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Orenv's avatar

Getting a visa makes you a guest of the government. Why would any government tolerate guests who rally against them? It really is that simple. You choose your guests, you are stuck with family...

ambrosia's avatar

From what I understand, Mr Khalil was rallying against a FOREIGN Middle Eastern government of a country far far away. Why is it such a problem? Also, due process applies to everyone. A visa holder must be charged with a crime prior to being incarcerated.

Orenv's avatar

The world is a small place. The President has the authority to expel any non citizen that they deem to be a "problem". It really is that simple. Due process does not apply. He was being deported and in custody for that. It was held up by a judge, and he is being held pending the outcome. Neither you nor I really have any idea of the details of the case and it is unlikely we will know anything for a long time.

ambrosia's avatar

Extraordinary rendition 2.0

Orenv's avatar

He can be free in less than a day. All he has to do is leave.

mKe hOSTETTLER's avatar

Well he can be MY guest, and I demand my guests rally against the US government.

Orenv's avatar

I hope you are buying your guests round trip tickets and let them know what you are getting them into.

Kurt's avatar

You can grant freedom of speech to citizens and not green card holders, that's your choice.

I grant freedom of speech to human beings.

Orenv's avatar

He is free to say whatever he wants from his own country as far as the USA is concerned.

Orenv's avatar

Change the constitution if you can. There is an amendment process.

Kurt's avatar

I don't need the constitution for me to grant freedom of speech to who I want. Show some intelligence.

Orenv's avatar

I guess I misunderstood. Yes, you can let anyone say anything to you, or in your presence. I am good with that.

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Orenv's avatar

I would venture that more than half of the country supports Israel, certainly over Hamas. You should get out more. The government gets to decide the other question. Our elected government in the form of the President, made a decision. Pretty much in line with what he said he would do before the election.

Katherine Blair's avatar

Kate, if that was all he had done, no problem. Distributing material in support of a group that has been identified by the United States Government as a terrorists organization. Also, why are you not concerned that he received his green card faster than almost everyone before?

Katherine Blair's avatar

No. You are wrong. The only free speech rights this miscreant has is while he is on campus. It is in the student visa.

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Orenv's avatar

If you are in a group that commits a crime, you are often guilty even if you didn't actually do it. Police use this fact to get people to rat out others in the group and then reduce the sentence of the rat. You should be careful who you associate with. Not all crimes are prosecuted. You may recall the Biden administration using "prosecutorial discretion". What comes around, goes around. In his status, he does not enjoy 1A speech. If he had been in the country long enough with a green card, he could apply to be a citizen, then he would have.

Everyone assumes there is equal justice. This is a fantasy as has been quite clearly shown in many cases. See the Governor of NY who said that of course nobody else needs to worry about getting prosecuted like Trump for "inflating" property values. I guess she said that to prevent a panic in NYC, or maybe she just needed some fast campaign cash.

Steve Fisher's avatar

Walter you are right, as usual. However, Khalil is clearly a "spook". Even his Wiki page shows his questionable background. My advice? Chose another "hero of free speech". This guy is dirty.

Chuck Campbell's avatar

Like the kkk in Skokie?

GB HeBe's avatar

After years of encouraging anti-American speech the pendulum was bound to swing far in the other direction. This is a far cry from rounding people up for, say, protesting at abortion clinics or voicing opinions at school board meetings.

ambrosia's avatar

I believe he spoke against a foreign Middle Eastern government…

Dierk Groeneman's avatar

Selfish me just wants to know if Trump's speech crackdown applies to citizens and immigrants alike

Prognosis is not good: if 1A applies to anyone on American soil then citizens are no different from immigrants.

Dean's avatar

Well, they/we have always said "we are all (at least of) immigrants.". I suppose we should have considered what that really meant taken literally, and legally.

PFC Billy's avatar

EVERYONE in USA has first amendment rights, US citizenship is not required.

The First Amendment protects the rights of marginalized people to have a voice and does not allow the government to prefer some speakers over others based on their identity.

Fuck the Trump administration's BS intimidation move carried out to harrass and try to silence similar voices his Zionist owners find inconvenient over constitutionally protected, non violent activity.

https://www.freedomforum.org/non-citizens-protected-first-amendment/#:~:text=The%20Constitution%20does%20not%20specify,Unauthorized%20immigrant

Miss.Moto.Mama's avatar

As a scientist, I need to tell you that we say, “science progresses one funeral at a time”. Please Bhattacharia clean house.

Miss.Moto.Mama's avatar

Note that Europe and Canada are now all run by bankers/BlackRock. Except Starmer who might as well be.

Miss.Moto.Mama's avatar

My guess is that the bankers are moving to take control out of fear of what Trump can do controlling the world’s reserve currency. My bet is that Trump is up against the meta-state because they came after the king, but didn’t kill him. Can he survive? I’m rooting for a stalemate in which we get to learn what is really going on. What if neither of the evils is the least bit lesser?

S Padival's avatar

Matt, Jeff Zients, not Ron Klain was Biden’s chief of staff during the dementia half of the Biden term. He has an interesting background, including acid washing his emails while at Facebook, Medicare fraud allegations and fixing healthcare.gov for Obama.. he sounds like Obama’s boy wonder and a ghost who nobody, including you, may have heard of 🤣..

Arianna's avatar

Serbia is pro-Russia. That’s where Russian elites send their sons to work if they are military age lol. This uprising is university students and springtime. See South Korea. I was an International HS teacher there for a year and had my first contact with pepper spray commuting to my apartment. It stings! No big deal. I was also in Germany around the time of Bader-Meinhof. Europe was interesting then. Now a collection of tiny Walt Disney tourist worlds without the fun rides. The biggest bore ever. Just returned from Florence and actually lost weight it’s so homogenized. I agree with the listeners - fk the EU.

Nonurbiz Ness's avatar

Perkins Coie had a SCIF in their DC office. It was uncovered during Special counsel John Durham investigation of Russia collusion

BAILEY BUILDING AND LOAN's avatar

Matt and Walter I worked for a defense contractor. When you leave the job you lose the security clearance. Granted I was a peon. However can't really understand why it would be any different for upper echelon folks.

PL's avatar

The purpose of the NY Times is to manufacture consensus.

Miss.Moto.Mama's avatar

I’d love to hear Steven Donziger’s views.

Paul West's avatar

ATW Livestream Tonight at 8 PM ET/7 PM CT

Yes, I know what time to tune in on the west coast.

Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

It’s funny that Central Time is listed if Pacific and Mountain are not. Just Eastern is all that’s needed. It’s not calculus…

Bently's avatar

Never mind if someone can issue pardons in Biden's name if he is absent or brain dead. Is it legitimate for an administration to carry on for four years when the president is mentally incompetent to serve? Doesn't the constitution and law specify an order of succession? Do unnamed, un-elected people have a right to make decisions in his name? Shouldn't there be a duty of those in the WH to invoke the appropriate article under the constitution to have the president removed when he is incompetent? It should have been done for Woodrow Wilson and Reagan.

Chuck Campbell's avatar

Given the shear volume of corruption, I find the need for prioritizing the convictions. That has to start with the 51 spooks who lied about the hunter laptop. If overturning pardons leads to convictions in the J6 “Hearings “, fair enough. But auto signature seems a little nuanced. Which I suspect is the point. “Forget about no tax on tips, UFOs, jfk etc. Look at this signature thing.” I hope it’s a road to somewhere. But it feels like a distraction.