Every person who obstructs illegally should be ID'd. Their finances should be investigated to see if they were paid for work during the hours they were involved, and if so the employer should be sued civilly by the govt.
Are these the same people, with the "Masks are Authoritarian" signs, who insisted (in an authoritarian way) that everyone MUST wear masks....oh, just a few years ago?
Do they hear themselves? It's almost in the realm of a comedy routine.
Yes. I had a family member flying with 2 twin girls under age 2 and a 3 year old. The 3 year wouldn’t put the mask on. So they couldn’t fly. My family member called the cops on the AIRLINE at the airport. In a move I will always respect. They eventually rented a car. The 3 year old is on the spectrum. Science denying heartless assholes. Maybe ICE should wear Black Block like Antifa.
They think what they are told to think. Every morning my super-Dem friends get their meming orders from Democrat headquarters and send them out on Facebook like clockwork. I get the same ones from several of them every day.
I noticed that the two organizers giving "refresher tactics" to the protesters were both masked themselves. They can't seem to make up their minds whether masking is the way to go or not.
As much as I opposed mask mandates, there's an important distinction: during COVID, they at least rested on an obvious (even if misguided) public safety rationale. By contrast, the justification for ICE agents wearing masks is far from clear. In a free and democratic society, the image of masked government agents arresting people at their places of work, etc. is troubling. I don't like it, even if I agree with what they're doing.
Jett, mask mandates during COVID-mania were useless authoritarianism to begin with. The masks never assisted keeping any virus at bay. But everyone certainly became used to them.
Notice in that video that several of the protesters there were even wearing masks. Including the two who were leading the crew, up front.
However, masks on the federal agents are about protecting those agents and their families. From identification and subsequent doxxing. Being identified through internet footage and then traced and attacked is becoming a real risk these days. You hadn't realized that?
Public schools and almost any possible college they may have attended now deliberately eradicate, if they can, any shred of self-awareness. If their parents haven't already done the job. As the President might say, "Sad."
What I’ve noticed with the HS students I tutor is that for all the time they spend in cyberspace, they have to be baby-stepped through how to do even basic research. Helping them then determine what is good/bad information is another major task. I am thankful to be in a position to help a handful of students through the process, but am appalled—but no longer surprised—that they aren’t taught this at school.
The large increase in the number of families choosing to homeschool is encouraging. Those parents who believe they couldn’t manage it would be more likely to go for it if they were aware of how much support and the various options, such as homeschooling coops, that are available.
It has been some years since I homeschooled, so there may be more or different options out there now. I used some of the very good Homeschooling books for guidance, as well as my own background.
There are vast resources for homeschooling, all in all. Must be at least fairly disciplined to pull it off, and also have an adult available. But there are many success stories over the 40 years or so of the homeschool movement.
I found an important aspect in my homeschooling days was to assign a good book (fiction or non-fiction), at age level, every week. And then we discussed it the next week. I also used the online program in Mathematics once they grew beyond what I could capably teach. And I also arranged extra-curricular activities with their age group in the community afterschool and weekends. Yes, teaching them basic research skills was a must.
Difficult to deny all internet use if one is homeschooling, but hours, sites should be limited and monitored. Cell phones with the most limited of functions for overnights, if there's no landline there, to be returned to the parents on returning home.
At least, I have been thinking a lot about this, as the novel I'm working on will have parents considering the question, and that's how I think they'll solve it, at this point.
They will, of course, find curricula changed at the public schools they attended, and homeschool their kids after first or second grade (no kindergarten enrollment).
I homeschooled, actually. Though it was some years ago now. We did use one excellent online program at the time, for Mathematics and introductory Computer Science. But I was always in my office in the next room, and could hear what was going on. Cannot allow the children to graze freely these days.
It's disgraceful that members of Congress are demonizing law enforcement officials charged with enforcing laws that members of Congress have written and passed. They're putting people in danger for doing the jobs they were sent out to do by these very same people. Shameful. They're going to get someone killed. Again.
What other laws they've written does Congress feel we should feel free to ignore? They've already made theft, rioting, arson, assault, vandalism, death threats, and crossing the border "optional." Even murder gets a pass if the victim is Brian Thompson or Charlie Kirk.
