I was hoping to see a post calling out the incredible inability of the press to act appropriately in reporting the facts of Rittehouse, in contrast with the amazingly measured response to Waukesha this week. Comparing and contrasting the reasonable response this week to the 15 months of hysterics and lying about Rittenhouse would be hilarious.
Here's a really weird thing I noticed (comparing early coverage of each in the NY Times): While the Rittenhouse reporting was peppered with references to race, the Brooks reporting is devoid of references to race. No idea why, but it struck me as odd.
Yeah, those two incidents are totally contextually parallel. Kenosha occurred at a protest about racial killings by police, and the other occurred at a Christmas parade, and the suspect is BLACK! Clearly black people have joined the war on christmas! Clearly everybody I dont like is in the comments section. How dumb can you fucking get.
Yeah, they wouldnt have written it that way because it took place at a racially charged protest, would they. Im not begging any questions from you. Im begging you to be less obtuse and motivated to victimize violent intentions.
Again, you are framing everything from the perspective of the NY Times. It's a "racially-charged protest" about "racial killings" -- because the NY Times has consistently made the decision to frame things that way.
The New York Times is not drawing a direct parrallel between murders committed at a protest against police violence against an ethnic group, and those that were committed at a fucking christmas parade. YOU dipshits are. Jesus, did nobody warn your mothers about vodka during pregnancy?
And all three of those Rittenhouse shot were white people, so how is what he did "racial"? The nature of the event is irrelevant to the discussion of news media deliberately playing the racism card to keep the "we're being taken over by fascist white supremacists" narrative alive. People were demanding the Waukesha event be called "terrorism" when it was just a really nasty felon known to be violent who shouldn't have been out on bail taking out his hatred on innocent people. If you want to address contextual issues, that's the one you should be using.
The suspect has a Leftist background; if he is guilty, his motive may be political. But even so not necessarily racial. If a white man kills a black man when he finds him in bed with his wife, this a crime of passion and not a racial crime,.
The suspect is a violent previous offender who's served time for various kinds of assault, including domestic violence. According to reports, he's anti-semitic to the extreme; that he also supports BLM doesn't give him a "leftist background" except in the fevered minds of Republibertarians. Period. Full stop.
As crimes, they stand alone. Each court case must be decided on its own merits, not in comparison to other cases. It is the "comparison" which is authoritarian, because the facts are always misrepresented. While I agree that the accusations against Trump were all lodged by people who themselves were actually guilty of the transgressions charged, that does not mean that each does not need to be considered alone. So, too, the Kenosha-Waukesha comparison.
I'm having trouble understanding what you mean. How is it authoritarian to compare the press' behavior in these two instances? In one, they incited as much ire as humanly possible, continuing to gets the facts of the case wrong, and emphasize parts that were most inflammatory. In another, they're reporting "just the facts" in the way that I really prefer my news to be delivered.
I'm not comparing court cases, or even the crimes, though Rittenhouse committed no crime... I'm comparing the headlines and the details being provided by every single major news outlet.
Bill Heath - Yours is the most mature reply/comment I’ve read in a long time by anyone (and Matt’s Substack articles generally attract far better comments than most online news and news commentary sites)! We need more of this kind of mature behavior so these sections can be a real discussion and learning tool for everyone, rather than just one more Twitter rant that nobody needs or wants. Happy holidays, friend.
I noticed you're a Doctor - physician, I assume, not an EdD like Jill Biden. I follow MEDCRAM and Medicine with Dr.Moran. I did med school in Germany right before the French and Indian war, and briefly practiced psychiatry there. That's 40 years ago. We had to return to the US for family reasons, and I couldn't take a year off to learn the English vocabulary and study for/take the US Boards, after which in my mid-forties I could compete for residencies with a bunch of people two decades younger than I.
I remembered enough to know China, then WHO, then Fauci was lying about the virus. Respiratory viruses become airborne, protect the old and the fat and then leave everybody else alone until you have more information. Outdoors beats indoors every time because vapor clouds are dispersed rapidly, and sunlight damages viruses. We had known that for more than a century. So we did the opposite. When Taiwan closed its borders on January 1 I grasped the problem instantly.
I was pilloried on internet fora, bounced from a bunch of platforms, abandoned by people I had thought were my friends.
I've always thought that changing one's opinion on a subject is simply what reasonable people do when they receive new information, or offered a new framework for understanding the issue.
I'm going to share here something I hope Matt doesn't mind. We spoke on the phone for 30-40 minutes recently because I had a framework to which he had never been exposed. He is a journalist - not a talking head or brainwashed partisan - who actively seeks out new and different frames of reference. A unicorn.
Unicorns are mythical creatures, products of more than 5,000 years of human imagination. They are not of this realm, and thus we are not privy to their real desires or motives.
"....Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?"
Depends what you were watching. Turned on Fox right after the Waukesha incident out of morbid curiosity and of course there was commentary speculating it was a “BLM/Antifa” terrorist attack
How is this even plausible? No one in Waukesha was involved in the Rittenhouse affair. It will be interesting to find out if the suspect (assuming that he is fact guilty) thought that way.
You mean that people who had no direct connection to nor knowledge of the empirical data, and claimed that anyone disagreeing with a single jot or tittle of their pronouncements from on high, need to know this or anything else? How shocking. I am aghast, I tell you. Simply aghast.
Did you actually watch the entire trial vs. the corporate msm and Dem bullshit?
The “ protesters” were all white, extremely violent with lenghthy criminal records, including attempted strangulation, assault, DUI w/ possession of illegal firearms, rape of 11 boys under the age of twelve, arson, armed robbery… to name a few. One of the white assailants was screaming at Rittenhouse, repeatedly telling him, “ I’m going to fucking kill you, ni**er!
The prosecutor broke every legal protocol, including withholding exculpatory evidence, pointing an AR rifle at the jury w/ his finger on the trigger, accusing Rittenhouse of wrongdoing by exercising his 5th amendment rights after being Mirandized and hiring an attorney, enhancing and altering photos,comparing Rittenhouse being savagely beaten w/ a skateboard ,drop kicked and the assailant trying to take the gun while he was on his back in the middle of the street to a “ bar fight” where you call it a night and go home.
To make matters worse, the prosecutor’s “star witnesses” testified against the prosecution! When the prosecutor said to the witness, “ I didn’t coach you or tell you to change your story”, the witness said, “ Yes, you did”. Another witness, Gauge something, who was shot in the arm was asked by the Defense, “ Did you have a gun pointed at Mr. Rittenhouse’s head?”, he answered, “ Yes, that would be correct”. He was also arrested two weeks prior on a second DUI and possession of an illegal firearm. Just prior to the trial, the prosector dropped the charges so they could be brought into evidence by the defense.
