Ronald Reagan: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."
Donald Trump: "I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."
Walt, I supported Trump, too, but he's gone off the reservation. Please don't be afraid to criticize his increasingly erratic actions. Come on in, the water's fine.
Oh, I never expected him to play by the book, but he's still miles less disastrous than Kammie would have been.
Not regretting my vote, only that we had no better choices. Hoping we will in 2028, I would love to help vote in President Paul. Now, there's a good choice right there.
You're criticizing Trump for enforcing federal immigration law, which the executive branch of government is responsible for according to the U.S. Constitution? Besides, this was one of his biggest campaign issues. I know some Reagan Republicans don't agree with the way he is going about enforcement. But how else would you do it, under cover of darkness?
I agree. The reaction has to match the original action. If hundreds of thousands of migrants were streaming across the border every month during Biden (we all saw the videos from the Texas border towns), the Trump reaction can’t be deporting people 1 or 2 at a time. When migrants were streaming in, it was an industrial scale operation involving numerous nonprofits, NGOs, cartels, US Government aircraft and foreign governments. Deportations will need to match that scale.
Hold on a dang minute! If I'm criticizing Trump on immigration, it's for getting weak-kneed about his promised "mass deportations." Curious why you beat me up over that. I guess because the news has been so much about ICE in MN.
My complaints are more about his string of Great Ideas of the Day. (Defense stocks must stop paying dividends. Bring a case against a Fed chair I don't like. Etc.) And how he morphed "no tax on SS" to yet another means-tested redistribution of wealth. And don't get me started on his crypto schemes...
I supported Trump's re-election. I didn't pledge undying fealty.
My apologies. I assumed, which is never good, that your comment was directed at immigration. The Federal Government was coming to "help" local government. It's funny because I agree with pretty much all of your criticism of Trump you just laid out. Thanks for your clarifying response.
Things got so screwed up during the OBiden administration (i.e., arguably Obama's third term) that drastic measures are really the only option.
On top of that, and again in no small way due to the imprudence of the OBiden administration in putatively starting the Ukraine conflict (i.e., by pushing for Ukraine admission into NATO, notably despite CIA Chief Burns' earlier warnings to Condoleezza Rice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Burns_(diplomat)#U.S._Foreign_Service), along with the damage done to the dollar as the reserve currency and the rise of BRICS, and increasing hegemony of the PRC/CCP, he's got a lot of issues to deal with...all at once.
The current domestic "strife" is completely astroturfed (i.e., in contrast to being "grassroots") and leverages all sorts of leftover tension from the COVID years (which I think really pushed a lot of people to the edge).
So I don't think Trump's off the reservation but is testing the boundaries thereof.
If he's successful -- and I for one hope he is -- it will be of historic importance.
The foreign policy gambits (e.g., the Caribbean, Greenland) represent tremendous possible upside. The situation in South America was allowed to disintegrate...purposefully, I think, and while there's clearly great risk, the possibility of success is tantalizing. I'll tell you, all the Venezuelans I know (a few) are not complaining about the recent action. It should be a rich, prosperous thriving country. THat would be great both for the Venezuelans and for the US.
I imagine this will largely be a joint effort with Activism Uncensored.
To that end, I'd like to see interviews with the "protesters" [sic: vandals + revelers] to find out just how much...they don't know!
The ongoing dynamic -- "No Kings" (Kings? What kings? You mean like forced vaccination kings?), Anti-ICE demonstrations (where were they during the Bush and Obama years?), Anti-Tesla demonstrations ("Oh, Elon's not working with Trump now? Never mind!) -- deserves continued analysis.
What do these' "protesters" [again, "sic"] want? What is their objective? What exactly are they protesting?
What they really want is to kill off the center and center-right, finally and forever. They see the invisible disintegration of education and the visible chaos on the street as the quickest route to permanent victory at the polls.
They are protesting the removal of heinous criminals. “ICE released a list this week detailing some of the most dangerous non-citizen criminals arrested during a major enforcement surge in Minnesota. The list includes individuals convicted of child rape, sexual assault of minors, sodomy, and multiple homicides, many of whom had final deportation orders dating back decades.”
