No longer calling January 6th a "heinous attack," Trump commemorates "a truly incredible person," saying, "I offer my unwavering support to Ashli’s family."
Thanks for, as always, great journalism. It makes my stomach hurt when I read, "the worst act of political violence since the Civil War," having lived through the Timothy McVeigh Oklahoma City bombing. I didn't experience it but I was alive back then. If they think a riot at the Capitol is the worst violence they've seen, they don't remember the Summer of 2020. I guess they don't remember it because it wasn't shown to them. It was simply put in a blender and spun as "peaceful reckoning." But I think blowing up a Federal Building to protest the government, with children in day care dead, is something we all seem to have forgotten.
Also the attempted assassination of 5 congressmen (bipartisan attack) by Puerto Rican nationalists in 1954. And the attempted assassination of Harry Truman (1 White House police officer killed) by the same group in 1950. Wall Street bombing 1920, 40 killed and hundreds injured. Fraunces Tavern bombing 1975, 4 killed. Weather Underground bombings, and on and on.
There are countless acts of political violence in the US that are way worse than January 6.
I am frustrated because I had to take a phone call a few minutes ago - I wanted to post this first.
That said, how does even an organization as reprehensible as CNN allow something so easily refuted to be broadcast? While it may be just purely a case of not caring about the truth but my gut tells me that they are literally so ill informed and clueless that they literally don't know how wrong they are.
They would have to be morons with an IQ of 40 to not know in their own warped mind that they are peddling blatant propaganda designed to further delude the retarded sheep in this country.
CNN, like any of the other networks of any party affiliation or political bent are profit oriented. No different than the old (and current) tabloid style papers like the NY Post and National Enquirer. They will be as sensational as they believe their target audience to whom their advertisers are catering will let them be and they'll continually push boundaries in order to carve out greater viewership/clicks just like any typical social media "influencer" or YouTube/TikTok "celebrity."
TL/DR: It's all about the Benjamins and not at all about the truth even if they happen to accidentally tell the truth occasionally.
Too many Indian massacres to count as well, and they *were* political. The internment of the Japanese, the Tulsa race massacre; there is a political element to all of them. Killing of multiple Presidents, shooting of a Congresswoman, attempted shooting of Republican members of Congress.
January 6th was pretty bad, but really not comparable to any of those things or of course 9/11, the causes and perpetrators of which the public is still not fully apprised.
Honestly just not that bad. Lives lost we’re only among the demonstrators. Minimal property damage. No one was armed. Can you imagine a large group of Trump supporters who really wanted to create destruction? Most of us own weapons. This country’s institutions must be razed. The FBI/CIA etc are corrupt beyond redemption. We cannot have two tiers of justice. We cannot persecute parents concerned about their schools. Historically you can only push people so far.
THERE WAS ZERO VIOLENCE AT THE CAPITOL EXCEPT THE SHOOTING OF THIS WOMAN. I don’t agree with what she did and I think a cop would’ve been justified bopping her on the head as she squeezed through the opening. But no one even brought a weapon into the Capitol. This was a police murder.
There was some violence but not much of it. Of course those are the images repeated in the dishonest media. Mostly it was just civil disobedience. Much much less disobedient that what the media celebrates for the left. And none of those protestors that entered the building that they the people own had weapons.
The media chattering class hypocrisy over this compared to the previous 2 years of BLM and Antifa violent rioting is frankly breathtaking.
Oh, there was definitely violence. Let's not deny reality.
The issue here is the dishonest and divergent coverage of this event vs all of the other similar acts of mob violence that happened all across the country, which is downright infuriating. The most infuriating aspect of the whole thing is that several members of congress didn't give a damn about the thousands of people that were in the same position during the George Floyd riots that they were in that day, but this doesn't stop them from waxing poetic about how "traumatic" it was for them. Apparently they are under the delusion that Americans should care more about how they feel than our fellow citizens, which is ass backwards. Spare me. This is compounded by the fact that most of the very same people are a bunch of war hawks that have zero issue with creating chaos in 3rd world countries at 1000X the level of magnitude of J6. Our military just ordered a drone strike that killed 7 innocent Afghan children, and the apology from the ones that actually deigned to acknowledge it was largely limited to a "whoopsie!"
Sorry but which legislators in which states/municipalities were actually targeted and attacked during the George Floyd protests? I don't recall any threats against legislatures or governors either except coming from the right (but many likely engineered by the FBI as they've been doing for decades with leftist, black, Muslim, etc. groups that they frame up for alleged attempted terrorism). So I'm genuinely curious as to who was in the same position as the members of Congress were on Jan 6 during 2020.
If I may, I believe the point Kaylea was making was that our leaders didn’t care about those constituents affected by the riots during 2020, but got all dramatic about the j6 kerfuffle. And no, AOC, you weren’t there.
Over 140 police injured according to police unions... One officer killed during the attack. Last time I checked, police unions weren't "left"leaning organizations. If you want to feel bad for Ashli Babbitt go ahead, but she pushed the envelope on that day and lost.
John, you should be on Ashli Babbitt's side. How is trespassing any worse than passing a counterfeit $20 bill (George Floyd's crime)? Neither one deserved to die for what they did. And please for the millionth time officer Brian Siknik died of an aneurysm after the riot was over, not from any violence and not during the riot.
I should be on her side? We are all going to be on her side one day, 6 ft in the f****** ground. I swear belief in Politics should be classified along with Religion as a type of mental illness.
