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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Thanks for sharing this footage. Fags for Hamas is chickens for KFC. Worth noting that no one was arrested for defacing statues right by the White House, but teens are being charged with felonies for putting skid marks on a rainbow crosswalk mural. This is what anarcho-tyranny under the new state religion looks like.

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The Biz's avatar

There is no punishment for RightThink. Why would there be? 😉

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Sarcasm or witless stupidity?

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Ellen Evans's avatar

The winking "emoji" would indicate the former. There aren't very many witless stupids on Racket News' comment boards, thank the Lord. A few, of course, but I fear that's unavoidable. And most of those, alas, are of my sex.

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Kate Cahill's avatar

I call it "school-marmism"! Same people who brought us prohibition!

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Tom Sparks's avatar

I think they are the same people who would have been the stereotypical religious scolds of old. Now that they have rejected traditional religion, CSJ Theology is their religion. Like 80% of Americans used to be religious. Now it's like 30%. That 50% didn't become rational humanists. They became leftist SJWs. They need a religion; and found this one.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Nanny-statism - "go and see what Baby is doing and tell him he mustn't."

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Dr. K's avatar

Sadly, Ellen, you are correct. AWFUL is an amazingly cogent acronym.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Sadly, I agree, Ellen. There are days I’d repeal the 19th Amendment.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Sadly, some days I'd be with you. But then, I trust myself with the vote more than I trust many of both sexes.

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MDM 2.0's avatar

Hater

I've been told (more than once) that gender/sex is a patriarchal/white supremacist construct

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Anti-Hip's avatar

... which the Woke attempt to define and communicate by using the (oddly universal) "patriarchal" constructs of language and logic.

But then if you don't "get it", that is, get "the truth" (by osmosis?), they'll blame their definition and communication failures on the inherent inferiority of "patriarchal" constructs.

Hope that helps.

"I'm feelin' it! You feelin it?!" - Steve Martin, c. 1970s

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NotUBabeItsMe's avatar

😮😆😆

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Wake me when two people with testicles and penises, or two people with vulvas and wombs, can produce offspring a deux.

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MDM 2.0's avatar

Hater

“Follow The Science™️”

(Just kidding)

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Marilyn F's avatar

Seems like the stupids come out when the issue is Palestine.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Winking emoji, ah yes the cyber shorthand.

Are you sure?

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Zionists worse than Hamas??? LOL, tell that to the Palestinians living free in Israel, or to any homosexuals living in the closet in Gaza, or any Muslim women in Gaza that is not comfortable in a burka or similar Muslim female covering.

You just go further and further down the rabbit hole.

Have a good day.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Yes, living free as third class citizens, mLOL. Most of the world is not animated by queer issues, they want fairness and freedom. Maybe ask those Christians murdered by the IDF and zealot settlers how they feel?

You keep trying to justify genocide with issues that are less important so, who's going down a rabbit hole while dodging the truth.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

You keep using that word genocide, I don’t think you know what it means. And I certainly don’t think there is genocide going on there on either side: On the part of Hamas not because they don’t have genocide in their hearts (as they definitely do) but because they are incompetent, corrupt and weak. On the Israeli side, the figures speak for themselves: the population of Gaza is growing (and no one seriously accuses Jews or Israelis of being incompetent), rather the IDF takes extraordinary measures to minimize civilian casualties consistent with accomplishing their objectives, whereas Hamas strategicly and tactically plans its actions to maximize civilian casualties.

It is apparent to me that we will never agree on this, and I have other fish to fry. Have a good evening.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Well some are and some aren't 3rd class citizens, be very careful and specific here you have lied often enough (like constantly), that I can’t accept any assertion of yours without documentation. Some can vote, all can have jobs, some can run for elective office. It’s complicated, isn’t it; kinda like the voting rights and ability of Southern whites after the US Civil War, ex slaves were enfranchised, officers and officials of the Confederacy couldn’t, and for similar reasons: concerns about loyalty. Similar to Northern Ireland, back in the ‘Troubles’.

All in all, while less than ideal, having just reviewed this on the less than authoritative Wikipedia I would say the Arab/Palestinian Israelis have it better than the Gazan’s and better than the non-elite in many, if not most Arab countries. This seems to be born out by how they self identify,as more are identifying as Arab Israelis than several years ago, according to the left leaning Wikipedia; kinda like what’s happening in the US with blacks & Hispanics moving away from the Democrats.

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NotUBabeItsMe's avatar

Troubles are still simmering. Immigration of third world useless mouths don't sit well with many a working class with iRa roots in their blood. Just takes a spark.

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Drew's avatar

Projection?

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Question.

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The Biz's avatar

Sarcasm. I keep the witless stupidity for other topics I’m less intimately familiar with.

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Hollis Brown's avatar

I’m sad to say that Hamas is fully winning the Information War.

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TeeJae's avatar

I would argue it's actually the Palestine supporters, who've been protesting the zionist leadership of Israel since the 1948 Nakba.