The weapon charge against Rittenhouse was dropped because the size was within legal parameters, Wisconsin law allows for open carry and the legal age to purchase a weapon is 17 .
The MSM named Rittenhouse a “ White Supremacist”, member of the “Proud Boys” ( he wasn’t and the boogeymen Proud Boys leader is Afro-latino and turns out, an FBI operative)
His mother didn’t drive him “ across state lines with a weapon. She was at home, sleeping. His father, sister, aunt, uncle, cousins, grandparents live in Kenosha. He works in Kenosha. He grew up in Kenosha. His best friend lives in Kenosha. The gun was in Kenosha.
And as the city burned down, law enforcement was nowhere in sight. So the 17 yr old, though way out of his league made the unwise decision of trying to be the adult in the room.
Meanwhile, all the focus has been on his having no right to be there, but not a peep as to to rioters, many of whom were from out of state.
The MSM, Biden and the Dems ratcheting up the narrative, the BLM/Antifa protesters were intimidating the jury, including George Floyd’s cousin from Minneapolis posting a video telling people he had the names and addresses of the jury.
The MSM and the Dems kept up the Jacob Blake skews narrative of him being unarmed and “killed” by the white cops. He was attempting to steal a. car and was waved a knife at the cops. Nor do they mention the cops had been called by his ex-girlfriend who had a restraining order against him for battery. He broke the restraining order and was attempting to strangle her. A real hero.
The “ protesters” were all white, extremely violent with lenghthy criminal records, including attempted strangulation, assault, DUI w/ possession of illegal firearms, rape of 11 boys under the age of twelve, arson, armed robbery… to name a few. One of the white assailants was screaming at Rittenhouse, repeatedly telling him, “ I’m going to fucking kill you, ni**er!"
Rioters who many of which were bussed in from out of state, and had a support staff of medics and supply line keepers. A steady stream of bricks on pallets placed in strategic locations. It's a bit wonderous isn't it?
Let's have more media coverage of the Epstein-Maxwell trial, instead and get into that trove of video and photos, the flight log of the Lolita Express, etc. That's much more interesting to me.
Or if that's too much trouble, have someone produce a "Stand Your Ground" reality TV show where "contestant-combatants" face off with the firearm of their choice at 300 meters and move ten meters closer after each miss until blood is shed.
- Does anybody have an update on punishment of two guards that "guarded" Epstein when he committed suicide or "suicide" ??
- And why after one full year none of at least five identified other people who pimped children for pedophile Epstein have not been indicted - only Maxwell so far? These other five would surely eagerly "sing" resolving the inconvenient truth about Bill Clinton and others....
Because the people who arranged the hand-jobs, and the people who delivered the hand-jobs, don't quite have the pull and reach, so to speak, of the people who received the hand-jobs.
Epstein was given “ CI” status by Robert Mueller. Epstein had ties to Bill Gates and was helping the CIA and Obama admin to interfere in the Israeli election to oust Netanyahu and reinstate Ehud Batak. Mueller issued the stand down order to Acosta, who was prosecuting the case. Barr was a plant. He’s Mueller’s best buddy.Trump fell for it. A Bush/Clinton cartel apparatchik
The priority now is to claim -- with absolute certainty -- that Waukesha parade massacre has NOTHING to do with Biden, corrupt DNC and corporate media lies and false reporting on Kyle Rittenhouse
And lost their jobs? (Actually, that whole jail is to be shut down - eventually.) Granted, that's compatible with letting them off lightly, especially if they were secretly paid to look the other way.
They were accused of sloppiness, of just not doing their jobs. That's extremely common; the usual penalty is dismissal. In this case, it led to someone's death, as negligence sometimes does.
I'd be even more concerned about the cameras not working, since that would conceal a murder. But it seems that very little works in that jail - the same one that had no heat in a cold snap about that time.
I'd be happy with a piece on the Virginia election....
I apparently have too much time on my hands and ended up on the NYT op-ed pages today. And an Eric Wemple Blog piece calling bullshit yet again on CNN.
Great point. Matt wrote a piece indicating that a longer Virginia piece was in the pulp and I haven't seen that piece yet (someone please let me know if I've overlooked it). I get it, he's a busy guy and is quite productive. But I would very much like to read his longer form take on that situation.
Yes that would be interesting. Another interesting investigation is how everyone in politics gets so filthy rich. Pelosi worth 315 million. There is bipartisan agreement on corruption
In our current state of evolution, power corrupts. So we already “know,” but it’s the details that that we need on record to convict. However, since the media is owned, they won’t cover them and when an Assange, Donziger, Snowden do reveal what’s behind the curtain, they are silenced. In our current incarnation it’s “Live it or live with it. “
Epstein didn’t commit suicide,was tied to Bill Gates and was a CI, free to to prey. Robert Mueller issued the stand down order to Acosta, who was prosecuting the. case
The strapline on this video—“Everybody in America you don't like, gathered in one place”—is poor journalism, and I think it violates the basic principles of TK News. If I’m reading this strapline correctly, it taints, even undermines, the great journalism of the video itself. Was this strapline meant as clickbait? Was it supposed to prep me to feel cringe for all the "idiots" outside the courthouse? Because, instead, except for a few exceptions, I was heartened by the mostly peaceful humanity of it all. I saw real people exercising their rights to speak and assemble. I even saw cops trying at least to de-escalate a potential pressure-cooker situation. It was almost like a textbook example of “The System” actually working, something I usually don’t even believe is possible.
I wish the journalism of the legacy media was half as good as this video in fairly portraying the many sides and opinions in the Rittenhouse case. I wish this was standard reporting on CNN and NBC News. But this strapline makes me realize (and worry) that those of us who are enthusiastic followers of TK News, and of Glenn Greenwald, and of the Grey Zone, and the Jimmy Dore Show, etc.—that we are in our own potentially flawed bubble, and that we are just as likely as any other group of humans to become holier-than-thou, pearl-clutching deranged tribalists who think we’re better than all the propagandized sheeple who disagree with us.
Hopefully, I'm just misreading or misunderstanding that strapline, but if not, then perhaps we're all due for a little self-critique.
I don't know, it didn't bother me at all. I'm tired of obnoxious know it all political activists, and yes that includes the ones backing positions I might agree with. They're no different to and just as toxic to society as religious extremists. Mobs of ideologically possessed muppets screeching bumper sticker slogans at each other does not create meaning discussion, and I wish they would all just take their meds and go get a real job.
