A total of 0.34% of the US population died from c19, remove the over 65 crowd and 0.085% of the population died from c19. Sorry but I’m not that worried.
“people like yourself willingly ignoring a impending catastrophe until it was too late. Events such as every financial crisis that ever happened, WWII, this extinction event, etc.”
Those are not “catastrophes as on the scale of mass extinction.
I’ll say again, people like you have claimed for all of mankind that the world was about to end for various reasons. The one thing they and you have in common is that all were 100% wrong.
“I have no kids. As for living sustainably, everyone is stuck in the reality that selfish people like yourself created through your selfish decisions. I have proposed a number of solutions that would end the use of fossil fuels forever and yet you ignore them.”
Actually you’ve proposed none. You must have me confused with someone else. As for the rest you are in control of yourself. You most certainly could live sustainably if you really wanted to. But for some reason you don’t and choose to blame others.
You missed one thing in your attempt to define Hunan nature several post ago. All species live their lives, only one though contemplates their death...humans. You should spend more time living and less worrying about dying. Take some advice from Jack London and live.
“The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time.”
Last comment to you. If you think you are rational and those who disagree with you are not you should read “The Laws of Human Nature” by Robert Greene. You might learn a thing or two.
Also look up the “Morale case for fossil fuels” and expand your depth of knowledge.
Unlike other species we are able to adapt in ways they were not, in large part thanks to carbon energy. Despite the claims of climate catastrophist like yourself we have somehow managed to support ever increasing populations while using less land to do so for example. Perhaps you should take your own advice and do some reading.
No, we're not capable of adapting to totally dysfunctional ecosystems. If the economy couldn't handle the pandemic, which was mild, or the Russian invasion of Ukraine, then it will collapse when a few foundation species enter functional extinction. It's over.
The Permian Era extinction event took 60,000 +/- 48,000 years and we are collapsing wildlife populations at a far, far faster rate. It's over if we don't stop now.
LOL! You're an idiot, but I'll tell you how it's done as it's far above any one person, dolt.
1. The federal government funds the development of an industrial scale integral fast reactor that proved itself safe and capable back in 1986. The federal government then funds the building of these reactors to replace all fossil fuel fire power plants t be owned and operated by the states with the rate payers paying back the federal government.
2. The federal government licenses the design to other countries to ensure that they replace their fossil fuel fired power plants.
3. The availability of plentiful and inexhaustible electricity can now be used to generate hydrogen from water on-site to enable the hydrogen era, thus replacing all fossil fuels used in transportation and the need for batteries.
4. End the holocaust that is the animal-based meat industry, nonhuman animals are not ours to do with as we please, and re-engineer agriculture to be environmentally friendly.
5. Develop policies to get people to stop having kids to drive the population to well below 2 billion ASAP while we replace our extractive economy with a sustainable one based on closing the loops from waste to manufacture.
There, that would fix the biggest problems that people like you support.
So, you think that those numbers are vastly incorrect. OK, Einstein. The lesson is that a natural, climate driven extinction event took quite a while, in our terms, but a blink of an eye in geological terms, to wipe out 95% of life on earth and we're accomplishing that in a little over a 1,000 years. Yes, we are collapsing populations at a far faster rate.
“The Permian Era extinction event took 60,000 +/- 48,000 years”
-No self respecting scientist would publish numbers that have an 80% error range.
- easy research shows that the Permian extinction occurred over the course of 15 million years (not 60,000 +\- 48,000) but some now claim that the extinction interval was much more rapid, lasting only about 200,000 years, with the bulk of the species loss occurring over a 20,000-year span near the end of the period which is much more rapid than anything you believe we are seeing now.
So yes, your numbers are vastly incorrect.
We are not in an extinction. If we are then nothing to worry about as an extinction event is a network effect and once started it cannot be stopped. So any claims about an Anthropocene extinction is just an attempt to scare you, something you seem to prone to.
So seriously, what is with you doomsday cultist? Why are you always looking for something to victimize you?
Man is an animal tethered to earth, and like all earth-bound animals passing through this realm, will eventually go extinct.
