Some demonstrators wanted Congress to reject certification of Trump's election, while others gathered to ask for pardons for the original January 6th protesters
If a crowd of NPR listeners. eyes bugging out from too many cappucinos and Maddow conspiracy theories, were to try to disrupt the election certification, the Inauguration or whatever, nobody on CNN would be proclaiming this The Greatest Threat In History To Muh Democracy.
We'd instead be hearing the same pompous talking heads piously remind us about how The Right To Protest Is Sacred. The ghost of St. MLK would be duly invoked.
At the same time, were protesters to try to force their way into an important building, say, NSA headquarters, they'd be shot on sight, and nobody would be waffling and making imaginary snowballs while waiting for orders from Higher Up.
Don't you understand how democracy works?! It's when voters are faced with the Good and Correct opinions on the one hand, and wisely choose those over the Evil and Incorrect opinions on the other.
Unfortunately, some eggheads seem to have this cockamamie idea that voting exists because there *is* no such thing as disembodied Good vs Evil, or Correct vs Incorrect, or, that somehow, it's just too damn difficult for Our Side to figure it out and Their Side to sheepishly learn and accept. Sheesh! Go figure...
All of this is an unavoidable consequence of overproduction of elites and their expectation that they should rule the world. We are already seeing them eating their own. This round of Woke is in its dying throes and these folks, despite fervent belief in the rightness of their pursuit, are just dead enders.
Meanwhile the kids who went to state universities and got business and science degrees are too busy at work making money to stand out in the DC cold with signs.
I especially liked the guy complaining that Russia spent "millions and millions of dollars" to drum disinformation into voters' heads. Maybe they did but if so, there's probably an efficiency lesson in the fact that Democrats spent $1.3 billion and apparently couldn't successfully push back.
That's one of my favorite lines of reasoning coming from D partisans. You would think the D partisan may stop and think "how out of touch is my party that a bunch of Russians better understand how to persuade American voters, and with a fraction of the money can outperform the entire DNC? An association of people whose top priority is to help Democrats win elections got beat by Ivan and the Terribles."
Yeah, blaming the Russians might not be the iron-clad defense they think it is.
Anyone still whining about Russian “interference” needs to chill out and look at the CIAs role in funding and providing campaign consultants to Boris Yeltsin’s presidential campaign in Russia in the 90s ( which I don’t hold against the CIA-that’s the kind of thing they are supposed to be doing-operating in foreign countries to promote US interests)
If anyone serious actually believed that Russia had any influence on the election, every advertiser in the land would be demanding that Russians run their ad campaigns. Anything else would be like bringing a Super Soaker to a gunfight.
For that matter, the entire russiagate conspiracy theory requires its adherents to assert that, on the one hand "Russia" has powers bordering on the occult, but at the same time, has no clue how to use these superpowers.
It is a remarkable exercise in suspension of disbelief. If wishcasting is forecasting your wildest dreams then the Russian narrative is fearcasting - forecasting your wildest fears.
Great point you bring up here. Any normal productive person doesn't have time to go to these protests. The partcipants are self-selecting from groups that don't represent everyday Americans.
Well, it only takes me 20 minutes to go thru comments and maybe offer one of my own. I can still be productive. Going to a protest is suffering from traffic and parking, or using public transport, and it's many hours out of one's life. If I want to hold my pee for several hours, I'll go to Andy and Anderson's New Year's bash.
"Overproduction of elites"...sounds like you have read Peter Turchin's work. It's fascinating how his analyses of history are being validated by our current times.
The screaming banshee woman on the megaphone railing against “terrorist” Ashlee B epitomizes the obvious mental illness afflicting so many of the brain riddled TDS left.
This video shows emotionally broken people. Their hive minded hatred of Trump allows them to ignore or even support open borders and the invasion of 12-25 million illegals, crippling inflation, multiple wars, delusional men insisting on playing on women’s and girls’s team and wanting into their bathrooms, allowing transvestites access to little children to sexualize them, put pornography in grammar school libraries, etc etc. These people hate Trump and anything he’s for they’re against. Many of them hate this country and are happy Harris voters who wanted four more years of destruction of the country. These are the actual DEPLORABLES!
