of Jews who are appalled at the genocidal actions of this foreign state. It does not represent us, neither as Jews, nor as US citizens, and the sooner it gets cut off from US arms, funds, and diplomatic cover, the better the world will be. There is NO activity in support of Palestinian rights that doesn't get accused of being "antisemitic," because the Israel-Uber-Alles brigade deliberately conflates Judaism with the Israeli State. Perfectly peaceful calls for boycotts, sanctions, and divestment? Shock! Horror!! It's the next Holocaust!!! Meanwhile, Israel slaughters Palestinians on the regular, steals their land and water, demolishes their houses, and makes clear that there is no place for them in the Jewish ethno-state: it's leave, or die. It's not antisemitic to protest this. And oh, by the way, some of the very same buildings at Columbia where students sat in, or blockaded, had been the site of identical actions during the movement to end the US War on Vietnam. Students also organized against South African apartheid, with sit-ins, etc. And of course we have the history of the Civil Rights Movement in earlier decades, complete with much civil disobedience. Were we all "terrorists"?
You might distinguish between Jews and Zionists, some here are touchy about such nuances.
And while Judaism now seems the official protected religion of the US (in contradiction to the First Amendment), that's only in DC (where it matters), and a few other major cities. US Involvement in Israel as in Ukraine no longer seems supported by the majority of Americans.
That's it? At least try to make up more creative stories around the Hamastan campfire tonight. What do you guys do once you've broken into buildings at the U? Oh right, you send out spokespeople that tell the world you're oppressed and need food brought to you. dude, you have to do better.
Oh, shove it. You and your genocide-supporting buddies are funded in the hundreds of millions of dollars by the Adelsons, Sabans, and all the AIPAC types. Outright bribery of the US political system, in the service of a foreign state. It's you who claim perpetual victimhood.
I admire your commitment to mythology. Are those the tales you whisper lovingly in the unshowered ears of your hamastan lovers while you're smashing windows and demanding the public feeds you for free. Or are you still on parental welfare?
You are absolutely right in your assessment of Glenn’s pathological hatred of Israel. It is not limited to the current war; it is longstanding seems like a mental illness.
The mental illness is believing Glenn has a "pathological hatred of Israel." Criticizing the zionist policies of Israel's government, as he does with ANY government, including the US, is absolutely justified.
Just a couple of notes - For non-citizens (even green card holders), constitutional protections are privileges (it's more about the obligations on the government than the benefit of the person). For citizens, they are rights. Deportation is *always* an option until citizenship is obtained (even for green card holders). It's a simple question of what was done in the first place to warrant action. Standing in place and protesting (regardless of the cause) is one thing, and even if I disagree, I don't object to people doing that. Not allowing people to enter or pass through because of a perceived bias is something entirely different. That's disruption, and should not be tolerated.
Bullshit. "Enemies" of whom? Declared to be terrorists by the same government that considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist. Israel has had several Prime Ministers who were first-class terrorists, for real. Israel has one right now.
Israel was founded, and has been led, by an unending string of terrorists. They are terrorists by any definition and were called that from the very beginning, by Einstein, Arendt, and everyone in my family and circle who were present at the founding of that (so called) country.
TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES:
“Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.” Signed by Einstein, Arendt and others, 1948.
And pro Palestinian professors that randomly cancel all classes, just willy nilly giving every student an A on their mid term because classes are canceled. As a parent, not sure that would be supported for my generous $90,000 a year tuition. So theirs a bunch of shit to unpack at Columbia, I’m happy funding got pulled. With the private schools and their massive endowments, why the hell are they getting funding anyway ?
This bigot can say whatever he wants... Up to the point of inciting violence, which he has done. If someone showed up to campus in a white hood and a burning cross saying we should hang black people from trees, I wonder how different the reaction would have been. As for his deportation, if he's got a green card, not sure how you pull that off or even if we should. That said, I don't want to import more bigots like this guy.