You may think these people are there to get their point of view across, but that's not how I see it. I see a bunch of professional activists who are paid peanuts by the wealthy and powerful in order to create the illusion of public support for whatever agenda they are trying to advance.
Huxley wrote that a method of totalitarian tyranny is to use tools of propaganda that divided the nation. Most aligning with the propaganda being fed and everybody else as not human.
Seeing a pattern? The most glaring at the moment is the vaxxed vs. the un-vaxxed. Everything is an effort to divide, distract, conquer and control… while the country is at war with it’s neighbors, a far more nefarious plan is being enacted. Nobody is paying attention.
The people formerly known as reporters are the twenty-first centuries’ version of Ned Beatty’s character, Bobby Trippe, in “Deliverance”. Their handlers tell them to squeal like a pig, which they do.
The only difference is Beatty’s character didn’t enjoy it.
American media loved that protest circus. The protests they didn't love enough to even cover this passed weekend were the huge worldwide protests against vaccine mandates & passports.
Australia, Austria, Italy, Switzerland, Budapest, Scotland, etc. In Italy folks with green vaccine passes were burning them in solidarity.
I suspect that they're already preparing the obligatory "Look at these white supremacist, anti-vaxxer, Trump loving, anti-science idiots" speech they give when they see protests they don't like about subjects they're not paid to support in case America pulls its collective head out of its collective ass.
Luckily for the media many Americans seem to be gibbering idjits in clown makeup.
To steal from Deadbolt, "The only good clown is a dead clown."
I've said it before and will say it again; the best shit one will find on the TK News comment section is in the 0-1 like threads between unpopular participants who are likely drunk and/or high.
Sorry I'm not a better conversationalist. I've been engaging in the latter part of your inebriation poll. Nature's Prozac. Also been jamming. Sometimes I start to play to kill a 1/2 hour and when I surface 3 hours are gone.
I've been thinking about something Zappa said, probably because I'm high as fuck.
He said:
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
If you're into Deadbolt I will assume that you're also familiar with
Scary to think Maserati Mike used to be a police officer, guy seems unhinged. Well said about "Every person you never want to meet appeared to be present" lol.
Over 10 years ago (during Occupy) it was noted that large urban metropolitan police forces were recruiting the sociopathy-leaning members of the MPs in the armed forces. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
I watched TIN STAR and I was like "Haha, the whole premise of this show is preposterous. It is a ridiculous fiction."
Then I actually did some (extremely shallow) research and learned that Canada is so desperate for cops that you don't even have to be a Canadian citizen to be a Canadian cop. Permanent resident status is all you need to get into the Mounties.
There's lots of that going around. It's so bad that some soldiers in the US Army are technically not entitled to hear the orders they are following. They can't have clearances because they are noncitizens. They'll get that citizenship as a reward for serving a portion of their enlistment. It's actually the fastest way to get US citizenship I am aware of.
Luckily, at a tactical level, the rules are rarely followed.
I would say that the foreign born soldiers are at least as good and patriotic as the native-born, though that "must speak English" part is more aspirational than real. Most of the foreign born soldiers in the Army are from Hispanic countries and speak Spanish of some dialect as their mother tongue. Bilingual NCOs find themselves in demand. The idea of 5% of the Army being composed of people like that doesn't scare me as much as Blackwater.
The whole fear of mercenaries is that they aren't devoted to your cause when things look ugly. It's a worry with the foreign born, but an even bigger worry with the more formal mercenaries, the Blackwater-class people. I had experience with Triple Canopy, a Blackwater competitor, in Iraq. They supplied 5 former US special operators and 150 Ugandans. The Ugandans were pleasant and professional. That said, would they have turned their guns on us if the situation made that a condition of their survival? Maybe.
I've been a SETA (System Engineering/Technical Assistance) contractor my whole career working with the Army, though now technically I am more like a system integrator type. Anyway, bottom line is that people like me, along with the Rand and MITRE types, are just a class of US citizen who the government cannot attract either into uniform or within the existing appointed GS system due to relatively low salaries and bad work conditions, but need for their operations. They pay more for me than they would pay for 2 SES (special executive service, civilian equivalent to a general officer). Am I a loyalty risk? I dunno, I have the same clearance anyone else working in my field would have, i've been background investigated same as any soldier, and I love my country and have no foreign contacts of significance.
Did I worry about those Triple Canopy former US operators? No. They were loyal citizens. We did have a shitload of mercenaries over in Iraq though, and not all were like "Squirrel" and "Rooster", to name the handles a couple of those Triple Canopy folks rolled under.
It's a complicated situation, but the answer to your question is a qualified "yes". Maybe in the next war.
Also: most soldiers have no fucking idea how to run a computer. Seriously.
The technical MOS is mostly 25s and 17s in the Army. You won't find a 17 anywhere below a division. The 25s show up at brigade and battalion headquarters, though any 25 at a battalion HQ is going to be a 25U, which is a radio operator, mostly.
A 25B, which is the 'I theoretically know how to run computers' MOS, shows up at brigade HQ first, and there are only 7 soldiers in the S-6 (the commo section) at brigade.
Occasionally there is a smart enlisted in a unit; they are mostly identified when they take their ASVAB on intake and shoved into a high score MOS like intelligence or IT, but sometimes they are hiding in plain sight and you can use them to improve your IT.
Interestingly enough, one of the highest ASVAB requirements is for the 25S, which is a satellite operator. You have to do a little trig maybe to figure out look angles to the bird, though the DoD has systems that figure that shit out for you, and you carry a special kind of compass that does it also.
As someone pointed out on here once (sorta-kinda), it makes more sense to have trigger pullers than broom pushers. That said, soldiers still mow the officers' lawns and such, so that hasn't been abandoned.
The problem is that the incoming people are almost exclusively of that nature because anyone else reasonable got scared off. Seriously, would you want to be a cop on a city force nowadays, presuming you were starting out a career?
It’s just like what’s going on with politicians. Who would want to become a politician? It’s a loathsome bunch of people. What good ones want to get into that? Who has the stomach for it?
Among the materials obtained by extremely courageous break-in was a single file mentioning "COINTELPRO", a secret surveillance program that was run by J. Edgar Hoover. Subsequent investigations regarding COINTELPRO played an important role in the 1975 Church Committee.
The modern original sin is -- the Russia-gate hoax which has now further metastasized into "woke" insanity, censorship, white racism, Capital "armed insurrection", etc., etc.
All masking the incredible, all-encompassing surveillance under Obama and his CIA dominance. Obama is as repulsive and dangerous as Hoover ever was. His partnership with Bezos (WaPost is now CIA-controlled newspaper) is the latest illustration.