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Hollis Brown's avatar

I’m talking about the guerrilla info war that Hamas began on October 7th, also known as asymmetrical warfare.

since Hamas can’t win against the militarily superior forces of the IDF, the attacks, murders and kidnappings of the 7th were designed specifically to get Israel to massively react and to destroy Gaza in front of the whole world. thereby drawing allies both old and new to support Hamas and condemn Israel. as you can see by the video above, when you have “fags for Hamas” in front of the WH, the strategy is working quite well.

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Anti-Hip's avatar

"I’m talking about the guerrilla info war that Hamas began on October 7th, also known as asymmetrical warfare."

Yeah, man! They're not supposed to do that! That's not fair!! In the words of George Carlin, "That's OUR fuckin' job!!"

"the attacks, murders and kidnappings of the 7th were designed specifically to get Israel to massively react and to destroy Gaza in front of the whole world"

Yeah, man! But Israel is much smarter than Hamas, so -- thus and therefore -- it logically follows that Israel did *not* massively react and did *not* destroy Gaza to play into Hamas' hands. No matter *what* your lyin' eyes tell you. Are you with me?

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Hollis Brown's avatar

I never said anything was fair. I never said Israel was much smarter.

yer making assumptions and putting words in my mouth.

I’m just describing Hamas’ strategy…let me ask you then, what was Hamas’ strategy on the 7th if it wasn’t asymmetrical warfare? did they think by killing and raping over a thousand innocent Jews that the whole state of Israel would just pack up and move away? do you think that Hamas was surprised by Israel’s reaction? that would make them pretty dumb, no..?

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TeeJae's avatar

I've read several historians and geopolitical experts conclude that Hamas's objective was to take as many hostages as possible, with which they could negotiate the release of Palestinians being detained by Israel. That they'd be met with resistance from, and have to kill, members of the IOF was expected. However, NOWHERE in their plan did they intend to injure or kill civilians. What took place at the festival was committed by Gazan civilian extremists who breached the openings in the border wall following the Hamas fighters. The Israeli civilians killed in the various kibbutzim were sadly victims of crossfire between IOF forces and Hamas, NOT intended targets. And the alleged "rapes" have NEVER been proven, as the "evidence" has only been hearsay and/or circumstantial.

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Orenv's avatar

While the bodies of their people pile up for their photo ops.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

No one was arrested. Of course! Forget the vandalism of public monuments, and BTW no harm to some poor public employee in a Smokey the Bear hat that gets stuff thrown at him, and of course --- no one is arrested.

St. Louis burned down after Michael Brown --- no one arrested.

2020 George Floyd "peaceful protests' --- no one arrested.

Hamas cosplay across the US of A? Even if property damaged or people detained by these jerks? No one arrested.

But tonight I read reporting that a 75 year-old woman is being sent to prison for two years for violation of The Face Act? A pro-life protestor? Don't know the details; must have been really bad. A threat to D E M O C R A C Y.

Hopefully even Democrats are finally getting fed up or at least politically worried about this crap.

But don't hold your breath. This is the ground-laying for what comes in the next several months.

The "troops" are organized and mobilized. Their scenario One: Trump voters will never accept that he lost, so we must be ready to suppress dissent. Their scenario Two: Trump did not win, and we must be ready to resist (2016 all over again).

Letting this anarchy go on is destroying the nation. Isn't anybody else tired of people just "protesting" 24/7? How about getting rid of tax exemptions for whoever is funding this bs?

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I would like this comment twice if I could

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catfish rushdie's avatar

I would say that Christo is probably the culprit behind all this, but he's been dead for six years. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that he faked his own death.

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Orenv's avatar

Now you are onto something.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Thanks muchly for the giggle. I needed it.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

Catfish is all about the giggles. Check out my Substack, if you haven't already looked. It's still free to subscribe, and I need all the friends I can get!

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Patrick's avatar

Shameless hypocrisy. Rinse. Repeat. 🔁

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Sorel McRae's avatar

When the state religion promotes defunding Israel (Ukraine, Taiwan, etc.) and other foreign wars, I'll take communion.

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feldspar's avatar

I'd say fewer teens on the streets in hot rods and more teens hangin' around the White House is damn good police work.

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Donna Quixote's avatar

Where there is chronic inflammation in the body, due to disease and lifestyle, the inflammation will grow until it is countered or, over time more diseases come forth, and if unchecked the body grows sicker, limps along, with drugs some of which cause more inflammation - until the body dies

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MG's avatar

Such as?

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MG's avatar

No, such as who are these student protestors beaten and jailed for no actual crimes?

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MG's avatar

Where's the part about students being beaten?

Where they ordered to disperse? Were they told if they disrupted and occupied buildings they would be arrested?

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This guy is a total clown, you should ignore him. Parasites like this that have nothing to contribute but captured right-leaning clickbait word salad. Commenters like this deeply degrade Substack quality. One has to dig very far into the comments to get into anything of substance.

