I hear ya Beyond Spin. my parents were both very active Texas Democrats in the 70тАЩs and 80тАЩs. I remember going to fundraisers and voting drives with them. I was taught that the Democrats were the working class party that stood up for the little guys and fought like Hell to protect free speech, free thinking and the First Amendment.
well, I donтАЩt have to explain what happened since then, but lets just say I will never vote blue no matter who for the long, foreseeable future.
I am disgusted that I spent decades voting for these people while passionately trying to persuade other to vote the same.
maybe it was always like this. maybe I am too naive.
at one point tho, I thought they were the good guys.
#metoo. I really donтАЩt know if they were ever the good guys, but I was raised to think they were and turned 18 the year Bush won, which reinforced that belief of mine we he said he opposed foreign intervention then blew up Iraq for no reason. I really didnтАЩt even start paying attention to any Republican candidate until 2016ish. IтАЩm grateful I ate some humble pie, but having young kids feel immense guilt I helped usher in some of the lunatics destroying their generation and robbing them of freedoms they have to be taught they should have been entitled to.
IтАЩve been registered all parties through the year s. Sadly they work for themselves now, not for us. None of them should be so rich as public servants!
No, you werenтАЩt naive. Me and most of my family and friends were in the same boat. The Democrats actually WERE the good guys back then, but now the script has been flipped and they are firmly in bad guy camp, along with most Republicans. It truly is the Uniparty. Sadly, most of my family and peers are still in the тАЬblue no matter whoтАЭ camp...
The lesson here is never be too sure you're the good guys, because that's how you become the bad guys. We've all passed this test this time around. It's just so distressing how many failed it.
тАШWe Had To Destroy The Republic In Order To Save It.тАЩ
I feel you pain, BP. World peace, civil liberties & the supporting the working class used to be Democrat core values. Now they are deemed the telltale signs of a right wing terrorist.
IтАЩm waiting for some swine at the podium to announce that they had to destroy the republic in order to save it, because that is what they are accomplishing. September 11th with its Patriot Act started the process, but the Trump chimera really got the ball rolling. Covid hysteria accelerated the process of stifling debate. January 6th was this regimeтАЩs Reichstag moment, petrifying the faithful into braying for establish concentration camps.
Back when the body politic had a functioning mind, most people saw blanket censorship, surveillance, propaganda & perpetual war as pillars of tyranny, not democracy. Today these are the core values of the Democrat faithful.
"IтАЩm waiting for some swine at the podium to announce that they had to destroy the republic in order to save it"
They did.
Build Back Better wtf To build back, you need to destroy.
Things were going very well, this lying old guy gets power, and announces the tag line Build Back Better. Combined with Obama's Third Term, we were warned.
So I take it you believe that our nation's infrastructure is just fine and needs little upkeep or rebuilding? If so you'll especially enjoy the collapse of the power grid when and if electric cars become affordable to more than Delorean collectors, bitcoin enthusiasts and monied liberals.
Until the majority of Americans come to understand that they are being tag-teamed, that power plays good cop, bad cop with us, then nothing will change, nothing can change.
"Both" sides agree on all the "important" stuff, like endless war, the wealth transfer, and condition free LOVE for Israel, just to name a few.
тАЬThere is only one party in the United States, the Property Party тАж and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt тАФ until recently тАж and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties.тАЭ
Vasily Grossman wrote the "War and Peace" for WWII in the two-volume "Stalingrad" and "Life and Fate".
I can't recommend them enough, and they provide a wonderful look at Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany. They are both hellish societies, but you realize that what we all hate about them is not the economic system. (one derives from capitalism and one from communism). What makes them awful is that they are authoritarian police states based on fear, where everyone is afraid to talk.
That's the danger we are facing now in the US, and what the people need to do is put aside theoretical differences and unite behind removing the bought politicians of both parties and scaling back the national security state spying and policing agencies.
Instead of nationalizing the private sector, the left has co-opted it to push its ideology.
The problem is that if you bring it up, the left says it is impossible because fascism is "right wing." Why? because Wikipedia says so. So it can't be true.
I'm a longtime voter for Democratic Party candidates, but at this point am feeling extremely alienated from the party. Called up my Congressional rep today and spoke with an actual live staffer.
My Congresscritter isn't on the Weaponized Gov't Subcommittee, but I let him know that I was completely disgusted by his fellow party members' anti-First Amendment conduct and if he and his party wanted my vote they'd better start standing up for my rights.
It seems likely that in 2024 there will be a rematch in the presidential election. It also appears that the Democratic Party is doing everything in its power to lose that election. I don't think that the Republican Party is any better in general, probably worse in fact, but if the Democratic Party thinks I'm going to keep on showing up and filling in bubbles for them, then they've got another thing coming.
You can only be a whistleblower if you are accusing Republicans. Ridiculous
As a former DNC member, I'm truly embarrassed to have ever been associated with what's now the Democratic Party.
https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2023/03/12/welcome-to-my-upside-down-world/
Welcome to my upside down world
I hear ya Beyond Spin. my parents were both very active Texas Democrats in the 70тАЩs and 80тАЩs. I remember going to fundraisers and voting drives with them. I was taught that the Democrats were the working class party that stood up for the little guys and fought like Hell to protect free speech, free thinking and the First Amendment.
well, I donтАЩt have to explain what happened since then, but lets just say I will never vote blue no matter who for the long, foreseeable future.
