PLEASE COVER THE SILENCING OF VACCINE INJURED PEOPLE! This is one of the most cruel and disgusting forms of censorship there has ever been. The media is a major partner, along with tech companies and the government.
There's been a near total blackout of reporting on hundreds of peer reviewed papers and case studies about covid vaccine injuries and the lack of government support or a functional safety net. Neither did MSM report on the CDC's obviously false claims of not seeing safety signals (when they were already clear from Israeli data) or Paul Thacker's devastating 2021 BMJ article on trial fraud.
What big tech is doing to people is also inhumane, going so far as to suspend accounts of injured people for simply talking about what happened to them and remove on line support groups for vulnerable, sometimes suicidal vaccine victims who are trying to support one another and share thoughts on treatments and symptoms.
We need some strong daylight on this issue and immediate help in the form of research, treatment, and financial compensation.
Yes. Not just Big Tech censorship but government COVID policies themselves have been callous beyond belief. The priority, evidently, was always to keep corporate profits free from harm: any input from any source that held the potential of threatening this goal--even from front-line doctors and medical experts with unimpeachable credentials--was firmly excluded, and protests that managed to see the least light of day were relentlessly suppressed. The average citizen and/or small business owner was left to look out for him/herself, and treatment options that might have saved lives were deliberately put beyond people's reach. As for seniors in nursing homes, they were at the end of the line anyway and drains on the economy. Top-level officials in a position to do the most good have instead betrayed their responsibilities and inflicted untold harm, but--hey!--Big Pharma and corporate elites are healthy--more than healthy--so mission accomplished.
We're sorry about the regrettable collateral damage, but not so sorry that we're going to permit any dissenting contributions to The Narrative. If we have to we can always retroactively amend laws to make ourselves even more invulnerable, and--boy!--can we afford lawyers now!
It goes beyond just profits into the entire project of MRNA vaccines and therapies. A huge pile of money has since gone into this tech. The drug companies have managed to pull off the feat of greatly reducing the regulatory process for release of subsequent MRNA products into the market as well as permanent liability protection for any subsequent MRNA vaccines. (The entire reason the COVID vaccine was added to childhood schedule). It’s a disaster and a crime of magnificent proportions right out in the open.
Matt will get there eventually. He won't get out in front on this one. That's just not how he operates. But I do look forward to the day when he finally sees through the smokescreen and gives voice to the millions who have been injured and killed by these quite obviously toxic injections. I also look forward to his media criticism re: lab leak. That one should be coming sooner, especially with Simon & Schuster set to publish a damning expose from Dr. Andrew Huff tomorrow.
I don't know... he seems to be interested in truth and people hunger for the truth, as the debate's outcome shows. (Well done!)
And, as important as it is to reveal the suppression of an important political story via govt-tech censorship and willful non-reporting in the media, what I'm talking about is on a whole other level.
Those entities apply the same tactics to crush human lives on purpose and drive a wedge of stigma and "othering" through society that seems impervious to scientific facts or previous norms of human decency.
Right now, I'm less interested in the many associated (and important) rabbit holes of corruption to follow, which I agree are being revealed bit by bit (as long as your info sources aren't MSM). My focus is on justice and support for people who were injured by the vaccines.
It was wrong for the former press sec. to be suspended for linking to a news article, but it is obscene that vaccine injured people are suspended as they desperately seek help and support.
These other issues will be litigated for years, but people need help now and revealing govt-tech-media censorship of them would help immeasurably, as well as clear the path for research into improving vaccine safety and developing therapeutics for long covid and vaccine injuries.
So, I'll try to be an optimist and hope that this is the moment for a tipping point towards mercy.
Absolutely. So, I just want to finish with what I should have said more clearly at the beginning: that debate was beautiful!!
Amazing to see people willing to change their minds when truth is not obscured by the culture of opinion-dominance-via-shaming-and-silencing-and-selective-reporting. I'm equally grateful for Matt's work revealing Twitter censorship.
But I can't think of a more connected issue of greater importance than my humble request to a decent man who has everyone's ear right now.
This issue goes beyond politics and hits at the foundational way we value life. What principles (or people) are "trusted entities" willing to sacrifice to maintain power? And to what end? No better time for a reckoning than right now.
Agreed. I have a family member who was crippled by the Pfizer shot and gaslit by doctors if you need people with firsthand experience. Realnotrare.com is great as is Hart's Substack. I have completely faith in our medical establishment.
Where? Has any commentator here announced him/herself as anti-vaccines, or is this just a mistaken inference on your part from poorly understood premises?
