OK, so you're a conservative and don't believe in rights, only privilege at the discretion of the powerful. Unfortunately for you, the founders did and so although they were hypocrites, they claimed rights that they denied blacks they did indeed state that rights are not granted by men but by the "creator", which, if one doesn't believe in god, means that they just exist because we consider ourselves moral.
Your view is why conservatives do not deserve to live in a liberal society, they will always work to suppress rights that they don't agree with. Conservatives are the problem and always have been.
Wow you really do have an unhealthy fixation with "conservatives" don't you? Why on earth would you consider his comment to be a conservative stance? The argument against the existence of natural rights is actually far more likely to come from a non-religious, progressive stance than a conservative one.
Conservatives are far more likely to argue for rights granted by god, just as you have stated above. But your statement "if one doesn't believe in god, means that they just exist because we consider ourselves moral" is actually in complete agreement with what Benjamin wrote, you just don't seem to realize it. Ask yourself what the non-religious basis of morality is, and you will understand the problem of natural rights.
And do try to keep in mind that I agree with Benjamin, I am non-religious, and I am not a conservative, so don't try any petty name calling or pigeon-holing with me.
I am honest about conservatives, they are THE problem. Sure, libertarians, liberal extremists, have caused a great many problems due to their Objectivism, but they do not infringe on others' rights, except in preventing government from regulating in their interest.
Conservatives recognize only privilege in accordance with righteousness, there are no rights in their eyes.
I would also argue that there are no such things as inalienable or natural rights, there are only the rights that humans decide to give each other.
OK, so you're a conservative and don't believe in rights, only privilege at the discretion of the powerful. Unfortunately for you, the founders did and so although they were hypocrites, they claimed rights that they denied blacks they did indeed state that rights are not granted by men but by the "creator", which, if one doesn't believe in god, means that they just exist because we consider ourselves moral.
Your view is why conservatives do not deserve to live in a liberal society, they will always work to suppress rights that they don't agree with. Conservatives are the problem and always have been.
Wow you really do have an unhealthy fixation with "conservatives" don't you? Why on earth would you consider his comment to be a conservative stance? The argument against the existence of natural rights is actually far more likely to come from a non-religious, progressive stance than a conservative one.
Conservatives are far more likely to argue for rights granted by god, just as you have stated above. But your statement "if one doesn't believe in god, means that they just exist because we consider ourselves moral" is actually in complete agreement with what Benjamin wrote, you just don't seem to realize it. Ask yourself what the non-religious basis of morality is, and you will understand the problem of natural rights.
And do try to keep in mind that I agree with Benjamin, I am non-religious, and I am not a conservative, so don't try any petty name calling or pigeon-holing with me.
I am honest about conservatives, they are THE problem. Sure, libertarians, liberal extremists, have caused a great many problems due to their Objectivism, but they do not infringe on others' rights, except in preventing government from regulating in their interest.
Conservatives recognize only privilege in accordance with righteousness, there are no rights in their eyes.