What is it with you woke dipshits? When you’re faced with facts, you deflect, you ignore or you become irritating! Anything to avoid reality. If you disagree say why. I said what I said and you’re having a hard time dealing with it.
I don't know--is it sad? Anyone who thinks it is bad (like that dude above who obviously thinks recruitment to the gay lifestyle is going on) can offer their volunteer services at their libraries. I'm sure they'd be more than welcome.
Maybe someone should ask the kids how they feel about it. Kids play dress-up, and they think it's fun when others do too.
We are experiencing a bizarre conundrum wherein many of the elite “educated” class are in complete denial about the truth showing the hypocrisy, corruption, incompetence, & self righteousnessof their leftist leaders. How can so many who think they are so intelligent be so ignorant.
Contrary to popular belief, cognitive dissonance is in fact more common among the edcuated and intelligent, because the educated and intelligent are better at constructing convincing narratives and manipulating symbols.
One can easily imagine a Ph.D. constructing an elaborate and erudite-sounding fantasy world about how cats who identify as dogs and just need acceptance as such. Tabby ain't having none of that, but that won't stop the overeducated, they'll just come up with some new narrative about how the cat hasn't come to terms yet or maybe it's some other cat, have you talked to every single cat out there?
It is really eerie how many of the highly educated share a hive mind. I keep thinking maybe one of them might have read some science fiction -- or some history -- & might recognize some of the same patterns playing out in real time.
Keep in mind that much of human interaction is basically status games and herd behavior. To give an example, the russiagate conspiracy theory was obviously ludicrous on its face, and contradicted by all available evidence.
However it was convenient for the Empire and high status, and as such remains an article of faith even though it remains absurd.
I wonder if people who have been to college and beyond believe they have entered a higher milieu and want to certify their right to be there by parroting what they hear in their exclusive circles.
Can we please replace the word "educated" with "degreed" or "credentialed" when talking about so-called elites? It is a distinction with a decided difference. I work in academia, at a major public university, and the most thoughtful, interesting, informed discussions I have when in the office take place in the basement (i.e., not on faculty floors).
"I think this is what they used to call 'reporting' "
Yep. Prior to the 'News as Entertainment' (Gulf War '91) it was even routine to see footage of mangled bodies (Vietnam '60s-'70s) to help us understand war.
Now, we're told, "There, there! It's going to be all right! I know, I know, that mean man is just *awful*, isn't he? Just turn on the TeeVee, and take your soma, um, xanax! Never stop repeating to yourself that 'Our brave new world is WONDERFUL!!'"
The idea that there are only two sides to the American culture is the foundational error that shuts out the truth, i;e., that they are many sides to the American culture. The fact that there are only 2 major political parties is why these many sides have to be funneled into just 2 sides: You are either with me or against me. It's a lot like football.
January 6th. The hit song that cuts through government propaganda to reveal the real story of injustice, where the punishment never fit the crime. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/january-6
The events of January 6th have been labeled by the government and media as an "armed insurrection," but the reality tells a far more complex and troubling story. "January 6," a classic protest song, cuts through the distortions to uncover the facts. This song challenges the official narrative and defends the rights of those who questioned the 2020 election, where Joe Biden's astonishing tally of 81 million votes—10 million more than any Democratic candidate in history, including Obama, Clintonand Harris—understandably fueled skepticism among many Americans.
The unrest at the Capitol wasn’t the result of a premeditated coup but was exacerbated by the heavy-handed response of Capitol and DC police. Their flashbang grenades, tear gas, and excessive force poured gasoline on an already volatile situation. Not a single gun was brought into the Capitol by protesters, yet the police were the ones to use deadly force, tragically shooting an unarmed woman, Ashli Babbitt. Meanwhile, the crimes of those present were overcharged, and the harsh sentences handed down were wildly disproportionate to the actual offenses, with many non-violent participants subjected to unjust punishment.