As a former green card holder (now naturalized citizen) I can tell you that that there are extensive provisions limiting one’s behavior during the period of your green card. Some of the limitations are reasonable; others seem capricious, but the information given to green card holders makes it very clear that their status in the US is somewhat tenuous.
Exactly. Big difference between being a citizen and non-citizen.
Right. It is this simple. And sure, protesting on college campuses is nothing new, going back to the '30's and so forth. But these protesters were CITIZENS.
As a former green card holder and now citizen I can attest to this.
Bigotry is perfectly legal. Are you so sure you’re not bigoted in some way? If he has broken the law, that’s a separate issue. So far, he’s been kidnapped snd held against his constitutional privileges, (which protect all people, not just citizens). He has not been charged with any crime.
Glenn Greenwald explains all of this very clearly on yesterday’s program.
"Kidnapped"? Come on. I subscribe to Glenn but skip all the "Israel is evil Hamas is good" episodes, which now is about 80% of his programming.
When a free person is taken by force from his family, held indefinitely without charge in a secret location, without access to legal aid, then kidnapping is probably the most appropriate description I can think of.
kidnapped you say? who kidnapped him? what is strange about this kidnapping is that he has 19 attorneys and most kidnapping usually doesn't involve any attorneys.
Kidnapping? Are you sure?
He was seized by government agents, without being charged with an actual crime, and transported 1000 miles away to a facility in Louisiana. It took some time before his wife and lawyers even knew where he was. If this was done to you, or a family member, yeah, I think you'd consider it kidnapping.
Seized? Or kidnapped? If he was kidnapped, it would be the first kidnapping in world history where the kidnapped person has 19 lawyers. BTW, how did he get 19 lawyers? Who is paying that legal bill? Hmmmm.
19 lawyers hardly matter if they don't know where you are and you don't have access to them.
How did they find him? Being kidnapped and all.
Not easily!
Lol, sure
Obama did away with Habeas Corpus (protected by the Fifth Amendment at one time) in favor of indefinite detention. He and the government were sued by Chris Hedges and others, but the case dismissed for "lack of standing."
Maybe his 19 attorneys kidnapped him
Please, my heart breaks for my imprisoned brother.
If you don’t think the murder of Hind Rajab, or the forced, government approved, sodomization of captives, or withholding medicines so the children have to undergo amputations without anesthesia. or the destruction of an entire culture, are evil, then we have nothing more to discuss.
And if you support terrorists who strangle child hostages (Ariel and Kfir Bibas), then we have nothing more to discuss.
Finally. Will you please shut up? Thanks
I hope you don't mind if I borrow this pithy reply for future use.
So, you are saying that Hamas' activities on 10/7 are evil?
I can agree with that!
Wow, did you just get off the range here? Like zero to 60
No it's not. Glenn provides the OTHER side of the Israel-biased story, which you just don't like. Perhaps if you didn't outright dismiss that additional information, you might have a more nuanced and contextualized view on the matter.
lol, so glenn is hamas? that is the other side of the story.
That's smart @MG, you wouldn't want to open yourself up to alternate views.
I used to subscribe to Glenn and liked a lot of his content, but he lost me with his constant haranguing of Israel. It became too repetitive.
he’s been kidnapped—he's registered in the DHS database
held against his constitutional privileges—his lawyers were in court on his behalf today
He has not been charged with any crime—
Here is what the Admin said yesterday:
Mahmoud Khalil is being deported under section 237(a)(4)(C)(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which allows for the removal of any alien “whose presence or activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.”
On Tuesday, a White House official said in comments to The Free Press…Khalil is a “threat to the foreign policy and national security interests of the United States,” the official said. “The allegation here is not that he was breaking the law.”
This is not a free speech issue, the admin is claiming this is a national security issue, which is well within established precedent. (Khalil also most likely lied on his Green Card form in re support for designated terror orgs.)
Also, Glenn Greenwald hates Israel in that passionate way only Leftist Jews can. He is not an unbiased or even fair source here.