Hey, what about this? I really hate paying taxes. Can I just skip that? At least I wouldn't be burning down someone's business or shooting someone in the back. A victimless crime, you might say. %-)
They could change the laws. They're the only ones who can. This is literally their job description in a nutshell. Why don't they propose amnesty for all the illegals here, instead of doxxing immigration officials? Why? Because amnesty is unpopular, and their top priority is keeping their cushy $174,000 a year jobs complete with perks and pensions. And stock tips! Better to just let Americans fight it out in the streets.
No kidding. They fight for slave labor and all but come out and admit by screaming about who's going to watch your kids? Clean your house? Pick your lettuce? Mow your lawn? Lol.
I do many of those jobs but you will have to pay social security taxes! I want a better SS check since c.o.l. is always higher than what the govt claims
I always questioned having a nanny for your children who comes from a culture with values not all that similar to yours. And who will probably pass these on. Children are very impressionable. They could be taught to become Venezuelan gang members....right under Mummy's nose.
Term limits would not solve this problem. The Democratic politicians who publicly demonstrate against ICE are in safe Democratc districts that no Republican would ever win.
We already have term limits.... elections. Sadly, those require an electorate with enough wisdom, judgement and independence from ego to make rational choices. But we don't behave rationally.
Yeah, kinda, Indecisive decider. I hear the "elections" argument a lot, of course. But unfortunately our system has devolved into an Incumbent Protection Program. Our local congresswoman in New Jersey has an office in town with a shiny, heavy metal plaque on the front of the building announcing her presence, so she clearly isn't planning to go anywhere. They have the name recognition, the funding pipeline, the donor connections, the office "petty cash," and the hearings grandstanding videos to cement their positions.
And in so many districts in the country, Left and Right, there is simply no viable alternative option. If you're a Republican and you want to build a career in politics, you just don't live on Martha's Vineyard.
I'm no fan of little pencil-necked David Hogg, but when he suggested to the DNC that it might be time for new blood, he was smacked down immediately by the entrenched interests.
Also not a fan of David Hogg, and yes, the DNC response to his "suggestions" was interesting. My concern is...what kind of far-left people would they suggest for the "new blood"?
Well, yeah, LSH, that's the problem, isn't it? What is their suggestion? But that sounds like a "they" problem and not an "us" problem. Unfortunately, this is why they haven't turned down the temperature since Charlie Kirk's assassination. Because in order to stop calling everyone to the right of center Nazis and Fascists, they would have to replace the name-calling with actual policy suggestions and ideas, which they don't have.
If they don't like what's going on with immigration, crime, the economy, Israel/Hamas, Ukraine/Russia, education... what helpful tips could they provide?
They haven't any. That's why, in the wake of a political assassination just two weeks ago, we have the spectacle of the mentally deranged Keith Olbermann texting to Scott Jennings, "You're next, motherf*cker."
legacy politicians - those that were elected prior to social media - are vulnerable in ways they do not see. If 1000 people in a town show up and protest a city's initiatives, that legacy politician's career is in jeopardy. Look what is happening now in Austin with the city council removing items to be discussed to prevent public comment. Those Austin city council members are likely to be voted out of office in the next election. Their political careers are going to end and they'll have to find jobs working for Bezos' box of warehouses.
It's not as easy for politicians to hide from view anymore.
"It's disgraceful that members of Congress are demonizing law enforcement officials charged with enforcing laws that members of Congress have written and passed. They're putting people in danger for doing the jobs they were sent out to do by these very same people. Shameful. They're going to get someone killed. Again."
A very important point.
The obvious goal is violence. No one is being subtle about this.
BOTH parties in collusion have given us:
1) The attack of the "Intelligence Community"
2) Lawfare
3) Impeachment
4) Assassination
5) Next stop--war in the streets.
All because the internet and Trump pissed in their punch. And I'm pretty sure that they will start with number four from now on.
Society massively demonizing a certain segment of the population gives crazy people a ready made target to make sure they don't waste precious manic time trying to figure out who to strike out against. Without that, crazy people mostly attack people they know.
We know from recent history exactly how and why this is encouraged.