Rlly??? Trespassing is as bad as passing (perhaps unknowingly?) a counterfeit $20 bill?
Now do I think deadly violence was needed in either case? Definitely not, but the two incidents were hardly even comparable other than that two people died.
Liar. Flat-out liar. Not one single officer was killed that day. Not one. People had heart attacks and god knows what other medical calamity. No one was killed except Ashli Babbit.
Did you notice how he used passive voice: “one officer killed in the attack….” Passive voice is the telltale of a weak argument. But he had to use passive voice because he knew it would be a manifest prevarication to write something like, “the rioters killed one officer….”
Please point out which one of the deaths at the Capitol on 1/6/2021 is the "officer" you mention. Benjamin Phillips, 50, from Greentown, Pennsylvania; Kevin Greeson, 55, from Athens, Alabama; and Roseanne Boyland, 34 of Kennesaw, Georgia.
LOL. You apparently don't understand that violence can be committed by multiple parties and individuals either acting in concert with a specified goal or simply taking advantage of a situation. The correct way to phrase it with the BLM/Floyd protests is that the *VAST* majority *STARTED OFF* peacefully and that the MAJORITY stayed that way, but the ones that didn't were characterized by all sorts of different violence. Looting by opportunists, genuine attempted property damage by left, right and anarchists, shootings of police, of protestors, of innocent bystanders and violence committed BY police in response to the INITIALLY peaceful demonstrations. In fact, I'd argue the latter - based on my own anecdotal experience and what I've heard from others - is what sparked the VAST majority of the violence that year. In cases where police allowed demonstrators a certain degree of hands-off treatment, most of those demonstrations never saw any violence. In other cases where the police took a heavy hand against protestors early in the demonstrations, that's where you saw things devolve into chaos and violence. Of course there are always exceptions and opportunists which are in the minority in any social movement protests, and there are also always police, ATF, and FBI infiltrators which are also a minority.
I really don't understand how anyone could just wave their hand and say, literally, 100% of the George Floyd protests were 'violent' as though 1) they actually were (they weren't) and 2) "violence" is just one big bucket into which all sorts of actions and actors can be lumped to make a political point - which is what you're doing.
Oh they know. Anyone that lives in a major city experienced it and was shaken, and this is the majority of liberals.
They just ignore it, minimize it, lie about it for the "greater good". They euphemistically call this "asset framing"....no kidding. Like why talk about the riots, fires and violence when 98% of demonstrations were peaceful.
"Oh they know. Anyone that lives in a major city experienced it and was shaken, and this is the majority of liberals."
The majority of big cities including the ones where there was protesting/rioting/looting/targeting of law enforcement (by right and left) are populated primarily by what any reasonable person would call "liberals" including myself, having lived in a city with its own BLM/George Floyd demonstrations (none of which turned violent other than an out-of-towner Trump supporter shooting a protestor who was open carrying). There was no property damage and nobody I know is scarred or shaken from it. I would guess the sentiment is the same in the majority of other cities with a few exceptions including certain areas of Minneapolis, Seattle and New York.
I know the topic is the January 6th incident, but the truth is that *most* if not the majority of the George Floyd protests were non-violent and that the property damage and looting were primarily motivated by poverty, the pandemic (lockdowns, loss of jobs, loneliness) and the overly harsh response of police to the initially completely non-violent gatherings.
"The storming at the capitol was Lexington and Concord. It was Bunker Hill, It was the shot heard round the world. It was the blood that nourishes the Tree of Liberty. The right to vote freely in a Republic is worthy of all of this angst, all of the rage, and all of the tears."
History will record that those who confronted our politicians on that day were completely justified. And if I had been there I would have happily joined in the storming of the castle.
Remember that the second impeachment effort was because President Trump supposedly called for violence.
Great points. What is forgotten is this was all about a manifestly corrupt election. We are losing our God given rights. We may have to fight harder to get them back
History will do none of those things. They committed an insurrection in order to try to stop a completely legitimate and normal handing off the Presidency from Trump to Biden. The election was completely valid, with Trump losing 67 of 68 court cases around it. And had you been there you hopefully would not have been stupid enough to do any such thing. But you keep on keeping on with your delusion.
Anyone who knows me well, including my husband and kids, know that if I had been at the Capitol on January 6th I would have joined in.
I would have organized a group to sing patriotic hymns outside the Senate chamber to remind the politicians to not certify an election that was certified by States that made last minute rule changes, in violation of the United States Constitution.
You should get out a bit Bob and talk to those who witnessed fraud in real time. I have been listening to their testimonies for months and the fact is that President Trump absolutely won the election...easily.
Why don't any of you remember the cop screaming in the door way? Also chanting hang mike pence? Trumps audit done in AZ found more votes for Biden. The drama king loves his reality show, except there's no paid apprenti reship at the end just his contestants paying him for a bit part in this American tradegy.
I saw the young officer get squished. Like I said, ALL of the angst over the election fraud is worthy of all of this seemingly pointless rising up in righteous indignation and rage.
A huge group of mostly men yelled out with their actions that they were not going to sit quietly while the ruling class stole another election.
Check your assumptions on the Arizona forensic audit proving Biden won. That was how the media cynically interpreted the results.
And yet, we're supposed to believe that the "electoral dysfunction" was *ALL* in favor of Biden and not only that, but that it was all coordinated as a conspiracy. Sorry, that's a bridge way too far.