Gene may not even realize that mRNA technology and traditional vaccines work very differently, and that an mRNA shot is not in fact a vaccine. You don't have to be an 'anti-vaxxer' to have reservations about the safety of mRNA shots; but even if you did have real or imagined grievances against vaccines, those grievances would have no relevance for mRNA--which makes the conclusion Gene has jumped to, and his intended take-down of Matt, all the funnier.
That's nice. You realize that 'appeal to authority' is a logical fallacy, right? The criteria for evaluating the truth status of propositions and/or arguments, and the criteria for ascertaining who utters or puts their seal of approval on them, are different. Or, as Nietzsche said, "An error that becomes respectable is an error that possesses one seductive charm more."
Anyone can become a victim of seduction. When you commit the fallacy of appealing to authority, though, you collaborate in your own victimization.
Wow, looks like you're still running an outdated firmware, little bot. Don't you know you're supposed to upgrade to begging for "amnesty" from all those "scaaaary anti-vaxxers" who were right about everything?
Hahaha! Oh, Gene, God bless your heart; you're breaking out all the cringe classics lol. You should really take your show to the Vegas lounge circuit. You could be a star, baby!
It's actually a superb illustration, Diane! Thanks, Gene, for providing a such clear example of the trickle-down harms wrought by government and media disinformation:
1) apply slurs and derision instead of engage with uncomfortable facts so that you can...
2) stick-to-the-narrative-at-all-costs rather than apply justice, mercy, and basic human decency towards the "collateral damage".
The truth defends itself and has no need of ad hominem attacks, censorship, stigma, etc.
I'm so sorry about what happened to your mom and for the pain of losing her. Thank you for praying for everyone... it's so important. Read Colossians 1:9 to 2:15. It will encourage you. Be rooted and built up in Christ and continue to speak truth in love. Nothing can stand against that.
And, despite their best efforts, truth cannot be concealed forever. I'm grateful for everyone who is doing your big or small part in bringing justice and mercy to those who so desperately need it.
If he responds to you, plan on it being Bush’s fault. He relates everything, toothpaste, shoe laces, meat, ect to Bush if he doesn’t like it. It is an illness.
Terrible story. Glad you shared it. As a recovering lacunar infarct (14 months post-jabs) victim (I use the word as judiciously as I can--as in "I hope I'm not simply suffering from a nocebo effect"), I was "happy" to see that I wasn't alone. Check your batch # VAERS data at howbadismybatch.com to learn where you stand if you took the jab. My EN6204 and EW0162 batches were "bad actors", as it turned out.
Thanks, too, for the link. There's some real plausibility with what you shared.
You should know that on the NIH stroke scale (zero to 42 with 42 as the worst), I scored a "1". (Can't call me a zero anymore!) I'm blessed. Small thrombogenic clotting episode in the ventral posterolateral thalamus. Dodged a nasty bullet! Didn't want to get the jab because my wife (she's vax free) and I felt as though we MUST have had COVID in December of 2019. I took the jabs to avoid a hassle upon my return to the US after vacationing in Cancun with my daughter. Dumb move. The evidence is pointing to the fact that the virus was over here as early as June, 2019, or earlier.
Oops. Looks like I'm covered through a Quercetin Complex product from Solgar except for the recommended 30mg of Rutin. The Solgar complex has only 10mg. May have to shake up the box to bring things in line with the Neuroprotex product. This weird "world of suplements" is a strange environment.
I am so sorry, Diane, for what was done to your mother and for the suffering yohr family has endured. My mother is still with us, but was basically crippled from the Pfizer shot and shunned by doctors, so I have some, albeit trivial compared to your experience, understanding of the confusion, sadness, and rage brought about by this criminal atrocity being thrust on all of us. God bless you.
Not sure if punctuation would have made a difference. Math or science? I'm guessing math is imprecise (which, as we know, cannot prove every theorem out there).
Awesome job Matt, awesome job Douglas! Seeing Malcolm speak and looking at his books from this new paradigm makes me think of him as a more shallow 'hot take' writer then I ever imagined. I always thought he was pithy, yet after seeing him speak for the full debate he seems far more shallow and superficial than I ever imagined, and nasty.
Boy, Malc and Mich are painful to watch. You and Doug were great.
There was, however, one moment I think should have been leapt on more aggressively, when we saw on stage precisely the corruption you're talking about really play out in real time - when Mich said "about Club Q, nobody believes that he is non-binary.... It’s simply that everyone knew that he was trolling us when he said that."
Really? Why do you believe that, Mich? Because I don't remember reading an article detailing the shooter's history, revealing that he was a right-wing agitator with no history of claiming to be non-binary. If that story was investigated and reported, I somehow missed it. Why did Mich not "believe" he was non-binary and why did "everyone" know he was trolling, in the absence of actual reporting on who he was? Surely, "shooter is trolling the courts and the public by falsely claiming to be non-binary" would be newsworthy. But, no, I have not seen that story. Why have I not seen that story?
