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BBB's avatar

The difference with Fox these days is they allow for opposing points of view. I’m sure it’s memory-holed now, but they played the same games back in the War on Terror days. They’ve realized that being a conservative mainstream foil to the remainder of all the rest of mainstream (liberal) media is driving impressive ratings. Agreed on the weirdness that you note. The world has been flipped on its head.

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Cowgirlcontrarian's avatar

Fox host, Brian Kilmeade, had Matt on last night on his show "One Nation". He gave quite a bit of time to Matt and did a pretty good job of asking questions. I realized watching it that this is still a somewhat complex issue to explain to readers and viewers because of convoluted explanations by Hamilton68 and other human bots. So the simpler the language the better aka "It's Bullshit" or as a former president said, "It's fake news." All these people are basically running money-making scams and getting away with it. That's what irks me. They will just move on to the next hustle.

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

Kilmeade is on the WGAU (10am-noon) in central Georgia and once played a clip of Matt on the Twitter Files.

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Timothy Wallace's avatar

It's a game of 'whack a mole', sure. But the stakes couldn't be more important, and destroying another's credibility in cases like this, and Jayson Blair's is something that can stick for quite awhile.

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devoalan's avatar

Careful with Brian neocon establishment republicant killmeade. Used to follow him, until the last three years. Now I listen even closer, and hear Billy Kristol.

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Gary Ogden's avatar

Cowgirlcontrarian: Yup, it's all just a hustle, and a truly clumsy one at that.

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CBL's avatar

However, they’re all getting rich with these hustles.

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Hollis Brown's avatar

basically, Fox News created the media business model that that is now dominant amongst all MSM.

eschew objective reporting, target a demographic and cater the news to them.

my MSNBC addicted friends Love to make fun of the Fox crowd without realizing they are the flip side of the same coin.

the projection is off the charts...

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Chip-N-NC's avatar

I don’t have time to watch either. I will say that I believe that Foxes “straight” news is less partisan than the others.

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Cowgirlcontrarian's avatar

Fox straight news is a bit more non-partisan in that they cover news stories that are not political. Like natural disasters and human interest stories. My take on Fox is that the daytime "news" crowd is definitely on the side of the war mongers in DC and so are in line with MSNBC and CNN. They have on their General Kean who is a rabid Russiaphobe. Later in the day such as "The Five" (on at 5PM ET) are more nuanced and have a more Libertarian leaning which is more anti-war or anti foreign involvement. Tucker has on Colonel MacGregor who has tried to objectively report on Ukraine and sees Russia winning. Note that he is a field officer; a colonel. Whereas the MSM including daytime Fox has on "Generals". "Gutfeld", the talk comedy show at 11PM has comedians and definitely a libertarian bent. They actually disagree with each other in a playful way. Big fan of Tyrus on that show. It is, by the way, the #1 show in it's time slot. It is not woke. And, of course, I love it because Walter Kirn is a semi-regular.

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Jambajuice's avatar

Really? They are all actors in a giant stage production. It's kabuki theatre. Don't believe the hype.

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Jambajuice's avatar

Less partisan? L0L It's all kabuki theatre.

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KHP's avatar

Sorry, no. What the MSM had in former days was not objective reporting, it was the *pretense* of objective reporting.

To which I say, good riddance!

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Jambajuice's avatar

Because left/right is an illusion. All serve the god of mammon. This generation gets "liberals" that favor the FBI and state power. A few generations back the FBI and state power were enemies of the "liberals". It's all kabuki theatre. Don't believe the hype.

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