A few things bear noting here. During the past 100 years or more, there has been election "tampering" in the form of gerrymandering, voter suppression, overzealous voter ID laws, intimidation, under-staffing or not having enough voting machines, and in the case of Bush v. Gore, a partisan activist SCOTUS decision on party lines to cancel a recount in Florida where Bush's brother had played a key role in stopping it. In the Bush v. Kerry election there was serious malfeasance and conflict of interest at play in Ohio.
Also, Trump's White House commissioned a study on voter fraud well before the election of 2020 and its findings were, let's just say, underwhelming. In fact, numerous instances - if not the majority - of vote fraud cases involved votes in favor of Donald Trump in 2016. In none of the cases were there enough to change the outcome of any election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Advisory_Commission_on_Election_Integrity
I understand that the entrenched corporate oligarchy and old money aristocracy have long tentacles and control the media narratives - both "left" and right. I also understand that on most issues (not including abortion and social safety net or environment) we are presented with a fake choice between the Red warmongers and the Blue warmongers who both serve the same aforementioned corporate/aristocratic elite and the interests of big, big money and the 0.01%.
But when you do a deep dive on all of Trump's accusations of fraud, in every case I've seen, you turn up nothing. I'm fully willing to believe that the voting machines are hackable and have "back doors" either individually or in the tallying systems, but when the first thing I hear is that Venezuela (a huge demon to the American right and center Democrats) was changing the election in Biden's favor, I couldn't help but think back to when the center Democrats and most mainstream media were trying to tell us that Russia hacked the election in Trump's favor. It's utter bullshit in both cases.
I will NEVER forget sitting and watching in real time as Trump was very comfortably ahead, cruising to an easy victory, when counting in five states simultaneously stopped. Right then I knew it was rigged and over. No one has been able to adequately explain that to me.
Right, because Trump encouraged all his supporters to vote in person not by mail, so the mail in votes skewed towards Democrats. That's why it happened this way. Trump lost. Biden won. Might want to get over it and stop being completely delusional.
Over a MILLION in Pennsylvania. It is all going to bust out past the gatekeepers... I think Mastriano would be a wonderful Secretary of State. His leadership and courage has been amazing to witness.
I know, it makes me also feel sad for our society. The fact that people not only compare January 6th to OKC bombing and 9/11, but they equate or act like January 6th is worse; and it's socially acceptable to say this.
In reality, January 6th was a trespassing event and riot that caused less damage than many riots over the summer. The only reason the media makes it out to be so horrible is because the trespassers defied Kween Kamala.
* A variety of bombings and other violent acts committed by the left wing terrorist organization known as the Weatherman, also known as Weathermen and later the Weather Underground Organization, from 1969 through the 1970s. Their acts were overtly political.
Please expand. How was it a color revolution in the same way as the US government and NGOs engineer them in places like Belarus and Ukraine and to some extent Syria and the greater middle east? By what metrics or indicators were the 2020 Floyd protests a state "sanctioned" color revolution and what political changes that were demanded by this "state" actually occurred? I'm genuinely curious. Like what was the goal and what was accomplished at the end of it all?
Should we mention all the lefty roaches that came out of the woodwork for George Floyd? Or the fact that the Democratic leadership knelt for 9 minutes in the rotunda with kente cloths around their necks to support a dangerous criminal, drug addict, drug dealer, car thief - talk about heinous; that was heinous.
I applaud Donald Trump for standing up for Ashli Babbitt. If he would have been president, that cop that shot her would have to pay. But instead we're living in a alternate universe where good is bad and lying is the norm, and the tyrants in the WH and Congress, with the help of the corporate media, are turning the screws on patriotic americans.
The extrajudicial execution of anyone, even if you think he's a "dangerous criminal" is fucking heinous because he wasn't being a "dangerous criminal" when he was executed. Ashli, not so much.
I'm getting really sick of the Trump Trolls on here.
You sound like just the kind of cuck we’ve come to expect when anyone brings up Floyd. The guy shouldn’t have died, but the moron had the better part of half an hour to just get in the fucking cop car! At one point in the video he even says “put me back on the ground!”.
Yep. Watch the whole video. He died of a fentanyl overdose. I work in an inner city ER. See big violent strung out folks like this all the time. Pretty scary.
Neither of these people were acting in a manner that required deadly force. I don't think we should tolerate police brutality and excessive use of force just because the victim is not in our political tribe.
Yup. If it took the riot on the 6th for people to learn that our state murders its people, they'd been actively ignoring the hundreds of extra-judicial killings the cops perpetrate yearly. In other words: they're only capable of empathy if their politics align with the victim. I think you had to be a real dim bulb to be at that Jan 6 riot, but that certainly doesn't mean Babbitt shoulda been shot.
Of course how you arrive at death is relevant. For instance, trespassing isn't cause for death. Resisting arrest and attempting escape, for instance after driving around beyond wasted with COVID, putting innocent people in immediate harms way....well play stupid games win stupid prizes.
That aside, you should try and make a point once without cussing. You'd look more intelligent.
Neither were dangerous criminals. Yes one was committing a crime and was no angel either. The other was knelt on in a more unjustified killing. I'll admit that about both Ashli Babbitt and George Floyd.
Still, the shooting was not a "righteous kill" as the media claims and if it happened to an antifa protestor, there would be hell to pay.
Adolph Reed predicts the backlash to woketard liberals will be a Holocaust. I agree. I don’t think blacks will be the target though. I think a lot of frantic Twitter deletions are coming.
I love Adolph Reed and I need to hear more of his work. I can't say his wrong. Let's pray that if there is a violent backlash to wokeism, it targets the intellectuals and not any children.