Because it does not exist. "Everyone" knew he was trolling because "everyone" in the MSM is an incurious partisan hack who "knows" counter-narrative stories are false without having to bother uncovering the facts. In other words, what Mich did onstage is precisely what obviously happens in the newsrooms - the narrative rules. Everyone knew Saddam had WMD. Everyone knew Trump was colluding with Putin to hack the election. Everyone knew the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian disinformation campaign. Everyone knew the Covid vaccines would stop the spread. Everyone knew lab leak was a racist right-wing conspiracy theory. Everyone knows Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not a response to 30 years of NATO expansion. Everyone knows Ukraine can win the war if the US just sends them hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons. Everyone knew the trucker protests were about white supremacy and misogyny. Everyone knows the Q shooter is trolling with the non-binary identification. Everyone knows these things not because they are true, but because "everyone" allowed into the hallowed halls of the MSM is a certified hack.
Anything that supports the narrative is reported without being subject to any scrutiny. Anything that undermines the narrative is believed and known by "everyone" to be false, and thus not investigated or reported on. So you get loads of false pro-narrative stories, and true counter-narrative stories are suppressed. Mich exposed how the machine works in a nutshell - everyone just knows and believes the "right" things. I think this was transparent in real-time for anyone paying attention, but there were some points to be scored there that were left on the table.
But I'm just Monday morning quarterbacking here. You guys kicked ass.
Your opponents came entirely unprepared, seemingly expecting some deplorables. Instead they ended up in over their heads, just like the Twitter executives.
Fantastic debate...I watched the whole thing with my husband last night, and I found it so informative. It was interesting to see some of the fallacious arguments put forward by "Malc" and Michelle.
I was curious about the article she wrote that she claimed was fair and balanced. I can't get at the full NY Times edition, but I did find the following article (linked). In the opening paragraph she references the infamous "mushrooms" brought up in her debate. Some of the words and phrases sprinkled throughout, include occupation, extremists, encampment, takeover, far-right, Diagalon, and of course, not to disappoint, Donald Trump.
Oh, and a fair and balanced first-hand account, would not be complete without summoning the grammar police, so that everyone knows Michelle knows her punctuation. As for the "deplorables," not so much:
'Mr. Wall was sitting in the passenger seat of a black truck owned by a friend he’d made in Ottawa. It was covered in painted slogans, some with imperfect punctuation: “Dad’s On a Mission,” “Bless You in Advance Boys in Blue,” “Superhero’s Never Die.'
Again, I'd like to say "bravo" to you and Douglas Murray. That was the most satisfying thing I've watched all week. Take that, CBC.
Abridged version of article referenced in the debate (I think):
Thanks for getting the receipts on that one. I was taken aback when Michelle indicated that she provided favorable coverage of the trucker protests. I certainly did not recall encountering any such thing in the pages of the NYT. And, as you point out here, what Michelle considers balanced coverage of that movement in protest of a dramatic assault on the rights of all Canadians amounts to "there were some people there who were not literal Nazis." Michelle is the worst kind of hack.
That's how far gone over the cliff, some of the left have fallen. From her POV, she sees no problem, because she sees what she wants to see. Having family that was in Ottawa (some live there, others travelled), I'm quite certain that Michelle could have found another two people to interview, to balance the mushroom-tripping electrician and underpaid, potty mouthed actress.
On a slightly related note, I hope the electrician didn't lose his job/business. She shared his name and province. I don't imagine people who hire electricians (as in short supply as they are) want one who is distracted by " Lucy in the sky with diamonds." 🎆 And now I'm singing 🎶🎵
Wow. I watched the debate and was surprised at the smugness of your opponents, especially Malcolm Gladwell. I believe somewhere within their arguments could have laid some valid points. However any information that they could presented in good faith was overshadowed by their total lack of seriousness and distain for any media what was not preordained legacy media.
By the way, great work on the twitter files. Anyone who has been vilified by the right and left, is all good in my book.
Matt, good God the reaction to your work, thou doth protest too much. The pure vitriol for your thread puts on display the insane hypocrisy of the left. Well , you're not carrying water for musk, you're carrying it for democracy. Thank you for your work, the one guy who called you a lazy journalist! Good lord.
I think it’s because he’s dumb. He’s the midwit’s idea of an intellectual. A complete phony who says deeply uninteresting conventional shit while pretending to be making profound insights. So I’m not surprised pronouncing “Taibbi” is outside of his limited range of competence.
God, I hate to be so base, but Malcolm Gladwell… what an ass clown! Per him, “A conspiracy theory is a theory in which one assumes a degree of unanimity and collaboration amongst one’s foes.”