And -- a bit more on St. Obama and his CIA, FBI and NSA executives: Barack Obama was/is a spook (i.e., CIA operative/spy ), from a spook family, and his political campaigns were financed by spooks… ).
Snowden disclosed the all-encompassing surveillance of US population under St. Obama after Clapper directly lied about it in Senate and to all of us.
In 1965 CIA organized a coup against Indonesia founding president Sukarno by CIA-trained generals. The US considered Sukarno too progressive (he implemented land-reform – same reason for CIA coup in Guatemala which resulted with a genocide of high-land Mayas). CIA installed one of the most murderous military regime (under Suharto dictatorship) on Earth which killed more than two millions ( 2M ) civilians – the massacres are known as “The Jakarta Method” (see book by Vincent Bevins) used subsequently in Africa (Angola, Mozambique) and throughout Latin and Central America.
What is important here is that Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, worked for U.S. government agencies and allied NGOs—the Ford Foundation, Asia Foundation, Development Alternatives Inc., and United States Agency for International Development (USAID)—in Indonesia in the 1960s and 1970s as well as later in Ghana, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, and Thailand.
Obama’s mother married Indonesian Lt. Col. Lolo Soetoro; they had a daughter Maya Soetoro when Barack Obama was four. The colonel was from an aristocratic family which lost out in Sukarno’s land reform; the marriage was likely arranged, Obama’s mother may have acted as a female “honeypot” for the CIA whose job was to recruit assets
Obama always lied and claimed that his mother did not know about the countless atrocities that were committed by the Suharto government, which is implausible given her CIA background and the fact that they were much reported on by mainstream newspapers at the time (although mostly favorably by right-wing media). Of significance, Obama underplayed his stepfather Lolo’s army rank in his 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope.
Soetoro went on to become an executive at Mobil Oil and its liaison to Suharto, whose policies Obama’s mother praised. And – Obama became a labor and community “organizer” – while he actually worked for a large corporate foundation.
A Company Family: The Untold History of Obama and the CIA
By Jeremy Kuzmarov - October 1, 2021 ( Note: Photos themselves are truly fascinating )
A Company Family: The Untold History of Obama and the CIA - CovertAction Magazine
I am sorry you still have your blinders on and can't see that the SAME lying team is in full power and are extending the DNC-CIA scam of the century - the Russia-gate hoax
-- to divide the population with censorship and white racism
-- to hide the enormous and increasing income and capital gap and inequality (1% versus 99%).... Maybe you should discuss this further with your parents and "aunt" Martha -- I will cease my efforts ;-))
Everyone wants their 5 minutes of fame for being the most extreme activist out there. Doesn't seem much different from people acting a fool in front of the British guards, all that has changed is how far we're willing to go to get a reaction. Sensible people stayed home.
The problem is, in many cases, politicians enabled the violence, the media encouraged the violence, and state and local government, especially the police, stood down while the city was looted and burned. Sensible people staying home while cities burn and police stand-by helplessly by doesn't seem sensible to me.
Drama, drama, drama, and nobody cares about the facts. When did people become so selfish and disrespectful that they can’t even listen when other people speak? They have to shout over them to make their ideas disappear. Listening is more important than speaking, and a lot more important than yelling. “The second amendment is there to protect the first amendment” was an important part of this video, but did anybody listen to it?
I was hoping to see a post calling out the incredible inability of the press to act appropriately in reporting the facts of Rittehouse, in contrast with the amazingly measured response to Waukesha this week. Comparing and contrasting the reasonable response this week to the 15 months of hysterics and lying about Rittenhouse would be hilarious.
Here's a really weird thing I noticed (comparing early coverage of each in the NY Times): While the Rittenhouse reporting was peppered with references to race, the Brooks reporting is devoid of references to race. No idea why, but it struck me as odd.
No idea why?
Cue John Macenroe . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0hK1wyrrAU
The link got me something about tennis.
You can’t be serious. Did you watch it? LOL
It was vey famous for several decades as an iconic moment that lodged itself into popular culture. Perhaps a Boomer thing, admittedly.
Humor, Phil. Irony.
I noted the 50/50 spread of news sources identifying race (or not) in their lead sentences.
If there's no gun involved, it can't be racist.
Yeah, those two incidents are totally contextually parallel. Kenosha occurred at a protest about racial killings by police, and the other occurred at a Christmas parade, and the suspect is BLACK! Clearly black people have joined the war on christmas! Clearly everybody I dont like is in the comments section. How dumb can you fucking get.
You're begging the question:
The NY Times mentions race because it was a racial killing.
What makes it a racial killing?
Because the NY Times mentioned race.
Why did they mention race?
Because it was a racial killing.
Well said. When will people stop treating the NYT as the voice of God, rather than one biased media source among others?
Yeah, they wouldnt have written it that way because it took place at a racially charged protest, would they. Im not begging any questions from you. Im begging you to be less obtuse and motivated to victimize violent intentions.
FYI: begging the question = circular argument.
Again, you are framing everything from the perspective of the NY Times. It's a "racially-charged protest" about "racial killings" -- because the NY Times has consistently made the decision to frame things that way.
The New York Times is not drawing a direct parrallel between murders committed at a protest against police violence against an ethnic group, and those that were committed at a fucking christmas parade. YOU dipshits are. Jesus, did nobody warn your mothers about vodka during pregnancy?
Interesting how you focus completely on the event and not the person or their motives for both cases.
And all three of those Rittenhouse shot were white people, so how is what he did "racial"? The nature of the event is irrelevant to the discussion of news media deliberately playing the racism card to keep the "we're being taken over by fascist white supremacists" narrative alive. People were demanding the Waukesha event be called "terrorism" when it was just a really nasty felon known to be violent who shouldn't have been out on bail taking out his hatred on innocent people. If you want to address contextual issues, that's the one you should be using.
The suspect has a Leftist background; if he is guilty, his motive may be political. But even so not necessarily racial. If a white man kills a black man when he finds him in bed with his wife, this a crime of passion and not a racial crime,.
The suspect is a violent previous offender who's served time for various kinds of assault, including domestic violence. According to reports, he's anti-semitic to the extreme; that he also supports BLM doesn't give him a "leftist background" except in the fevered minds of Republibertarians. Period. Full stop.
As crimes, they stand alone. Each court case must be decided on its own merits, not in comparison to other cases. It is the "comparison" which is authoritarian, because the facts are always misrepresented. While I agree that the accusations against Trump were all lodged by people who themselves were actually guilty of the transgressions charged, that does not mean that each does not need to be considered alone. So, too, the Kenosha-Waukesha comparison.