The punishment did not fit the crime and this has nothing to do with Trump. Get your TDS checked along with your antibodies dude, dude, you're not healthy.
Not really. Some of us are recovering former Democrats who've seen Burrrrnie, AOC, Ilhan, and The Squad poison politics with their Marxist blathtering.
Do you ever consider the blatant hypocrisy of excusing the extrajudicial killing of George Floyd - an illegal act perpetrated by those sworn to uphold the law - on the basis that Floyd committed criminal acts?
This outrage over the support of Floyd rings hollow when it comes from those who implicitly or explicitly justify, or at least minimize, the most morally repugnant and serious crime in US law.
These appeals to law and order - expressed through the mantra “the law is the law” - seem disingenuous at best, and to be subterfuge for much more sinister ideology rooted in the ignorance and hatred of white supremacy.
Floyd died from fentanyl. I do think they should have started CPR sooner. He was not killed. Ashli was murdered in cold blood while surrounded by police ifficers
Lol get the fuck out of here. “That knee on his neck for 9 minutes had nothing to don with it!! Chaivin was clearly convicted due to nothing but Floyd’s own drug use.” What a tragically delusional take. Keep excusing murder, though.
And yes, I think the murder of AB was wrong. See how easy that is?
You’re literally just making that up. We can all see the video and the pictures, including that one picture y’all like to circulate with the red circle around Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s neck that you say is proof that it’s on his shoulder. Quit your bullshit.
If Trump had won, the “insurrection” would have come from the Democrat’s side. I doubt anybody would have been shot, though, based on the protests of the summer.
do you realize how many people died as a result of the summer protests? 25 deaths, 604 arrests, an estimated $550 million in property damage to 1,500 locations. now tell me 1/06 was worse? #libtards
It is odd to think that a cop just smoked Babbitt and went on TV bragging about how he had no legal justification to shoot an unarmed veteran with no criminal record.
The same politicians who cheered cities being burned, including many mob beatings and murders, in the name of a multi-deadbeat dad who shoved a pistol in a fetus during a home invasion, then proceeded to drive around on a cocktail of drugs and COVID moments before his death, are silent.
The hypocrisy is appalling and noxious, whatever one's politics are.
Also odd, as more and more information has been delivered to the masses' fingertips, the gaslighting has only gotten more and more shameless and dirty.
Almost like they are testing how far it can go before people hit their limit. We have to be getting close.
There's no limit. Algorithms determine what will keep you enraged, I mean engaged, and continue to serve it up to keep those staring at the small screen in your pocket or the big screen in the living room. Gotta keep the cha-ching rolling! Hunter's laptop - $$. Branch Covidian groupthink - $$$$. Merck marking up therapeutic 40x above cost. $$$$$$$
Thanks for, as always, great journalism. It makes my stomach hurt when I read, "the worst act of political violence since the Civil War," having lived through the Timothy McVeigh Oklahoma City bombing. I didn't experience it but I was alive back then. If they think a riot at the Capitol is the worst violence they've seen, they don't remember the Summer of 2020. I guess they don't remember it because it wasn't shown to them. It was simply put in a blender and spun as "peaceful reckoning." But I think blowing up a Federal Building to protest the government, with children in day care dead, is something we all seem to have forgotten.
Worst act of political violence since the Civil War?
What the fuck was 9/11? Redecorating via airliner?
Never mind the assassinations of three fucking presidents.
Lol - rite?
Also the attempted assassination of 5 congressmen (bipartisan attack) by Puerto Rican nationalists in 1954. And the attempted assassination of Harry Truman (1 White House police officer killed) by the same group in 1950. Wall Street bombing 1920, 40 killed and hundreds injured. Fraunces Tavern bombing 1975, 4 killed. Weather Underground bombings, and on and on.
There are countless acts of political violence in the US that are way worse than January 6.
I am frustrated because I had to take a phone call a few minutes ago - I wanted to post this first.
That said, how does even an organization as reprehensible as CNN allow something so easily refuted to be broadcast? While it may be just purely a case of not caring about the truth but my gut tells me that they are literally so ill informed and clueless that they literally don't know how wrong they are.
They aren't stupid, they're evil.
They would have to be morons with an IQ of 40 to not know in their own warped mind that they are peddling blatant propaganda designed to further delude the retarded sheep in this country.
If only they didn’t know. They know. They are evil liars.
CNN, like any of the other networks of any party affiliation or political bent are profit oriented. No different than the old (and current) tabloid style papers like the NY Post and National Enquirer. They will be as sensational as they believe their target audience to whom their advertisers are catering will let them be and they'll continually push boundaries in order to carve out greater viewership/clicks just like any typical social media "influencer" or YouTube/TikTok "celebrity."
TL/DR: It's all about the Benjamins and not at all about the truth even if they happen to accidentally tell the truth occasionally.
Too many Indian massacres to count as well, and they *were* political. The internment of the Japanese, the Tulsa race massacre; there is a political element to all of them. Killing of multiple Presidents, shooting of a Congresswoman, attempted shooting of Republican members of Congress.
January 6th was pretty bad, but really not comparable to any of those things or of course 9/11, the causes and perpetrators of which the public is still not fully apprised.
On 9/11, some people did something
And that's truthfully about all we REALLY know. LOL
Honestly just not that bad. Lives lost we’re only among the demonstrators. Minimal property damage. No one was armed. Can you imagine a large group of Trump supporters who really wanted to create destruction? Most of us own weapons. This country’s institutions must be razed. The FBI/CIA etc are corrupt beyond redemption. We cannot have two tiers of justice. We cannot persecute parents concerned about their schools. Historically you can only push people so far.
