I hope the next four years give you more and more opportunities to uncover the truth and present it fairly, regardless of whose ox gets gored. I'm a good bit farther to the right than you are, Matt, but I am genuinely grateful for your professional willingness to clearly delineate fact from opinion.
I have always been open about my own “Libertarian leanings” with my friends ( the ones who didn’t betray/disown me as result ), and they will probably never realize the kindred sense that I truly feel when I read Matt’s work and revel in every ATW episode.
Matt and Walter are the best public reflection of our society and I am very thankful for their bravery and commitment in defense of Civil Liberties.
100% KH's embracing Dick Cheney/ Liz Cheney was a line many Democrats could not cross. Did KH's team think we didn't remember the USAPATRIOT Act, the soldiers blown up by IEDs?, the yellowcake lies?
I agree, this time the truth of the 2020 election (assuming it’s available) needs to be exposed by Trump even if he worries it may be harmful to the country in some way. It is far more important that it never be allowed to happen again.
What states are those excess votes in? It doesn’t make sense to goose results nationwide. MI was about 150 K short (two party but we know third party got significant votes) GA is up 250K. IOW, the difference is worth investigating but now dispositive.
There were literally tons of paper-write-in ballots that states had to count in the middle of the night, last night. Some states still have not tabulated all of the mail-in ballots. Each state has a different way of doing it, according to their state laws. States’ Rights, and all. Some states counted mail-in ballots as they came in over the last couple weeks. Other states put mail-in ballots under armed guards and were counted only last night.
Everyone knows now that the polling was doctored and based off of vibes and wishful thinking instead of honest, in-depth socio-political analysis.
Also, and this point cannot be understated, I’ve been saying for 4 years at least- that when you start demonizing people for their political opinions, firing them, jumping them for wearing MAGA hats in public. Daughters and sons disowning their families (my case), being banned from social media, being censored, etc.
This is the fallout.
When people in a free society feel that it’s not free anymore, when they are censored and persecuted, they will speak in the only place it’s safe to at that point, and that place is the ballot box.
Any moron that paid attention through all of this and knows anything at all about human nature could have seen this coming like we did. Unfortunately for these stupid, fragile, brainwashed fuckwads, that’s not the case and I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER.
Sadly in other times and places these forces often imploded the whole culture.
We're still in the U.S.A. coasting on a political and economic architecture that lets these stresses ventilate. All that is so underappreciated and so overlooked -- especially by those in national media/politics who abuse it. (But then, per Twain, Mencken, Will Rogers, etc. etc. -- it's probly always been like this). Now it's our turn to see it first hand.
Realistically I know that being magnanimous is the key to repairing the social fabric that was figuratively and literally burned over the past 4 years. I want that. But today my friend, it’s SCHADENFREUDE overdose time.
Funny how that works isn’t it? The catalyst for change almost always occurs right at the brink- or in some cases, too late to save anyone. We got lucky. Lucky we had Taibbi, Kirn, Musk, Rubin, Megan Kelly, Shellenberger, JD Vance, Rogan, et al. We should learn from this, and hopefully we will.
So far I've seen them blame Kamala's loss on Joe Biden, Kamala's vagina, man hate for Kamala's vagina, Latinos, American racism, the working class is STOOPID, Mitch McConnell, and I'm sure I've forgotten a few. So, good news, self reflection will not be on the DNC/MSM agenda anytime soon.
Kudos to Matt & Walter for pointing out the voting number disparity between 2020 & 2024.
This was about America. Just ignore them, deprive them of oxygen. I don't even care enough about them to gloat. If people don't respond to their venom, their need for fuel and attention, they'll fade into the ether. I have never seen an effort like this, unprincipled, lying, to influence an election. They were told to go pound sand.
As Walter said water only changes state at two temperatures, everything else is just “change” so now that they’ll boil over maybe they’ll just go away and stop. Wishful for sure, but perhaps.
You are right of course but can the racist, fascist, Nazi, garbage voter narrative easily be forgiven or forgotten? Takes time even when ignoring the relentless gaslighting..
The apotheosis of Matt's "Hate, Inc." in all seriousness, it seems to have brought on an epidemic of mental illness. That the voters have stepped over them, the networks, cable, the Times, given them the middle finger salute this decisively and broadly is a magical development. It's an earthquake.