I'm having trouble understanding what you mean. How is it authoritarian to compare the press' behavior in these two instances? In one, they incited as much ire as humanly possible, continuing to gets the facts of the case wrong, and emphasize parts that were most inflammatory. In another, they're reporting "just the facts" in the way that I really prefer my news to be delivered.
I'm not comparing court cases, or even the crimes, though Rittenhouse committed no crime... I'm comparing the headlines and the details being provided by every single major news outlet.
On reconsideration, I agree. We need to be able to change our opinions.
Bill Heath - Yours is the most mature reply/comment I’ve read in a long time by anyone (and Matt’s Substack articles generally attract far better comments than most online news and news commentary sites)! We need more of this kind of mature behavior so these sections can be a real discussion and learning tool for everyone, rather than just one more Twitter rant that nobody needs or wants. Happy holidays, friend.
I noticed you're a Doctor - physician, I assume, not an EdD like Jill Biden. I follow MEDCRAM and Medicine with Dr.Moran. I did med school in Germany right before the French and Indian war, and briefly practiced psychiatry there. That's 40 years ago. We had to return to the US for family reasons, and I couldn't take a year off to learn the English vocabulary and study for/take the US Boards, after which in my mid-forties I could compete for residencies with a bunch of people two decades younger than I.
I remembered enough to know China, then WHO, then Fauci was lying about the virus. Respiratory viruses become airborne, protect the old and the fat and then leave everybody else alone until you have more information. Outdoors beats indoors every time because vapor clouds are dispersed rapidly, and sunlight damages viruses. We had known that for more than a century. So we did the opposite. When Taiwan closed its borders on January 1 I grasped the problem instantly.
I was pilloried on internet fora, bounced from a bunch of platforms, abandoned by people I had thought were my friends.
I've always thought that changing one's opinion on a subject is simply what reasonable people do when they receive new information, or offered a new framework for understanding the issue.
I'm going to share here something I hope Matt doesn't mind. We spoke on the phone for 30-40 minutes recently because I had a framework to which he had never been exposed. He is a journalist - not a talking head or brainwashed partisan - who actively seeks out new and different frames of reference. A unicorn.
Unicorns are mythical creatures, products of more than 5,000 years of human imagination. They are not of this realm, and thus we are not privy to their real desires or motives.
"....Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?"
Not only measured; they left out facts embarrassing to the Left,
Would love to see Matt take a hard look at this asymmetric treatment.
I am not sure that everyone would agree with the characterization of Waukesha as being measured. Distorted might be a better description. Joe Rogan weighs in: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/watch-joe-rogan-eviscerates-media-reporting-waukesha-massacre-accident
Depends what you were watching. Turned on Fox right after the Waukesha incident out of morbid curiosity and of course there was commentary speculating it was a “BLM/Antifa” terrorist attack
If memory serves, Fox interviewed the head of BLM Wisconsin who justified Waukesha as payback for Kenosha.
How is this even plausible? No one in Waukesha was involved in the Rittenhouse affair. It will be interesting to find out if the suspect (assuming that he is fact guilty) thought that way.
You mean that people who had no direct connection to nor knowledge of the empirical data, and claimed that anyone disagreeing with a single jot or tittle of their pronouncements from on high, need to know this or anything else? How shocking. I am aghast, I tell you. Simply aghast.
He already wrote that post, last week.
I just posted a “ rebuttal” above
What is it a rebuttal to?
‘Everybody in America you don't like, gathered in one place’ Thanksgiving
From America's television coverage, straight to your living room!
I’ll be here all week opening for Boris
Did you actually watch the entire trial vs. the corporate msm and Dem bullshit?
The “ protesters” were all white, extremely violent with lenghthy criminal records, including attempted strangulation, assault, DUI w/ possession of illegal firearms, rape of 11 boys under the age of twelve, arson, armed robbery… to name a few. One of the white assailants was screaming at Rittenhouse, repeatedly telling him, “ I’m going to fucking kill you, ni**er!
The prosecutor broke every legal protocol, including withholding exculpatory evidence, pointing an AR rifle at the jury w/ his finger on the trigger, accusing Rittenhouse of wrongdoing by exercising his 5th amendment rights after being Mirandized and hiring an attorney, enhancing and altering photos,comparing Rittenhouse being savagely beaten w/ a skateboard ,drop kicked and the assailant trying to take the gun while he was on his back in the middle of the street to a “ bar fight” where you call it a night and go home.
To make matters worse, the prosecutor’s “star witnesses” testified against the prosecution! When the prosecutor said to the witness, “ I didn’t coach you or tell you to change your story”, the witness said, “ Yes, you did”. Another witness, Gauge something, who was shot in the arm was asked by the Defense, “ Did you have a gun pointed at Mr. Rittenhouse’s head?”, he answered, “ Yes, that would be correct”. He was also arrested two weeks prior on a second DUI and possession of an illegal firearm. Just prior to the trial, the prosector dropped the charges so they could be brought into evidence by the defense.
The weapon charge against Rittenhouse was dropped because the size was within legal parameters, Wisconsin law allows for open carry and the legal age to purchase a weapon is 17 .
The MSM named Rittenhouse a “ White Supremacist”, member of the “Proud Boys” ( he wasn’t and the boogeymen Proud Boys leader is Afro-latino and turns out, an FBI operative)
His mother didn’t drive him “ across state lines with a weapon. She was at home, sleeping. His father, sister, aunt, uncle, cousins, grandparents live in Kenosha. He works in Kenosha. He grew up in Kenosha. His best friend lives in Kenosha. The gun was in Kenosha.
And as the city burned down, law enforcement was nowhere in sight. So the 17 yr old, though way out of his league made the unwise decision of trying to be the adult in the room.
Meanwhile, all the focus has been on his having no right to be there, but not a peep as to to rioters, many of whom were from out of state.
The MSM, Biden and the Dems ratcheting up the narrative, the BLM/Antifa protesters were intimidating the jury, including George Floyd’s cousin from Minneapolis posting a video telling people he had the names and addresses of the jury.
The MSM and the Dems kept up the Jacob Blake skews narrative of him being unarmed and “killed” by the white cops. He was attempting to steal a. car and was waved a knife at the cops. Nor do they mention the cops had been called by his ex-girlfriend who had a restraining order against him for battery. He broke the restraining order and was attempting to strangle her. A real hero.
The “ protesters” were all white, extremely violent with lenghthy criminal records, including attempted strangulation, assault, DUI w/ possession of illegal firearms, rape of 11 boys under the age of twelve, arson, armed robbery… to name a few. One of the white assailants was screaming at Rittenhouse, repeatedly telling him, “ I’m going to fucking kill you, ni**er!"