This song stands as a defiant anthem for truth and justice, capturing the voices of those who dared to contest a flawed system and an election they believed was compromised. With its bold lyrics and compelling message, "January 6" is a modern protest song that shines a light on government overreach, media distortion, and the erosion of civil liberties. It is a call to reflect, question, and remember.
They should read 14A, sec. 3, ask themselves whether this law applies to the facts of the case. Sec. 3 does not mention the President, nor do the facts of the case indicate a charge of insurrection against anyone.
You are exercising your right to redress of grievances, as did your 2000 trailblazers. Congratulations!
“My wife was MAGA. I divorced her. I live in a trailer.”
Strong decision making skills dude. Nice flex!
my guess is it was the other way around
‘Guessing he did her a favor!
He's so proud of all he's given up for the cause.
Can you imagine divorcing someone over a vote? That's just bonkers.
Sad man in an unhappy marriage desperate to cling to some greater meaning than that.
MAGA or no, I'd rather live by myself in a trailer than live in a mansion with someone I can't stand.
nah. most mansions have getaway spaces
All of mine do. 😂
How insane & inhumane is that 🙄lol
O, Oppressed Minority, please!
If a crowd of NPR listeners. eyes bugging out from too many cappucinos and Maddow conspiracy theories, were to try to disrupt the election certification, the Inauguration or whatever, nobody on CNN would be proclaiming this The Greatest Threat In History To Muh Democracy.
We'd instead be hearing the same pompous talking heads piously remind us about how The Right To Protest Is Sacred. The ghost of St. MLK would be duly invoked.
At the same time, were protesters to try to force their way into an important building, say, NSA headquarters, they'd be shot on sight, and nobody would be waffling and making imaginary snowballs while waiting for orders from Higher Up.
Remember them banging on the doors of the Supreme Court?
Remember when they rioted in DC in 2020? They set a fire in the basement of a church near the WH.
Maybe it's just me, but that seems a bit more disturbing than January 6th.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/fires-light-up-washington-dc-on-third-night-of-george-floyd-protests
Don't you understand how democracy works?! It's when voters are faced with the Good and Correct opinions on the one hand, and wisely choose those over the Evil and Incorrect opinions on the other.
Unfortunately, some eggheads seem to have this cockamamie idea that voting exists because there *is* no such thing as disembodied Good vs Evil, or Correct vs Incorrect, or, that somehow, it's just too damn difficult for Our Side to figure it out and Their Side to sheepishly learn and accept. Sheesh! Go figure...
Correct & correct!
All of this is an unavoidable consequence of overproduction of elites and their expectation that they should rule the world. We are already seeing them eating their own. This round of Woke is in its dying throes and these folks, despite fervent belief in the rightness of their pursuit, are just dead enders.
Meanwhile the kids who went to state universities and got business and science degrees are too busy at work making money to stand out in the DC cold with signs.
I especially liked the guy complaining that Russia spent "millions and millions of dollars" to drum disinformation into voters' heads. Maybe they did but if so, there's probably an efficiency lesson in the fact that Democrats spent $1.3 billion and apparently couldn't successfully push back.
That's one of my favorite lines of reasoning coming from D partisans. You would think the D partisan may stop and think "how out of touch is my party that a bunch of Russians better understand how to persuade American voters, and with a fraction of the money can outperform the entire DNC? An association of people whose top priority is to help Democrats win elections got beat by Ivan and the Terribles."
Yeah, blaming the Russians might not be the iron-clad defense they think it is.
Maybe next election, the Dems should hire the Russians as consultants.
They'd probably work for less than whatever Kamala paid.
Ba-dum tsssh!!!
Anyone still whining about Russian “interference” needs to chill out and look at the CIAs role in funding and providing campaign consultants to Boris Yeltsin’s presidential campaign in Russia in the 90s ( which I don’t hold against the CIA-that’s the kind of thing they are supposed to be doing-operating in foreign countries to promote US interests)
If anyone serious actually believed that Russia had any influence on the election, every advertiser in the land would be demanding that Russians run their ad campaigns. Anything else would be like bringing a Super Soaker to a gunfight.
For that matter, the entire russiagate conspiracy theory requires its adherents to assert that, on the one hand "Russia" has powers bordering on the occult, but at the same time, has no clue how to use these superpowers.