Great point - but can those facts, which are clear improvements to safety that the majority of American citizens want, compete at all with the sense of euphoria and the virtue high to be gotten by getting out there and screaming and yelling with an angry mob? An opportunity to get great photos of yourself standing up to the ICE "Thugs" that you can rush home with and virtue signal to the world what a good person you are?
Did it strike anyone as the very blackest of comedy, in a way, for the Mayor to immediately denounce the event as murder, then condemn those who took the polar opposite point for rushing to judgment?
Free speech is a right. Obstruction of justice is a crime. The practice of civil disobedience comes with an acknowledgement that you may pay the price for committing a crime.
It is remarkable...and maybe even a little disappointing...how applicable the Underpants Gnomes (UG) are as a template or blueprint! For pretty much everything!
In particular, the UG are the prototype for much, possibly most, "protests".
1.) Throw soup on paintings and superglue one's hands to the wall.
I am trying to remain distant on this issue, but I am in Minnesota in a college town and these are hotbeds for protests.
To me, they seem almost schizophrenic. NO KINGS, CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, go away racists, the Palestinian and rainbow+ flags everywhere, MELT ICE and chants as annoying as incongruent as Dubtep.
One person just sat on a corner in a lawn chair with their "Resist" sign. I was like resist what? The wind?
Protests: I am old enough to remember Martin Luther King and all the people associated with that movement break down the old Jim Crow system. Part of it was done with boycotts. A wonderful thing!
Then we had the likes of Jesse Jackson, who raised the art of protest to extortion. Things have gone downhill ever since, but mostly within the limits of the First Amendment.
It’s no secret the Woke-Progressives want to dismantle the constitutional republic we currently have. The idea of sanctuary city is the first step in this direction, because it is basically a nullification of particular federal laws. They’d like to nullify the whole federal system in its current form, eventually.
It’s a way they can easily transition all the pro-Hamas protesters to the latest thing—stopping ICE— not that that would be a challenge. Both movements want the destruction of the West. Who on the Left (and the Woke Right like Tucker) doesn’t hate Israel/Jews/IDF and blame them for every problem on the planet?
@16:30m Glad your guest corrected to say "members of" the community, because the people he is seeing do not represent those of us who do not believe agitation is the answer to anything. Also just before that, he mentioned rioters communicating via Signal - local agitators also communicate openly on Facebook groups for local neighborhoods. When other residents raise concerns, the vitriol is so vicious that most give up on discussion.
I was just about to add something similar to your comment.
I lived in Minnesota for a number of years, returning to Chicago about twenty years ago.
I still have plenty of friends up there -- both in the cities and out in the suburbs.
Almost all (both black and white) are tired of the incessant protests.
Also, I too noticed Ford Fischer's apparent bias in the matter. I appreciate his work but the line about "the community coming together" is pure bs.
"Liberal" Minnesotans live to protest. There's no "community", it's a cottage industry.
To boot, as they correctly noted, the ICE actions are in an area close to the idiotically-named "George Floyd Square" (I mean, really, how weak-minded do you have to be to honor a career criminal and drug abuser whose own actions largely contributed to his demise).
In particular, it's one of the more economically depressed areas in Minneapolis. From what my friends tell me, it's pretty much the same as it was when I lived up there: lots of drug use and related activities...and it's probably a perfect place for illegal immigrants to find a place.
So those people who are coming out of their house (i.e., almost certainly rented) and "throwing things" may well be part of the problem!
I have to say I was taken aback a bit by Fischer's ostensible sympathy with the agitators and fake-@$$ protesters.
It's theater. Minnesota liberals live for this sort of nonsense. It's as real and as genuine as the most fake thing you can think of.
Walter. You just crossed a line. You’re lying. Why you’re lying is something you’ll deal with. Or not. The woman who was shot in the face was turning her wheel away from the cop and toward the road in order to leave.
Now…she should not have been there. That was a poor choice. And in the moment of panic she did bump the agent.