Create the social target and then agitate and unleash the crazies.
Also, both parties brought us censorship, unending war, the suppression of Epstein and the current g*noc*de in the Middle East, altho I have to give Mar-a-Gaza a special shout out for above and beyond. Likewise, the Russia Russia Russia bs was stupid beyond belief.
Not sure why you partially obscured "genocide" there. Is that now a banned word?
Because *genocide* is eggs-ackly what's going on there.
Enabled and propelled by Trump, just like it was by Biden (and would have been by Harris).
I've got zero patience for those here who refer to those barbarous "Hamas supporters". Because what Hamas did (basically a military operation) was like a walk in the park compared to what the murderous IDF had done and is doing and will do.
If you want a bit of history on this tactic and its use in the West, it was initially thrust upon the masses in late 1960s Canada by then Prime Minister Pierre Troodo, who was also a Communist under cover, as well as a member of the nefarious Club of Rome. He saw distinct possibilities in being able to import guaranteed voters/votes for his party.
Speaking of the words applicable to the 1930s German cult, I am re-reading (for the 4th or 5th time) American Prof. David Redles' book, "Hitler's Millennial Reich" (2005). Recommended.
Totalitarianism is the wider category to which cults belong. Any totalitarian group includes a leader or group of leaders, visible or behind the scenes. With a group narrative. And an accompanying herd.
Should any insider or outsider question the leader(s) or the group narrative, that herd will shun/smear/punish the dissenters.
Yes. As in Cancel Culture, Narcissistic discards, witch hunts, the allegations made in the False Memory Syndrome of the 80s/90s, and of course the executions under the medieval Spanish Inquisition.
Worst of all was the Germans under Hitler using the Jews as their group scapegoat. The number one "heretics"....apparently. And in 2025, most unfortunately, we see this particular scapegoating rising again.
And my FB feed is filled with dumpy white boomergals circulating handy tips for obstructing ICE if they ever run across any. They treat this like some kind of interactive dinner theater outing. I'm surprised they don't get the pussyhats out of the guest room closet. Not a single one of these bleating HR ladies would survive losing a gelcoat nail, much less getting knocked on their butts by an ICE agent in riot gear.
Check out alderman Lopez if you want to know what normal people think in Chicago. When I see crowds like that I think 1) they would never demonstrate against the drug dealers/gangs that are actually murdering people- they only yell at people they feel safe around 2) they are rich enough to not have to worry about work or they are paid to do this/are at work.
What is occurring might seem to some like an overcorrection, but the blame for the current situation lies squarely with the the former Administration, whose embrace of a lawless, open border brought us into a dire situation that must be remedied by force when necessary. In a sane world we'd have a much more calm and orderly immigration process instead of this veering between extremes.
I'm not sure how much reform we need, as far as I know, the laws are still similar to the what they were under Obama, but of course the usual suspects were silent. What we need at the moment is an actual border, the way our homes have doors and locks. For the future, we need the enforcement of such be durable no matter the capricious nature of the current Executive. It should simply be a matter of national defense.
If you watch what they do, strategically it is very much military tactics. And it is also designed to pull other protesters into a highly emotional moment where they will join in and also physically attack the police.
The goal is to get enough people to attack the police so that the police retreat.
Video of the police retreating will then be used to encourage more people to join in future attacks.
And so on. And so on.
It's performative in the sense that they are trying to work the crowd, but there are very real strategic goals and tactics going on.
Now how much the linemen understand of plays or the machinations of owners is up to the lineman, but plays are being called and the players are playing their roles--aware or not.
It's well worth to watch these ICE videos just to watch the tactics and play calling on both sides.
We use Woke sort of as a bucket of imbecilic ideas... a shorthand to describe the most easily manipulated to believe utter nonsense, but I do wonder what it will take to cure them of this.
When will they hit rock bottom? What will it take for them to see their own idiocy? Since it is a cult, how do you help lead someone to see their reality when they're fighting you the entire time?
That's the thing though Id...they have nothing to lose. They don't have real jobs, they live in tiny urban apartments, and they don't have families to feed. For many of them, I suspect that participating in riots like this are the only social interactions they have. It's sad.