The chief difference between Homo sapiens and the other species that have passed through and subsequently vanished from this early realm, is that man will provide for its own species' final extinction, quickly, quietly and above all else, efficiently.
We are driving this extinction event, wildlife populations are in decline due to human activity, from overpopulation, our extractive economy, our use of fossil fuels, etc.
Math isn’t your strong point is it? I clearly stated “...lasting only about 200,000 years, with the bulk of the species loss occurring over a 20,000-year span...” which would encompass your 60k+/-
I would also point out that your article was from 2014 and more recent numbers (2021) are 100k for marine life and 1,000,000 for land animals
Either way then point they is lost on you is that an extinction takes 10s of thousands of years and unlike the life forms involved in previous ones we have the ability to change as needed. We are not in dire times and you need to find a new religion other than climate catastrophism
The declines at the end of the Permian Era were very fast and the declines that we're causing are even faster. All it will take is for enough foundation species to enter functional extinction for an ecosystem to collapse, such as krill that has declined over 70-80%, from a number of factors. When that happens, it's over and that could take a very short period of time, such as a few years because of the pressure that we place that didn't exist in the Permian Era.
Global warming is but one more stressor on wildlife caused by humans.
If it makes you happy to live in fear then do so. But just because you missed your ride on Hale-Boop comment with rest of your cult didn’t mean the rest of want to listen to you babble about some make believe catastrophe
Even if so there is no evidence it’s catastrophic nor that we or the planet can’t adapt.
75% of C19 deaths were in the 65 and older population, a group that according to the census makes up only 16.4% of the population.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
A total of 0.34% of the US population died from c19, remove the over 65 crowd and 0.085% of the population died from c19. Sorry but I’m not that worried.
“people like yourself willingly ignoring a impending catastrophe until it was too late. Events such as every financial crisis that ever happened, WWII, this extinction event, etc.”
Those are not “catastrophes as on the scale of mass extinction.
I’ll say again, people like you have claimed for all of mankind that the world was about to end for various reasons. The one thing they and you have in common is that all were 100% wrong.
“I have no kids. As for living sustainably, everyone is stuck in the reality that selfish people like yourself created through your selfish decisions. I have proposed a number of solutions that would end the use of fossil fuels forever and yet you ignore them.”
Actually you’ve proposed none. You must have me confused with someone else. As for the rest you are in control of yourself. You most certainly could live sustainably if you really wanted to. But for some reason you don’t and choose to blame others.
You missed one thing in your attempt to define Hunan nature several post ago. All species live their lives, only one though contemplates their death...humans. You should spend more time living and less worrying about dying. Take some advice from Jack London and live.
“The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time.”
Last comment to you. If you think you are rational and those who disagree with you are not you should read “The Laws of Human Nature” by Robert Greene. You might learn a thing or two.
Also look up the “Morale case for fossil fuels” and expand your depth of knowledge.
Ta ta for now pooh bear
LOL! You're an idiot! The evidence are all previous climate driven extinction events. It's not that tough to do some reading.
Unlike other species we are able to adapt in ways they were not, in large part thanks to carbon energy. Despite the claims of climate catastrophist like yourself we have somehow managed to support ever increasing populations while using less land to do so for example. Perhaps you should take your own advice and do some reading.
No, we're not capable of adapting to totally dysfunctional ecosystems. If the economy couldn't handle the pandemic, which was mild, or the Russian invasion of Ukraine, then it will collapse when a few foundation species enter functional extinction. It's over.
The Permian Era extinction event took 60,000 +/- 48,000 years and we are collapsing wildlife populations at a far, far faster rate. It's over if we don't stop now.
Sounds great. Stop now, give up all carbon-producing products including the internet. Why don't you go first and show us how it's to be done?
LOL! You're an idiot, but I'll tell you how it's done as it's far above any one person, dolt.
1. The federal government funds the development of an industrial scale integral fast reactor that proved itself safe and capable back in 1986. The federal government then funds the building of these reactors to replace all fossil fuel fire power plants t be owned and operated by the states with the rate payers paying back the federal government.