Atonement isn't in their make-up. They are delusional. They are "fighting" for "freedom" in the United States of America, freedom central for the world. Imagine them in Communist China. While of course, censoring your freedom of speech, preventing admission to college or ability to get a job based on immutable characteristics, forcing zoning in your neighborhood, taking your "unrealized wealth" and giving it to someone more deserving. That kind of "freedom." These are human, heat seeking missiles for grievance. They will double-down. This thing needs to be starved. Alternative media is overtaking them.
This was a really hard left turn that the American public stopped. This time. And we will probably need to again.
Lets hope one of the first orders of business of the new congress is passing a voter ID/voting integrity law. Enough is enough of the stupid shenanigans. More than 80% of Americans support Voter ID .
Something needs to be done about student voters - there is no cross checking across state lines. A student can vote their home address (out of state) and their student address in state.
Hahaha. Right? I live right outside of Richmond Va and when they asked me for my ID I had to stop myself from saying “wait, how are black people supposed to vote then?? Even though 10 years ago, we all agreed that treating a racial demographic as a monolith is racist, times have changed. FASCIST!!!” Think of how nonsensical all the shit that Democrats have been saying for years is. I mean literally just about all of it.
As another commenter noted the most remarkable aspect of the 2024 election is that despite there being no COVID there was no gigantic surge (18% more for Trump, 20% more for Biden) in "votes" as in 2020 during COVID, turnout went back to the usual level. I guess both sides (and the Ds in particular) were "persuaded" to do less obvious ballot box stuffing.
In 2020 the biggest surges were in already R or D areas, and they were pointless because most states allocate electoral college delegation as "winner takes all", so increasing the margin of victory has no effect (for example in 2020 there was a massive D surge in California that would have gone D regardless).
What matters is stuffing the ballot boxes in the swing/contested areas so perhaps the "vote adjusters" just focused on those locations.
I went to a an election night party in Riverside county, Ca last night. About 100 ppl there. 3 white 90+ latinos. Id bet only 2 ppl there voted harris.
Hopefully this is a big and lasting win for free speech, debate, and true adherence to the rule of law. We have big problems as nation- Trump, Vance, and crew have won a tough job ahead. I don't expect the next couple of years will be easy. I am so glad to have Matt, Walter, and all of you to share with, learn from, and get some good laughs (and literature as well!). Thanks much!
Trump, with a mandate, will have to start to deliver on a restoration of small town/middle/rural/working class America. Deportations will not be enough. The majority of Congressional Republicans, not to mention Democrats, are still "establishmentarians" that favor globalization, finance-centric corporatism and a consumption based economy. It will be interesting to see who becomes Senate Majority Leader, for instance.
As Matt has pointed out, the divide in the country is boiling down to a simple, classic clash between the classes. Very tenuous times still ahead.
By the way, does anyone have the travel itinerary for Bruce Springsteen & his Flee Street Band?
I hear that Boeing offers some amazing planes that would be perfect for a flying tour bus.
From what I understand, Bono, DeNiro & Tom Hanks have nailed the female back-up singer slots & Cher will take over the Clarence Clemons vacancy. Bruce is in a running battle with Rob Reiner for the leader slot. Reiner, who reportedly does a killer impression of Bruce as a fat old Jewish guy, is working hard so don't be surprised if there is a Biden style coup & it becomes Rob Reiner & His Flee Street Band.
He's no longer "The Boss" (a knickname he always disliked, but that's another story).
He's the Dem's errand boy. And it's pathetic.
His early lyrics and songs were genius, in my view. He understood the rage and pain of people kicked in the gut and in the face. So sad to see him now wearing Orwell's proverbial boot stomping on a face forever.
I don't disagree. Bruce is a fine songwriter & if I ever want advice on songwriting I'll seek him out.
But his songwriting success doesn't mean I should give a shit about his political advice.
I feel the same way about Kid Rock.
And then when Brucie delivers some cringe laden threat to leave the country over a presidential election the only possible response a sane person could come up with is "Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya Brucie boy! Here's your hat, here's your coat, what's your hurry."
The amount of narcissism floating around, pandemic-like, inside Brucie's blood stream must be Godzilla sized.
I remember asking my dad about who he voted for. I got an education in the 2 things you never ask a man. 1. How much does he makes & 2. Who did he vote for.
