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NickO.'s avatar

But No Kings, blah, blah, blah. Someone on X astutely explained they don’t care about kings, they just want one on their side. Everything they’re complaining about and protesting was already done by the Biden and Obama Admins to greater degrees. That’s why the only people that care are at the protests. The rest of us understand that No Kings is no different than Corey Booker filibustering himself for 25 hours.

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ktrip's avatar

You are right, it is so phony. They would (and did) impose the craziest stuff on us without a second thought. I am not a huge fan of the Speaker of the House, but he made a good point today. We would not have a government shut down if Trump was a King. Furthermore, these protests would be shut down. "Maryland Dad" aka Kilmer Abrego Garcia would be gone, not tying up the court system because he is such an awful person, no country wants to take him. I could go on. It is complete nonsense.

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Al Dune's avatar

The dems are just working their constituents into a frenzy so they will get out and vote. There’s no popular politicians in the bull pen, the BLM/racist narrative is used up and MSM continues to lose influence. Their only salvation is that Trump has pretty much punted on his campaign promises thereby disappointing many of the people who voted for him.

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Bonnie Beresford's avatar

"punted on his campaign promises"? Peace in the Middle East. doing his best with the mess in Ukraine, got the hostages home, rolling back taxes and regs to induce overseas US countries to come back, reducing personnel, waste and fraud in government, removing men in womens' sports, cracking down on criminals the Dems let go, opening up fossil fuel production so gas and electricity prices come down, removing illegals...making a mess of the tariffs yes, but they did achieve a few beneficial trade deals.

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Bill G's avatar

Dude Trump and his administration is rocking it. Is it perfect? No but all of it is in the right direction.

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GenericBot6886's avatar

If you honestly believe this....you are lost, dummy.

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Hele's avatar
Oct 21Edited

Calling people "dummy" isn't "Kind" or "inclusive" "Democrats word game"TM."

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Marie Silvani's avatar

Sorry my friend, but you are the lost one

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Bill G's avatar

ROTFLMAO!!!

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Lori E's avatar

Wow, really? Calling someone "dummy" is for kids. Make an argument for us to consider.

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Danno's avatar

The Dems are jealous that they couldn't get any of those things done, and they're freaking out that people like you might notice.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

And freaking out because they’re losing voters in the minority and youth communities

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Hele's avatar

Yep.Though if they get into power they will assume the policies-but cage them in Woke rhetoric.

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Al Dune's avatar

You’ve been watching too much Fox. Trump promised mass deportations of the 10 million Biden let in. That’s 2.5 million per year just to get us back to 2020 numbers. The most generous estimates have him at 400k and we are nearly a year in. Russian war was going to be resolved on day 1. Now he’s talking about sending tomahawk missiles to Ukraine and regime change in Venezuela. Elon and DOGE were fired with very little to show. What we got instead was another tax cut and unlimited weapons and money for Israel while running a $1.8 trillion deficit in 2025. Let me know when we’re winning.

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Torpedo 8's avatar

It's not a perfect world, is it, Al? But we're at least moving in the right direction. Maybe you'd be happier if Hunter was calling foreign policy? And if you don't want your tax cut, I'll take it.

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InChicago's avatar

We got an executive order on free speech, which isn't the same as a law, but I'm relieved. I think he is doing his best with Israel and Ukraine (on Ukraine, at least he doesn't want to keep throwing money into a meat grinder.) Isreal's ceasefire is fragile and a work in progress, but we've gotten further than under the Dems.

He's cracking down on DEI, and making it not cool anymore. He's fighting against boys in girls sports and spaces. Some states like mine are still pushing back, but the momentum has shifted.

He closed the border, which is more important to me than deportations.

However, on that count, there have been an estimated 1.6 million self deportations.

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Bull Hubbard's avatar

The pace of deportations might be more to your liking if Tom Homan wasn't receiving death threats and having to hide his family from murderers fired up by anti-Trump rhetoric and if ICE wasn't meeting with lunatic resistance. When that resistance is met with retaliatory or protective measures, like going undercover, masking, or using nonlethal weapons in riots, it is no surprise that the dreamers who want no borders get a bit salty and hit the streets with fireworks and lame "Hey HEY, Ho HO" chants.

If Trump were somehow to become King of America do you think any of these pathetic efforts to stop his agenda would prevent him from doing anything?

Most reasonably intelligent people understand that the bureaucracy is so huge and so resistant to change that his promise to significantly reduce it was more of his blustering rhetoric, but his efforts are clearly in the direction of fulfilling his agenda. For example, he took the opportunity of the shitbag Democratic faction's "shutdown" to sack a few thousand federal employees, which has the usual assholes upset and has forced pencil-pushers who thought their rice bowls were made of iron to update their resumes.

The only legitimate gripe is his bragging about the obviously temporary cease-fire in that nest of scorpions and pile of rubble that is Gaza. He's dealing with one of the most cynical and two-faced creeps ever to be hatched in Israel who is fighting one of the most fanatical and barbaric paramilitary groups ever seen. It's as foolish to have trusted Ham-Ass to honor a cease fire or peace plan as it was to trust Nutcaseyahoo.

Trump's bragging about what is proving to be a limited success in negotiating peace in Ukraine is also hard to swallow. The noise surrounding his diplomatic efforts in Russia are creating a great deal of confusion and stupid commentary while the corpses continue to pile up.

However, he is proving to be better than the alternative we were almost forced to live with. He wasn't the only one who dodged a bullet. Considering the state of the world and the domestic situation he survived to inherit, I'd give him a B.

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Harland's avatar

"sack"?

Humans only in this domestic US politics discussion.

Eat bolts, clanker!

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Mickel Knight's avatar

We also have 1.5-2.0 million self-deportations. Which in total is right at 2.5 million. It's not the way it was planned but does meet the goals. We also have active insurrectionists (#Resistance!), local and state governments defying Federal law, and activist judges thwarting deportation efforts.

For the moment we also have a peace plan in Palestine. Sure, Hamas is killing many of their fellow Palestinians in an effort to be the puppet master of the non-Hamas government, but Hamas is running out of countries that support them. Peace may indeed develop.

Admittedly, in Ukraine things are going great, and Doge was underwhelming. That said, the size of government is shrinking. That should help with budget concerns.

We also have an administration that isn't low key setting up China to be the dominant power on the globe. We're taking steps everywhere to try and erode our dangerous shortcomings in access rare earth metals, computer chip manufacturing, pharmaceutical manufacturing, and ship building. We have a closed border where untold unvetted potential terrorists were allowed into the country. Where untold violent crimes were perpetrated against women and children.

Trump is abrasive. He says unnecessarily provocative things. He's also done a very good job overall.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

Well, you should really be blaming the obstructionists. If that wasn’t happening, things would be different and more importantly, if he wasn’t cheated out of the previous election there would be no war going on fix. There were zero conflicts in his first term and so far zero conflicts started now. In fact several conflicts resolved . Do better in your research

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JuQu's avatar

Al, Did you know that Amish quiltmakers deliberately place an error in each quilt. Why? They are asserting their belief that only God is perfect. Perhaps a trip to Amish country would fix you up.

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Bonnie Beresford's avatar

AL ( or is it AI?): I do watch Fox. Also CNN and MSNBC. If you aren't watching Fox, you are not getting all the facts. But you re getting all the lies.

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Harland's avatar

Nobody watches Fox except you.

That's a weird, oddly specific list there.

Am I replying to a clanker?

Who talks like that?

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Joe Merritt's avatar

Not to mention the Treasury is on track to net $300B in tariff payments.

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Harland's avatar

No Epstein files because Epstein ran a child rape ring against Americans for Israel.