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Tom Bartel's avatar

The “authoritarian things” are all originating from the current administration, which is progressive/leftist. The progressives have been pro-censorship, anti-liberty and anti-free expression. Can’t see how they were duped. Taibbi and Shellenberger have stayed consistent on these essential rights. The left has abandoned free speech. Who has been duped?

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JennyStokes's avatar

"Current administration is progressive leftist"......give me a break.

You wouldn't know left from right in the US!

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EndOfTheRoad's avatar

When rank and file leftists have the same opinion as the establishment on everything from rainbow flags to open borders to abortion, it's a distinction without a difference. The left even largely seems to support the Ukraine war. Gaza seems to be the only point of contention.

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The 'left' in America, as understood by people like Michael Shellenberger, is the will and priorities of the Democratic party. True left wingers have limited to no political representation in the US. It's sad so many people enjoy demonizing direct representation in the form of protest or activism when it differs from their own politics. It's one of the few times you get at least some idea of how people genuinely feel and only because of publications like Racket and News2Share. Given that, it's funny to me how all the rejectors of mainstream media, both rightwing and leftwing folks, absolutely eat it up and revel in the conventional wisdom of the establishment when it's putting down regular people exercising their free speech.

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Kate Cahill's avatar

Free speech is destruction of property??

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Chain_Break's avatar

If you or anyone else can show me a video of a significant number of people relative to attendence and match that video with independent estimates of crowd size where the majority - operative word- was engaged in anything not protected by the first amendment, please post.

Otherwise I beseech you to stop using the most routine predictable tactic for discrediting free expression you don't like. That being, one person or a handful of people spray painting a building, breaking a window, throwing a water bottle at a police officer, etc and now the entire protest is reclassified as a riot, violent mob, etc(anything in favor of Palestinians being given human rights there's naturally the reflexive accusation of anti-semitism to boot), and everyone at the scene is part of it and fair game to be arrested and criminally charged.

If that's ok to you then you don't believe in free speech.

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Kate Cahill's avatar

How many of these people spray painting statues w/ mis-spelled signage ( Isreal"?!!) and faux bloody handprints REALLY care about the Palestinians in Gaza? I understand protesting and caring about a cause. I don't understand why that necessitates acting like assholes, shouting down people w/ bullhorns, vandalizing PUBLIC property and basically being DICKS! And the more controlled folk of the group- the "lawyers" holding their kangaroo court? Well they were "well behaved" but I doubt they could hold their own faced w/ an equivalent Israeli group trying to espouse their cause! Who the hell are you people???

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I guess the lost, brainwashed students and their parents from the 60s need something to protest. No matter how twisted the cause, it’s something to do while they collect their food stamps and fuck the new migrants entering illegally. I look at all these young blond and dyed girls yapping it up after being raised in their happy suburbias and have to cringe at how lost this generation has become. The only redemption is that they will guarantee Trumps return.

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MG's avatar

Rich college kids and aging hippies, plus assorted collection of freaks.

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JennyStokes's avatar

GG and Aaron Mate etc are NOT far left. Yo wouldn't no 'left' from 'right' in the US!

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Han's avatar

Ya that was pretty clueless no doubt

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Well it just about is, or the drug & human traffickers, Islamists, and terrorists that Pedo Joe & his handlers have intentionally let in.

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Drew's avatar

I thought their job was dealing with all of the people who want to tell them what their jobs are. Which is why they're always so happy.

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Orenv's avatar

Their job is not to arrest anyone. Their job is to follow the orders of the civilians who tell them who to arrest and when.

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

Funny how so-called “anti fascists” are so terrified of journalists and free speech. That coward with the bullhorn forgot his little brown shorts.

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Marilyn F's avatar

Bingo. @No Use For a Name.

A subscriber named “Jester” posted an insightful observation after viewing the comments from the last Racket video showing a pro Palestinian demonstration. These folks pay for subscriptions so they can barge in when anything Palestine-related is aired. It’s an inexpensive way to stir the pot and cause fear among thoughtful people. They will never go away, but we can ignore them.

Matt’s raison d'etre is free speech. No brown short-wearing trolls will stop him.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Nor shall they stop many of us, either, I trust.

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Drew's avatar

Protesting US state-sponsored genocide seems like a good cause for anti-fascists. No need for the scare quotes.

It was only a bullhorn and not chemical weapons are were deployed against the crowd, apparently. But yeah, that guy seemed like a jerk. I say better our jerk than one of theirs.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

And yet it's Hamas which is dedicated to genocide, while the Palestinian population has grown exponentially.

I'd like to see some of these same people protesting our involvement in Ukraine. Or at least protests about the deaths of Americans in Ukrainian jails since the U.S. backed war began. Ukraine is now a thoroughly fascist state, and we support that as a nation, under Faux Joe.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

I was wrong earlier. There seem to be a great many "witless stupids" squirming out of the woodwork, like cockroaches, today.

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Marilyn F's avatar

Anytime Palestine is mentioned they pop out of their hole.