THERE WAS ZERO VIOLENCE AT THE CAPITOL EXCEPT THE SHOOTING OF THIS WOMAN. I don’t agree with what she did and I think a cop would’ve been justified bopping her on the head as she squeezed through the opening. But no one even brought a weapon into the Capitol. This was a police murder.
There was some violence but not much of it. Of course those are the images repeated in the dishonest media. Mostly it was just civil disobedience. Much much less disobedient that what the media celebrates for the left. And none of those protestors that entered the building that they the people own had weapons.
The media chattering class hypocrisy over this compared to the previous 2 years of BLM and Antifa violent rioting is frankly breathtaking.
You know what else is breathtaking?
A gallows.
Oh, there was definitely violence. Let's not deny reality.
The issue here is the dishonest and divergent coverage of this event vs all of the other similar acts of mob violence that happened all across the country, which is downright infuriating. The most infuriating aspect of the whole thing is that several members of congress didn't give a damn about the thousands of people that were in the same position during the George Floyd riots that they were in that day, but this doesn't stop them from waxing poetic about how "traumatic" it was for them. Apparently they are under the delusion that Americans should care more about how they feel than our fellow citizens, which is ass backwards. Spare me. This is compounded by the fact that most of the very same people are a bunch of war hawks that have zero issue with creating chaos in 3rd world countries at 1000X the level of magnitude of J6. Our military just ordered a drone strike that killed 7 innocent Afghan children, and the apology from the ones that actually deigned to acknowledge it was largely limited to a "whoopsie!"
Additionally we do not know how heavily the FBI was involved in January 6. They may have done the “heavy lifting”
Sorry but which legislators in which states/municipalities were actually targeted and attacked during the George Floyd protests? I don't recall any threats against legislatures or governors either except coming from the right (but many likely engineered by the FBI as they've been doing for decades with leftist, black, Muslim, etc. groups that they frame up for alleged attempted terrorism). So I'm genuinely curious as to who was in the same position as the members of Congress were on Jan 6 during 2020.
Agree with all of the rest. Cheers.
If I may, I believe the point Kaylea was making was that our leaders didn’t care about those constituents affected by the riots during 2020, but got all dramatic about the j6 kerfuffle. And no, AOC, you weren’t there.
zero violence lol, that violence goalpost gets moved so much it's meaningless now
Yes, you do that. List convictions for violent offenses? Name incidents of violence?
*barf*
Over 140 police injured according to police unions... One officer killed during the attack. Last time I checked, police unions weren't "left"leaning organizations. If you want to feel bad for Ashli Babbitt go ahead, but she pushed the envelope on that day and lost.
John, you should be on Ashli Babbitt's side. How is trespassing any worse than passing a counterfeit $20 bill (George Floyd's crime)? Neither one deserved to die for what they did. And please for the millionth time officer Brian Siknik died of an aneurysm after the riot was over, not from any violence and not during the riot.
I should be on her side? We are all going to be on her side one day, 6 ft in the f****** ground. I swear belief in Politics should be classified along with Religion as a type of mental illness.
Rlly??? Trespassing is as bad as passing (perhaps unknowingly?) a counterfeit $20 bill?
Now do I think deadly violence was needed in either case? Definitely not, but the two incidents were hardly even comparable other than that two people died.
Liar. Flat-out liar. Not one single officer was killed that day. Not one. People had heart attacks and god knows what other medical calamity. No one was killed except Ashli Babbit.
You're pushing an envelope now. Just so you know.
I have seen reports of another woman essentially stomped to death by the police that day and they wouldn’t allow any one to help her
no officer was killed during the attack.
Did you notice how he used passive voice: “one officer killed in the attack….” Passive voice is the telltale of a weak argument. But he had to use passive voice because he knew it would be a manifest prevarication to write something like, “the rioters killed one officer….”
"One officer killed during the attack". REALLY???
Please point out which one of the deaths at the Capitol on 1/6/2021 is the "officer" you mention. Benjamin Phillips, 50, from Greentown, Pennsylvania; Kevin Greeson, 55, from Athens, Alabama; and Roseanne Boyland, 34 of Kennesaw, Georgia.
"The Capitol riots occurred on January 6 and there were *not any officers who died that day*." https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/20/jen-psaki-states-officers-died-january-6-capitol-riot/ You must be thinking of comments by Joe Biden and Jen Psaki that were blatantly false.
Brian Sicknick died of a stroke, but not on January 6th and not by a fire extinguisher wielded by 'insurrectionists' either.
Four officers *did* die by suicide after the riot. Whether that was because they sympathized with the rioters or felt that they didn't do their jobs is probably debatable. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/third-d-c-officer-who-responded-capitol-riot-dies-suicide-n1275740
No police officer killed during attack. Usually don’t get murdered for trespassing. Unjust.
Killed by... a fire extinguisher?
Have you been frozen for the last year?
love how those people forgot one police officer was brutally killed and several committed suicide.
no officer was brutally killed. If you honestly believe that you have zero business posting on this topic.
Nope. No police officer killed. I hope you are just misinformed and not lying
^^^ Retard
Is property damage violence or not?
So you admit 100% of George Floyd protests were violent?