White allies! With friends like these...
Rioters who many of which were bussed in from out of state, and had a support staff of medics and supply line keepers. A steady stream of bricks on pallets placed in strategic locations. It's a bit wonderous isn't it?
Phrases such as "...21st-century American political culture has become an ever-widening suckhole of cringe" leave me laughing through my tears.
Nobody tells it like you do, Matt.
How about, Twitter in real life. Every person you never want to meet appeared to be present...golden.
That video was excellent, on the scene journalism.
Will Biden, corrupt DNC leadership and corporate media be responsible for Kenosha parade massacre? We don't know yet but likely....
A Question:
All this emphasis on "woke" and white racism – is it to desperately avoid something else ?
-- Unprecedented income and capital gap, that is class inequality chasm ??
-- In addition to the modern "original sin" - DNC-CIA-state (corporate) media concocted Russia-gate hoax ??
Let's have more media coverage of the Epstein-Maxwell trial, instead and get into that trove of video and photos, the flight log of the Lolita Express, etc. That's much more interesting to me.
Or if that's too much trouble, have someone produce a "Stand Your Ground" reality TV show where "contestant-combatants" face off with the firearm of their choice at 300 meters and move ten meters closer after each miss until blood is shed.
And -- two more interesting topics/questions:
- Does anybody have an update on punishment of two guards that "guarded" Epstein when he committed suicide or "suicide" ??
- And why after one full year none of at least five identified other people who pimped children for pedophile Epstein have not been indicted - only Maxwell so far? These other five would surely eagerly "sing" resolving the inconvenient truth about Bill Clinton and others....
Because the people who arranged the hand-jobs, and the people who delivered the hand-jobs, don't quite have the pull and reach, so to speak, of the people who received the hand-jobs.
Aunt Martha -- it is time for you to go to bed rather than typing your "wisdom"
What makes you think that I'm not already in bed?
Epstein was given “ CI” status by Robert Mueller. Epstein had ties to Bill Gates and was helping the CIA and Obama admin to interfere in the Israeli election to oust Netanyahu and reinstate Ehud Batak. Mueller issued the stand down order to Acosta, who was prosecuting the case. Barr was a plant. He’s Mueller’s best buddy.Trump fell for it. A Bush/Clinton cartel apparatchik
Thanks - what is "CI" status?
Confidential informant..a police term for rat
Strange -- am I the only one in this group not to know that? ;-))
The guards faced considerable punishment,though I forget the details.
Actually - that is NOT true at all !!
Thank you Evan !!
The priority now is to claim -- with absolute certainty -- that Waukesha parade massacre has NOTHING to do with Biden, corrupt DNC and corporate media lies and false reporting on Kyle Rittenhouse
And lost their jobs? (Actually, that whole jail is to be shut down - eventually.) Granted, that's compatible with letting them off lightly, especially if they were secretly paid to look the other way.
They were accused of sloppiness, of just not doing their jobs. That's extremely common; the usual penalty is dismissal. In this case, it led to someone's death, as negligence sometimes does.
I'd be even more concerned about the cameras not working, since that would conceal a murder. But it seems that very little works in that jail - the same one that had no heat in a cold snap about that time.
Thank you for your clear thinking -- they were completely innocent... ;-))
And St. Obama should receive another Nobel prize
FBI and Edgar Hoover === CIA-FBI and St. Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Hayden === SAME despicable dangerous bastards
Your last sentence pretty much answers the question.
Dunno, they might prefer to be suicided by their own hands.
I'd be happy with a piece on the Virginia election....
I apparently have too much time on my hands and ended up on the NYT op-ed pages today. And an Eric Wemple Blog piece calling bullshit yet again on CNN.
Great point. Matt wrote a piece indicating that a longer Virginia piece was in the pulp and I haven't seen that piece yet (someone please let me know if I've overlooked it). I get it, he's a busy guy and is quite productive. But I would very much like to read his longer form take on that situation.
It's coming. Apologies, folks, it's a difficult one.
It has to be a mammoth job unpacking enough to make an outline
Yes that would be interesting. Another interesting investigation is how everyone in politics gets so filthy rich. Pelosi worth 315 million. There is bipartisan agreement on corruption
Apparently she just bought a $25 million mansion in Florida
Yep. Nice low tax state. Jupiter nice and clean and safe.
In our current state of evolution, power corrupts. So we already “know,” but it’s the details that that we need on record to convict. However, since the media is owned, they won’t cover them and when an Assange, Donziger, Snowden do reveal what’s behind the curtain, they are silenced. In our current incarnation it’s “Live it or live with it. “
Epstein didn’t commit suicide,was tied to Bill Gates and was a CI, free to to prey. Robert Mueller issued the stand down order to Acosta, who was prosecuting the. case
And there is a treasure trove of video and photos. Where are the whistle blowers when you really need them?
Dead!
And in prison.
I was hoping reality TV reached its peak horror with The Biggest Loser. It's amazing nobody died during that show.
Baby steps until we reach Civil War.
Baby steps until we reach Civil War.
Some studio will steal your idea now. Assuming they read this substack post.
I offer this idea freely!
Here’s the pilot for “Stand Your Ground (reality show)” https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-florida-woman-killed-road-rage-aggressor-pregnant-librarian-orange-city-20211125-53kkoroclfgf7nqjgpz3diaff4-story.html
There is a reason why all the attention was on this one, don't you think?
Gee… gonna have to think about that.
America is addicted to pseudo-outrage.
Correct ... while we are hurling to accidental or intentional nuclear war.
We're being urged toward a chaotic civil war so that the cunts who lost power can steal it back as the world burns all around.
If there's a Privilege issue here, it's all about US (share this on Instagram!)
The strapline on this video—“Everybody in America you don't like, gathered in one place”—is poor journalism, and I think it violates the basic principles of TK News. If I’m reading this strapline correctly, it taints, even undermines, the great journalism of the video itself. Was this strapline meant as clickbait? Was it supposed to prep me to feel cringe for all the "idiots" outside the courthouse? Because, instead, except for a few exceptions, I was heartened by the mostly peaceful humanity of it all. I saw real people exercising their rights to speak and assemble. I even saw cops trying at least to de-escalate a potential pressure-cooker situation. It was almost like a textbook example of “The System” actually working, something I usually don’t even believe is possible.