Bombed Iran, also for Israel.

Release the files and no more wars were core campaign platforms.

He can't, his hands are tied. He'd get assassinated like Charlie Kirk the moment he tried anything.

Be thankful Israel even allows him to be president.

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Noam Deplume, Jr. (look,at,me)'s avatar

"Peace in the Middle East." That's a good one! "Doing his best with the mess in Ukraine." As in rolling out the red carpet and sending a non-employee real estate tycoon to make deals with a murdering, child abducting barbarian making a "mess" with rape and torture. Ending aid to Ukraine but selling arms, tap dancing around sanctions that never come, and deceitfully teasing Tomahoax missiles as he tantrums for a surrender behind closed doors.

Pulling federal grants from universities until they pay big fines for being "antisemitic."

Ordering high-profile masked SWAT style raids to stir up an "insurrection" so he can declare special powers.

And it's only year one.

Trump revealed few of his most aggressive plans and hinted he would get tough with Putin. Voters surprised by these "promises," kept secret during the campaign, are telling polls they don't approve.

The good news? Only three more Liberation Days.

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ktrip's avatar

Sounds right to me. They need to gin up support to drag the horrible Abigail Spamberger and her little friend over the finish line. Ditto in New Jersey. Not sure how much Trump has punted on just yet but I do feel like we are getting a bit of show on illegal immigration and I really hate the idea that we have HUNDREDs of THOUSANDS of Chinese "students" here. Also, I have no idea what is going with the Epstein stuff, but I am not letting that ruin my day. But yes, I see your point but I am not there yet but I am close.

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michael888's avatar

The Chinese students and postdocs (and many other foreign students) have slowly filled up slots in grad school and in NIH labs since when I was in science since the late '80s. Although their English is often inferior, their backgrounds in STEM fields are generally better. There is a reason that science and innovation has increasingly moved to China; science jobs are jobs most Americans won't do.

When I started grad school, hard science PhD jobs paid the same as physician jobs. Now if they survive, the pay is about a third of average MDs pay. Also few medical students are even allowed to flunk out of med school (lot of debt to pay back), where grad students frequently left both in grad school or in their fields in postdoctoral jobs (I saw data for starting assistant professors having a lower chance of getting government grants-- for survival in academia-- than for college football players becoming professional athletes). Physicians dominate clinical research, and while some are excellent researchers, most are not (probably due to their didactic training); probably contributed to the horrid Covid response in the US.

The old expression "you get what you pay" for has come true for science in the US. While there is an entrepreneurial spirit in science today (also in China) much of it reflects snake oil selling and grantsmanship.

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ktrip's avatar

This is great information. I had to chuckle when you said "science jobs are jobs most Americans won't do." Made me think, what jobs will we do? Influencer? CEO? Hollywood Star? Rock Star? But seriously, I think you gave the answer, being a scientist (I have a cousin who is a chemist) used to be a very good paying job. Could it be this is a case where H1B visas is playing a role? Foreign tech or science workers taking less pay than native born (including Asian-Americans btw). I have friends who have lost tech jobs to cheaper foreign workers on H1B visas. I would bet there are Hispanic Americans who have lost construction jobs or had their wages reduced because of foreign born labor. It is an interesting topic that I have seen few deep dives on. So I appreciate you sharing as you have!

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Cheryl Knapp's avatar

Working in a basement with no windows and slow progress isn't a job many people keenly desire.

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rtj's avatar

"what jobs will we do"

Influencer. Content creator.

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Harland's avatar

Feel free to move to China and be a scholar there.

You are heavily censored by the government and you have to submit proposals to the government. There is no diversity there, only one race is 99% of the country. To say nothing of the unfamiliar foods (no General Tso's chicken,) difficult language and weird smells.

Get out! Go be with people like yourself! the canque of research censorship of everything but race and intelligence will fit comfortably around your neck.

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Taras's avatar

There’s an amusing statistic I’ve seen several times, to the effect that in poor countries girls who can do STEM go into STEM; while in rich countries girls who can do STEM go into — music or art history or something else they actually like.

As the Chinese get used to being rich, they will become frivolous like us.

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Al Dune's avatar

Chinese and Indians are not better at stem than Americans. Just read history. Virtually all of these foreigners graduate from our universities. They are given these slots to increase “diversity” and their families pay full tuition. H1B visas are simply cheap labor for corporations. These are the reasons why immigrants are replacing Americans in these high paying jobs and our elected leaders and universities are complicit. Trump said this in 2015 and now appears to have flipped after the tech companies became major funders of his campaign.

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JuQu's avatar

Oh Al, punting is done by all presidents,is it not? Trump is somewhat less of a punter than most. His behavior is hard for many especially older folks and some younger women. Overall, though, to those paying attention, he is above average.

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An independent observer's avatar

Interestingly, a tiny state, territory and population-wise, a dot on the map, struggling to defend itself and surrounded by enemies that outnumber it many times over, has a permanent and prominent space in your head and is an answer to all world and US problems and ills. I wonder why is that.

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Harland's avatar

Be lucky Israel is even allowing him to be president. He denied the Epstein files and bombed Iran like they ordered him.

AIPAC is still going strong and deciding our elections.

They will continue to do so until they are forced to register as a foreign agent, and if they represent a FOREIGN PRINCIPAL they must register under FARA no matter who funds them.

Let's concentrate on domestic policy. Israel has control of our foreign policy and requires this otherwise they could not continue to exist.

And Israel has a right to exist!

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Ken Baker's avatar

He hasn't punted on his campaign promises at all, the problem - to the extent that there is a problem - is that when you vote for Trump, you get...Trump, the good, the bad, and the sublimely ridiculous. He's like the little girl w/the curl - when he's good, he's very, very good, but when he's bad, he's horrid.

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Marilyn F's avatar

Trump has punted on his campaign promises? He’s only been president for 9 months?

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Al Dune's avatar

Well he didn’t end the wars on day 1. He bombed Iran and is about ready to start a regime change war in Venezuela. He promised to balance the budget but bailed on Elon and DOGE after a month and is running up a massive deficit. Epstein files remain under lock and key. Deportations are lagging Obama’s numbers by a lot. His cabinet is made up of deep state Zionists. Groceries are still uber expensive. Yet Israel has gotten everything they wanted. Still waiting for the golden age.

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Marilyn F's avatar

Guess you voted for Kamala 🤪

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Al Dune's avatar

I admit she would have been awful. This is more about being disappointed after 10 years of believing in Trump.

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rtj's avatar

I'm seeing no reason why the protests from Saturday should be shut down. You know, freedom of speech, assembly, those reasons. I'm not aware, at least in my state, of any becoming violent. As NickO said, they have as much impact as Booker's filibuster. But that's not a reason to shut them down.

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ktrip's avatar

That is my point- a king or dictator would/could shut them down or they would never happen in the first place. We do not have a king or dictator in Donald Trump. I think everyone needs to see this stuff, all of it. Frankly the media is covering for hateful and sick elements amongst these protesters. They are already censoring the message to make it appear more benign than it is. If anything, that is where the fascism exists, only showing/allowing one point of view that is approved by the Democratic Party/DC/NY/LA media/government establishment.

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rtj's avatar

Ok, my bad for misunderstanding.

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ktrip's avatar

BTW, I think you are right and I will go further, I think that these protests annoy more than convince as long as people see them in their full craziness. A bunch of angry old white boomers reliving the sixties with the young people they have made mentally ill with their brainwashing via various corrupt institutions.