"The allegation here is not that he was breaking the law." FULL STOP. Anything beyond that means he's being prosecuted for constitutionally protected rights. Anytime any government official claims "national security interests," you know they're lying about evil acts. As to being a threat to the "foreign policy of the United States," piss on that. I've spent my entire adult life protesting the "foreign policy" du jour of the Unites States, which is my patriotic right as an engaged citizen. Green Card holders have the same speech rights. You think this is all fine, because the industrial scale slaughter visible to the entire world doesn't bother your conscience. There are fanatical, nutcase Israeli citizens among the faculty and student body at Columbia who aren't being threatened with deportation, even though they've committed acts of intimidation and violence against students, including spraying them with the same noxious "skunk spray" the Israeli Occupation Forces use against Palestinians. This is a clear case of viewpoint discrimination, all in defense of genocide. Congratulations. You're among the Good Germans of our times.
100%. These pro-Israel folks are so blinded by their bias (and, in many cases, racism toward Arabs), they can't recognize they've been propagandized by the hasbara.
Some of them have described Palestinians as "sub-human," and one lady told me that every person in Gaza over the age of 4 was a terrorist, so she didn't care what happened to any of them.
I've often seen comments like that, too. It's astounding how effective the hasbara is at fomenting hate.
Gulag Jim. Fits on a bumper sticker.
What the fuck are you talking about? Make a reasonable argument, or go away.
Sorry. I used a big word and confused you. Just have someone literate read it to you slowly. You got this my man!
He was registered in the DHS database in the wrong location. His lawyers filed habeas corpus paperwork in New York, because the database said that's where he was. But he'd been moved - without notification to his wife or legal representatives - to New Jersey without the database being changed. Next, he's shipped to freaking Louisiana, 1000 miles from his wife and legal representatives. Why? Why not keep him in NYC? Still, no actual charges filed against him. Kidnapping or disappearance, call it what you wish. Denial of swift access to legal representation. And the Orwellian "this is a national security issue," which can mean anything and everything. Read that key sentence again: White House official says "The allegation here is not that he was breaking the law." In other words, they're just making shit up. Which, if allowed to stand, threatens the rights of all of us. All a "White House official" has to do is utter the magic incantation "national security issue," and poof! the Bill of Rights disappears.
As I noted above "Obama did away with Habeas Corpus (protected by the Fifth Amendment at one time) in favor of indefinite detention. He and the government were sued by Chris Hedges and others, but the case dismissed for "lack of standing."
That ship has sailed! The Bill of Rights was a great ideal, but not functional in a security state where all rights can be dismissed with a casual, unquestionable "National Security!" Look at the First Amendment, January 6th Trumpers, and compare to Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" Letter (like Matt Taibbi, Jefferson was a great writer but not much of a speaker): laphamsquarterly.org/revolutions/tree-liberty
Sera 💯
Re-read my first sentence. Try to focus.
I focused on your first sentence. I also read down to your last sentence which is the one I replied to: “I don’t want to import bigots like this guy.” May I point out that accusing someone of bigotry without any evidence of it is, what’s the word? Bigotry. But thankfully, bigotry is not the basis for our legal system. Am I supposed to object to an imported bigot, but tolerate a homegrown one? And the larger point is that protesting mass murder is not bigotry. I learned that long ago when my own government was engaged in it, and I was similarly harassed by people who supported that particular mass murder.
I was kicked out of school, arrested, beaten up, and more, for protesting. And today, my whole generation has been exonerated, as I deeply believe the protesters at Columbia and around the world will someday be.
Do you think free speech includes property damage in the millions? Harming school employees?
I can only guess your experience was in the past, because today these feckless schools encourage this by giving free room and board to non-students, and IF there is a punishment, it is quickly retracted.
I posted this elsewhere, but I think it addresses your question as well:
“I’ve heard it stressed that the 1st Amendment protects all people on American soil from interdiction of speech based on the content of that speech. This never addresses the manner of the speech. I can say pretty much what I wish, but obviously saying it at full volume at midnight or painting it on your forehead, is another matter. It’s an error to conflate the content of speech with the manner of its delivery.”