I wish the journalism of the legacy media was half as good as this video in fairly portraying the many sides and opinions in the Rittenhouse case. I wish this was standard reporting on CNN and NBC News. But this strapline makes me realize (and worry) that those of us who are enthusiastic followers of TK News, and of Glenn Greenwald, and of the Grey Zone, and the Jimmy Dore Show, etc.—that we are in our own potentially flawed bubble, and that we are just as likely as any other group of humans to become holier-than-thou, pearl-clutching deranged tribalists who think we’re better than all the propagandized sheeple who disagree with us.
Hopefully, I'm just misreading or misunderstanding that strapline, but if not, then perhaps we're all due for a little self-critique.
I don't know, it didn't bother me at all. I'm tired of obnoxious know it all political activists, and yes that includes the ones backing positions I might agree with. They're no different to and just as toxic to society as religious extremists. Mobs of ideologically possessed muppets screeching bumper sticker slogans at each other does not create meaning discussion, and I wish they would all just take their meds and go get a real job.
You may think these people are there to get their point of view across, but that's not how I see it. I see a bunch of professional activists who are paid peanuts by the wealthy and powerful in order to create the illusion of public support for whatever agenda they are trying to advance.
Huxley wrote that a method of totalitarian tyranny is to use tools of propaganda that divided the nation. Most aligning with the propaganda being fed and everybody else as not human.
Seeing a pattern? The most glaring at the moment is the vaxxed vs. the un-vaxxed. Everything is an effort to divide, distract, conquer and control… while the country is at war with it’s neighbors, a far more nefarious plan is being enacted. Nobody is paying attention.
The people formerly known as reporters are the twenty-first centuries’ version of Ned Beatty’s character, Bobby Trippe, in “Deliverance”. Their handlers tell them to squeal like a pig, which they do.
The only difference is Beatty’s character didn’t enjoy it.
American media loved that protest circus. The protests they didn't love enough to even cover this passed weekend were the huge worldwide protests against vaccine mandates & passports.
Australia, Austria, Italy, Switzerland, Budapest, Scotland, etc. In Italy folks with green vaccine passes were burning them in solidarity.
I suspect that they're already preparing the obligatory "Look at these white supremacist, anti-vaxxer, Trump loving, anti-science idiots" speech they give when they see protests they don't like about subjects they're not paid to support in case America pulls its collective head out of its collective ass.
Luckily for the media many Americans seem to be gibbering idjits in clown makeup.
To steal from Deadbolt, "The only good clown is a dead clown."
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANheNWSpjnw
Deep cut, man. Always a fan of "Tijuana Hit Squad" myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyaJTXEVomg
"Back at the hotel we drink El Presidente brandy."
Yeah, but who the hell is Mrs. Valdez?
Deadbolt songs are full of mysteries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGtAYd3AcBk
And power tools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-en_bS-d4Q
Holy shit. There's too much music.
You ever get into Caustic Resin/Brett Netson? "Someone Else": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLSPWaf-JY
I've said it before and will say it again; the best shit one will find on the TK News comment section is in the 0-1 like threads between unpopular participants who are likely drunk and/or high.
Never heard of him but I like it a lot so thanks.
Sorry I'm not a better conversationalist. I've been engaging in the latter part of your inebriation poll. Nature's Prozac. Also been jamming. Sometimes I start to play to kill a 1/2 hour and when I surface 3 hours are gone.
I've been thinking about something Zappa said, probably because I'm high as fuck.
He said:
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
If you're into Deadbolt I will assume that you're also familiar with
these purveyors of Holy Writ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyIoL1cgCsM
The guy with the Jesus poster in Portland in the video with Activism, Uncensored STILL makes the most sense of anyone in these videos...
"Stop. Just stop! Stop shooting people, it's not right! What are you thinking!"
Scary to think Maserati Mike used to be a police officer, guy seems unhinged. Well said about "Every person you never want to meet appeared to be present" lol.
Over 10 years ago (during Occupy) it was noted that large urban metropolitan police forces were recruiting the sociopathy-leaning members of the MPs in the armed forces. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
I watched TIN STAR and I was like "Haha, the whole premise of this show is preposterous. It is a ridiculous fiction."
Then I actually did some (extremely shallow) research and learned that Canada is so desperate for cops that you don't even have to be a Canadian citizen to be a Canadian cop. Permanent resident status is all you need to get into the Mounties.
There's lots of that going around. It's so bad that some soldiers in the US Army are technically not entitled to hear the orders they are following. They can't have clearances because they are noncitizens. They'll get that citizenship as a reward for serving a portion of their enlistment. It's actually the fastest way to get US citizenship I am aware of.
Luckily, at a tactical level, the rules are rarely followed.
https://immigrationforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/VNA-Fact-Sheet.pdf
Just read your fact sheet. Is it now possible to imagine a primarily mercenary U.S. Army sooner, rather than later?
I would say that the foreign born soldiers are at least as good and patriotic as the native-born, though that "must speak English" part is more aspirational than real. Most of the foreign born soldiers in the Army are from Hispanic countries and speak Spanish of some dialect as their mother tongue. Bilingual NCOs find themselves in demand. The idea of 5% of the Army being composed of people like that doesn't scare me as much as Blackwater.
The whole fear of mercenaries is that they aren't devoted to your cause when things look ugly. It's a worry with the foreign born, but an even bigger worry with the more formal mercenaries, the Blackwater-class people. I had experience with Triple Canopy, a Blackwater competitor, in Iraq. They supplied 5 former US special operators and 150 Ugandans. The Ugandans were pleasant and professional. That said, would they have turned their guns on us if the situation made that a condition of their survival? Maybe.
I've been a SETA (System Engineering/Technical Assistance) contractor my whole career working with the Army, though now technically I am more like a system integrator type. Anyway, bottom line is that people like me, along with the Rand and MITRE types, are just a class of US citizen who the government cannot attract either into uniform or within the existing appointed GS system due to relatively low salaries and bad work conditions, but need for their operations. They pay more for me than they would pay for 2 SES (special executive service, civilian equivalent to a general officer). Am I a loyalty risk? I dunno, I have the same clearance anyone else working in my field would have, i've been background investigated same as any soldier, and I love my country and have no foreign contacts of significance.
Did I worry about those Triple Canopy former US operators? No. They were loyal citizens. We did have a shitload of mercenaries over in Iraq though, and not all were like "Squirrel" and "Rooster", to name the handles a couple of those Triple Canopy folks rolled under.
It's a complicated situation, but the answer to your question is a qualified "yes". Maybe in the next war.
"Is it now possible to imagine a primarily mercenary U.S. Army sooner, rather than later?"
We already have it. Since the AVF, it's been a mercenary force-slash-New Deal style -obs program.