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Running Burning Man's avatar

Taibbi, and especially his adjacent videographers like Ford Whashisname and Orfalea, seem to attract antisemites and Hamas supporters. I think they hope they can sway Taibbi to come back to his original, Bard-college-inspired roots. You can’t ever expect them to confront their own racism and stupidity. They are the Progressives of America!

But you can laugh and mock them.

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Donna Quixote's avatar

Obama/Biden team set the stage for the Russian invasion

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Ellen Evans's avatar

The one time Obama was right was not intervening in a regional conflict. We should emulate that stance far more often than we do.

If people want to argue for a blanket non-interventionist policy, there's a lot of merit to that argument. The world would be a lot better off if we hadn't interfered in Libya. Or if we'd been smarter and briefer in Afghanistan, if we really had to go there at all. Or Iraq, for that matter.

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TeeJae's avatar

Agreed. But it's interesting how you conveniently leave out the US's support for Israel from that list.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

I thought I had done so when I said there was merit in a blanket policy of non-intervention. But subtlety and nuance are so often wasted, these days. Alas.

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Donna Quixote's avatar

What Pres Obama did was back the the very wrong leaders in Ukraine. VP Biden might well have encourage or manipulated this. U.S. and NATO made stupid stupid mistake prion to the Orange Rev, but he put the orange icing on the cake.

https://www.codepink.org/the_usa_caused_the_war_in_ukraine_and_only_the_usa_can_end_it

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Ellen Evans's avatar

That's rather another question, but surely "install" is more accurate than "back."

And I agree that the only way we end our errors is to GTFO of Ukraine and let them conduct their own affairs with Russia as best they may.

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23 SKIDOO!'s avatar

Hamas isn't dedicated to genocide any more than Israel has been. You do understand the ideological roots of Zionism correct?

The name of the game has been the eradication of Palestinians the whole time. Netanyahu and his supporters put it right out there for you in plain language; they have always and will always use any excuse they can to encroach upon Palestinians and displace them. That's been happening for 50 years, just look at the pattern. This is the same game the Zionists have always played.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Your stupidity - both historical and moral - absolutely breathtaking.

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Roger B's avatar

It’s just another Jew-hater for “Justice”.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

https://nationalpost.com/news/senior-hamas-official-we-will-repeat-oct-7-until-israel-is-finished

And yet they withdrew from Gaza, and enabled the elections which brought Hamas to power (though Hamas has refused to allow any further eletions).

I am not a Netanyahu fan. I have never said I was. I do support Israel's right to exist as a nation, and I do not see any other ceaselessly harangued to cede terrirory gained in the conduct of defensive war.

And I don't think it's fine to slaughter babies, unarmed people at a music festival, nor do I support rape. Israel, at least, tried to warn civilians to evacuate areas planned for attack. Did Hamas do that? I think we both know the answer.

Israel is not targeting civilians. Hamas is.

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TeeJae's avatar

Again, you couldn't be more wrong. Please, at least have the intellectual honesty to educate yourself on what has REALLY happened in that region. Here's a very comprehensive piece to get you started:

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2024/03/29/gaza-war-deceptions-distortions-misperceptions-what-are-the-relevant-actual-facts/

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Very well, I am wrong. Israel has maintained continuous occupancy of Gaza, Hamas has no power there, and Gazan elections are freely held with regularity.

Seriously?

Just from the title of that link, it's obvious that the "actual facts" will be carefully cherry-picked to eliminate inconvenient facts of truly relevant history as "irrelevant," because they don't fit your narrative.

This feud is a thousand years old, revenge for Abraham's not leaving his bastard son by Hagar, Ishmael, a better inheritance, in favor of his son by his wife, Sarah, Israel (also called Isaac), and most of the time within that milennium Jews have got the very sharp end of the stick from the Arab world.

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feldspar's avatar

Who are these Americans dying in Ukrainian jails?

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TeeJae's avatar

Your first sentence is straight out of the hasbara/propaganda playbook, and couldn't be more wrong.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

sounds like you're looking for any excuse for rape during war.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Triggered... nice. See ya!

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Maybe some of us (like myself) have been raped - and my own experience was, let's say, "enhanced" by the knife at my throat - and we can empathize with the trauma of rape victims, Israeli or other. But one doesn't really need to be a rape victim to deplore the act or rape.

When we're ruining college boys' lives when, a year or two after the fact, some idiot activist persuades a girl that an unsatisfactory sexual experience to which she consented was really rape on the one hand, it ill becomes us to deny, dimiss, or diminish the violent rape of Israeli women and girls on the other.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

I can't. I'm not a fan of Netanyahu. I think it's a very poor idea/strategy.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

True. We shouldn't be giving aid to hamas-gazans.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Everyone makes mistakes. Like Biden voters.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

^This.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

No, that's incorrect, but you seem committed to defending rapists no matter what. Your character is showing.

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

Protesting genocide is good. The coward I'm referring to was threatening a journalist, which is what fascists do.