LOL. You apparently don't understand that violence can be committed by multiple parties and individuals either acting in concert with a specified goal or simply taking advantage of a situation. The correct way to phrase it with the BLM/Floyd protests is that the *VAST* majority *STARTED OFF* peacefully and that the MAJORITY stayed that way, but the ones that didn't were characterized by all sorts of different violence. Looting by opportunists, genuine attempted property damage by left, right and anarchists, shootings of police, of protestors, of innocent bystanders and violence committed BY police in response to the INITIALLY peaceful demonstrations. In fact, I'd argue the latter - based on my own anecdotal experience and what I've heard from others - is what sparked the VAST majority of the violence that year. In cases where police allowed demonstrators a certain degree of hands-off treatment, most of those demonstrations never saw any violence. In other cases where the police took a heavy hand against protestors early in the demonstrations, that's where you saw things devolve into chaos and violence. Of course there are always exceptions and opportunists which are in the minority in any social movement protests, and there are also always police, ATF, and FBI infiltrators which are also a minority.
I really don't understand how anyone could just wave their hand and say, literally, 100% of the George Floyd protests were 'violent' as though 1) they actually were (they weren't) and 2) "violence" is just one big bucket into which all sorts of actions and actors can be lumped to make a political point - which is what you're doing.
I'm not the one making any claims either way.
Absolutely.
Oh they know. Anyone that lives in a major city experienced it and was shaken, and this is the majority of liberals.
They just ignore it, minimize it, lie about it for the "greater good". They euphemistically call this "asset framing"....no kidding. Like why talk about the riots, fires and violence when 98% of demonstrations were peaceful.
"Oh they know. Anyone that lives in a major city experienced it and was shaken, and this is the majority of liberals."
The majority of big cities including the ones where there was protesting/rioting/looting/targeting of law enforcement (by right and left) are populated primarily by what any reasonable person would call "liberals" including myself, having lived in a city with its own BLM/George Floyd demonstrations (none of which turned violent other than an out-of-towner Trump supporter shooting a protestor who was open carrying). There was no property damage and nobody I know is scarred or shaken from it. I would guess the sentiment is the same in the majority of other cities with a few exceptions including certain areas of Minneapolis, Seattle and New York.
I know the topic is the January 6th incident, but the truth is that *most* if not the majority of the George Floyd protests were non-violent and that the property damage and looting were primarily motivated by poverty, the pandemic (lockdowns, loss of jobs, loneliness) and the overly harsh response of police to the initially completely non-violent gatherings.
I wrote this about January 6th on January 9th.
"The storming at the capitol was Lexington and Concord. It was Bunker Hill, It was the shot heard round the world. It was the blood that nourishes the Tree of Liberty. The right to vote freely in a Republic is worthy of all of this angst, all of the rage, and all of the tears."
More: https://jennyhatch.com/2021/02/11/democrats-rest-case-in-impeachment-trial-jennyhatch-voterfraud/
History will record that those who confronted our politicians on that day were completely justified. And if I had been there I would have happily joined in the storming of the castle.
Remember that the second impeachment effort was because President Trump supposedly called for violence.
Great points. What is forgotten is this was all about a manifestly corrupt election. We are losing our God given rights. We may have to fight harder to get them back
History will do none of those things. They committed an insurrection in order to try to stop a completely legitimate and normal handing off the Presidency from Trump to Biden. The election was completely valid, with Trump losing 67 of 68 court cases around it. And had you been there you hopefully would not have been stupid enough to do any such thing. But you keep on keeping on with your delusion.
Anyone who knows me well, including my husband and kids, know that if I had been at the Capitol on January 6th I would have joined in.
I would have organized a group to sing patriotic hymns outside the Senate chamber to remind the politicians to not certify an election that was certified by States that made last minute rule changes, in violation of the United States Constitution.
You should get out a bit Bob and talk to those who witnessed fraud in real time. I have been listening to their testimonies for months and the fact is that President Trump absolutely won the election...easily.
Why don't any of you remember the cop screaming in the door way? Also chanting hang mike pence? Trumps audit done in AZ found more votes for Biden. The drama king loves his reality show, except there's no paid apprenti reship at the end just his contestants paying him for a bit part in this American tradegy.
I saw the young officer get squished. Like I said, ALL of the angst over the election fraud is worthy of all of this seemingly pointless rising up in righteous indignation and rage.
A huge group of mostly men yelled out with their actions that they were not going to sit quietly while the ruling class stole another election.
Check your assumptions on the Arizona forensic audit proving Biden won. That was how the media cynically interpreted the results.
There was TONS of electoral dysfunction:
https://jennyhatch.com/2021/10/13/erectile-and-electoral-dysfunction/
And yet, we're supposed to believe that the "electoral dysfunction" was *ALL* in favor of Biden and not only that, but that it was all coordinated as a conspiracy. Sorry, that's a bridge way too far.
A few things bear noting here. During the past 100 years or more, there has been election "tampering" in the form of gerrymandering, voter suppression, overzealous voter ID laws, intimidation, under-staffing or not having enough voting machines, and in the case of Bush v. Gore, a partisan activist SCOTUS decision on party lines to cancel a recount in Florida where Bush's brother had played a key role in stopping it. In the Bush v. Kerry election there was serious malfeasance and conflict of interest at play in Ohio.