2. The federal government licenses the design to other countries to ensure that they replace their fossil fuel fired power plants.
3. The availability of plentiful and inexhaustible electricity can now be used to generate hydrogen from water on-site to enable the hydrogen era, thus replacing all fossil fuels used in transportation and the need for batteries.
4. End the holocaust that is the animal-based meat industry, nonhuman animals are not ours to do with as we please, and re-engineer agriculture to be environmentally friendly.
5. Develop policies to get people to stop having kids to drive the population to well below 2 billion ASAP while we replace our extractive economy with a sustainable one based on closing the loops from waste to manufacture.
There, that would fix the biggest problems that people like you support.
LOL, and you're an asshole. Now, can we dispense with the name calling?
LOL! and you're an asshole, that name fits you.
Lead by example and find a tall bridge.
I do lead by example. You need to change or jump yourself.
“The Permian Era extinction event took 60,000 +/- 48,000 “
a) I think your numbers are vastly incorrect
b) so what you’re saying is we have between 12,000 and 108,000 years. I’m pretty sure we’ll figure it out.
“we are collapsing wildlife populations at a far, far faster rate.” -No we are not.
“It's over if we don't stop now.”- now you sound like ehrlich who is 100% wrong all the time
So, you think that those numbers are vastly incorrect. OK, Einstein. The lesson is that a natural, climate driven extinction event took quite a while, in our terms, but a blink of an eye in geological terms, to wipe out 95% of life on earth and we're accomplishing that in a little over a 1,000 years. Yes, we are collapsing populations at a far faster rate.
Go help your mommy.
Your claim:
“The Permian Era extinction event took 60,000 +/- 48,000 years”
-No self respecting scientist would publish numbers that have an 80% error range.
- easy research shows that the Permian extinction occurred over the course of 15 million years (not 60,000 +\- 48,000) but some now claim that the extinction interval was much more rapid, lasting only about 200,000 years, with the bulk of the species loss occurring over a 20,000-year span near the end of the period which is much more rapid than anything you believe we are seeing now.
So yes, your numbers are vastly incorrect.
We are not in an extinction. If we are then nothing to worry about as an extinction event is a network effect and once started it cannot be stopped. So any claims about an Anthropocene extinction is just an attempt to scare you, something you seem to prone to.
So seriously, what is with you doomsday cultist? Why are you always looking for something to victimize you?
Man is an animal tethered to earth, and like all earth-bound animals passing through this realm, will eventually go extinct.
The chief difference between Homo sapiens and the other species that have passed through and subsequently vanished from this early realm, is that man will provide for its own species' final extinction, quickly, quietly and above all else, efficiently.
Your numbers are incorrect:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/worst-mass-extinction-ever-took-only-60000-years/
We are driving this extinction event, wildlife populations are in decline due to human activity, from overpopulation, our extractive economy, our use of fossil fuels, etc.
Math isn’t your strong point is it? I clearly stated “...lasting only about 200,000 years, with the bulk of the species loss occurring over a 20,000-year span...” which would encompass your 60k+/-
I would also point out that your article was from 2014 and more recent numbers (2021) are 100k for marine life and 1,000,000 for land animals
https://phys.org/news/2021-04-earth-biggest-mass-extinction-ten.html
Either way then point they is lost on you is that an extinction takes 10s of thousands of years and unlike the life forms involved in previous ones we have the ability to change as needed. We are not in dire times and you need to find a new religion other than climate catastrophism
The declines at the end of the Permian Era were very fast and the declines that we're causing are even faster. All it will take is for enough foundation species to enter functional extinction for an ecosystem to collapse, such as krill that has declined over 70-80%, from a number of factors. When that happens, it's over and that could take a very short period of time, such as a few years because of the pressure that we place that didn't exist in the Permian Era.
Global warming is but one more stressor on wildlife caused by humans.
If it makes you happy to live in fear then do so. But just because you missed your ride on Hale-Boop comment with rest of your cult didn’t mean the rest of want to listen to you babble about some make believe catastrophe