Trash like that ain't "one of ours"

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TeeJae's avatar

Harassing, yes. Threatening, no.

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

Whatever helps you sleep at night, honey.

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Treeamigo's avatar

Oh is that what they were doing? Seemed to me like they were out there supporting Jew-killing terrorists and fascists.

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The Biz's avatar

There is no genocide.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

They're brown for a reason - understandable, given the effect terror can have on the bowels.

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Drew's avatar

There's that red shirt/brown pants joke . . .

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Someone From Texas's avatar

Lt. Jim Dangle would most definitely fit right in with that crowd.

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Art Eckstein's avatar

Fags for Hamas??

“From the River to the Sea

Means off the roof for LGBT!”

These people are morons.

And they’re not even bothering to masquerade as “humanitarians” anymore.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

It is rather like "Rats for the Pied Piper!"

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

So, they are more like you now, is that what you are saying?

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

No, more like you

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Ahhh, I see. Another pro-genocide lunatic weighs in.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

No genocide, Cosmo, attempted & hoped for genocide by Hamas, but they are too corrupt and incompetent to be successful at it.

See my post elsewhere in this thread.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Hamas may be a dangerous bunch, but the Zionists and Israeli's are worse. I suspect your comments posted elsewhere here are more of the same propaganda being fed to the world. It doesn't take much effort to see what's going on here if you are an unbiased observer with an open mind to the truth.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

lol, your Accutane rage can't be stopped. Like your hamas comrades on campuses, your moral stupidity is breathtaking.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

See my reply to you elsewhere.

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Orenv's avatar

Every now and then the mask slips off the left.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

Yes.

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Jon's avatar

Does anyone else get the sense that 95% of the participants in these Hitler Youth demonstrations are there because this is a more realistic version of Cosplay?

When you look at the crowd, they look like a collection of white losers who are only there to try to fit into a social space. They're privileged, slovenly, ignorant and have limited social skills, but can dress up and play the role.

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Kevin Schilling's avatar

well said !

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

People are pissed. On a multitude of topics that Biden fair weathers on. He creates more discord daily. At 72, I m ready to make my protest debut.

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Sharon F.'s avatar

1) kudos to infinitely patient Park Police!!! You rock! Thank you.

2) mobs are not humanity's finest moment; never have been, never will be.

3) I don't think, at some psychic level, that this is really about Palestine at all. Not that I know what it is about.

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

Why is it so hard to believe that some people, when confronted with what they consider to be a great injustice, e.g., the extradition of Julian Assange, the terror and deprivation that Palestinians have suffered at the hands of the Israeli government for over 60 years, now with visual representation, the unbearable conditions in U.S. prisons, the humiliation and poverty accorded black Americans for decades, will rise up and protest on behalf of those who cannot? I think it an honorable thing for someone to participate in a protest movement (Your choice of "mob" is telling.).

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Protest is acceptable, certainly - so long as it is peaceful, and does no damage to individuals nor property. Will you claim that these protests have complied with these strictures? If so, you haven't been keeping informed.

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

To be honest, I don't think the protests have harmed individuals. Did they spray paint buildings, probably so in some instances. However, I do not think protests should be condemned for those actions to private property, and I certainly do not think they are grounds for calling in the police, expelling students or threatening their future careers, when they take place on universities. I do think it's appropriate to have students who have spray painted property to clean it up.

You are not quite correct when you say I "haven't been keeping informed." The truth is that we rely on totally different agencies for our news reports. I trust Glenn Greenwald, Chris Hedges, Aaron Mate, John Mearsheim, Noam Chomsky, Norm Finkelstein Amy Goodman, implicitly, and think it a waste of time to tune into mainstream media.

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An elderly Jewish man coutner-protesting at an anti-Israel protest in Southern California was stalked, harassed, knocked to the ground, and died of his injuries. I think that counts as harm. There have been other, less severe assaults.

And I personally think vandalism of property a perfectly acceptable reason for expulsion. Such acts evince a terrible lack of any sense of social responsibility.

But if these were honest protesters, they would not need to hide behind masks. The principled proterster stands behind his or her actions, and stands up to take any legal consequences for lawbreaking. Certainly, the Reverand Dr. King submitted, and never hid behind a cowardly anonymity.

The current crop of protesters seem to feel entitled to rampage at will, and believe that any consequences should be borne only by those they are protesting against. In fact, the sebse of their own entitlement seems to be their most salient characteristic.

It's now "opression" not to cater their campus takeovers, rush in to supply them with what they failed to think of providing for themselves. No, I have no respect for that mindset. Not one jot.

Al Capp put it very well a long time ago: "Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything." S.W.I.N.E.

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

Of course the example of the old man is terrible. However, that is not the norm. The greatest violence that I have heard reported was that of pro-Israel students at UCLA (although they may not have actually been students) against pro-Palestinians supporters. You mention masks, why are the students wearing them? It's b/c Bill Ackman, advocated that influential persons go after students on university campuses who are protesting in support of the Palestinians, and wage a war against them, seeking their expulsion or that they never be hired by any of his colleagues. I think someone wearing a mask can still be an "honest protester,"; they're simply being pragmatic.