Also, Trump's White House commissioned a study on voter fraud well before the election of 2020 and its findings were, let's just say, underwhelming. In fact, numerous instances - if not the majority - of vote fraud cases involved votes in favor of Donald Trump in 2016. In none of the cases were there enough to change the outcome of any election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Advisory_Commission_on_Election_Integrity
I understand that the entrenched corporate oligarchy and old money aristocracy have long tentacles and control the media narratives - both "left" and right. I also understand that on most issues (not including abortion and social safety net or environment) we are presented with a fake choice between the Red warmongers and the Blue warmongers who both serve the same aforementioned corporate/aristocratic elite and the interests of big, big money and the 0.01%.
But when you do a deep dive on all of Trump's accusations of fraud, in every case I've seen, you turn up nothing. I'm fully willing to believe that the voting machines are hackable and have "back doors" either individually or in the tallying systems, but when the first thing I hear is that Venezuela (a huge demon to the American right and center Democrats) was changing the election in Biden's favor, I couldn't help but think back to when the center Democrats and most mainstream media were trying to tell us that Russia hacked the election in Trump's favor. It's utter bullshit in both cases.
I will NEVER forget sitting and watching in real time as Trump was very comfortably ahead, cruising to an easy victory, when counting in five states simultaneously stopped. Right then I knew it was rigged and over. No one has been able to adequately explain that to me.
Right, because Trump encouraged all his supporters to vote in person not by mail, so the mail in votes skewed towards Democrats. That's why it happened this way. Trump lost. Biden won. Might want to get over it and stop being completely delusional.
No. There wasn't. This has been fully litigated. Trump lost. Biden won. You may want to move on and stop being completely delusional.
80,000votes that were suspect, and still are. In one county
Over a MILLION in Pennsylvania. It is all going to bust out past the gatekeepers... I think Mastriano would be a wonderful Secretary of State. His leadership and courage has been amazing to witness.
I just marveled watching this...
https://youtu.be/O8NTMGkE6CA
Pennsylvania is the cradle of liberty and how joyous to watch them re-asserting their place in History.
Nope. You're 100% wrong. You have zero credibility. It's not busting out past anyone. You're completely delusional.
I know, it makes me also feel sad for our society. The fact that people not only compare January 6th to OKC bombing and 9/11, but they equate or act like January 6th is worse; and it's socially acceptable to say this.
In reality, January 6th was a trespassing event and riot that caused less damage than many riots over the summer. The only reason the media makes it out to be so horrible is because the trespassers defied Kween Kamala.
Disorderly tourists.
Well, this is fun. How about:
* 1968 race riots (Watts, Detroit, etc.)
* Assassination of MLK and RFK
* A variety of bombings and other violent acts committed by the left wing terrorist organization known as the Weatherman, also known as Weathermen and later the Weather Underground Organization, from 1969 through the 1970s. Their acts were overtly political.
Don't forget all the violence against Blacks in the country after the Civil War. Or the Indian massacres. Most of it was overtly political as well.
Never forget. Learn from history. It was as wrong as Antifa and BLM.
Pff... the rioting of 2020 was a state-sanctioned color revolution.
Nothing more. That's why the legacy corporate media pretends it never happened.
It's their clown world, we just live in it.
Please expand. How was it a color revolution in the same way as the US government and NGOs engineer them in places like Belarus and Ukraine and to some extent Syria and the greater middle east? By what metrics or indicators were the 2020 Floyd protests a state "sanctioned" color revolution and what political changes that were demanded by this "state" actually occurred? I'm genuinely curious. Like what was the goal and what was accomplished at the end of it all?
Got rid of Trump. Facilitated the stolen election.
And what about all those Koresh followers who were torched by ATF in Texas? Was that a violent insurrection? Tim McVeigh thought so.
Good point. That govt slaughter motivated him
Totally agree. Thanks
Should we mention all the lefty roaches that came out of the woodwork for George Floyd? Or the fact that the Democratic leadership knelt for 9 minutes in the rotunda with kente cloths around their necks to support a dangerous criminal, drug addict, drug dealer, car thief - talk about heinous; that was heinous.
I applaud Donald Trump for standing up for Ashli Babbitt. If he would have been president, that cop that shot her would have to pay. But instead we're living in a alternate universe where good is bad and lying is the norm, and the tyrants in the WH and Congress, with the help of the corporate media, are turning the screws on patriotic americans.
The extrajudicial execution of anyone, even if you think he's a "dangerous criminal" is fucking heinous because he wasn't being a "dangerous criminal" when he was executed. Ashli, not so much.
I'm getting really sick of the Trump Trolls on here.
You sound like just the kind of cuck we’ve come to expect when anyone brings up Floyd. The guy shouldn’t have died, but the moron had the better part of half an hour to just get in the fucking cop car! At one point in the video he even says “put me back on the ground!”.
GF worth more dead than alive. Shouldn't have died, noone argues, but he's no saint. Not by a longshot.
hear hear!
Yep. Watch the whole video. He died of a fentanyl overdose. I work in an inner city ER. See big violent strung out folks like this all the time. Pretty scary.
Neither of these people were acting in a manner that required deadly force. I don't think we should tolerate police brutality and excessive use of force just because the victim is not in our political tribe.
Yup. If it took the riot on the 6th for people to learn that our state murders its people, they'd been actively ignoring the hundreds of extra-judicial killings the cops perpetrate yearly. In other words: they're only capable of empathy if their politics align with the victim. I think you had to be a real dim bulb to be at that Jan 6 riot, but that certainly doesn't mean Babbitt shoulda been shot.
Call me old school, but I differentiate a heavy-handed yet widely used and taught police tactic from a bullet to the dome.
I have a hard time lumping these together under "deadly force".
Floyd was restrained with a described method. Fentanyl killed him
How about, “statist cunt?”