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rtj's avatar

Well, i'm a pissed of female white (late) boomer and wish i was old enough at the time to participate in the 60's. Still a flaming old school lefty too. But as much as i can't stand Trump, i don't see the point of protesting. It's not like the Democrats are offering up anything to replace him with. Anything i'd vote for anyway.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

Dressed up in Halloween costumes, not to mention the washed up actors and actresses that showed up and I guarantee they got paid to do. Similar to Kamala’s showbiz people doing her rallies for big bucks.

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Torpedo 8's avatar

I'd like to send all the NO KINGS attendees to Caracas and see how they fare there. They don't know what a king is, what a tyrant is, what a woman is, what a Nazi is, what a fascist is, but hell, right, don't let that stop you.

Once you've been smacked around by, say, 30 rubber bullets, you might find some utility in staying in Trump's America. Stop complaining about the food with your mouth full.

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ktrip's avatar

Well that is it, isn't it? They say he is acting like a king for aggressively enforcing laws against ILLEGAL immigration. Citizens are not being targeted. Lawful residents (with the exception of a few student visa holders). It is a complete farcical exaggeration. It is almost like they are hallucinating. Maybe they are- after all, they think they are saving a "Maryland Dad" and not an illegal immigrant wife beating gang banging human trafficker. But even if he was just here illegally and nothing else, he should be deported. That is simply the rule of law. But you have people like Don Lemon claiming misdemeanors are not actual crimes and he is a "thought" leader for the no kings types...it is just crazy.

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Torpedo 8's avatar

I'm tired of terms like kidnapping (it's an arrest), or fears that no one ever identifies themselves, as if the Proud Boys would go to the trouble of duplicating ICE uniforms and then work autonomously alongside ICE and the cops with nary a peep.

Many years ago Hillary got waist deep into "the politics of meaning", probably some Noam Chomsky linguistic jujitsu, but I didn't understand it at the time. The Left intends to subvert the language so they can subvert society, but first they're going to have to brainwash all us into believing an illegal immigrant is simply undocumented and unhoused people are not bums.

Fucm.

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Noam Deplume, Jr. (look,at,me)'s avatar

Good point, a real king would have a minister of justice ending criticism of the king as "hate speech" and a real king would already have declared an insurrection. In gratitude we should buy $Trump coins and offer airplanes like foreigners do. He's not even close to being a king, even though he works his ass off to get more personal power to benefit us, the people who aren't bad.

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GenericBot6886's avatar

Calm down, buddy. It's a bunch of Karen's in cities that you despise holding signs you disagree with. It's not the march of the brownshirts.

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Anne McKinney's avatar

SURE, not yet -- Don Lemon just told Black & Brown people to get guns to start using against federal law enforcement officers!

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A.'s avatar

Meanwhile, British King Charles is one of the lead Globalists and supporter of WEF "cooperative ventures". Treasonous.

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Joe Merritt's avatar

Rep Claudie Tenney on X posted, "To everyone marching at the “No Kings” protest: You supported Biden’s rule-by-decree presidency. You defended censorship, mandates, and lawless power grabs. You’re not against kings, you’re mad yours lost his crown."

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BildvonGott's avatar

No Kings is entirely populated with TDS worshippers of BHO. I know several. They were perfectly content with King Biden (or his regents) decreeing student loans forgiven, etc…the “movement’s” hypocrisy and blindness is rich.

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David Burse's avatar

"Corey Booker filibustering himself for 25 hours"

Phrasing!

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A.'s avatar

I noticed that as soon as the Pro-Hamas street violence began to subside after the ceasefire (though not everywhere), the leftwing hurriedly pieced together the ridiculous "No Kings" baloney again. Just to be able to channel the minds and energy they had already captured.

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Patrick's avatar

One would think, but many don’t.

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Davey J's avatar

“No Kings” was a marketing term . It’s just the same crowd wanting to end society as we know it . Using the mice words to receuit gullible people who are mad their lives suck and won’t take personal responsibility to make them better .

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James Schwartz's avatar

Living in the state that has Booker as their senator many of us wish he used that time to do something for our state. He been a senator now for almost 2 decades and still hasn’t written one piece of legislation. He’s a joke and we get to thank Chris Christie for him. That RINO was the one who put him into the senate. Booker was nothing but the mayor of Newark. Zero federal experience but Christie felt he couldn’t get a republican through the state congress. He didn’t even try! We haven’t liked Christie since he was governor and how he even got into Trump’s circle for a minute is laughable. He’s a fat drunk who acts like a jester because he has zero skill or likability.

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NickO.'s avatar

Trump’s ability to break the media/DNC propaganda lockdown is the kind of thing that deserves a thank you from all Americans. Before Trump, Booker would have been given a medal for his heroic act of jack squat.

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Ken Baker's avatar

How DARE you make fun of "Spartacus"!

/s

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

Hurricanes come and go on the media landscape but the ones in Florida in 2024-- Helene on September 27 followed closely Milton on October 9--devastated Florida.

Both were during election season in 2024. Taking down political signs to ensure FEMA aid would not pass by was likely not on anyone's mind during such horrendous storms.

One person I work with lost her home, moved and a week later lost that residence.

Helene inundated Tampa Bay (where I teach) , breaking storm surge records throughout the area. The hurricane had a high death toll, causing 252 deaths and inflicting an estimated total of $78.7 billion in damage, making it the fifth-costliest Atlantic hurricane on record.

Milton also impacted west coast of Florida, less than two weeks after Hurricane Helene devastated the state's Big Bend region. Milton spawned a deadly tornado outbreak in one of the most intense tropical cyclone-produced outbreaks recorded. Total damages as a result of Milton were estimated to be $34.3 billion , making it the ninth-costliest Atlantic hurricane on record.

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Outis's avatar

Which adds valuable context to the subject: that after such devastation, people would still prioritize partisan loyalty over administering aid uniformly.

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

THANK YOU for recognizing this. The only continuing media coverage of the impact of these storms is that the roof was torn off Tropicana Field where the Tampa Bay Rays play baseball. But on the ground people are still building back and hoping they get a year off (it's still hurricane season, but so far in 2025 no major storm).

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Elizabeth Sexworth's avatar

And homeowners in some municipalities are being threatened with $500 per day fines if a house is not torn down by a certain date. How ridiculous is that? It looks like a regular house from the outside. It just isn’t habitable. The city asses actually used the magnitude of Helene as an excuse for why permits were taking so long, but my neighbor can’t use the same storm as an excuse for why her house hasn’t yet been torn down. Um, maybe it’s the backlog of work for local demolition companies??? Or her reluctance to tear down “the evidence” when she’s still wrestling with her flood insurance company?

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

I know how hard it has been and it's never covered in any news.

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Nobody's avatar

I can't say with certainty that FEMA's handling of Helene cost Kamala North Carolina, but i'm certain it pushed the state towards Trump. The flooding up in the mountains was a once in a 1000 year event, and the results were catastrophic. Up to 30 plus inches of rain was dumped over a short period of time in western NC and eastern TN, and some towns were entirely wiped out. There were still people living out of tents in the snow when Trump took office, and it was obviously political. Many millions of dollars flowed to Israel and Ukraine while our fellow Americans froze. There was outrage even in Asheville over how things were (not) handled.

What a dumb thing to do to a swing state in an election year.

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Kathleen McCook's avatar

Yes, media outside of the cone of these terrible storms hardly think of those suffering and Helene was worse for NC than FL.

These are the government services that make a difference if some small attention could be given to actual people rather than focus on the president.

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Robert Seip's avatar

Anyone surprised? Anyone? Bueller?

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Kurt's avatar

Shut FEMA down!