So fifty years of anti-mafia RICO predicates are just crazy peoples’ inventions? Conspiracy is against the law, and prosecuted, like, weekly.
Would that this kind of forum (debate) be revived as a central component of news itself - and by that I mean not the curated MSM insertion of a differing opinion but seasoned journalists going head to head on perhaps the most critical element of democracy- Free speech. For without a truly informed public, democracy cannot survive.
I believe, as many have concluded, that within capitalist democracy, this has already been accomplished, and it’s heartbreaking that those who are unwittingly inside the press matrix believe in their failed institution, and will defend it even when the public on the whole have lost trust. As pointed out, MSM cannot grasp that its their responsibility to look at their own culpability.
A common liberal defense is “all those people are stupid or conspiracy theorists” further alienates, creates us vs them, and shows the blindness of privilege perceiving itself as the real “truth” bearers.
In the 1800’s (I will use William Llyod Garrison’s Liberator as a prime example on a topic- slavery), newspapers were numerous, crammed with debate, proposals and rebuttals, bombast and counter bombing, letters, voices famous and known, published by subscription and often barely making ends meet. I‘m afraid Matt’s reference to the days of old newscasters was a mistake, as it gave Malcom the opportunity to strike back with identity politics at every turn.
It also glorified the idea its possible to have truly trustful centralized media, for as then, just like now, giving one’s trust to an individual or organization, no matter who or what, is dangerous. A *full* trust of any information source inherently robs individuals of the capacity to reason and engage in thinking for themselves.
While this would have side-tracked everything in the debate, it’s essential to question whether any media can be trusted. (Though in this debate, that would have been countered as a form of denialism or apathy.) Accountability and accuracy of facts is one aspect of the forth estates responsibility. But just as important, it is the need for engaged civic discussion and analysis that creates conditions leading to a reasoned, informed trust of news.
By positioning humans as recipients who can trust, or not, creates a framework of passivity despite emphasis on what are reliable facts.
There was a time and the right conditions when opposing information and personal voices could rise into public awareness, with forums (I don’t include Twitter in that category) to create a democratized, informed discussion. The Abolitionists were, in my opinion, the most successful human rights organ to promote the truth and influence others through the use of the press. The narratives of slaves had tremendous impact, furthered by speeches by Frederick Douglass and Sojourner Truth, who travelled state by state, town by town to educate others through personal experience.
In addition to newspapers like the Liberator were the Lyceums which held debates and speeches, conventions elevating individual voices-- ways in which people were able, to some degree, to recognize each other’s humanity. You guys are paving the way towards this, and that’s why I spend (perhaps) too much time on Substack and the study of history. This is why I rely on reporters such as Matt, Eva Bartlett, Chris Hedges, Ben Norton, and Scott Ritter.
It’s my opinion that critical thinking does not develop through trust, but through doubt and questioning. Though to add, doubting MSM, as many have come to do, doesn’t necessarily result in clarity or seeking well-informed sources, because the democratization of non-corporate funded “news” can be equally indoctrinating.
Sorely missing is a well-educated public who have learned to question, research, reason and communicate through debate and analysis. MSM and technology and the political news bias continue to rob us of “informed consent” in a society where we have lost the ability talk to each other. Twitter isn’t a place to have real discussion. Roger Waters says we need to go back to the bar (or pub) where we meet people not like ourselves but by circumstance, will rub elbows with and talk to.
This is why I’m so happy to have seen this debate, and for Substack, and for a forum like this to engage in. I saw today a confirmation that resistance by those in power is a blind , delusional need to self-affirm at the cost of our own freedom and liberty: As news consumers, its our responsibility think, question and examine, reference and seek contextualized information.
In sum, (sorry for my long post ) MSM’s perversion is not only of its biases, but its ability to prevent us from thinking for ourselves. I thereby choose to place trust, to the degree I’ve learned the skills necessary to develop it, in those who have earned it. As you have.
PLEASE COVER THE SILENCING OF VACCINE INJURED PEOPLE! This is one of the most cruel and disgusting forms of censorship there has ever been. The media is a major partner, along with tech companies and the government.
There's been a near total blackout of reporting on hundreds of peer reviewed papers and case studies about covid vaccine injuries and the lack of government support or a functional safety net. Neither did MSM report on the CDC's obviously false claims of not seeing safety signals (when they were already clear from Israeli data) or Paul Thacker's devastating 2021 BMJ article on trial fraud.
What big tech is doing to people is also inhumane, going so far as to suspend accounts of injured people for simply talking about what happened to them and remove on line support groups for vulnerable, sometimes suicidal vaccine victims who are trying to support one another and share thoughts on treatments and symptoms.
We need some strong daylight on this issue and immediate help in the form of research, treatment, and financial compensation.
