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Menno's avatar

I predict that irrespective of the outcome of today’s elections shit will carry on same as before

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Tarun's avatar

Shit might hit the fan tho,, for Fauci and a few others... take the good with the bad

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LifeIsMessy's avatar

I'd love to think that Fauci get what he deserves, but that chances of that happening are tiny, even with republicans holding both houses

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Tarun's avatar

Rand thinks he has a case.

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LifeIsMessy's avatar

I am sure he has a case. I don't have any confidence that he will be able to prosecute it, even with republicans in control.

They will call for forgiveness. They will say "Mistakes were made", and no one will pay, and the drug companies will keep their profits, and the dead will rot and the many of the living will suffer.

I don't want to believe this but I do.

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ellen mccarthy's avatar

agree sadly

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Kelly Green's avatar

We don't need to prosecute the case to learn the lesson. The lesson is that the NIH's number one job in a pandemic is to test repurposed generic medicines for possible benefit, since there is no profit motive for anyone else to test them.

The cardinal sin from Fauci was not doing that job. Fauci and Collins proudly talked about how smart they were because they were approaching the pandemic with a public-private partnership focus. In doing so, they did what they thought was best but they were simply terribly wrong. Pfizer didn't even take money from the Feds because of all the strings and because of the very high potential profits. That profit motive alone was sufficient to drive their efforts. It didn't need federal subsidies.

But repurposed generic drugs did, and it is a failing that NIH didn't start testing them until April 2021. Instead, we argued there was no good data to know the real answers and that data on ivermectin from brown people overseas wasn't to be trusted. Now we have positive data from folks at Duke and Vanderbilt on ivermectin but it's too late to matter.

But we don't have to make that mistake next time, and we don't have to incriminate Fauci to point out this failing in a way that can result in us not doing the same thing ever again.

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Melanie's avatar

The bigger they are, the harder they get screwed when they fall.

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CRC Business's avatar

Fauci--come to Coeur d'alene. Baseball bat waiting to be placed in your forehead.

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lucrezia's avatar

Classy.

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LifeIsMessy's avatar

You're an ass. Couer d'Alene is a beautiful little city.

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LifeIsMessy's avatar

If you ever grow out of your tribalism then you may have something more worthwhile to contribute here.

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George Petrov's avatar

Fauci did the best he could under difficult circumstances. And please don't forget Operation Warp Speed. That wasn't Fauci, but his political master.

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Stop Being Lied To's avatar

CV was fauci's 3rd blunder of bloody consequences. Don't forget his first foray into profit and politics over medicine and science: AIDS

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Craig's avatar

Everybody forgets about his disaster with AIDS. It is not everyday you go against the research and say it is a communicable disease.

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Tarun's avatar

this is where i part ways with the shit lib left

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Blah's avatar

Right there with you.

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LifeIsMessy's avatar

Read RFK Jr's book "The Real Anthony Fauci", and get back to us.

Trump sucked in many ways, not least of which was his failure to get rid of Fauci and confront the medical/pharma cabal. Im willing to accept that maybe his hands were tied in ways we aren't aware of but that may be giving him too much credit. It seems, however that you've just pointed at him for some partisan whataboutism along with your weak defense of Fauci.

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Melanie's avatar

Considering I now have Parkinson's as a result of Fauci's assholery, I don't agree.

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Sevender's avatar

Happened to a neighbor. Happen to have a study I could refer her to?

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Just An American's avatar

Blame the man behind the curtain. Nothing to see here, masks and the vaccines work!

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CRC Business's avatar

Trump pedophile with Fauci mass murderer. perfect storm.

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James Fenkner's avatar

you are kidding, right?

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.mas's avatar

Um. What?

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bjd's avatar

Fauci should be masked, vaccinated, boosted, locked down and distanced for life.

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George Petrov's avatar

Things can always get worse

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Tarun's avatar

Do they ever get better?

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George Petrov's avatar

They did, in 1946, for many, but not all, people.

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Tarun's avatar

'32 was a good year

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Janine's avatar

Cheer up

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Trevor Tyrrell's avatar

But not much worse...

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Ivan's avatar

The times they are a changin'.

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Karl Humungus's avatar

Now with constant show trials!

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Eileen Thornton Renda's avatar

Sorrifily ... I agree.

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.mas's avatar

This is hands down the best prediction for election '22 I've heard so far. Also for every other election, pretty much.

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Betsy Cushman's avatar

Very sad.. frustrating.

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LifeIsMessy's avatar

There won't be meaningful change until frustration turns to anger on a wide scale. By that time much will have been lost.

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ResistWeMuch's avatar

yep, the time for a tax revolt to prevent all this crap was about 30 years ago. a tax revolt now will prevent the hell we will live in 20 or 30 years from now.

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.mas's avatar

Yeah. Except that's actually the very definition of US politics (on the national scale, and mostly on local as well at this point). Has been since, basically, since I started voting in the late 80's? I recently gave up voting (as of 2020). Post covid, even the stench of the Greens makes me gag.

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Sean H's avatar

yeah, agree that things will be more or less the same as it ever was...deep state chugs along regardless

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George Petrov's avatar

Even those guys can be surprised by events. No one runs this planet.

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Chris Kaufmann's avatar

And until Citizens United is overturned... won’t happen IMO

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Stop Being Lied To's avatar

LOL... and you honestly believe Citizens United changed ANYthing? You honestly believe banks, corps, and the MIC (that's medical industrial complex) didn't rule BEFORE Citizens United?

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LifeIsMessy's avatar

Citizens United just made their job a little easier. Anything that contributes to centralization of power is bad in my book.

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