Let states handle their own disasters assisted with federal grants. They already know their own major risks and are prepared. FEMA has a track record of failure a mile long and reform won’t help.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

Exactly. The farther our taxes have to travel to fix a problem, the more the money changers benefit and the people lose out. Keep disaster relief administered locally, where people are trained to handle the problem and the leaders are accountable.

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Richard Fahrner's avatar

Do recall the now 10 month old Palisade and Altadena fires, and the susequent Fire Aid Concert/relief project. I recall at least

$100mil raised and 75% went to "agencies to assist those in need", ending with no assistance to actual victims.

I see "administration", whether schools, medical industry, governmental departments, as the biggest drains on money and effectiveness of getting the actual job done. Too many chiefs and no one doing the actual work or assisting those in real need, Trump fans or not.

I would be pissed if I was passed over/delayed legitimate help due to a yard sign. My home is not political.

sorry I digressed..

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

Bureaucratic institutions exist to serve themselves and with beyond few their original stated objective. As per Pournell's Law...

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badnabor's avatar

Amen

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

Exhibit A as to why no CA governor should be President. But the CA citizens keep re-electing the same no-accounts. As here in Illinois, blue super majorities are not made to fix problems, just elections.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

Honestly, that’s why I don’t care if Mondami wins in NYC. You get what you give . Let’s see the big Wall Street folks and media folks live with him for a bit

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Tricia's avatar

I DO care because, if Mamdani wins, more of those locusts will move south. We have enough of them.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

Absolutely wrong! NYC will be the canary in the coal mine. A formerly great city the latest and most important victory in the Islamist takeover of America. Not just our garden variety corruption. Maybe Mamdani will take his BFF Wahhaj to Ground Zero on 9/11/26. Unbelievable.

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Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Exactly. Great example of a large amount of money donated and victims never saw a dime. Prime example of the deep rot in CA politics and administration.

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Anne McKinney's avatar

Oh contraire -- you were on point!

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badnabor's avatar

I totally agree That the states should be responsible for the administration of disaster relief. FEMA, if left intact in any form, should be relegated to provision of funds and equipment as called for and under the direct supervision of congress. FEMA, as of now, is just another glaring example of a Federal agency's bureaucratic nonsense running amok due to congress' abdication of responsibility. Congress loves to create "do good" agencies to garner votes, but immediately wash their hands of the ensuing blunders.

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Outis's avatar

Yep, at the risk of digressing a big...viz. the creation of the Department of Education by Jimmy Carter in 1979.

The Wikipedia opening paragraph is inadvertently kinda funny:

"The United States Department of Education is a cabinet-level department of the United States government, originating in 1980. The department began operating on May 4, 1980, having been created after the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was split into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services by the Department of Education Organization Act, which President Jimmy Carter signed into law on October 17, 1979. An earlier iteration was formed in 1867 but was quickly demoted to the Office of Education a year later."

So the ancients back in 1867 immediately recognized their folly but we're stuck living with folly from the 1980's some 45 years later.

DoEd is perfect for all the heart-string-tugging cutesie photos of teachers caring for kids. Total goody-two-shoes imagery for the DoEd. Who could argue?

And it's all bs. Just a cash-sucking sinkhole of a racket.

I'd be all for zonking the Department of Education if it might help de-fang the teachers unions. Nothing against teachers -- I taught adult continuing education for a while. I really enjoyed the work and felt like I was helping people connect with the subject and help some get over "math anxiety".

I would actually like to still do do but I've given up after toooooo many run-ins and rejections by (putatively union) "academics" in the Chicago City College system. I just never seemed to be a "fit" back in Chicago, where I'm from, but yet I seemed to do very well when I was teaching in Minnesota while in grad school.

The rise of the education machine inversely parallels the deterioration of American education.

To bring it back to your comment; the DoEd personifies the feel-good sloganeering useful for garnering votes while simultaneously doing favors for entrenched interests (cf. "teachers unions").

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badnabor's avatar

Totally agree. The proliferation of government departments and agencies seemed to really get a foothold during FDR's time. It was a Democrat wet dream. The Federal government, using tax theft, would just employee it's way out of a depression. The sad fact is that this ploy is, even today, credited with ending the Great Depression, when in fact it was the military arms build up and entry into WWll that accomplished that. I worked so well and made corporations so much money that it spawned what we now know as the military/industrial complex. Both parties are guilty of throwing our tax dollars at exaggerated problems, through Federal Departments and agencies just to appear as though they "care". The DoEd is certainly one of the big offenders, but regrettably, they are far from alone.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

I saw a ton of post-Hurricane Katerina T-shirts in New Orleans bearing the message that for them, FEMA stood for "find every Mexican available," as federal policy was first, waive safety regulations, second, keep New Orleanians out of the city, third, put Mexican workers in French Quarter luxury hotels.

Wasn't ol' Dubya a caution?

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Obviously I do not take counsel even of highly particularized bots, and certainly not generic ones, though I have in fact taken my high blood pressure meds for the day.

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GenericBot6886's avatar

Take your meds, fella.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

It's amazing we haven't seen your idea expressed more widely. FEMA sucking didn't start or stop with Heckuva Job Brownie.

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Danno's avatar

Or let volunteers, friends, and neighbors help one another, rather than waiting for the government to intervene. What I noticed was FEMA actually PREVENTING volunteer organizations from reaching the scene, and getting into tussles with local law enforcement over who had control. Absolutely unacceptable.

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baker charlie's avatar

I seem to recall in NC, they actually confiscated supplies that the communities and private individuals had brought to be distributed.

Wonder what happened to all of that stuff...

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Rick Barnes's avatar

That is just one of many questions that should be answered.

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Skeptical Faith's avatar

That is exactly what we’re supposed to have! We are sovereign(?) states united in a federation. FEMA is meant to HELP the states solve their own catastrophes with neighboring states pitching in as they can.

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Rock_M's avatar

FEMA exists because state-by-state efforts proved inadequate. This was apparent in the 1927 Mississippi River floods. Also, the political bias would be much, much worse.

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Danno's avatar

Inadequate I can deal with. FEMA has been both inadequate and downright hostile.

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flyoverdriver's avatar

Read “The Great Feminization” by Helen Andrews at Compact. What’s surprising is not that this happened, but my (and many others’) understanding of why these episodes happen. After reading Andrews, quotes like the below from the 1A lawyer in Matt’s piece take on a whole new meaning:

“So it’s basically the same concept of a harm or distress standard we’re seeing in Europe with speech issues, where the emotional response of the observer is what matters legally, as opposed to a concrete rule.”

Andrews argues that the rule of law cannot survive the Great Feminization, for precisely the reason encapsulated in this quote.

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Shelley's avatar

I well remember it was the early '80s when 'feelings' first became a weapon.

Disrespect my feelings once, it's on you. Disrespect my feelings twice it's on me for not telling you the first time.

It took off and spread and one of the first tabu things to go were off-colored jokes and then any jokes at all.

It morphed into suppression of male voices and the expansion of female dominance because “feelings”. As a female I was left with telling jokes to guys and now I rarely do that because the reactions vary widely depending on the guy’s age.

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Jonathan's avatar

Another quote from Ms. Andrews' brilliant article illustrates why feminization is a one-way street: "Women can sue their bosses for running a workplace that feels like a fraternity house, but men can’t sue when their workplace feels like a Montessori kindergarten."

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Skeptical Faith's avatar

I’ve never heard anything about this! Where did this come from?

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Shelley's avatar

Probably in higher ed where all the loony stuff comes from just like safe spaces is another step to silence others.

It was just call 'dis me' as in dis me once you bad, dis me twice me bad for not scolding you the first time you hurt my feelings.

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Skeptical Faith's avatar

SMH No Safe Spaces!