Used to be that, as a G.I., you pushed a broom.
Scut work is now privately contracted out at the expense of you, the taxpayer. G.I.s no longer push brooms. They stare at screens.
Also: most soldiers have no fucking idea how to run a computer. Seriously.
The technical MOS is mostly 25s and 17s in the Army. You won't find a 17 anywhere below a division. The 25s show up at brigade and battalion headquarters, though any 25 at a battalion HQ is going to be a 25U, which is a radio operator, mostly.
A 25B, which is the 'I theoretically know how to run computers' MOS, shows up at brigade HQ first, and there are only 7 soldiers in the S-6 (the commo section) at brigade.
Occasionally there is a smart enlisted in a unit; they are mostly identified when they take their ASVAB on intake and shoved into a high score MOS like intelligence or IT, but sometimes they are hiding in plain sight and you can use them to improve your IT.
Interestingly enough, one of the highest ASVAB requirements is for the 25S, which is a satellite operator. You have to do a little trig maybe to figure out look angles to the bird, though the DoD has systems that figure that shit out for you, and you carry a special kind of compass that does it also.
As someone pointed out on here once (sorta-kinda), it makes more sense to have trigger pullers than broom pushers. That said, soldiers still mow the officers' lawns and such, so that hasn't been abandoned.
*jobs* program
PDs definitely need to be careful of Paul Blart wannabes/recruits who want to be cops too much…
The problem is that the incoming people are almost exclusively of that nature because anyone else reasonable got scared off. Seriously, would you want to be a cop on a city force nowadays, presuming you were starting out a career?
It’s just like what’s going on with politicians. Who would want to become a politician? It’s a loathsome bunch of people. What good ones want to get into that? Who has the stomach for it?
The under-employed friends and family of wealthy political players??
Yes seems to be so.
FBI and Edgar Hoover === CIA-FBI and Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Hayden === SAME despicable dangerous bastards
Just watched "1971" (2014 documentary) -- overall message - CONTINUITY
Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI: 1971 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVcS4yGcSY
Among the materials obtained by extremely courageous break-in was a single file mentioning "COINTELPRO", a secret surveillance program that was run by J. Edgar Hoover. Subsequent investigations regarding COINTELPRO played an important role in the 1975 Church Committee.
And this has what to do with Matt's essay?
In short - A LOT !!
The modern original sin is -- the Russia-gate hoax which has now further metastasized into "woke" insanity, censorship, white racism, Capital "armed insurrection", etc., etc.
All masking the incredible, all-encompassing surveillance under Obama and his CIA dominance. Obama is as repulsive and dangerous as Hoover ever was. His partnership with Bezos (WaPost is now CIA-controlled newspaper) is the latest illustration.
And -- a bit more on St. Obama and his CIA, FBI and NSA executives: Barack Obama was/is a spook (i.e., CIA operative/spy ), from a spook family, and his political campaigns were financed by spooks… ).
Snowden disclosed the all-encompassing surveillance of US population under St. Obama after Clapper directly lied about it in Senate and to all of us.
In 1965 CIA organized a coup against Indonesia founding president Sukarno by CIA-trained generals. The US considered Sukarno too progressive (he implemented land-reform – same reason for CIA coup in Guatemala which resulted with a genocide of high-land Mayas). CIA installed one of the most murderous military regime (under Suharto dictatorship) on Earth which killed more than two millions ( 2M ) civilians – the massacres are known as “The Jakarta Method” (see book by Vincent Bevins) used subsequently in Africa (Angola, Mozambique) and throughout Latin and Central America.
What is important here is that Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, worked for U.S. government agencies and allied NGOs—the Ford Foundation, Asia Foundation, Development Alternatives Inc., and United States Agency for International Development (USAID)—in Indonesia in the 1960s and 1970s as well as later in Ghana, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, and Thailand.
Obama’s mother married Indonesian Lt. Col. Lolo Soetoro; they had a daughter Maya Soetoro when Barack Obama was four. The colonel was from an aristocratic family which lost out in Sukarno’s land reform; the marriage was likely arranged, Obama’s mother may have acted as a female “honeypot” for the CIA whose job was to recruit assets
Obama always lied and claimed that his mother did not know about the countless atrocities that were committed by the Suharto government, which is implausible given her CIA background and the fact that they were much reported on by mainstream newspapers at the time (although mostly favorably by right-wing media). Of significance, Obama underplayed his stepfather Lolo’s army rank in his 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope.
Soetoro went on to become an executive at Mobil Oil and its liaison to Suharto, whose policies Obama’s mother praised. And – Obama became a labor and community “organizer” – while he actually worked for a large corporate foundation.
A Company Family: The Untold History of Obama and the CIA
By Jeremy Kuzmarov - October 1, 2021 ( Note: Photos themselves are truly fascinating )
A Company Family: The Untold History of Obama and the CIA - CovertAction Magazine
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021/10/01/a-company-family-the-untold-history-of-obama-and-the-cia/
That's rich. You say, "A LOT", then you write a multi-paragraph diatribe that offers zero linkage to this essay. SDS, indeed.
I am sorry you still have your blinders on and can't see that the SAME lying team is in full power and are extending the DNC-CIA scam of the century - the Russia-gate hoax
-- to divide the population with censorship and white racism
-- to hide the enormous and increasing income and capital gap and inequality (1% versus 99%).... Maybe you should discuss this further with your parents and "aunt" Martha -- I will cease my efforts ;-))
Oranges are being discussed and you're throwing apples at us. Cut it out.
A lot of SDS here---spook derangement syndrome.
Dear Martha, see my response to John M. above. For an "aunt" you still have much to go and comprehend a lot...
I know, I know---I'm just anxious to get laid for the first time. Just ditched the bloomers and black cotton knee-highs.
I now identify as asexual.
Everyone wants their 5 minutes of fame for being the most extreme activist out there. Doesn't seem much different from people acting a fool in front of the British guards, all that has changed is how far we're willing to go to get a reaction. Sensible people stayed home.
The problem is, in many cases, politicians enabled the violence, the media encouraged the violence, and state and local government, especially the police, stood down while the city was looted and burned. Sensible people staying home while cities burn and police stand-by helplessly by doesn't seem sensible to me.
If they're dumb enough to try and set the courtroom on fire during Kyle's trial that's their problem.
Drama, drama, drama, and nobody cares about the facts. When did people become so selfish and disrespectful that they can’t even listen when other people speak? They have to shout over them to make their ideas disappear. Listening is more important than speaking, and a lot more important than yelling. “The second amendment is there to protect the first amendment” was an important part of this video, but did anybody listen to it?