@Sera - "It’s an error to conflate the content of speech with the manner of its delivery.”
Sera, your too-pat analysis avoids the reality that protest speech is often quite intentionally delivered in a provocative form, with the intention of daring authorities to cross the line from keeping public order to suppressing protected speech.
You avoided answering the question.
Didn’t you just accuse someone on here of perhaps bigotry?
Yes, bigots suck and we shouldn't import more of them. How controversial.
Then how about we put Professor Shai Davidai, fanatical nutcase Israeli prof at Columbia, on the first plane back home? He's as bigoted as they come. Maybe round up and charge those at Columbia (some of them likely Israelis, too) who sprayed protesters with the noxious "skunk spray" used by the Israeli Occupation Forces against Palestinians? While we're at it, there's video footage of the violent assaults committed by Israel supporters against protesters at UCLA. No actions taken against those thugs yet. Because they're YOUR thugs.
Jim, take a breath. The good news is that at tomorrow's encampment, uncle Soros will still be providing you with a catered lunch. Don't forget your hammers and video cameras so you can break more windows and film it and then say the zionists did it. Jim, you're such a card.
Fuck off. I’m not on any Soros payroll. I’m a U.S. citizen opposed to U.S. support of genocide. U.S. support that runs into the tens of billions of dollars, leading directly to the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people who are NOT my enemies.
I didn't say you are paid. I said you get free food at the encampment. Try to focus.
Listen, schmuck: I'm not at any encampment. I'm following the news, as a concerned citizen of the United States. Watching as the supporters of Israeli genocide are seeking to impose Israel's apartheid laws onto my country: grab a Palestinian from his home without any legal charges or due process, disappear him into the jail system, ship him a thousand miles away from his family and access to his lawyers - all because he's considered by people like you to be a lesser being, an untermensch. And just so you know: I'm no fan of Soros.
Take off your own fun-house mirror glasses, and pay attention to the actual threat to constitutional rights that this represents.
Yes, from your parents basement, in your drawers, with cookie crumbs on your shirt, you're fully aware of events and have the perspective needed. Good job. Now get out of bed, ring the bell, and your mom will bring you your lucky charms and donuts, how any growing bit should start the day.
Not true, but nice try. He has been remanded to custody for violating his green card status . Not a free speech issue. If greenwald is your basis for argument, come back later when you have something. You sound like those idiots in the demokrat party. Aoc comes to mind.
I really like Glenn, but had to snooze him lately.
No, the Constitution applies to Americans. Non citizens are guests.
It also applies to legal immigrants. Research better.
I'm perfectly capable of defining what's good and what is not. The "who gets to define bigotry" excuse is a cop out. It's how America got where it is, not defending THE TRUTH.
Glenn Greenwald hates genocide. This is not unique to “leftist Jews”.
Glenn Greenwald hates israel, is ambivalent about Hamas and hates the idea of Israel defending itself. He has no ability to be rational on this topic, as he has covered one side of this war and ignored the other. On most other topics, Glenn is a rational reporter. On this topic, he is so journalistically compromised that his pretense of objectivity is laughable.
The nearest 'reporter' to Glenn on the topic of Israel is Candace Owens. Great company.
Excuse me, but there are a LOT of Jews who are appalled at the genocidal actions of this foreign state. It does not represent us, neither as Jews, nor as US citizens, and the sooner it gets cut off from US arms, funds, and diplomatic cover, the better the world will be. There is NO activity in support of Palestinian rights that doesn't get accused of being "antisemitic," because the Israel-Uber-Alles brigade deliberately conflates Judaism with the Israeli State. Perfectly peaceful calls for boycotts, sanctions, and divestment? Shock! Horror!! It's the next Holocaust!!! Meanwhile, Israel slaughters Palestinians on the regular, steals their land and water, demolishes their houses, and makes clear that there is no place for them in the Jewish ethno-state: it's leave, or die. It's not antisemitic to protest this. And oh, by the way, some of the very same buildings at Columbia where students sat in, or blockaded, had been the site of identical actions during the movement to end the US War on Vietnam. Students also organized against South African apartheid, with sit-ins, etc. And of course we have the history of the Civil Rights Movement in earlier decades, complete with much civil disobedience. Were we all "terrorists"?