It is a remarkable exercise in suspension of disbelief. If wishcasting is forecasting your wildest dreams then the Russian narrative is fearcasting - forecasting your wildest fears.
meow?
Great point you bring up here. Any normal productive person doesn't have time to go to these protests. The partcipants are self-selecting from groups that don't represent everyday Americans.
But comment sections on articles about protesters are teeming with productive people?
Well, it only takes me 20 minutes to go thru comments and maybe offer one of my own. I can still be productive. Going to a protest is suffering from traffic and parking, or using public transport, and it's many hours out of one's life. If I want to hold my pee for several hours, I'll go to Andy and Anderson's New Year's bash.
Patriots go on their own. I’m one of them.
I thought he was doing a 'bit' about Russia. His tagline said 'comedian," after all. ;)
And in the last election Zuckerberg/Meta alone gave the Democrats $500 million to knock out Trump….
Source?
"Overproduction of elites"...sounds like you have read Peter Turchin's work. It's fascinating how his analyses of history are being validated by our current times.
The screaming banshee woman on the megaphone railing against “terrorist” Ashlee B epitomizes the obvious mental illness afflicting so many of the brain riddled TDS left.
Made me think of Sam Kinison.
I just kept thinking how much she's gonna be needing some throat lozenges.
She even followed them to the jail later, still screeching like a complete lunatic.
Bingo
This video shows emotionally broken people. Their hive minded hatred of Trump allows them to ignore or even support open borders and the invasion of 12-25 million illegals, crippling inflation, multiple wars, delusional men insisting on playing on women’s and girls’s team and wanting into their bathrooms, allowing transvestites access to little children to sexualize them, put pornography in grammar school libraries, etc etc. These people hate Trump and anything he’s for they’re against. Many of them hate this country and are happy Harris voters who wanted four more years of destruction of the country. These are the actual DEPLORABLES!
What is it with you woke dipshits? When you’re faced with facts, you deflect, you ignore or you become irritating! Anything to avoid reality. If you disagree say why. I said what I said and you’re having a hard time dealing with it.
You had me until you went to Drag Queen Story Hour. C'mon. Do you also believe in Dems eating babies?
Sadly, Drag queen Story Hour is real. I have seen it in my local public library....for pre=schoolers.
I don't know--is it sad? Anyone who thinks it is bad (like that dude above who obviously thinks recruitment to the gay lifestyle is going on) can offer their volunteer services at their libraries. I'm sure they'd be more than welcome.
Maybe someone should ask the kids how they feel about it. Kids play dress-up, and they think it's fun when others do too.
So you’re a drag queen story hour devotee? Tell us about that.
Dude, you're the one who's obsessed with it. I think you're projecting.
You had me until dems eating babies???
Tin foil hats come in red and blue and all sizes. Stay sane.
Best post in the thread.
The anti-Trump protesters look like they loaded everyone shopping at the Brattleboro co-op in VT onto a bus and drove them to DC.
We are experiencing a bizarre conundrum wherein many of the elite “educated” class are in complete denial about the truth showing the hypocrisy, corruption, incompetence, & self righteousnessof their leftist leaders. How can so many who think they are so intelligent be so ignorant.
Contrary to popular belief, cognitive dissonance is in fact more common among the edcuated and intelligent, because the educated and intelligent are better at constructing convincing narratives and manipulating symbols.
One can easily imagine a Ph.D. constructing an elaborate and erudite-sounding fantasy world about how cats who identify as dogs and just need acceptance as such. Tabby ain't having none of that, but that won't stop the overeducated, they'll just come up with some new narrative about how the cat hasn't come to terms yet or maybe it's some other cat, have you talked to every single cat out there?
Wow.
Mind blown.
It is really eerie how many of the highly educated share a hive mind. I keep thinking maybe one of them might have read some science fiction -- or some history -- & might recognize some of the same patterns playing out in real time.
But no.
Keep in mind that much of human interaction is basically status games and herd behavior. To give an example, the russiagate conspiracy theory was obviously ludicrous on its face, and contradicted by all available evidence.