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Anne McKinney's avatar

https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-great-feminization/

The Great Feminization

Helen Andrews

Helen AndrewsOctober 16, 2025

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Robert Seip's avatar

Just read it half an hour ago. Spot on.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

And no Illinois governor should be President for the same reason. Pritzker is a joke. $1.4 million playing cards in Vegas? Stay tuned.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

How many Illinois/Chicago schools aren’t teaching their students to read? THAT is racist. All the union all the time. Maybe the teacher can’t read, either.

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Rob F's avatar

It’s not just FEMA — it’s everywhere. Teachers’ unions running schools like campaign offices, speech “monitors” buried in the deep state, judges and DAs turning law into activism, and health administrators pushing trans ideology instead of science. Government work used to mean serving the public; now it looks more like a loyalty program for Democrats and their pet causes. The whole system’s become a jobs-for-friends racket dressed up as good government.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

Allegiance to the Party. Sounds awfully communist, doesn't it?

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Zoki Tasic's avatar

Ummmm… it’s weird that people on this thread think that this is a Democrat-only problem. I’ve been a close follower of American politics for 25 years. Listened to a lot of right-wing talk radio. Read news from the left, right, and middle.

All of the problems with the Democratic Party identified here are real problems, but all of them are also problems of the Republican Party—some more so, some less so.

Both parties are owned by oligarchs, and I genuinely feel bad for anyone who thinks that Trump or any other US president is actually fighting for them.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

I think you misread my comment. “The Party” would be a reference to the Soviet Union. Those of any political persuasion who put party over principles are suspect. That said, the rot does appear to currently be deepest on the left. 40 years ago it was the on the right. The tribal allegiance over what is true and just, however inconvenient, is the disease.

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Zoki Tasic's avatar

I understood your reference and was commenting on this thread as a whole. I disagree with the rot being on “the left.” In terms of actual policy, the current Democratic Party is to the right of Richard Nixon.

As for comparing the Democratic and Republican Parties, I don’t see any light between them in terms of how corrupt and beholden to oligarchs they are. I also don’t see a meaningful difference between worship of the Democratic Party by many liberals and worship of Trump by MAGA folks.

Regarding Trump, every Republican official who was calling him a criminal, a fraud, a liar, and Hitler before and during his first term is now so far up his ass that they can see his tonsils (which is maybe the funniest part of all of this to watch).

But that has little to do with them changing their minds about Trump; it has to do with the fact they once he got elected the first time, the billionaire class saw that he was a viable candidate who was good for their bottom line and started showering him with money. And politicians follow the money.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

TBF IMHO the terms “right” and “left” have lost their meaning. I see it more as Authoritarian vs. Anti-Authoritarian. Unfortunately I suspect a technocratic total surveillance-police state is almost certainly inevitable, or a theocratic caliphate for much of the non Western ( and perhaps a large chunk of Europe ) world… Unless one chooses to completely opt out and live off grid which is likely impossible to truly accomplish in this age. Human nature being what it has always been, what would be the best tradeoff? There are no solutions after all… sigh.

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Zoki Tasic's avatar

I’m not sure that’s right. There are leftist anti-authoritarians and anti-authoritarians on the right. The problem is that many people are anti-authoritarian when the “other side” is in power but don’t mind authoritarianism if “their side” is in power. (At least those they think are on their side.)

In other words, there’s a lot of hypocrisy out there, but are also a lot of people who are just so disempowered and frustrated in real life that they live vicariously through Trump “owning the libs” or Gavin Newsom “owning Trump” by tweeting like him (someone still needs to explain that idiocy to me).

As various people have put it, it’s not about left vs. right, it’s about up vs. down—namely, the oligarchs and the handmaidens versus everyone else.

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Outis's avatar

I largely agree with your observations -- politics and money are intertwined in both parties.

However, I would counter that the lawfare abuses over the last 25 years seem to have had more Democrat authors. The treatment Trump received over the last few years was amazing...amazingly brazen and corrupt. Many of Trump's associates from his first term were also attacked.

In trade, both parties -- with the possible exception of Trump -- have been guilty.

Clinton signed NAFTA into law and promoted China's (i.e., the PRC) entrance into the WTO. That was signed by Bush II.

Finally, I would argue that the Democrats have shown tremendous zeal as regards all the social-engineering of the last two decades.

From what I can tell, the "trans" movement putatively began with Obamacare (rolled out in two phases) that mandated that insurance companies had to cover "gender affirming care". Whatever the heck that is.

And every major city in this country is run by Democrats. Run into the ground. I'm not aware of a single major city run by Republicans. Not that I think Republicans are great (cf., the note on Bush II who also got us into potentially unnecessary conflicts in the Middle East).

But, again to your point, both love war. The disaster in Ukraine is arguably due to the Biden administration's insistence on bringing Ukraine into NATO (and this despite William Burns being head of the CIA...author of the famous "Nyet means Nyet" memo).

One last quibble. If you had told me back in the 1980s and 1990s that I would wind up voting three times for Donald Trump for president, I would have thought you crazy.

I don't think many supporters of Trump necessarily "adore" him; speaking for myself, I'm simply enthusiastic and appreciative we have a president who is not from the same mold as his immediate predecessors...of both parties.

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Zoki Tasic's avatar

I really appreciate your comments. We don’t agree on everything, but we agree on a lot—despite the fact that I am in many ways on the “far left” of the political spectrum and I gather (from your having voted for Trump) that you’re on the right.

I think that as a country, we would be well-served to put aside our differences for a few years and focus on things that large majorities on the right and left can agree on: (1) ending wars and investing that money at home; (2) cracking down on corruption in our politics (e.g., no trading of stocks by members of the federal or executive); (3) reining in Big Tech, which I think most people agree is pushing products like AI that most people don’t want; (4) eliminating mass surveillance; (5) stopping both parties from using the powers of the government to suppress and punish speech they don’t like, etc.

Our lists may not be identical (and it would take me a week to put together a comprehensive list), but

I think that this approach is the only way forward.

Right now, politicians and oligarchs are pitting us against each other while picking our pockets and pursuing policies that are great for the wealthy but not so great for the vast majority of us.

Peace be with you.

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Skeptical Faith's avatar

I wouldn’t disagree. But the Obama and Biden administration weaponized it to an extreme degree.

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Rob F's avatar

It’s not bias to say most government workers lean Democrat — it’s just a fact. Studies of the federal civil service from 1997 to 2019 show just over half identify as Democrats, while the share of Republicans dropped from about 32% to 26%. Unionized state workers skew even harder left, with roughly twice as many Democrats as Republicans. Nearly all federal employees are registered to vote, so this isn’t about apathy — it’s about where their politics generally sit. It doesn’t mean every government worker is a Democrat, but pretending the tilt doesn’t exist is ignoring reality.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

The Long March Through the Institutions…

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Rick Olivier's avatar

Thank you!!

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Brian Sack's avatar

When I was working in Türkiye following the devastating 2023 earthquake, I spoke to people who told me that the Turkish equivalent of FEMA had denied tents to people who lost their homes because they were known to the locals as being anti-Erdoğan. Isn't it a joy that we're on the same path?

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HeathN's avatar

Late stage human civilization. Tribalism on a grand 8.2B person scale. Yeah, it was inevitable.

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A.'s avatar

I hadn't heard others mention tribalism to any degree, so glad you did.

Tribalism is a primitive way of thinking that many citizens of the West moved beyond over the past several thousand years. Not that we are perfect because of this, but it certainly helped move humanity along.

The tribalist will actually think and see differently than the non-tribalist. We are talking a hive-mind versus individuals.