Yes. Not just Big Tech censorship but government COVID policies themselves have been callous beyond belief. The priority, evidently, was always to keep corporate profits free from harm: any input from any source that held the potential of threatening this goal--even from front-line doctors and medical experts with unimpeachable credentials--was firmly excluded, and protests that managed to see the least light of day were relentlessly suppressed. The average citizen and/or small business owner was left to look out for him/herself, and treatment options that might have saved lives were deliberately put beyond people's reach. As for seniors in nursing homes, they were at the end of the line anyway and drains on the economy. Top-level officials in a position to do the most good have instead betrayed their responsibilities and inflicted untold harm, but--hey!--Big Pharma and corporate elites are healthy--more than healthy--so mission accomplished.
We're sorry about the regrettable collateral damage, but not so sorry that we're going to permit any dissenting contributions to The Narrative. If we have to we can always retroactively amend laws to make ourselves even more invulnerable, and--boy!--can we afford lawyers now!
It goes beyond just profits into the entire project of MRNA vaccines and therapies. A huge pile of money has since gone into this tech. The drug companies have managed to pull off the feat of greatly reducing the regulatory process for release of subsequent MRNA products into the market as well as permanent liability protection for any subsequent MRNA vaccines. (The entire reason the COVID vaccine was added to childhood schedule). It’s a disaster and a crime of magnificent proportions right out in the open.
Matt will get there eventually. He won't get out in front on this one. That's just not how he operates. But I do look forward to the day when he finally sees through the smokescreen and gives voice to the millions who have been injured and killed by these quite obviously toxic injections. I also look forward to his media criticism re: lab leak. That one should be coming sooner, especially with Simon & Schuster set to publish a damning expose from Dr. Andrew Huff tomorrow.
I don't know... he seems to be interested in truth and people hunger for the truth, as the debate's outcome shows. (Well done!)
And, as important as it is to reveal the suppression of an important political story via govt-tech censorship and willful non-reporting in the media, what I'm talking about is on a whole other level.
Those entities apply the same tactics to crush human lives on purpose and drive a wedge of stigma and "othering" through society that seems impervious to scientific facts or previous norms of human decency.
Right now, I'm less interested in the many associated (and important) rabbit holes of corruption to follow, which I agree are being revealed bit by bit (as long as your info sources aren't MSM). My focus is on justice and support for people who were injured by the vaccines.
It was wrong for the former press sec. to be suspended for linking to a news article, but it is obscene that vaccine injured people are suspended as they desperately seek help and support.
These other issues will be litigated for years, but people need help now and revealing govt-tech-media censorship of them would help immeasurably, as well as clear the path for research into improving vaccine safety and developing therapeutics for long covid and vaccine injuries.
So, I'll try to be an optimist and hope that this is the moment for a tipping point towards mercy.
Kathy: Agreed!!! The most important issue of our time. The crime of all time.
Is it possible to stay on topic?
Absolutely. So, I just want to finish with what I should have said more clearly at the beginning: that debate was beautiful!!
Amazing to see people willing to change their minds when truth is not obscured by the culture of opinion-dominance-via-shaming-and-silencing-and-selective-reporting. I'm equally grateful for Matt's work revealing Twitter censorship.
But I can't think of a more connected issue of greater importance than my humble request to a decent man who has everyone's ear right now.
This issue goes beyond politics and hits at the foundational way we value life. What principles (or people) are "trusted entities" willing to sacrifice to maintain power? And to what end? No better time for a reckoning than right now.
Agreed. I have a family member who was crippled by the Pfizer shot and gaslit by doctors if you need people with firsthand experience. Realnotrare.com is great as is Hart's Substack. I have completely faith in our medical establishment.
*lost faith
Didn't there used to be an edit feature? :/
Does pointing out that a particular medicine has side effects make someone anti-medicine?
Where? Has any commentator here announced him/herself as anti-vaccines, or is this just a mistaken inference on your part from poorly understood premises?
The traditional definition of vaccines or the one from 5 minutes ago?
Gene may not even realize that mRNA technology and traditional vaccines work very differently, and that an mRNA shot is not in fact a vaccine. You don't have to be an 'anti-vaxxer' to have reservations about the safety of mRNA shots; but even if you did have real or imagined grievances against vaccines, those grievances would have no relevance for mRNA--which makes the conclusion Gene has jumped to, and his intended take-down of Matt, all the funnier.
Have you heard of, say, Vioxx? It was FDA approved.
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/postmarket-drug-safety-information-patients-and-providers/vioxx-rofecoxib-questions-and-answers
That's nice. You realize that 'appeal to authority' is a logical fallacy, right? The criteria for evaluating the truth status of propositions and/or arguments, and the criteria for ascertaining who utters or puts their seal of approval on them, are different. Or, as Nietzsche said, "An error that becomes respectable is an error that possesses one seductive charm more."