Now it's like a virtue signal as empty as the posted photos of vaccine cards & band aids.
I watched Mark Ruff...Ruff...Ruffalo give a pre-election anti-Trump speech where everything the guy said had been debunked numerous times.
It should be obvious that entertainment talent doesn't equate with intellectual rigor.
The Boss was pushing sugar coated sugar as if it was filet mignon.
I hope the next four years give you more and more opportunities to uncover the truth and present it fairly, regardless of whose ox gets gored. I'm a good bit farther to the right than you are, Matt, but I am genuinely grateful for your professional willingness to clearly delineate fact from opinion.
I have always been open about my own “Libertarian leanings” with my friends ( the ones who didn’t betray/disown me as result ), and they will probably never realize the kindred sense that I truly feel when I read Matt’s work and revel in every ATW episode.
Matt and Walter are the best public reflection of our society and I am very thankful for their bravery and commitment in defense of Civil Liberties.
Truly priceless.
Goddamn right. Well said Kevin!
Thank you Jake. I really mean it, Matt is a very special guy, a both he and Walter seem humble and decent.
His bless my friend
I really hope some important information gets declassified.
Hear hear!!
100% KH's embracing Dick Cheney/ Liz Cheney was a line many Democrats could not cross. Did KH's team think we didn't remember the USAPATRIOT Act, the soldiers blown up by IEDs?, the yellowcake lies?
Disgraced Propagandist
@DisgracedProp
2004 Kerry - 59M
2008 Obama - 69.5M
2012 Obama - 65.9M
2016 Clinton - 65.9M
2020 Biden - 81.3M
2024 Harris - 66.4M
Somebody needs to go to jail for this.
One of these things is not like the other.
Which one is that and why?
Ummm...the 81 Million "votes" Biden supposedly got in the most transparent and fair election ever...duh!
Key word in your reply...."supposedly" spot on!
And yet according to legacy media, Trump's 2020 concerns were "without evidence".
They were very confident in Kamala. Without evidence 🤣🤣🤣
Like one of the guys just said, Dems got high on their own supply.
That’s probably the coolest way to say it 😂
And now I hear that Kamala supporters are demanding that THIS election be investigated for cheating, so they can find those missing votes.
I sincerely hope they do so, because I know they were cheating in this election, as well. Trump's margin was probably even larger than it seems.
We knew it then. A LOT of folks need to go to jail for that
Nothing to see here?
I agree, this time the truth of the 2020 election (assuming it’s available) needs to be exposed by Trump even if he worries it may be harmful to the country in some way. It is far more important that it never be allowed to happen again.
What states are those excess votes in? It doesn’t make sense to goose results nationwide. MI was about 150 K short (two party but we know third party got significant votes) GA is up 250K. IOW, the difference is worth investigating but now dispositive.
There were literally tons of paper-write-in ballots that states had to count in the middle of the night, last night. Some states still have not tabulated all of the mail-in ballots. Each state has a different way of doing it, according to their state laws. States’ Rights, and all. Some states counted mail-in ballots as they came in over the last couple weeks. Other states put mail-in ballots under armed guards and were counted only last night.
Everyone knows now that the polling was doctored and based off of vibes and wishful thinking instead of honest, in-depth socio-political analysis.
Also, and this point cannot be understated, I’ve been saying for 4 years at least- that when you start demonizing people for their political opinions, firing them, jumping them for wearing MAGA hats in public. Daughters and sons disowning their families (my case), being banned from social media, being censored, etc.
This is the fallout.
When people in a free society feel that it’s not free anymore, when they are censored and persecuted, they will speak in the only place it’s safe to at that point, and that place is the ballot box.
Any moron that paid attention through all of this and knows anything at all about human nature could have seen this coming like we did. Unfortunately for these stupid, fragile, brainwashed fuckwads, that’s not the case and I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER.
REAP IT MOTHERFUCKERS.
Sadly in other times and places these forces often imploded the whole culture.
We're still in the U.S.A. coasting on a political and economic architecture that lets these stresses ventilate. All that is so underappreciated and so overlooked -- especially by those in national media/politics who abuse it. (But then, per Twain, Mencken, Will Rogers, etc. etc. -- it's probly always been like this). Now it's our turn to see it first hand.
