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jbibiza's avatar

I live in Spain so live comments are difficult. Would love to hear your opinions on the "Hostage Videos" of Patel and Bongino with regard to the Epstein "suicide". Two supposed tough guys caving instantly to what must be lethal pressure.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

Ha Ha Ha! They do look like hostages! It started to become crushingly obvious during the pandemic- all across the western world, the figures we are being asked to trust, whose words we are being asked to believe, are themselves being threatened. You can see the fear in their eyes.

And the inescapable questions that keep mutiplying-

"By whom? By what, exactly?", will never go away until the answers become common knowledge.

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Running Burning Man's avatar

But what will satisfy you? I saw Patel and Bongino vids. I have no idea whether they were telling what they believed to be true or were coerced. Not sure anyone can discern anything from those videos regarding "coercion".

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BookWench's avatar

All you have to do is watch videos of their previous remarks on both Epstein and Thomas Crooks, to realize that something profoundly disturbing has taken place here. Coercion is suspected precisely because of their emphatic statements made previously. It's only a matter of time until they issue another hostage video endorsing the lone gunman theory on JFK.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

I'm not sure either. After some years of introspection into how my own mind operates, I can confidently assert that NOTHING will satisfy me. Every answered question generates more questions. So, as far as I can see, inquiry is a process that goes on and on until one is declared brain-dead.

That doesn't mean that I won't lose interest in this particular subject and move on to another- the Epstein questions are interesting enough to grab my attention, but there are limits! I am old enough to know that any subject with a salacious angle is going to be used to generate clicks and ad revenue. I'm an old Carny. I'm willing to be a sucker only as long as I feel like it.

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norica's avatar

Watch last night's Viva and Barnes!

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Running Burning Man's avatar

I tried listening. They sound fairly whacked. Couldn't find the relevant discussion time though I did hear one of them refer to bongino as Ban Donging. No fan of Bongino, but, seriously?

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BookWench's avatar

That was truly chilling.

Somebody probably got to them, with some sort of threat to their loved ones and/or themselves.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

I ask myself why no-one (so far) has come forward to publicly say, "I've been threatened".

There is a full range of personality traits operating among our species. There are some personalities who do not scare easily, and who react aggressively when threatened.

You can scare all of the people some of the time, and you can scare some of the people all of the time, but you can't scare all of the people all of the time.

I'm still waiting for the person who will turn over the table when threatened.

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