Anyone can become a victim of seduction. When you commit the fallacy of appealing to authority, though, you collaborate in your own victimization.
Wow, looks like you're still running an outdated firmware, little bot. Don't you know you're supposed to upgrade to begging for "amnesty" from all those "scaaaary anti-vaxxers" who were right about everything?
Hahaha! Oh, Gene, God bless your heart; you're breaking out all the cringe classics lol. You should really take your show to the Vegas lounge circuit. You could be a star, baby!
https://react19.org/1250-covid-vaccine-reports/
https://react19.org/cicp/
It's actually a superb illustration, Diane! Thanks, Gene, for providing a such clear example of the trickle-down harms wrought by government and media disinformation:
1) apply slurs and derision instead of engage with uncomfortable facts so that you can...
2) stick-to-the-narrative-at-all-costs rather than apply justice, mercy, and basic human decency towards the "collateral damage".
The truth defends itself and has no need of ad hominem attacks, censorship, stigma, etc.
I'm so sorry about what happened to your mom and for the pain of losing her. Thank you for praying for everyone... it's so important. Read Colossians 1:9 to 2:15. It will encourage you. Be rooted and built up in Christ and continue to speak truth in love. Nothing can stand against that.
And, despite their best efforts, truth cannot be concealed forever. I'm grateful for everyone who is doing your big or small part in bringing justice and mercy to those who so desperately need it.
He's a troll, and his goal is to derail discussions and provoke angry responses. Ignore him.
If he responds to you, plan on it being Bush’s fault. He relates everything, toothpaste, shoe laces, meat, ect to Bush if he doesn’t like it. It is an illness.
Terrible story. Glad you shared it. As a recovering lacunar infarct (14 months post-jabs) victim (I use the word as judiciously as I can--as in "I hope I'm not simply suffering from a nocebo effect"), I was "happy" to see that I wasn't alone. Check your batch # VAERS data at howbadismybatch.com to learn where you stand if you took the jab. My EN6204 and EW0162 batches were "bad actors", as it turned out.
Thanks, too, for the link. There's some real plausibility with what you shared.
You should know that on the NIH stroke scale (zero to 42 with 42 as the worst), I scored a "1". (Can't call me a zero anymore!) I'm blessed. Small thrombogenic clotting episode in the ventral posterolateral thalamus. Dodged a nasty bullet! Didn't want to get the jab because my wife (she's vax free) and I felt as though we MUST have had COVID in December of 2019. I took the jabs to avoid a hassle upon my return to the US after vacationing in Cancun with my daughter. Dumb move. The evidence is pointing to the fact that the virus was over here as early as June, 2019, or earlier.
Oops. Looks like I'm covered through a Quercetin Complex product from Solgar except for the recommended 30mg of Rutin. The Solgar complex has only 10mg. May have to shake up the box to bring things in line with the Neuroprotex product. This weird "world of suplements" is a strange environment.
I am so sorry, Diane, for what was done to your mother and for the suffering yohr family has endured. My mother is still with us, but was basically crippled from the Pfizer shot and shunned by doctors, so I have some, albeit trivial compared to your experience, understanding of the confusion, sadness, and rage brought about by this criminal atrocity being thrust on all of us. God bless you.
Science is not math it’s not precise.
Math isn't precise?
Reading is fundamental
If reading is fundamental, the reread that sentence. Science is not precise then?
Science =/= math
Math = precise
Science =/= precise
Not sure if punctuation would have made a difference. Math or science? I'm guessing math is imprecise (which, as we know, cannot prove every theorem out there).
Awesome job Matt, awesome job Douglas! Seeing Malcolm speak and looking at his books from this new paradigm makes me think of him as a more shallow 'hot take' writer then I ever imagined. I always thought he was pithy, yet after seeing him speak for the full debate he seems far more shallow and superficial than I ever imagined, and nasty.
Boy, Malc and Mich are painful to watch. You and Doug were great.
There was, however, one moment I think should have been leapt on more aggressively, when we saw on stage precisely the corruption you're talking about really play out in real time - when Mich said "about Club Q, nobody believes that he is non-binary.... It’s simply that everyone knew that he was trolling us when he said that."
Really? Why do you believe that, Mich? Because I don't remember reading an article detailing the shooter's history, revealing that he was a right-wing agitator with no history of claiming to be non-binary. If that story was investigated and reported, I somehow missed it. Why did Mich not "believe" he was non-binary and why did "everyone" know he was trolling, in the absence of actual reporting on who he was? Surely, "shooter is trolling the courts and the public by falsely claiming to be non-binary" would be newsworthy. But, no, I have not seen that story. Why have I not seen that story?