I am disgusted that I spent decades voting for these people while passionately trying to persuade other to vote the same.
maybe it was always like this. maybe I am too naive.
at one point tho, I thought they were the good guys.
this is too sad...
"...at one point tho, I thought they were the good guys."
A lot of us did. And maybe, once upon a time, they Dems were "the good guys."
But not now.
#metoo. I really donтАЩt know if they were ever the good guys, but I was raised to think they were and turned 18 the year Bush won, which reinforced that belief of mine we he said he opposed foreign intervention then blew up Iraq for no reason. I really didnтАЩt even start paying attention to any Republican candidate until 2016ish. IтАЩm grateful I ate some humble pie, but having young kids feel immense guilt I helped usher in some of the lunatics destroying their generation and robbing them of freedoms they have to be taught they should have been entitled to.
IтАЩve been registered all parties through the year s. Sadly they work for themselves now, not for us. None of them should be so rich as public servants!
No, you werenтАЩt naive. Me and most of my family and friends were in the same boat. The Democrats actually WERE the good guys back then, but now the script has been flipped and they are firmly in bad guy camp, along with most Republicans. It truly is the Uniparty. Sadly, most of my family and peers are still in the тАЬblue no matter whoтАЭ camp...
The lesson here is never be too sure you're the good guys, because that's how you become the bad guys. We've all passed this test this time around. It's just so distressing how many failed it.
Truth be told, the politic that has informed my adult life has been a choice between the Bad Guys and the Worse Guys...I think that still holds.
Flipped over!!! Keep sharing truth!
тАШWe Had To Destroy The Republic In Order To Save It.тАЩ
I feel you pain, BP. World peace, civil liberties & the supporting the working class used to be Democrat core values. Now they are deemed the telltale signs of a right wing terrorist.
IтАЩm waiting for some swine at the podium to announce that they had to destroy the republic in order to save it, because that is what they are accomplishing. September 11th with its Patriot Act started the process, but the Trump chimera really got the ball rolling. Covid hysteria accelerated the process of stifling debate. January 6th was this regimeтАЩs Reichstag moment, petrifying the faithful into braying for establish concentration camps.
Back when the body politic had a functioning mind, most people saw blanket censorship, surveillance, propaganda & perpetual war as pillars of tyranny, not democracy. Today these are the core values of the Democrat faithful.
"IтАЩm waiting for some swine at the podium to announce that they had to destroy the republic in order to save it"
They did.
Build Back Better wtf To build back, you need to destroy.
Things were going very well, this lying old guy gets power, and announces the tag line Build Back Better. Combined with Obama's Third Term, we were warned.
So I take it you believe that our nation's infrastructure is just fine and needs little upkeep or rebuilding? If so you'll especially enjoy the collapse of the power grid when and if electric cars become affordable to more than Delorean collectors, bitcoin enthusiasts and monied liberals.
Left/Right is a false construct introduced to confuse and control.
Until the majority of Americans come to understand that they are being tag-teamed, that power plays good cop, bad cop with us, then nothing will change, nothing can change.
"Both" sides agree on all the "important" stuff, like endless war, the wealth transfer, and condition free LOVE for Israel, just to name a few.
тАЬThere is only one party in the United States, the Property Party тАж and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt тАФ until recently тАж and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties.тАЭ
тАХ Gore Vidal
It's not upside down..
It's Communism. These people will lock you up if can get away with it.
They don't care and won't stop until a clear majority can see things clearly
No it's not "communism". It's fascism, the merger of state and corporate power
https://beyondspin.wordpress.com/2022/10/28/fascism-is-the-merger-of-state-and-corporate-power/
Vasily Grossman wrote the "War and Peace" for WWII in the two-volume "Stalingrad" and "Life and Fate".
I can't recommend them enough, and they provide a wonderful look at Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany. They are both hellish societies, but you realize that what we all hate about them is not the economic system. (one derives from capitalism and one from communism). What makes them awful is that they are authoritarian police states based on fear, where everyone is afraid to talk.
That's the danger we are facing now in the US, and what the people need to do is put aside theoretical differences and unite behind removing the bought politicians of both parties and scaling back the national security state spying and policing agencies.
Exactly. I am amazed that people don't see it.
Instead of nationalizing the private sector, the left has co-opted it to push its ideology.
The problem is that if you bring it up, the left says it is impossible because fascism is "right wing." Why? because Wikipedia says so. So it can't be true.
Communism?
Communism didn't put giant corporations in control of the Congress and the Senate.
Why don't you get the ball rolling by starting to see things more clearly.
I'm a longtime voter for Democratic Party candidates, but at this point am feeling extremely alienated from the party. Called up my Congressional rep today and spoke with an actual live staffer.
My Congresscritter isn't on the Weaponized Gov't Subcommittee, but I let him know that I was completely disgusted by his fellow party members' anti-First Amendment conduct and if he and his party wanted my vote they'd better start standing up for my rights.
It seems likely that in 2024 there will be a rematch in the presidential election. It also appears that the Democratic Party is doing everything in its power to lose that election. I don't think that the Republican Party is any better in general, probably worse in fact, but if the Democratic Party thinks I'm going to keep on showing up and filling in bubbles for them, then they've got another thing coming.
Thanks for the link