You might distinguish between Jews and Zionists, some here are touchy about such nuances.
And while Judaism now seems the official protected religion of the US (in contradiction to the First Amendment), that's only in DC (where it matters), and a few other major cities. US Involvement in Israel as in Ukraine no longer seems supported by the majority of Americans.
That's it? At least try to make up more creative stories around the Hamastan campfire tonight. What do you guys do once you've broken into buildings at the U? Oh right, you send out spokespeople that tell the world you're oppressed and need food brought to you. dude, you have to do better.
Oh, shove it. You and your genocide-supporting buddies are funded in the hundreds of millions of dollars by the Adelsons, Sabans, and all the AIPAC types. Outright bribery of the US political system, in the service of a foreign state. It's you who claim perpetual victimhood.
I admire your commitment to mythology. Are those the tales you whisper lovingly in the unshowered ears of your hamastan lovers while you're smashing windows and demanding the public feeds you for free. Or are you still on parental welfare?
You are absolutely right in your assessment of Glenn’s pathological hatred of Israel. It is not limited to the current war; it is longstanding seems like a mental illness.
The mental illness is believing Glenn has a "pathological hatred of Israel." Criticizing the zionist policies of Israel's government, as he does with ANY government, including the US, is absolutely justified.
Zionist policies of Israel.... Lol, well yes. Might be The dumbest thing you've splattered, and that's saying something.
Israel sure sucks at genocide
But it's excellent at ethnic cleansing.
Speaking of hygiene, what is your personal best for non-showering hamastan days at the encampment?
That’s incorrect
How so? Ethnic cleansing means displacement of an ethnic group.
Especially since a healthy percentage of its population is Arab..
Just a couple of notes - For non-citizens (even green card holders), constitutional protections are privileges (it's more about the obligations on the government than the benefit of the person). For citizens, they are rights. Deportation is *always* an option until citizenship is obtained (even for green card holders). It's a simple question of what was done in the first place to warrant action. Standing in place and protesting (regardless of the cause) is one thing, and even if I disagree, I don't object to people doing that. Not allowing people to enter or pass through because of a perceived bias is something entirely different. That's disruption, and should not be tolerated.
Hamas and pro-Hamas agitators are enemies. We don’t have to take enemies as citizens.
Bullshit. "Enemies" of whom? Declared to be terrorists by the same government that considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist. Israel has had several Prime Ministers who were first-class terrorists, for real. Israel has one right now.
Israel was founded, and has been led, by an unending string of terrorists. They are terrorists by any definition and were called that from the very beginning, by Einstein, Arendt, and everyone in my family and circle who were present at the founding of that (so called) country.
TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES:
“Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.” Signed by Einstein, Arendt and others, 1948.
Am Yisrael Chai.
I heard it's "Hammer Day" at the encampment. Bring a hammer from home and Soros will autograph it!
What's the encampment special at tomorrow's catered lunch?
@KAM why is Hamas an enemy of the US?
Didn't they attack the USS Liberty back in 1967 when the Israelis were butchering Egyptian POWs?
You're joking, right?
And pro Palestinian professors that randomly cancel all classes, just willy nilly giving every student an A on their mid term because classes are canceled. As a parent, not sure that would be supported for my generous $90,000 a year tuition. So theirs a bunch of shit to unpack at Columbia, I’m happy funding got pulled. With the private schools and their massive endowments, why the hell are they getting funding anyway ?
I've seen no evidence that he incited anyone to violence. Where did you get that idea?
Nothing says we have to add more bigots and anti-American agitators to our citizenry. He can leave now.