Because it does not exist. "Everyone" knew he was trolling because "everyone" in the MSM is an incurious partisan hack who "knows" counter-narrative stories are false without having to bother uncovering the facts. In other words, what Mich did onstage is precisely what obviously happens in the newsrooms - the narrative rules. Everyone knew Saddam had WMD. Everyone knew Trump was colluding with Putin to hack the election. Everyone knew the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian disinformation campaign. Everyone knew the Covid vaccines would stop the spread. Everyone knew lab leak was a racist right-wing conspiracy theory. Everyone knows Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not a response to 30 years of NATO expansion. Everyone knows Ukraine can win the war if the US just sends them hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons. Everyone knew the trucker protests were about white supremacy and misogyny. Everyone knows the Q shooter is trolling with the non-binary identification. Everyone knows these things not because they are true, but because "everyone" allowed into the hallowed halls of the MSM is a certified hack.
Anything that supports the narrative is reported without being subject to any scrutiny. Anything that undermines the narrative is believed and known by "everyone" to be false, and thus not investigated or reported on. So you get loads of false pro-narrative stories, and true counter-narrative stories are suppressed. Mich exposed how the machine works in a nutshell - everyone just knows and believes the "right" things. I think this was transparent in real-time for anyone paying attention, but there were some points to be scored there that were left on the table.
But I'm just Monday morning quarterbacking here. You guys kicked ass.
Hear hear! 👏
Your opponents came entirely unprepared, seemingly expecting some deplorables. Instead they ended up in over their heads, just like the Twitter executives.
Fantastic debate...I watched the whole thing with my husband last night, and I found it so informative. It was interesting to see some of the fallacious arguments put forward by "Malc" and Michelle.
I was curious about the article she wrote that she claimed was fair and balanced. I can't get at the full NY Times edition, but I did find the following article (linked). In the opening paragraph she references the infamous "mushrooms" brought up in her debate. Some of the words and phrases sprinkled throughout, include occupation, extremists, encampment, takeover, far-right, Diagalon, and of course, not to disappoint, Donald Trump.
Oh, and a fair and balanced first-hand account, would not be complete without summoning the grammar police, so that everyone knows Michelle knows her punctuation. As for the "deplorables," not so much:
'Mr. Wall was sitting in the passenger seat of a black truck owned by a friend he’d made in Ottawa. It was covered in painted slogans, some with imperfect punctuation: “Dad’s On a Mission,” “Bless You in Advance Boys in Blue,” “Superhero’s Never Die.'
Again, I'd like to say "bravo" to you and Douglas Murray. That was the most satisfying thing I've watched all week. Take that, CBC.
Abridged version of article referenced in the debate (I think):
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/op-ed/bs-ed-op-0223-canada-trucker-protest-20220222-ar7hj2cqjbc6xfwhjgtw3pkhwe-story.html
Thanks for getting the receipts on that one. I was taken aback when Michelle indicated that she provided favorable coverage of the trucker protests. I certainly did not recall encountering any such thing in the pages of the NYT. And, as you point out here, what Michelle considers balanced coverage of that movement in protest of a dramatic assault on the rights of all Canadians amounts to "there were some people there who were not literal Nazis." Michelle is the worst kind of hack.
That's how far gone over the cliff, some of the left have fallen. From her POV, she sees no problem, because she sees what she wants to see. Having family that was in Ottawa (some live there, others travelled), I'm quite certain that Michelle could have found another two people to interview, to balance the mushroom-tripping electrician and underpaid, potty mouthed actress.
On a slightly related note, I hope the electrician didn't lose his job/business. She shared his name and province. I don't imagine people who hire electricians (as in short supply as they are) want one who is distracted by " Lucy in the sky with diamonds." 🎆 And now I'm singing 🎶🎵
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Our family really respects you. My 93 year old mother wanted to make sure you knew it.
Reading the transcript would have been faster, but nothing matches watching the video. "MALC!" says it all. Smart audience as well.
Wow. I watched the debate and was surprised at the smugness of your opponents, especially Malcolm Gladwell. I believe somewhere within their arguments could have laid some valid points. However any information that they could presented in good faith was overshadowed by their total lack of seriousness and distain for any media what was not preordained legacy media.
By the way, great work on the twitter files. Anyone who has been vilified by the right and left, is all good in my book.
The tragedy is that this was a subject of debate at all.
One of the many layers of the deceitful muzzling we suffer under here in 1984.
Thank you
Matt, good God the reaction to your work, thou doth protest too much. The pure vitriol for your thread puts on display the insane hypocrisy of the left. Well , you're not carrying water for musk, you're carrying it for democracy. Thank you for your work, the one guy who called you a lazy journalist! Good lord.