However it was convenient for the Empire and high status, and as such remains an article of faith even though it remains absurd.
I wonder if people who have been to college and beyond believe they have entered a higher milieu and want to certify their right to be there by parroting what they hear in their exclusive circles.
Rationalization is a hell of a drug.
I guess?
Can we please replace the word "educated" with "degreed" or "credentialed" when talking about so-called elites? It is a distinction with a decided difference. I work in academia, at a major public university, and the most thoughtful, interesting, informed discussions I have when in the office take place in the basement (i.e., not on faculty floors).
It’s just our broken human condition and nature
I don’t actually ❤️this clip but I do appreciate that this activism piece was captured on film and you posted it.
I very much agree. I think this is what they used to call "reporting" :-)
"I think this is what they used to call 'reporting' "
Yep. Prior to the 'News as Entertainment' (Gulf War '91) it was even routine to see footage of mangled bodies (Vietnam '60s-'70s) to help us understand war.
Now, we're told, "There, there! It's going to be all right! I know, I know, that mean man is just *awful*, isn't he? Just turn on the TeeVee, and take your soma, um, xanax! Never stop repeating to yourself that 'Our brave new world is WONDERFUL!!'"
I found the most salient part of the clip to be the very low numbers of people in each group. good sign, I think
I thought I wanted a “view through aquarium-clear glass at both sides of the American culture war,” but I don’t.
The idea that there are only two sides to the American culture is the foundational error that shuts out the truth, i;e., that they are many sides to the American culture. The fact that there are only 2 major political parties is why these many sides have to be funneled into just 2 sides: You are either with me or against me. It's a lot like football.
January 6th. The hit song that cuts through government propaganda to reveal the real story of injustice, where the punishment never fit the crime. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/january-6
The events of January 6th have been labeled by the government and media as an "armed insurrection," but the reality tells a far more complex and troubling story. "January 6," a classic protest song, cuts through the distortions to uncover the facts. This song challenges the official narrative and defends the rights of those who questioned the 2020 election, where Joe Biden's astonishing tally of 81 million votes—10 million more than any Democratic candidate in history, including Obama, Clintonand Harris—understandably fueled skepticism among many Americans.
The unrest at the Capitol wasn’t the result of a premeditated coup but was exacerbated by the heavy-handed response of Capitol and DC police. Their flashbang grenades, tear gas, and excessive force poured gasoline on an already volatile situation. Not a single gun was brought into the Capitol by protesters, yet the police were the ones to use deadly force, tragically shooting an unarmed woman, Ashli Babbitt. Meanwhile, the crimes of those present were overcharged, and the harsh sentences handed down were wildly disproportionate to the actual offenses, with many non-violent participants subjected to unjust punishment.
This song stands as a defiant anthem for truth and justice, capturing the voices of those who dared to contest a flawed system and an election they believed was compromised. With its bold lyrics and compelling message, "January 6" is a modern protest song that shines a light on government overreach, media distortion, and the erosion of civil liberties. It is a call to reflect, question, and remember.
Excellently stated commentary and lyrics!
We can reasonably proffer cop is a dick by blaring siren during singing of National Anthem.
Jim
The siren and other loud noises were from bullhorn lady.
My thought exactly. Guess all cops aren't as patriotic as they claim.
There’s what? 25 people protesting? Not much of a show-out for a country of 330 million people.
They should read 14A, sec. 3, ask themselves whether this law applies to the facts of the case. Sec. 3 does not mention the President, nor do the facts of the case indicate a charge of insurrection against anyone.
You are exercising your right to redress of grievances, as did your 2000 trailblazers. Congratulations!
Nice job Ford. Nothing like unfiltered film. Please include more long shots so that we can see total attendance to give it a little more perspective.
This is why I watch on 1.5 speed. 5 fewer minutes of wasted time watching the usual suspects screaming into the abyss.
yeah the dark side of the American Moon gets a little tedious. This is a spectacle for mental health professionals probably more than journalists.
Unless the journos' beat is mental health.
Political Pyschosis should be a DSM code.