What you ascribe to the "current crop of protesters" was leveled at people participating in the Watts riots of 1965 and later.

Now if you want to claim that those young people comprising the Z generation have an extraordinary sense of entitlement, I would probably agree with you, but to say that it is unique to protesters, not at all. In fact, if my 5 granddaughters were to care sufficiently about an injustice to take to the streets, I would be so proud of them, I would feel their priorities are surely in the right place - injustice demands protest.

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Orenv's avatar

Failing to identify yourself is failure to commit to the cause. But as noted, all this really is cosplay.

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TeeJae's avatar

Amen!

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TeeJae's avatar

The violence has gone both ways: "Shortly before midnight, a group of about 200 pro-Israel counter-protesters arrived at UCLA’s campus and began attempting to tear down barriers surrounding the student encampment. Videos on social media show the group firing fireworks into the encampment, beating students, throwing objects, and shouting things like “second Nakba,” at the encampment — a reference to the 1948 ethnic cleansing and expulsion of Palestinians from the territory that now comprises Israel." https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ucla-student-encampment-attack-pro-israel-1235013151/

In Fischer's video above, there were NO protesters "rampag[ing] at will," MOST of them were NOT masked, and there were a variety of other demographics than just college students... demonstrating that these pro-Palestinian protests involve MANY OTHER people than just the "entitled, socially-irresponsible, cowardly, disrespectful young people" picture you are trying to paint. In fact, pro-Palestinian supporters from ALL walks of life have existed since as far back as Israel's Nakba in 1948.

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Orenv's avatar

So it is OK for anyone to throw paint on another persons property so long as they "clean it up". Said someone who obviously has never cleaned paint off anything. It costs thousands of dollars to repaint structures. The scrubbing leaves marks on the structure and the whole thing needs to be repainted to make the owner "whole". But not just that. They are inconvenienced by the original paint, the cleaning off, and the painting back. But it is easy to see how a leftist has no empathy for anyone else. Expecially those they would rather see imprisoned, in the gulag, or (as always happens eventually when the left loses patience) dead.

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

No, it is not okay, and I respect your points up to "But it is easy to see..........

As thinking human beings, we have to weigh the actions of what I am presuming to be a few people in damaging private property against the dispossession and murder of thousands of Palestinians through the complicity of Israel and the U.S. For me, this doesn't take much thought.

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MG's avatar

Given your reasoning, anything goes. Violence, property destruction, attacking Jews, attacking LOEs.

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Orenv's avatar

People get murdered by the millions. We are typically only presented the ones that a particular ideology wants us to care about. Yes it is tragic that the Palestinians are led by murderous tyrants. But you stand by and elect, then tolerate murderous tyrants, there might be a price to pay. We are all hostages to the whims of the people we elect. I wouldn't go hiking through Afghanistan today if I was American because of the decisions made by the people who run our country.

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Patrick's avatar

Pay no attention to the damage. Nothing to see here. Rochambeau was probably a racist anyway.

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MissAnneThrope's avatar

I'm all in for protesting when our "leaders" are objectively selling human kind up the river on endless fronts, war and otherwise. Good on these people. The worst that happened was graffiti. Meanwhile, there's blood & body parts in what's left of Gaza. And we're here with what we laughably call a democratic republic in the death throes. Ashes. Ashes. We all fall down.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Gazan government started a war. Fafo.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

sorry neutrogena, your hamasturbator comrades started a war and now the empty headed excuse makers whine about it. Too bad.

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Orenv's avatar

You can make all the plans you want. But soon as they contact enemy actions, you need new plans.

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Sharon F.'s avatar

Two questions: 1. mode of operation. Some of these are more peaceful and less destructive of property and respectful of law enforcement than others. It doesn't garner support to destroy property or disrespect law enforcement. If the point is not to garner support for these positions, then what is the point?

2. All those things you decry are valid things to protest... and yet... why Palestine specifically? Why now specifically?

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Alex's avatar

People have been protesting over Israel's apartheid government for decades this isn't a new issue. The protests have ramped up in scale because Israel has escalated to blatantly commiting acts of genocide while being funded with our tax money to do so. People are rightly pissed off about it and they're taking to the streets in greater numbers.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

No apartheid, Alex, millions of Palestinian Arabs of various religions who are full citizens of Israel with voting rights and rights to hold elective office. Actions have consequences; the Gazans voted for Hamas in supposedly a free and fair election at least once ( maybe not so much recently)they are finding Out the consequences now, good and hard,but it is their made bed.

I have made this point repeatedly in thee stacks and I have yet to have anyone contest this.

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Alex's avatar

This at best a deflection that ignores the conditions that millions of Palestinians are living in. Israel is as much an apartheid state today as South Africa or Ireland under British rule were.