Realistically I know that being magnanimous is the key to repairing the social fabric that was figuratively and literally burned over the past 4 years. I want that. But today my friend, it’s SCHADENFREUDE overdose time.
No argument here. I feel it too, just like you!
What Jake said!!! 100%
Of course we knew the polls were doctored!
They were hoping to steal this one, too, but the RNC was actually cognizant and pushing back, instead of rolling over like they did in 2020.
Funny how that works isn’t it? The catalyst for change almost always occurs right at the brink- or in some cases, too late to save anyone. We got lucky. Lucky we had Taibbi, Kirn, Musk, Rubin, Megan Kelly, Shellenberger, JD Vance, Rogan, et al. We should learn from this, and hopefully we will.
So far I've seen them blame Kamala's loss on Joe Biden, Kamala's vagina, man hate for Kamala's vagina, Latinos, American racism, the working class is STOOPID, Mitch McConnell, and I'm sure I've forgotten a few. So, good news, self reflection will not be on the DNC/MSM agenda anytime soon.
Kudos to Matt & Walter for pointing out the voting number disparity between 2020 & 2024.
Don't forget RUSSIA!
Oh a lot of people were blaming Merrick Garland this morning, too.
Ridiculous.
My money is on Nixon.
He never once supported Kamala.
Oh there’s plenty to blame on that piece of shit too. Like weaponizing the DOJ against political opponents.
The Story about Harris and Willie Brown makes me think that her gender also played a role in her *ascent*.
For real though, her vagina in a very Kafka way probably is to blame for a lot of this. 😂
This was about America. Just ignore them, deprive them of oxygen. I don't even care enough about them to gloat. If people don't respond to their venom, their need for fuel and attention, they'll fade into the ether. I have never seen an effort like this, unprincipled, lying, to influence an election. They were told to go pound sand.
I ignore them. They have to try very hard to push my buttons.
As Walter said water only changes state at two temperatures, everything else is just “change” so now that they’ll boil over maybe they’ll just go away and stop. Wishful for sure, but perhaps.
You are right of course but can the racist, fascist, Nazi, garbage voter narrative easily be forgiven or forgotten? Takes time even when ignoring the relentless gaslighting..
The apotheosis of Matt's "Hate, Inc." in all seriousness, it seems to have brought on an epidemic of mental illness. That the voters have stepped over them, the networks, cable, the Times, given them the middle finger salute this decisively and broadly is a magical development. It's an earthquake.
I agree. But the harm that has been done to the American people needs to be atoned for. Justice must be served lest this happen again.
Atonement isn't in their make-up. They are delusional. They are "fighting" for "freedom" in the United States of America, freedom central for the world. Imagine them in Communist China. While of course, censoring your freedom of speech, preventing admission to college or ability to get a job based on immutable characteristics, forcing zoning in your neighborhood, taking your "unrealized wealth" and giving it to someone more deserving. That kind of "freedom." These are human, heat seeking missiles for grievance. They will double-down. This thing needs to be starved. Alternative media is overtaking them.
This was a really hard left turn that the American public stopped. This time. And we will probably need to again.
I really appreciate what Walter's home state of Montana did yesterday !
It was NEVER a tight race. In fact, I'm sure Trump won by a wider margin if you factor out the dem ballot box shenanigans.
Lets hope one of the first orders of business of the new congress is passing a voter ID/voting integrity law. Enough is enough of the stupid shenanigans. More than 80% of Americans support Voter ID .
Something needs to be done about student voters - there is no cross checking across state lines. A student can vote their home address (out of state) and their student address in state.
Imagine paper ballots and required ID.
This would have broken Reagan's record.
Hahaha. Right? I live right outside of Richmond Va and when they asked me for my ID I had to stop myself from saying “wait, how are black people supposed to vote then?? Even though 10 years ago, we all agreed that treating a racial demographic as a monolith is racist, times have changed. FASCIST!!!” Think of how nonsensical all the shit that Democrats have been saying for years is. I mean literally just about all of it.
And hand counting.
As another commenter noted the most remarkable aspect of the 2024 election is that despite there being no COVID there was no gigantic surge (18% more for Trump, 20% more for Biden) in "votes" as in 2020 during COVID, turnout went back to the usual level. I guess both sides (and the Ds in particular) were "persuaded" to do less obvious ballot box stuffing.