Why does Malcolm Gladwell keep mispronouncing Matt Taibbi's name? What was that all about? That struck me as very odd.
I think it’s because he’s dumb. He’s the midwit’s idea of an intellectual. A complete phony who says deeply uninteresting conventional shit while pretending to be making profound insights. So I’m not surprised pronouncing “Taibbi” is outside of his limited range of competence.
Thank you! I look forward to reading it. Thank you for your courage. Courage seems to be anathema to journalists.
Amazing debate, you and Douglas Murray made Malcolm Gladwell and Michelle Goldberg look idiotic
God, I hate to be so base, but Malcolm Gladwell… what an ass clown! Per him, “A conspiracy theory is a theory in which one assumes a degree of unanimity and collaboration amongst one’s foes.”
So fifty years of anti-mafia RICO predicates are just crazy peoples’ inventions? Conspiracy is against the law, and prosecuted, like, weekly.
Would that this kind of forum (debate) be revived as a central component of news itself - and by that I mean not the curated MSM insertion of a differing opinion but seasoned journalists going head to head on perhaps the most critical element of democracy- Free speech. For without a truly informed public, democracy cannot survive.
I believe, as many have concluded, that within capitalist democracy, this has already been accomplished, and it’s heartbreaking that those who are unwittingly inside the press matrix believe in their failed institution, and will defend it even when the public on the whole have lost trust. As pointed out, MSM cannot grasp that its their responsibility to look at their own culpability.
A common liberal defense is “all those people are stupid or conspiracy theorists” further alienates, creates us vs them, and shows the blindness of privilege perceiving itself as the real “truth” bearers.
In the 1800’s (I will use William Llyod Garrison’s Liberator as a prime example on a topic- slavery), newspapers were numerous, crammed with debate, proposals and rebuttals, bombast and counter bombing, letters, voices famous and known, published by subscription and often barely making ends meet. I‘m afraid Matt’s reference to the days of old newscasters was a mistake, as it gave Malcom the opportunity to strike back with identity politics at every turn.
It also glorified the idea its possible to have truly trustful centralized media, for as then, just like now, giving one’s trust to an individual or organization, no matter who or what, is dangerous. A *full* trust of any information source inherently robs individuals of the capacity to reason and engage in thinking for themselves.
While this would have side-tracked everything in the debate, it’s essential to question whether any media can be trusted. (Though in this debate, that would have been countered as a form of denialism or apathy.) Accountability and accuracy of facts is one aspect of the forth estates responsibility. But just as important, it is the need for engaged civic discussion and analysis that creates conditions leading to a reasoned, informed trust of news.
By positioning humans as recipients who can trust, or not, creates a framework of passivity despite emphasis on what are reliable facts.
There was a time and the right conditions when opposing information and personal voices could rise into public awareness, with forums (I don’t include Twitter in that category) to create a democratized, informed discussion. The Abolitionists were, in my opinion, the most successful human rights organ to promote the truth and influence others through the use of the press. The narratives of slaves had tremendous impact, furthered by speeches by Frederick Douglass and Sojourner Truth, who travelled state by state, town by town to educate others through personal experience.
In addition to newspapers like the Liberator were the Lyceums which held debates and speeches, conventions elevating individual voices-- ways in which people were able, to some degree, to recognize each other’s humanity. You guys are paving the way towards this, and that’s why I spend (perhaps) too much time on Substack and the study of history. This is why I rely on reporters such as Matt, Eva Bartlett, Chris Hedges, Ben Norton, and Scott Ritter.
It’s my opinion that critical thinking does not develop through trust, but through doubt and questioning. Though to add, doubting MSM, as many have come to do, doesn’t necessarily result in clarity or seeking well-informed sources, because the democratization of non-corporate funded “news” can be equally indoctrinating.
Sorely missing is a well-educated public who have learned to question, research, reason and communicate through debate and analysis. MSM and technology and the political news bias continue to rob us of “informed consent” in a society where we have lost the ability talk to each other. Twitter isn’t a place to have real discussion. Roger Waters says we need to go back to the bar (or pub) where we meet people not like ourselves but by circumstance, will rub elbows with and talk to.
This is why I’m so happy to have seen this debate, and for Substack, and for a forum like this to engage in. I saw today a confirmation that resistance by those in power is a blind , delusional need to self-affirm at the cost of our own freedom and liberty: As news consumers, its our responsibility think, question and examine, reference and seek contextualized information.
In sum, (sorry for my long post ) MSM’s perversion is not only of its biases, but its ability to prevent us from thinking for ourselves. I thereby choose to place trust, to the degree I’ve learned the skills necessary to develop it, in those who have earned it. As you have.