Full of passionate intensity, as the worst among us are in difficult times. Let's hope the rest of us don't prove the corollary lack of all conviction.
And they lack all self-awareness, which makes them risible without any means of realizing that.
Thanks for the tip. Incredible story. I wonder how many of the woke warriors truly are where the Namibian farmer was. Those that protest, block ICE vehicles and sadly those on college campuses (professors and students).... I think those people are too far gone. They are totaled, as an insurance company might say.
Cult-kid savior Ted Patrick had many successes, back in the 70s/80s. Problem was, he needed his clients to be a captive audience, or they would just walk out on him as he attempted deprogramming. Ted got himself arrested for that.
I guess it makes for interesting videos, but honestly, if there were no cameras present these fools would have no purpose. It's all theater for these "protestors"
The worst and most aggressive of these rioters are handsomely paid professional rioters. Many of the rest are useful idiots with TDS that get inflamed by the pros in the crowd. Anyone stupid enough to put their hands on a federal officer, block his vehicle deserves everything they get including being arrested and jailed. BUT who pays these assholes???
What’s wrong with the FBI and homeland security? It’s hard for me to believe they don’t know. I think I know. Snatch a couple of the obvious pros and threaten them with ten years breaking rocks in the hot sun and get them to sing!
Them that aided and abetted the invasion of tens of millions now obstruct their expulsion.
Well, unlike most stuff we see from The Resistance, that one's at least logically consistent. Crazy, granted, but consistently so.
Let’s have them vetted on the way out. Not on the way in?
Every person who obstructs illegally should be ID'd. Their finances should be investigated to see if they were paid for work during the hours they were involved, and if so the employer should be sued civilly by the govt.
Are these the same people, with the "Masks are Authoritarian" signs, who insisted (in an authoritarian way) that everyone MUST wear masks....oh, just a few years ago?
Do they hear themselves? It's almost in the realm of a comedy routine.
Remember how just a few months ago, folks were saying "protect our federal workforce" and "we love our federal employees"?
Not these employees tho
Yes. I had a family member flying with 2 twin girls under age 2 and a 3 year old. The 3 year wouldn’t put the mask on. So they couldn’t fly. My family member called the cops on the AIRLINE at the airport. In a move I will always respect. They eventually rented a car. The 3 year old is on the spectrum. Science denying heartless assholes. Maybe ICE should wear Black Block like Antifa.
Exactly. Just a few years ago, every other person in the non-brainwashed camp had a story like this, of "mask abuse".
And now the WOKE-folk have flipped the mask-narrative 180 degrees.
They think what they are told to think. Every morning my super-Dem friends get their meming orders from Democrat headquarters and send them out on Facebook like clockwork. I get the same ones from several of them every day.
They are programmed Pod People. They're losing the evolutionary advantages that Western civilization fought more than 2000 years to bring about.
But you cannot tell them this. It bounces off.
I am surprised they speak to you....as a heretic.
I noticed that the two organizers giving "refresher tactics" to the protesters were both masked themselves. They can't seem to make up their minds whether masking is the way to go or not.
"Liberal logic" is an oxymoron.
As much as I opposed mask mandates, there's an important distinction: during COVID, they at least rested on an obvious (even if misguided) public safety rationale. By contrast, the justification for ICE agents wearing masks is far from clear. In a free and democratic society, the image of masked government agents arresting people at their places of work, etc. is troubling. I don't like it, even if I agree with what they're doing.
Jett, mask mandates during COVID-mania were useless authoritarianism to begin with. The masks never assisted keeping any virus at bay. But everyone certainly became used to them.
Notice in that video that several of the protesters there were even wearing masks. Including the two who were leading the crew, up front.
However, masks on the federal agents are about protecting those agents and their families. From identification and subsequent doxxing. Being identified through internet footage and then traced and attacked is becoming a real risk these days. You hadn't realized that?
Public schools and almost any possible college they may have attended now deliberately eradicate, if they can, any shred of self-awareness. If their parents haven't already done the job. As the President might say, "Sad."
I consider it an indoctrination program. Parents who care need to do what they can to find alternatives for education.
I would begin with not even considering allowing my child a cellphone or internet.