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DaveL's avatar

Unfortunately evolution may be the reason we’re tribal. The vast majority of human existence is before civilization.

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A.'s avatar
Oct 20Edited

Yes, most human existence was pre-civilization.

However, Judeo-Christianity and the development of individualism has been such a leap forward. That was recent evolution. It is fairly new in the grand scheme of things.

As Anthropologist Levy-Bruhl noted, primitive mankind and human infants think and interpret the world and others differently than we do, because of being in a Participation Mystique. A collective consciousness. A hive-mind. Individuality is a foreign concept in their lives. Until the infant in a developed society matures, at least.

And as we have seen, we can still lose individuality. In fact, this evolutionary regression is what we see in the WOKE across the West. As more collective groups such as Islam push their way to the forefront. Which is bad news for individualism. We go backwards if this takes hold -- back into a primordial soup of the undeveloped hive-mind.

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michael888's avatar

There were hive minds during the Reign of Catholicism in the Middle Ages/ Crusades/ Inquisition much as with ISIS, which the US set up as al Qaeda in Afghanistan and in Israel as is playing out under Netanyahu.

Theocracies are by definition tribal and produce unified efficient governments by killing off dissenters.

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A.'s avatar

Michael, I think you are trying to get me to diss Israel. Which I am not going to do.

The medieval Catholic Spanish Inquisition was rightwing totalitarianism -- which I have explained in several dozen posts now (I cannot repeat all of this information every time I comment on a forum).

Totalitarianism is a collective hive-mind seeking overall authority, and is run by Cluster-B personalities.

It goes like this. There is a psychological spectrum in mankind, Conservatism to the right, Progressiveness to the left, balance point (homeostasis) in the centre. Too far to the right is destructive, as is too far to the left. You see this in leftwing WOKE being political bedfellows with rightwing Islam. Groups equi-distant from the centre on either side are very similar in their degree of destruction.

The Spanish Inquisitors were destructive rightwing religious fundamentalists. As were the 17th-century Puritans.

Moderate Judaism and Christianity are forces for good. If they become very extremist, the extremism itself is what prompts destruction of others. I am a moderate Christian.

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Danno's avatar

Tribalism helped us survive for eons, but it has its dark side.

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A.'s avatar
Oct 20Edited

It did help us survive, when we needed brute strength and numbers. Which is why many people even today revert to being sheep seeking a herd when they think they are facing a threat. We saw this during COVID-mania.

But there was a cost, and a huge dark side. As you say. They lose their individuality, including individual critical thinking and individual morality.

Hamas is still tribal. Israel is not. Tribalism also fueled Northern Ireland and its religious violence....which was never really about religions.

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Optimist's avatar

There may have been tribalism in Northern Ireland, i.e., Catholics vs Protestants; however, the Troubles and the violence were not caused by tribalism, per se, but by the oppression of one tribe, the Protestant Loyalists, over the other, the Catholic Nationalists. It's well documented that Catholics had been discriminated in employment, housing and politics from the very beginning of English rule. The English government and monarchy have blood on their hands for supporting this oppression.

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HeathN's avatar

Political persecutions and this story (and being anti-Erdoğan in Türkiye ) is the worst aspect of "team sports". The primitive aspects of our species are still present.

You stated "Tribalism is a primitive way of thinking that many citizens of the West moved beyond over the past several thousand years." - but political parties are just the next iteration of the 'tribe'. Nothing has really changed. Due to population size and nearly every square inch of the planet being owned by someone or some entity, humans that have no desire to involve themselves in tribal politics are essentially forced to. Empires guarantee that.

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A.'s avatar

Judeo-Christianity evolved the West out of general tribalism. I could write a book about that..... These ideas and values developed the individual out of what was once overall tribalism. Or as Jung said, the unconscious began to be made conscious.

We became individuals with our own morality and critical thinking...rather than a hive-mind. Which brought about some massive improvements for Western humanity.

Primitive peoples and human infants think differently than Western mature individuals. There are good points to each perspective, but generally the more mature individual viewpoint is more evolved.

However, once-individuated persons can regress. You see this happening across the West in the leftwing WOKE and the American Democrats. The regression may eventually become severe enough to be considered malignant, as in the crowd who are into assassinations and mass destruction. Authoritarian empires grow from hive-minds, which was why the idea of the individual was so important in both Judeo-Christianity and in the American Experiment.

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EndOfTheRoad's avatar

There is no such thing as Judeo-Christian, those are two distinct worldviews. The Judeo part is entirely tribal and always has been. You can have the opinion that they have good reason to be, but there's no way you can claim Judaism isnt tribal.

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A.'s avatar
Oct 20Edited

I am aware of the development of both Judaism and of Christianity. The former brought about the latter. This is basic history and theology. The Old Testament might be said to be the overlap, and then they parted company with the concept of the Messiah. Though the values of individualism are common to both.

The Jews would not be so advanced as a people in the Middle East amongst other Middle Eastern people if they had not outgrown tribalism long ago. That was their magical power.

I recommend to you the writings of Anthropologist Francisco Gil-White, especially his Substack articles on Sargon of Akkad, the ancient Mesopotamian ruler who seems to have started the whole ball rolling.

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A.'s avatar

Tribalism, or collective consciousness, can (and eventually will) take down your individual morality as well as your individual critical thinking. Poof! All gone.

Especially if the author of your group narrative is a Cluster-B personality....which happens fairly often (they like authority).

Remember seeing once-normal folk turn into zombies during COVID-mania? You were witnessing mind-capture of the individual. They traded their own selves for the herd.....because they believed all of those "here be safety" lies.

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HeathN's avatar

I think we are in agreement, but in slightly different perspectives. I think the filmmakers of the movie "The Matrix", certainly in the sequels, tried to grapple with this in a film narrative fashion. I felt it made some sense to relate this topic to the movie "The Matrix" because of the clear parallels in conflict between the one and the many. It's a deep topic that deserves far more time and exploration than can be shared here, but fun food for thought nonetheless.

I just think population size IS a factor with what we are seeing in recent times. Hive mind/ Mass formation is a danger to free-thinking people everywhere. It's the dystopia we were always warned about coming true.

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A.'s avatar
Oct 21Edited

Thanks. I have heard of "The Matrix" but I have not seen this movie. I agree too that using social media forums to explain and discuss such deep concepts does not do them justice. Nor do many readers have the background in which they are familiar with these ideas. Although every time I see them asking "Why.....why is this happening? How can people in a once-civilized society be like that?".....I add my two-cents' worth. But it usually bounces off.

I agree that it is a deep topic -- I have been learning about it/investigating this and related topics all of my adult life. Through the cross-disciplinary fields of Depth Psychology, Evolutionary Science, Anthropology. More than food for thought from my end.

Hive-mind can occur in a one-to-one relationship (Coercive Control), or in an entire population. Germany of 1930s/40s was in this situation. It is the phenomenon that caused collective madness and immorality under Nazism. With Hitler as the medium to the dark side of the collective unconscious.

We also see this in the various totalitarian groups -- cults, gangs, terrorist and criminal organizations. Extremist fundamentalist religious groups too. And we saw this phenomenon in social contagions such as the Satanic Panic of the 90s. As well as people flipping into the hive-mind of COVID-mania.

It's a difficult concept to grasp. Most people think of it as just Sci-Fi, but it has been with us on earth since the beginning; simply not the majority all at once.