Or they both got good at it.
If they both got good at it then the total votes from this election should have gone up not down when compared to 2020.
In 2020 the biggest surges were in already R or D areas, and they were pointless because most states allocate electoral college delegation as "winner takes all", so increasing the margin of victory has no effect (for example in 2020 there was a massive D surge in California that would have gone D regardless).
What matters is stuffing the ballot boxes in the swing/contested areas so perhaps the "vote adjusters" just focused on those locations.
A few things:
1. If you're gonna cheat, then cheat were it is easiest to do so without consequences.
2. Artificially inflating the popular vote still serves a purpose even if it doesn't have any effect on the outcome of the election.
3. It makes sense to test out operations in a safe place.
I went to a an election night party in Riverside county, Ca last night. About 100 ppl there. 3 white 90+ latinos. Id bet only 2 ppl there voted harris.
Yep. Well said. Good data point.
And that's only going to build from here.
Hopefully this is a big and lasting win for free speech, debate, and true adherence to the rule of law. We have big problems as nation- Trump, Vance, and crew have won a tough job ahead. I don't expect the next couple of years will be easy. I am so glad to have Matt, Walter, and all of you to share with, learn from, and get some good laughs (and literature as well!). Thanks much!
No, the next few years will not be easy.
Trump, with a mandate, will have to start to deliver on a restoration of small town/middle/rural/working class America. Deportations will not be enough. The majority of Congressional Republicans, not to mention Democrats, are still "establishmentarians" that favor globalization, finance-centric corporatism and a consumption based economy. It will be interesting to see who becomes Senate Majority Leader, for instance.
As Matt has pointed out, the divide in the country is boiling down to a simple, classic clash between the classes. Very tenuous times still ahead.
Right you are. 17 more House seats would help though.
By the way, does anyone have the travel itinerary for Bruce Springsteen & his Flee Street Band?
I hear that Boeing offers some amazing planes that would be perfect for a flying tour bus.
From what I understand, Bono, DeNiro & Tom Hanks have nailed the female back-up singer slots & Cher will take over the Clarence Clemons vacancy. Bruce is in a running battle with Rob Reiner for the leader slot. Reiner, who reportedly does a killer impression of Bruce as a fat old Jewish guy, is working hard so don't be surprised if there is a Biden style coup & it becomes Rob Reiner & His Flee Street Band.
He's no longer "The Boss" (a knickname he always disliked, but that's another story).
He's the Dem's errand boy. And it's pathetic.
His early lyrics and songs were genius, in my view. He understood the rage and pain of people kicked in the gut and in the face. So sad to see him now wearing Orwell's proverbial boot stomping on a face forever.
I don't disagree. Bruce is a fine songwriter & if I ever want advice on songwriting I'll seek him out.
But his songwriting success doesn't mean I should give a shit about his political advice.
I feel the same way about Kid Rock.
And then when Brucie delivers some cringe laden threat to leave the country over a presidential election the only possible response a sane person could come up with is "Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya Brucie boy! Here's your hat, here's your coat, what's your hurry."
The amount of narcissism floating around, pandemic-like, inside Brucie's blood stream must be Godzilla sized.
I remember asking my dad about who he voted for. I got an education in the 2 things you never ask a man. 1. How much does he makes & 2. Who did he vote for.
Now it's like a virtue signal as empty as the posted photos of vaccine cards & band aids.
I watched Mark Ruff...Ruff...Ruffalo give a pre-election anti-Trump speech where everything the guy said had been debunked numerous times.
It should be obvious that entertainment talent doesn't equate with intellectual rigor.
The Boss was pushing sugar coated sugar as if it was filet mignon.
Fuck him.
I agree!
Cheap flights to that space resort available on Boeings website.
🤣🤣😎
Rassmussen was right. They are not crap. The only polling firm to predict this outcome
Yep, some respect for Rasmussen over the "gold standard" polls.
Gonna be some epic concession speeches this year! Who goes first? Biden? Harris? Obama?
Biden, because he forgot he’s not running.
It’ll be very poignant, because he’s also forgotten who he’s supposed to hate. And his middle name.
I think they skittered under the baseboards this morning.
Awesome! I missed you guys last night so can’t wait to listen.
Thank goodness for Citizen Journalists. The New NEWS we can trust.