This doesn’t make you any less interesting to listen to Walter. Even entertaining. But as a “journalist” you have disqualified yourself where analyzing this present federal administration is concerned.
I mean…Matt is barely doing that job. He is (understandably in my view having reviewed my own thinking) presenting himself with a view to pleasing the majority of his current viewership/readership.
That’s okay. I don’t think he’s pretended any different.
Kirn’s motivation?
I think it’s fair to at least speculate he continues to be after the library of congress job. Or a reliable seat at the table on Fox News.
Again…fine.
But not terribly satisfying if we want some measure of objective hold-power-to-account reporting or commentary.
And John Patrick Daly… thanks for this post. ICE agent did NOT have to fire shots into the HEAD of the protester. Arms, shoulders, no need to kill the “ bitch” as he was heard saying.
I for one would think it would be really difficult to accurately pick a precise location to aim after being struck by a vehicle and falling down.
That being said, I wish the officer had not pulled the trigger, as legally/formally justified as it might have been.
But I can't stand these clown-@$$ agitators who, in all the years I've been around universities (including the U of Minnesota), couldn't give a sh!t less about the issue and are in the "game" for just that: cause trouble, scream, etc.
It's theater. Plain and simple.
But I sure wish that poor woman was still alive. As far as I can tell, she got sucked into the bs fake-@$$ "radical" [not] "progressive" [not] culture up in MN. Seems like Renee Good just wanted to be "part of the group" and her girlfriend ginned things up enough to get Good killed.
My honest take: Good panicked (while being egged on by her girlfriend), hit the gas, and the officer reacted. Legally but tragically.
One would ask what the point is of targeting ICE agent in this way. It's not like they are going to discourage people who need money from joining ICE. Why not protest the exaggerated use of force? These protests seem to miss the point. If the point of the protests is to resist excessive force and illegal profiling, pressure the Minneapolis legal system to do what the judge in Chicago did, which is require the local head of ICE to report to her every day and justify their use of force. If they don't like the deportation of people in the country illegally, they need to focus on changing the laws.
The available evidence suggests that the woman who was shot, Renee Nicole Good, did not directly hit the ICE officer with her vehicle. Video footage analyzed by multiple sources shows that the officer was slightly brushed by the slowly moving car but did not lose balance and was able to fire multiple shots.
The officer was seen holstering his weapon calmly afterward and showed no apparent injuries.
While Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem claimed the officer was "hit by the vehicle" and that it was an act of self-defense, other accounts, including from Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and Police Chief Brian O’Hara, dispute this narrative.
Frey stated that claims of self-defense were false, and O’Hara noted only the woman was injured.
Bystander videos and witness statements indicate the driver was attempting to flee rather than attack
Walter is saying she "centered" the wheels, but it's been observed that the front wheels were turned to the right. She was not intentionally aiming the car at the man.
Ronald Reagan: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."
Donald Trump: "I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."
Walt, I supported Trump, too, but he's gone off the reservation. Please don't be afraid to criticize his increasingly erratic actions. Come on in, the water's fine.
Oh, I never expected him to play by the book, but he's still miles less disastrous than Kammie would have been.
Not regretting my vote, only that we had no better choices. Hoping we will in 2028, I would love to help vote in President Paul. Now, there's a good choice right there.
You're criticizing Trump for enforcing federal immigration law, which the executive branch of government is responsible for according to the U.S. Constitution? Besides, this was one of his biggest campaign issues. I know some Reagan Republicans don't agree with the way he is going about enforcement. But how else would you do it, under cover of darkness?
I agree. The reaction has to match the original action. If hundreds of thousands of migrants were streaming across the border every month during Biden (we all saw the videos from the Texas border towns), the Trump reaction can’t be deporting people 1 or 2 at a time. When migrants were streaming in, it was an industrial scale operation involving numerous nonprofits, NGOs, cartels, US Government aircraft and foreign governments. Deportations will need to match that scale.