Calling the election of Hamas a free and fair election when we know for a fact that the Lakud party funded and proper them up specifically to undermine a two state peace solution is an actual joke.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Again, Alex makes an ignorant statement. Gaza has gotten millions, likely billions of dollars in aid from the UN, the US, & Israel over the years, they tore up their plumbing and sewer system to use for making rockets to terrorize & attack civilian Israel populations, the food aid is diverted to the Hamas military/paramilitary; the financial aid supports the families of dead suicidal boys who are looking for the mythical 72 virgins.

Actually, Alex, Israel did fund Hamas to begin with as a counter weight to the corrupt PLO; it was a mistake, kinda like the US originally funding the Taliban against the Soviets.

There was never a 2 state peace proposal that was going to work; the Palestinians of what ever stripe would say one thing to the press & the western diplomats, but to their own people, they have always been ‘from the River to the Sea, so that BS isn’t going to fly.

There were no IDF forces holding guns to the heads of the voters in Gaza.

The joke is your assertion (whether you believe it or not) that the Palestinians want or would accept a 2 state solution.

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Sharon F.'s avatar

Some people are demonstrating in some places in the US, in other places no one is demonstrating. So there’s that. Actually seeing those videos makes me less sympathetic to the protestors’ cause. Is that a feature or a bug to you?

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JK's avatar

But they ignore the killing of white farmers in South Africa or Coptic Christians in Egypt and other parts of the Middle East. They have selective outrage. I’m sure some know why they’re protesting but I think some will be there because a keffiyeh looks cool. Remember when university kids wore the Che Guevara shirt?

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

Plus Keffiyehs are handed out free!

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Marie Silvani's avatar

You mean like J6

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Noam Deplume, Jr. (look,at,me)'s avatar

“Well, maybe like Casy says, a fella ain’t got a soul of his own, but on’y a piece of a big one — an’ then—“

“Then what, Tom?”

“Then it don’ matter. Then I’ll be all aroun’ in the dark. I’ll be everywhere — wherever you look. Wherever they’s a fight so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever they’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there. If Casy knowed, why, I’ll be in the way guys yell when they’re mad an’ — I’ll be in the way kids laugh when they’re hungry an’ they know supper’s ready. An’ when our folks eat the stuff they raise an’ live in the houses they build–why, I’ll be there. See?” - Tom Joad as played by Henry Fonda in The Grapes of Wrath

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

This protest was about Palestine as much as the VAX was about the prevention of COVID.

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Art Eckstein's avatar

The Dartmouth graduation ceremony was interrupted yesterday by the Democratic Socialists of America shouting “Death to America!”

Get the picture?

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

Was the Dartmouth graduation ceremonies linked to the protest in DC?

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Art Eckstein's avatar

I don’t think so.

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Marilyn F's avatar

It’s mostly about causing fear so they can dominate. Make people fearful & they will give in to anything (e.g., the vax)

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joanna's avatar

Agree with #1 & 2 strongly. Bad behavior on both sides among protesters. I wouldn't want to be associated with the guy with the bullhorn. As to #3, this is a genocide, and if anything gets people out to protest, it should be this. But it's also true that we don't protest other injustices and horrors. People are inconsistent, but that doesn't make opposing this less justified.

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The Biz's avatar

Hope those clowns trip over their Keffiyeh and bust a lip.

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Jon's avatar

Eve Barlow, on her Substack, referred to keffiyehs as 'bougie swastikas'.

That alone is reason to subscribe to Eve.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

I love that - thanks, and I will check out Ms. Barlow's Substack today.

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Dennis's avatar

👆🏼Typical Taibbi reader now

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The Biz's avatar

Surprised you are so comfortable with rape.

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

You need to get all the facts.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

If you don't believe the raped women, I can only pity and despise you.

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

I do not believe anything without proof. The Israeli government has consistently lied about what has occurred, e.g., the beheading of babies during the Hamas attack, as has the U.S. government. They have hit upon a great tactic - say anything, no matter whether based in reality or not, you can always retract it or say it wasn't what you meant, weeks later, realizing that the original lie is what will stick with people.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Some of the raped hostages, now rescued, have directly spoken of their victimization. Do your require testimony from their gynecologists?

Have you ever been raped? I have, with a knife at my throat - it's quite a horrible experience.

Did you respond this way to the accusations made during the #MeToo frenzy? I suspect you did not.

Do you apply this same standard across the board? I suspect you do not.

Do you believe Hamas' vehement statements that October 7 will be repeated until there are no Jewish people left in the Middle East, their ancestral homeland? I suspect you do not.

Or are you just another Jew-hater? Because you sound like one.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Just say you hate Jews. These exchanges go a lot smoother when bigots stop hiding their bigotry. We all see it.

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Jon's avatar

How much to you get paid per submission? Are you still able to sleep at night?

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TeeJae's avatar

Exactly. It's amazing how many people are still unaware that this is the S.O.P. of Western governments.