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Tricia's avatar

This explains why so many people think boys really can become girls even though that is scientifically impossible,

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Leslie Sacha's avatar

It’s ironic how the woke “globalists” have turned out to be the world’s biggest control freak tribalists as they seek to restrict or override all other tribes (aside from their Covid capers there is a huge emphasis on breaking down the basic “family unit” tribe and replacing it with their “benevolent, all-knowing” state ). Their brand of elitism and intolerance is/will be most oppressive if they become successful in their push to secure “global” reach & control (aka world domination?). The scope of WHO and UN pronouncements are right up there in arrogance with that centuries old papal degree that split ownership of the Americas between Spain & Portugal. (A side note: the UN also has a committee for “Peaceful Uses of Outer space”. Sigh. Just a bit beyond the usual regional planning scope, hey?) it’s become the battle of the billionaires.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

"Late stage" or return to the norm? Same as it ever was....

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Shelley's avatar

The US is like Venezuela for voting, Brazil for Dem candidate selection, Russia for Dem spying on Republicans, and the EU/UK for silencing wrong think. It is first in the head of state telling citizens they were murdering people for not getting the jab.

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War for the West's avatar

But it's 'both sides', Matt, don't you get it? There isn't one side censoring and abusing every lever of govt to suppress and punish their political enemies - don't you know that!!!!

Be clear, most Dem/Leftists would have no problem with FEMA doing this if asked their opinion in private.

And they wonder why the Right is so pugilistic now that it's in power? So many incidents of this sort across govt that were utterly unfair and un-American. It strikes at our very core. I'm sick of treating the Dem/Left like they just disagree with us politically - nope, they hate us want to see us dead.

Act accordingly, folks...

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Shelley's avatar

They have no problem replying yes to the question did Charlie deserve to die?

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War for the West's avatar

This is merely revealing where we are at, which more Americans need to know. I've known it for some time, not happily, cuz I did my reading on the Left long ago. In fact, it was Bloom's The closing of the American Mind that woke me up 30 years ago to how the rot was advancing in the academy, quite intentionally.

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Skeptical Faith's avatar

After Jay Jones texts wishing death on his political opponent AND HIS KIDS surfaced, Democrat approval of him INCREASED ONLY 12%!!!

And the Dems didn’t force him to resign!

Sad to say, but we are declining into barbarity. Again

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pundette's avatar

This is right up there with Jimmy Kimmel and others recommending that unvaccinated patients presenting at emergency rooms should be allowed to die. "Agree with us or we'll skip your house, deny you aid relief, leave you to die in the waiting room, shoot you in the head, shoot you in the throat." And Republicans are the ones described as cold, uncaring, hateful, and inhumane. Sounds like projection to me.

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BD's avatar

It's much worse than projection. It's hate and disgusting democrats behaving like rabid animals. The democrats are going to regret this behavior.

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DaveL's avatar

Committee of Public Safety…

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HeathN's avatar

Just a quick comment (I haven't read through all of this yet): the hand on Biden's arm in the first image of this article is a perfect example of a picture being worth more than a thousand words.

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Outis's avatar

Well-spotted!

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HeathN's avatar

There are so many ways to interpret it too. Could be Biden being held up, held back, or directed. I can't tell if that is Jill, but I suspect that is a staffer tasked with ensuring Joe doesn't embarrass himself. Years (decades even), too late of course.

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Refenestrated's avatar

"If it’s known that disaster relief can be politicized and nobody fixes the problem, imagine how mad people will be one or two cycles from now.”

No need to worry. The fact that it was a Democrat administration doing this means that no one besides Racket News subscribers will ever hear about it.

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rtj's avatar

Let alone care that it was.

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DaveL's avatar

Actually, probably in favor of it. You know, the Deplorables Reduction Act.

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Aggie's avatar

It's one thing to become aware of this kind of perfidy. It's quite another to move from seeing it in the rear-view mirror, to pre-empting it in the future.

Where is the punishment?

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Lance Haseltine's avatar

Hope you’re feeling better, Matt 🤕

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David's avatar

Leftists have always personified the hate that they claim to so bravely stand against.

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JD Free's avatar

Leftists project. They always, only, ever project.

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Josh Wilson's avatar

It would nice if we leftists, most of us 3rd party voters, didn't always get roped in with the liberal sheep.

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EndOfTheRoad's avatar

While I don't know you or beliefs personally, those "real leftists" would include the hammer and sickle waving antifa crew who do things like beat up Andy Ngo, would it not?

Jill Stein calls Trump a fascist, presumably Greens are the third party you're referring to?

Sorry, but I've seen no more desire to reach across the aisle coming from "real leftists" than I have from Democrats, GOP Republicans, MAGA Republicans, neo-Nazis, or anyone else.

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Rich Helppie The Common Bridge's avatar

I am in a SM exchange with a US expat in Australia who is using the phrase “Trump attacks his own citizens”

The guy I know personally was on my show where he talked about the army locking him in a hotel when he flew home. COVID era.

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NickO.'s avatar

He’s like the reporters claiming to only be a crime victim in DC once or twice complaining about a ramp up in enforcement.

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PaxAlto's avatar

I'd like to share this interesting article I recently read exploring the origins of these bizarre and confounding "wokeness" policies infesting our public and private institutions. You don't have to agree with it, but I believe at the very least it's thought provoking.

"Everything you think of as “wokeness” is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization...

"...Female group dynamics favor consensus and cooperation. Men order each other around, but women can only suggest and persuade. Any criticism or negative sentiment, if it absolutely must be expressed, needs to be buried in layers of compliments. The outcome of a discussion is less important than the fact that a discussion was held and everyone participated in it. The most important sex difference in group dynamics is attitude to conflict. In short, men wage conflict openly while women covertly undermine or ostracize their enemies."

The Great Feminization | Compact

https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-great-feminization/

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Mtu_wa_kweli's avatar

most males deal with reality (making things work)

most females deal with fantasy (saying things work)

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.

Orwell

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Bonnie Beresford's avatar

It's the women (esp white) who refused to come across to the Trump side in 2024.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

As a woman who does not fit the above feminization description, I can say I've been bashed much of my life for my directness. There's much pressure on females to use consensus and cooperation, and to also undermine and ostracize rather than deal with problems directly. This is not to say women have leanings in that direction, but social pressure makes it much worse than it needs to be.

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Mary L Silverberg's avatar

After hosting family movie night a couple of years ago—the movie was King Richard based on Richard Williams’ coaching of his daughters Serena and Venus—I asked my granddaughter and daughter in law whether they thought Richard Williams was right in pushing his daughters as he did in the movie. To my amazement neither one of them could answer the question. I subsequently decided they didn’t have the time to decide what other people thought, before answering the question. When my son returned to the room, I asked him the same question. He said “absolutely, he did what was right” and wondered out loud why I would ask such a silly question.

Social conditioning has paralyzed some women’s ability to think.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Yes, and I think too much!

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A.'s avatar
Oct 21Edited

From my experience with you, I would say that you are weak on authentic thinking on this topic. That what you mistake for thought is just regurgitation of the feminist ideology, which no one in the West could escape having shoved down their throat these past 60 years.

You say in your bio that you are "fiercely independent". Though I find you holding on with all your might to one of the biggest acts of conformity of the post-war generations -- spouting predictable feminism, with contempt for anyone who does not accept this worn and wearisome ideology.

Feminists in my experience are worse than proselytizing religious fundamentalists. Given the choice between having a Saturday morning Jehovah's Witness show up at my door, or an arrogant and programmed feminist....guess which one I would choose? At least the JWs are usually polite and do not have big mouths.

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The Central Scrutinizer's avatar

I married a French girl and she definitely doesn’t fit that bill. I was shocked at how casually she’d call out my hypocrisy or simply outright disagree with me when we were getting to know each other. That was something I wasn’t used to. I do see some truth to it here… probably something more to do with our social history and/or religious origins?