Hold on a dang minute! If I'm criticizing Trump on immigration, it's for getting weak-kneed about his promised "mass deportations." Curious why you beat me up over that. I guess because the news has been so much about ICE in MN.
My complaints are more about his string of Great Ideas of the Day. (Defense stocks must stop paying dividends. Bring a case against a Fed chair I don't like. Etc.) And how he morphed "no tax on SS" to yet another means-tested redistribution of wealth. And don't get me started on his crypto schemes...
I supported Trump's re-election. I didn't pledge undying fealty.
My apologies. I assumed, which is never good, that your comment was directed at immigration. The Federal Government was coming to "help" local government. It's funny because I agree with pretty much all of your criticism of Trump you just laid out. Thanks for your clarifying response.
I'm still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt.
Things got so screwed up during the OBiden administration (i.e., arguably Obama's third term) that drastic measures are really the only option.
On top of that, and again in no small way due to the imprudence of the OBiden administration in putatively starting the Ukraine conflict (i.e., by pushing for Ukraine admission into NATO, notably despite CIA Chief Burns' earlier warnings to Condoleezza Rice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Burns_(diplomat)#U.S._Foreign_Service), along with the damage done to the dollar as the reserve currency and the rise of BRICS, and increasing hegemony of the PRC/CCP, he's got a lot of issues to deal with...all at once.
The current domestic "strife" is completely astroturfed (i.e., in contrast to being "grassroots") and leverages all sorts of leftover tension from the COVID years (which I think really pushed a lot of people to the edge).
So I don't think Trump's off the reservation but is testing the boundaries thereof.
If he's successful -- and I for one hope he is -- it will be of historic importance.
The foreign policy gambits (e.g., the Caribbean, Greenland) represent tremendous possible upside. The situation in South America was allowed to disintegrate...purposefully, I think, and while there's clearly great risk, the possibility of success is tantalizing. I'll tell you, all the Venezuelans I know (a few) are not complaining about the recent action. It should be a rich, prosperous thriving country. THat would be great both for the Venezuelans and for the US.
So I'm still giving him time.
I didn’t vote for Trump for these reasons:
1. He pushes until something breaks or someone stops him.
2. When he fails, it’s always someone else’s fault.
That’s it. That’s the list.
We need term limits on all politicians, money out of politics, and accounting oversight on ALL departments.
There has to be a growing “middle” that can figure this out and end the Democrat/Republican stronghold on all politics, we are better than this.
What in the world are you guys going to talk about? Nothing really weird happened during the weekend.
I imagine this will largely be a joint effort with Activism Uncensored.
To that end, I'd like to see interviews with the "protesters" [sic: vandals + revelers] to find out just how much...they don't know!
The ongoing dynamic -- "No Kings" (Kings? What kings? You mean like forced vaccination kings?), Anti-ICE demonstrations (where were they during the Bush and Obama years?), Anti-Tesla demonstrations ("Oh, Elon's not working with Trump now? Never mind!) -- deserves continued analysis.
What do these' "protesters" [again, "sic"] want? What is their objective? What exactly are they protesting?
I don't know about the protesters, but the organizers and funders want chaos.
What they really want is to kill off the center and center-right, finally and forever. They see the invisible disintegration of education and the visible chaos on the street as the quickest route to permanent victory at the polls.
Oh, dear Heaven. I pray you're wrong, but you're almost certainly right. God deliver us!
And.... the Dems want to:
Win the midterms
Get lots of news coverage that enrage their base which will motivate them to make donations to their campaign coffers
To keep the illegal immigrants here so they can use them as a guaranteed voting block
Win the WH in 2028
They are protesting the removal of heinous criminals. “ICE released a list this week detailing some of the most dangerous non-citizen criminals arrested during a major enforcement surge in Minnesota. The list includes individuals convicted of child rape, sexual assault of minors, sodomy, and multiple homicides, many of whom had final deportation orders dating back decades.”
https://open.substack.com/pub/thejefferymead/p/morning-briefing-sunday-january-11?r=1o2l6&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2010101496034074739
Well, yes, assuming they're bothering to follow up and read.