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The Biz's avatar

Brilliant? Sophisticated? Not a clown terrorist loving moron? You betcha.

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TeeJae's avatar

It does appear the hasbara trolls have descended upon Racket News, sadly. Not surprising though, as their job is to scour the internet for anything anti-Israel to then unleash their zionist drivel.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

That's an accolade any sensible, thinking person would be proud to hold.

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Dennis's avatar

And yet you buy the bullshit spewed by the U.S. and Israel when it comes to their colonial project in the Middle East. Such brave knowledge seekers who “see through” everything. Matt has failed you, out of fear more than likely, with how he handles Palestine. Turn to Aaron Mate or Max Blumenthal for your coverage here.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Why, can't you tolerate dissent?

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Marilyn F's avatar

Hahaha!

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Marianna Chambless's avatar

What a profound statement!

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Jon's avatar

This isn't a result of either Biden or Trumps administrations, but reflects Obama's pledge to 'fundamentally change' our country.

There's no downsides anymore to uncivilized behavior, as long as it supports the Left's cause. This is the position of a former 'Community Organizer' who brought a Chicago style 'any means to an end' philosophy to the federal government.

He was raised with all of the benefits of an entitled white child, but decided to profit on his 'black' brand to make a career in politics, which paid off handsomely for him, at the countries expense.

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David Cashion's avatar

His mother was a slut and he blames and hates America for it.

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Drew's avatar

Protests may not be "civilized" but the founders used them and tried to draft a Constitution to protect them, unlike the overly-"civilized" British, may their royals rot in hell.

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Jon's avatar

Yes, protests can be civilized, but most of these recent anti Jew protests have broken a number of state and federal laws, yet I don't see anyone really suffering the consequences of their actions.

Again, this goes back to Obama setting the precedent of allowing riots, as long as they promoted the Left's position.

Contrast that with J6 prisoners who have been in jail for over three years with no charges brought yet.

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Thoughtful Reader's avatar

Agree with you, aside from your exoneration of Biden (cough, Obama, cough). He was Obama’s VP, remember? (Back before he was a vacant shell.) Today, he’s a poorly strung marionette for the exact same forces.

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Jon's avatar

I exonerate him for the reason you stated, Joe only does what he's told by his handlers, principally Obama, or his couriers.

I feel no sympathy for the elder abuse Joe's suffering from as he's been a government parasite for 50 years.

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Bill Beshlian's avatar

Isn’t that an insurrection?

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Of course not! Nor was the invasion and vandalism of Federal buildings and at least one Senator's local office during the BLMantifa riots insurrection. Nor was it insurrection when leftist screechers assailed the Capitol during the shameful, bogus Kavannaugh "hearings" to harangue members of Congress at their jobs. Nor when Rep. Jamal Bowman deliberately impeded a Congressional vote by literally crying "fire" in a crowded building.

It's only insurrection when you're going against the groupthink promulgated by almost every leftist and Democrat politician.

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Marilyn F's avatar

Accurately stated. Thank you.

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Art's avatar

When I watch this video, it’s not clear whether I’m seeing stupidity or evil. Or some disconcerting hybrid of the two.

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McExpat's avatar

Stupidity bankrolled by evil.

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Nathaniel Banatz's avatar

My father was a US Army Officer who spent his career killing communists. During the Nixon administration, I was a sullen teenager and I recall him watching the DC protests on TV and saying “God bless America”. I didn’t get it back then, but I get it now.

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Savi_heretic33's avatar

And this is why the democratic party will try to jail and disqualify Donald Trump. Biden's lost votes of his deranged base. These people are sick and dangerous. J-6ers don't hold a candle to their psychosis.

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Mark Kennedy's avatar

Now we know what Israel has been putting up with all these years...

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David Cashion's avatar

Yes

A small taste of what's coming.

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Shelley's avatar

Could not watch for even a full minute. Who is funding these spectacles? Best to send them down to the southern border where they can welcome millions more just like them.

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KDBD's avatar

Watched about half of this video. That is all I could take of it. It had the opposite effect on me than the protesters intended making me more pro Israel or maybe anti Palestinian leadership.

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AyJay's avatar

Uncensored as it should be. It is best to hear them expand on their motivation and allegiance. That they are extending the Gaza war by giving hope to Hamas, even openly praising Hamas, is up to the observer to judge. The recent refusal of Hamas to accept a negotiated ceasefire may be tied to the increased protest activity, with Hamas leveraging Biden's potential election loss. No matter how many civilians are killed.

The DC demonstrations I attended in the '70's were so f'n tame compared to these. Ushering in the right, the little darlings. Trump may well just use the well oiled machinery of lawfare of the state. Really no light at the end of the tunnel.

Surrounded by states dedicated to destroy them, Israel is fighting for its life. Should they abandon the land and flee to western nations? Will those democratic nations then revive their centuries old practice of formulating policies to deal with the "Jewish question"?

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McExpat's avatar

These protesters, if they weren’t so captured and understood what’s at stake would be protesting Iran.

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