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B Greene's avatar

None of the people talking would even send the "poors" of their nations to fight directly since any NATO "boots on the ground" would almost instantly escalate the conflict to essentially WW3 including a likely Iranian direct strike on Israel and storming of Taiwan by China (something which the US might not even be able to recognize as illegal since we don't technically recognize Tawain as politically separate from in mainland).

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Winston Wins's avatar

Your opening sentence certainly would describe rational thinking. Unfortunately, we are not talking about rational people. Those behind the politicians, the billionaires, enterprise, big business, intel agencies looking forward to job security, these are all people used to getting what they want. They know its easier to sell war if they dnt use their own. But it's certainly not do to any kindness or sentimentality. These idiots like Anthony Blinken, and unfortunately he was only one of a type, will tell the elites whatever to keep the grift going and to keep their vision of controling the vast resources of Eurasia alive. This self perpetuating loop is capable of anything.

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B Greene's avatar

None of the elected officials in Europe or North America would survive the next vote if they even floated the possibility of sending their own (or any other NATO) troops into Ukraine to fight Russia; even acknowledging that such a move would be necessary for any possibility of achieving the goals they're laying out is something which not even Joe Biden at his most addled (and he was pretty addled in his prime, if you find the footage of him berating reporters in the 1980s) was capable of committing the gaffe of admitting it openly.

In the most extreme cases, there are a small number of individuals in the US who are willing to donate $hundreds, or maybe even $thousands (if they're very affluent) toward pro-Ukrainian causes, but 95-98% of those who "back Ukraine" in the west have already hit their limit by changing the flag on their social media profie photo, or maybe even wearing a ribbon (are they still doing the $2 rubber bracelets?) on the rare occasion they're feeling like going out and risking death by covid. They're no more willing to "grab a rifle and stand a post" than Zalensky or Macron.

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