Which is a big "if" with these people!
I don't think there's any "if" at all they won't. If they even _can_ read. "We don't need no stinking facts!"
Great point - but can those facts, which are clear improvements to safety that the majority of American citizens want, compete at all with the sense of euphoria and the virtue high to be gotten by getting out there and screaming and yelling with an angry mob? An opportunity to get great photos of yourself standing up to the ICE "Thugs" that you can rush home with and virtue signal to the world what a good person you are?
Did it strike anyone as the very blackest of comedy, in a way, for the Mayor to immediately denounce the event as murder, then condemn those who took the polar opposite point for rushing to judgment?
C'mon! You're being rational! Not allowed! :-)
Free speech is a right. Obstruction of justice is a crime. The practice of civil disobedience comes with an acknowledgement that you may pay the price for committing a crime.
Stay on the curb with your whistles and placards.
The scene at the hotel lobby with protestors reminds me of the Underpants Gnomes.
1. Take over hotel lobby.
2.
3. Take over the world and ICE withdraws.
Yes!!!
It is remarkable...and maybe even a little disappointing...how applicable the Underpants Gnomes (UG) are as a template or blueprint! For pretty much everything!
In particular, the UG are the prototype for much, possibly most, "protests".
1.) Throw soup on paintings and superglue one's hands to the wall.
2.) ?
3.) End fossil fuel extraction and usage.
I am trying to remain distant on this issue, but I am in Minnesota in a college town and these are hotbeds for protests.
To me, they seem almost schizophrenic. NO KINGS, CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL, go away racists, the Palestinian and rainbow+ flags everywhere, MELT ICE and chants as annoying as incongruent as Dubtep.
One person just sat on a corner in a lawn chair with their "Resist" sign. I was like resist what? The wind?
Just a big stupid temper tantrum.
Protests: I am old enough to remember Martin Luther King and all the people associated with that movement break down the old Jim Crow system. Part of it was done with boycotts. A wonderful thing!
Then we had the likes of Jesse Jackson, who raised the art of protest to extortion. Things have gone downhill ever since, but mostly within the limits of the First Amendment.
It’s no secret the Woke-Progressives want to dismantle the constitutional republic we currently have. The idea of sanctuary city is the first step in this direction, because it is basically a nullification of particular federal laws. They’d like to nullify the whole federal system in its current form, eventually.
Guys I am in luck! In my book collection is A Scanner Darkly!
I was hoping for VALIS also by PKD, but still, pleasesd.
What does the IDF have with this protest? Sincere question.
It’s a way they can easily transition all the pro-Hamas protesters to the latest thing—stopping ICE— not that that would be a challenge. Both movements want the destruction of the West. Who on the Left (and the Woke Right like Tucker) doesn’t hate Israel/Jews/IDF and blame them for every problem on the planet?
The people making noise at hotel are foolish idiots. LEO's have ear/hearing protection(foam earplugs) and probably sleep well, after laughing ARSS off
@16:30m Glad your guest corrected to say "members of" the community, because the people he is seeing do not represent those of us who do not believe agitation is the answer to anything. Also just before that, he mentioned rioters communicating via Signal - local agitators also communicate openly on Facebook groups for local neighborhoods. When other residents raise concerns, the vitriol is so vicious that most give up on discussion.
I was just about to add something similar to your comment.
I lived in Minnesota for a number of years, returning to Chicago about twenty years ago.
I still have plenty of friends up there -- both in the cities and out in the suburbs.
Almost all (both black and white) are tired of the incessant protests.
Also, I too noticed Ford Fischer's apparent bias in the matter. I appreciate his work but the line about "the community coming together" is pure bs.
"Liberal" Minnesotans live to protest. There's no "community", it's a cottage industry.
To boot, as they correctly noted, the ICE actions are in an area close to the idiotically-named "George Floyd Square" (I mean, really, how weak-minded do you have to be to honor a career criminal and drug abuser whose own actions largely contributed to his demise).