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Thank you for that comment. I do see in our history, specifically our antebellum history in the south, an elevation of female physical helplessness. The Europeans had plantations and slaves far away in foreign lands, but the upper-class south made white, female delicateness a sign of wealth among the labor of slaves. Perhaps female cooperation was elevated as part of this helplessness.

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JD Free's avatar

I find that a decent number of women can be found who will not be ringleaders in acts of emotional manipulation and will speak against such behavior abstractly, but when such women are in the midst of a rage mob of other women, they are still much less likely to resist the flow than I am.

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A.'s avatar
Oct 20Edited

I am a woman, But never a feminist I was appalled by it from early in my life, and then the feminists gave me a hard time throughout university.

They do not really want women to succeed, They want women to be their Useful Idiots and become indoctrinated with their ideology. It is about destruction of the West.

I was very happy to be a mother. And an intellectual. And a non-feminist.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Any woman who wants other women to be their useful idiot is not a feminist, no matter what she calls herself. I'm a wife, a mother, a farmer, a feminist. My natural inclinations are in traditionally male fields, and this makes many women and men miserable. They accuse me of all sorts of evil, like "destruction of the west," because God made me mechanically inclined. Interestingly, my daughter is the opposite, a glamour girl and social butterfly, and many misogynists are shocked out of their puny brains when they meet her. I supported the daughter I love because I would never smash down her inclinations the way I've been treated. Signed, a feminist.

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A.'s avatar
Oct 21Edited

I seem to recall we have locked horns before. You seem to think everyone is a misogynist. Your catch-all excuse.

Sounds to me as if your daughter might be living out your Shadow, as Jung would have noted.

Feminism is being seen more and more for what it always was - a controlling ideology used for gain by totalitarians. It was never noble, BB (hate to tell you....). But it had to be presented so that it would appeal to the vanities of many women....to look superior and progressive. Gotcha!

And now that so many have wasted their lives and sacrificed the lives of their unborn children on it.....it would cause serious Cognitive Dissonance and guilt to admit the truth of feminism at this point.

For many decades, the totalitarians have had hordes of Useful Idiots through feminism. I just sat back and watched the destruction, with its miserable consequences. Knowing that I had never succumbed, and thanking God for that.

P.S. I am still intelligent, well-educated and accomplished without ever allowing feminism to taint my life. How did that happen? Feminists claim it is impossible 😁.

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"I am still intelligent, well-educated and accomplished without ever allowing feminism to taint my life." An excellent example of an oxymoron. Your life has been "tainted" by feminists. You can thank the feminists Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony pursuing making formal education available to women. If you have a bank account in your own name, you have been tainted by the feminism of 1974.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Many men are quite capable of forming their version of a "female mob," sticking together to ruin a woman. I refer to it as Wolf Packing. Those males so inclined, when in a disagreement or employment competition with a woman, will play the "she's trying to ruin all men" game and get others to join him. I've been in that rodeo many times, and I've also been helped by the lone, independent-minded male who doesn't see women as the enemy, sees the game and steps in to break up the wolf pack.

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JD Free's avatar

What the actual F?

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A.'s avatar
Oct 21Edited

BeadleBlog is one of those life-long feminists who never received the memo that feminism was a totalitarian scam. There are still several million of them who spout the standard clap-trap at every opportunity, as if from the Feminist Manual

They think the rest of us have never heard the feminists' chapter and verse before....so they repeat it (with gusto!) at every opportunity. Becomes boring and annoying, frankly. You want to recommend to them some good cult exit counseling.

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Mary L Silverberg's avatar

I remember learning in my Logic 101 class over sixty years ago that situational ethics were to be avoided. I did an AI search on situational ethics this morning and you would think, based on the result, the that situational ethics is now the preferred methodology because its achieve results that are are based on “love” and “feelings”.—.reason, logic and consistent results be damned. Unfortunately I blame my own fair sex for such absurdity.

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JD Free's avatar

Consequentialism - the doctrine that nothing is right or wrong per se; all that matters is whether it generates good or bad results.

Consequentialism is the left-wing approach, whereas the Right prefers actual principles, such as "don't lie" and "don't murder".

One of the many flaws in consequentialism is that "who decides what the greater good is" is never answered well.

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DaveL's avatar

“Greater good” is in the eye of the beholder.

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steven t koenig's avatar

I read that a couple days ago and thought it was spot-on.

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Aggie's avatar

It's an interesting essay, and I agree with a lot of it. But there's a huge blank spot that went unaddressed. One of the most strongly forbidden things in the realm of feminization is violence. Violence is treated with absolute abhorrence and condemnation, and the use of violence brings all of the opposing resources at their disposal to bear. And yet, for the community of men, it is the threat of violence that is the most important deterrent to bad behavior. The potential threat of violence is what is most effective as a deterrent for antisocial or criminal behaviors getting established in the community. Feminization removes this deterrent from the reach of men, thus placing them at an even greater disadvantage when it comes to the active management of society, or of organizations. And it can be argued that the removal of this threat does not improve society at all, rather it leaves society vulnerable, and it places actual violence, the willingness to use violence, in the hands of the criminals and antisocial types.

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JD Free's avatar

Feminization doesn't prohibit violence. It goads others into violence on its behalf.

Which is exactly what the Left does.

A google-able example is the White Feather movement.

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PaxAlto's avatar

I agree that violence wasn't discussed in the article but disagree that violence suppression is a virtue of "Feminization." Once "the hive" concludes it is being attacked (or just ignored), an informal green light is issued for unwarranted censorship, unlawful property destruction, physical and verbal abuse, doxing, targeted job terminations, debanking, and "peaceful" protests that often produce casualties and leave regions in ruin. Also, Feminization has widened the definition of violence to include one's feelings, fears, and comfort levels-- unless, of course, it's committed against straight, white males.

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Aggie's avatar

Yes but this speaks to my point: Try any of these things with an American male 50 years ago, and he would punch you in the chops, and if able to, maybe give you a good thrashing. This is a distinctly unpleasant experience - and the threat of it, the possibility that it might happen, together with the understanding that it's justified as a response against unwarranted aggression, is what used to keep people from doing it. The threat of violence keeps people a bit more considerate. You notice that these phenomenon are all relatively modern developments in society? 150 years ago, in much the old West, if somebody did you this way, you could just shoot'em.

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PaxAlto's avatar

Agree. Also challenging, threatening, or attacking someone in person requires more guts than when you do it anonymously online.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Things have changed somewhat over the last century, but I believe this abhorrence of violence is a result of boomer and older woman being socialized to reject using violence to defend themselves. I can remember the societal message that firearms are for males and "appropriate" females shouldn't handle guns. In 1970 I was 10-yrs-old in 5th grade and law enforcement came to speak to our school about safety. The girls and boys were separated by sex on each side of the auditorium instead of the usual by grade. The LEO started by talking to the girls and telling us if someone grabbed us to not fight back or we could get hurt worse. We were told to just do what he said until he let us go. He then turned to the boys and told them if they were grabbed to kick, scream and fight back. In other words, girls were being told using violence to defend themselves was out of their reach and inappropriate for girls. I was already a feminist at that tender age but that just reinforced my uncooperative attitude. Unfortunately, many females of my generation complied rather than face hostility for acting "unfeminine" and that has now come full circle.

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A.'s avatar

Women use the passive-aggressive tactic frequently, if they are the type who want to save their self-image while at the same time kicking someone in the teeth.

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Evans W's avatar

Of course the Biden crime family collected political information on hurricane victims. Why would anyone be surprised by this?

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

"People hate the government enough as it is."

Not enough to change it, at any rate.

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