You don’t get points for how you arrive at a corpse.
Of course how you arrive at death is relevant. For instance, trespassing isn't cause for death. Resisting arrest and attempting escape, for instance after driving around beyond wasted with COVID, putting innocent people in immediate harms way....well play stupid games win stupid prizes.
That aside, you should try and make a point once without cussing. You'd look more intelligent.
The use of curse words is highly correlated with higher intelligence. Maybe you'd look more intelligent if you made a point with cussing.
Which is worse?
Telling you to fuck off?
Or minimizing murder because it suits your political persuasion?
Neither were dangerous criminals. Yes one was committing a crime and was no angel either. The other was knelt on in a more unjustified killing. I'll admit that about both Ashli Babbitt and George Floyd.
Still, the shooting was not a "righteous kill" as the media claims and if it happened to an antifa protestor, there would be hell to pay.
Adolph Reed predicts the backlash to woketard liberals will be a Holocaust. I agree. I don’t think blacks will be the target though. I think a lot of frantic Twitter deletions are coming.
I love Adolph Reed and I need to hear more of his work. I can't say his wrong. Let's pray that if there is a violent backlash to wokeism, it targets the intellectuals and not any children.
Usually the innocent get slaughtered and the guilty slither away.
I hope not, but the amount of time you can draw a direct line from utter fuckery to the Tribe is depressing.
People are noticing, and they are well aware of it. I hope cooler heads prevail yet I see little to no course correction.
Floyd made bad decision after bad decision after bad decision, his entire life and was nothing but a cost to society.
He had put himself in the ER before by downing a bunch of drugs to try and evade arrest and apparently learned nothing.
In a functioning society, he wouldn't have made the news.
Lol
Some society we have here. Yes sir.
Even after death!! The old adage being "worth more dead than alive" fits GF to a T!
The punishment did not fit the crime and this has nothing to do with Trump. Get your TDS checked along with your antibodies dude, dude, you're not healthy.
What you are getting sick of is the truth coming out and what is to follow. Buckle up buttercup.
Take a breath, Markie Mark. The folks here whose views you dislike are not going away.
It seems like that's all there are on here. Predictable, I guess.
Not really. Some of us are recovering former Democrats who've seen Burrrrnie, AOC, Ilhan, and The Squad poison politics with their Marxist blathtering.
I would laugh my ass off if R's took a knee for Ashli.
You forgot his porn career too! Now we are screwed, who's gonna cure cancer now George Floyd is dead?
Awesome post!!
Do you ever consider the blatant hypocrisy of excusing the extrajudicial killing of George Floyd - an illegal act perpetrated by those sworn to uphold the law - on the basis that Floyd committed criminal acts?
This outrage over the support of Floyd rings hollow when it comes from those who implicitly or explicitly justify, or at least minimize, the most morally repugnant and serious crime in US law.
These appeals to law and order - expressed through the mantra “the law is the law” - seem disingenuous at best, and to be subterfuge for much more sinister ideology rooted in the ignorance and hatred of white supremacy.
Floyd died from fentanyl. I do think they should have started CPR sooner. He was not killed. Ashli was murdered in cold blood while surrounded by police ifficers
Lol get the fuck out of here. “That knee on his neck for 9 minutes had nothing to don with it!! Chaivin was clearly convicted due to nothing but Floyd’s own drug use.” What a tragically delusional take. Keep excusing murder, though.
And yes, I think the murder of AB was wrong. See how easy that is?
Sorry knee on shoulder. Not comfortable but not in itself deadly.
You’re literally just making that up. We can all see the video and the pictures, including that one picture y’all like to circulate with the red circle around Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s neck that you say is proof that it’s on his shoulder. Quit your bullshit.
Main cause of death: fentanyl + underlying health problems.
If Trump had won there would have been no shooting, or did I miss something.
If Trump had won, the “insurrection” would have come from the Democrat’s side. I doubt anybody would have been shot, though, based on the protests of the summer.
do you realize how many people died as a result of the summer protests? 25 deaths, 604 arrests, an estimated $550 million in property damage to 1,500 locations. now tell me 1/06 was worse? #libtards
This is never mentioned but BLM preplanned riots in every major city if Trump won. They’ve boasted about it.
I'm just glad the media handles all police shootings exactly the same. Race doesn't figure into it at all.
Politics is also non-existent.
It is odd to think that a cop just smoked Babbitt and went on TV bragging about how he had no legal justification to shoot an unarmed veteran with no criminal record.
The same politicians who cheered cities being burned, including many mob beatings and murders, in the name of a multi-deadbeat dad who shoved a pistol in a fetus during a home invasion, then proceeded to drive around on a cocktail of drugs and COVID moments before his death, are silent.
The hypocrisy is appalling and noxious, whatever one's politics are.
Indeed. If anyone is curious to see mass gaslighting - or as it used to be called, propaganda - we're living in it's golden age.
Also odd, as more and more information has been delivered to the masses' fingertips, the gaslighting has only gotten more and more shameless and dirty.
Almost like they are testing how far it can go before people hit their limit. We have to be getting close.
There's no limit. Algorithms determine what will keep you enraged, I mean engaged, and continue to serve it up to keep those staring at the small screen in your pocket or the big screen in the living room. Gotta keep the cha-ching rolling! Hunter's laptop - $$. Branch Covidian groupthink - $$$$. Merck marking up therapeutic 40x above cost. $$$$$$$
I think the motivation is more insidious and deep rooted.