In particular, it's one of the more economically depressed areas in Minneapolis. From what my friends tell me, it's pretty much the same as it was when I lived up there: lots of drug use and related activities...and it's probably a perfect place for illegal immigrants to find a place.
So those people who are coming out of their house (i.e., almost certainly rented) and "throwing things" may well be part of the problem!
I have to say I was taken aback a bit by Fischer's ostensible sympathy with the agitators and fake-@$$ protesters.
It's theater. Minnesota liberals live for this sort of nonsense. It's as real and as genuine as the most fake thing you can think of.
Walter. You just crossed a line. You’re lying. Why you’re lying is something you’ll deal with. Or not. The woman who was shot in the face was turning her wheel away from the cop and toward the road in order to leave.
Now…she should not have been there. That was a poor choice. And in the moment of panic she did bump the agent.
This doesn’t make you any less interesting to listen to Walter. Even entertaining. But as a “journalist” you have disqualified yourself where analyzing this present federal administration is concerned.
I mean…Matt is barely doing that job. He is (understandably in my view having reviewed my own thinking) presenting himself with a view to pleasing the majority of his current viewership/readership.
That’s okay. I don’t think he’s pretended any different.
Kirn’s motivation?
I think it’s fair to at least speculate he continues to be after the library of congress job. Or a reliable seat at the table on Fox News.
Again…fine.
But not terribly satisfying if we want some measure of objective hold-power-to-account reporting or commentary.
And John Patrick Daly… thanks for this post. ICE agent did NOT have to fire shots into the HEAD of the protester. Arms, shoulders, no need to kill the “ bitch” as he was heard saying.
You must be an expert marksman.
I for one would think it would be really difficult to accurately pick a precise location to aim after being struck by a vehicle and falling down.
That being said, I wish the officer had not pulled the trigger, as legally/formally justified as it might have been.
But I can't stand these clown-@$$ agitators who, in all the years I've been around universities (including the U of Minnesota), couldn't give a sh!t less about the issue and are in the "game" for just that: cause trouble, scream, etc.
It's theater. Plain and simple.
But I sure wish that poor woman was still alive. As far as I can tell, she got sucked into the bs fake-@$$ "radical" [not] "progressive" [not] culture up in MN. Seems like Renee Good just wanted to be "part of the group" and her girlfriend ginned things up enough to get Good killed.
My honest take: Good panicked (while being egged on by her girlfriend), hit the gas, and the officer reacted. Legally but tragically.
One would ask what the point is of targeting ICE agent in this way. It's not like they are going to discourage people who need money from joining ICE. Why not protest the exaggerated use of force? These protests seem to miss the point. If the point of the protests is to resist excessive force and illegal profiling, pressure the Minneapolis legal system to do what the judge in Chicago did, which is require the local head of ICE to report to her every day and justify their use of force. If they don't like the deportation of people in the country illegally, they need to focus on changing the laws.
This is what AI says:
The available evidence suggests that the woman who was shot, Renee Nicole Good, did not directly hit the ICE officer with her vehicle. Video footage analyzed by multiple sources shows that the officer was slightly brushed by the slowly moving car but did not lose balance and was able to fire multiple shots.
The officer was seen holstering his weapon calmly afterward and showed no apparent injuries.
While Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem claimed the officer was "hit by the vehicle" and that it was an act of self-defense, other accounts, including from Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and Police Chief Brian O’Hara, dispute this narrative.
Frey stated that claims of self-defense were false, and O’Hara noted only the woman was injured.
Bystander videos and witness statements indicate the driver was attempting to flee rather than attack
Did you see the body-cam footage– didn't he fall down?
You don't move a car towards a LEO and not expect/sdeserve to be stopped by any means possible. She was an idiot and sadly, went to far.
This will be interesting. I'm delighted Mr. Fisher is joining - very interested to hear his thoughts and observations.
Walter is saying she "centered" the wheels, but it's been observed that the front wheels were turned to the right. She was not intentionally aiming the car at the man.
I love the show but can you fix the audio quality, Matt is usually at almost twice the volume of Walter.