What I’ve noticed with the HS students I tutor is that for all the time they spend in cyberspace, they have to be baby-stepped through how to do even basic research. Helping them then determine what is good/bad information is another major task. I am thankful to be in a position to help a handful of students through the process, but am appalled—but no longer surprised—that they aren’t taught this at school.
The large increase in the number of families choosing to homeschool is encouraging. Those parents who believe they couldn’t manage it would be more likely to go for it if they were aware of how much support and the various options, such as homeschooling coops, that are available.
It has been some years since I homeschooled, so there may be more or different options out there now. I used some of the very good Homeschooling books for guidance, as well as my own background.
There are vast resources for homeschooling, all in all. Must be at least fairly disciplined to pull it off, and also have an adult available. But there are many success stories over the 40 years or so of the homeschool movement.
I found an important aspect in my homeschooling days was to assign a good book (fiction or non-fiction), at age level, every week. And then we discussed it the next week. I also used the online program in Mathematics once they grew beyond what I could capably teach. And I also arranged extra-curricular activities with their age group in the community afterschool and weekends. Yes, teaching them basic research skills was a must.
Difficult to deny all internet use if one is homeschooling, but hours, sites should be limited and monitored. Cell phones with the most limited of functions for overnights, if there's no landline there, to be returned to the parents on returning home.
At least, I have been thinking a lot about this, as the novel I'm working on will have parents considering the question, and that's how I think they'll solve it, at this point.
They will, of course, find curricula changed at the public schools they attended, and homeschool their kids after first or second grade (no kindergarten enrollment).
I homeschooled, actually. Though it was some years ago now. We did use one excellent online program at the time, for Mathematics and introductory Computer Science. But I was always in my office in the next room, and could hear what was going on. Cannot allow the children to graze freely these days.
Oh, I'm with you there!
What's thinking, the same thing. It's like a Babylon bee skit.
It’s astounding that they can’t see their own hypocrisy. A bunch of fools!
Or complaining about J6 protestors
It's disgraceful that members of Congress are demonizing law enforcement officials charged with enforcing laws that members of Congress have written and passed. They're putting people in danger for doing the jobs they were sent out to do by these very same people. Shameful. They're going to get someone killed. Again.
What other laws they've written does Congress feel we should feel free to ignore? They've already made theft, rioting, arson, assault, vandalism, death threats, and crossing the border "optional." Even murder gets a pass if the victim is Brian Thompson or Charlie Kirk.
Hey, what about this? I really hate paying taxes. Can I just skip that? At least I wouldn't be burning down someone's business or shooting someone in the back. A victimless crime, you might say. %-)
They could change the laws. They're the only ones who can. This is literally their job description in a nutshell. Why don't they propose amnesty for all the illegals here, instead of doxxing immigration officials? Why? Because amnesty is unpopular, and their top priority is keeping their cushy $174,000 a year jobs complete with perks and pensions. And stock tips! Better to just let Americans fight it out in the streets.
Term limits. Term limits. Term limits.
They also don't want to lose their cheap nannies, landscapers, maids, and pool cleaners.
No kidding. They fight for slave labor and all but come out and admit by screaming about who's going to watch your kids? Clean your house? Pick your lettuce? Mow your lawn? Lol.
No self awareness.
I do many of those jobs but you will have to pay social security taxes! I want a better SS check since c.o.l. is always higher than what the govt claims
I always questioned having a nanny for your children who comes from a culture with values not all that similar to yours. And who will probably pass these on. Children are very impressionable. They could be taught to become Venezuelan gang members....right under Mummy's nose.
It’s not the pay it’s the insider information they trade on
Term limits would not solve this problem. The Democratic politicians who publicly demonstrate against ICE are in safe Democratc districts that no Republican would ever win.
We already have term limits.... elections. Sadly, those require an electorate with enough wisdom, judgement and independence from ego to make rational choices. But we don't behave rationally.
I know, right? "We need term limits!" Translation: "Stop me before I vote for that schmuck again!"
Yeah, kinda, Indecisive decider. I hear the "elections" argument a lot, of course. But unfortunately our system has devolved into an Incumbent Protection Program. Our local congresswoman in New Jersey has an office in town with a shiny, heavy metal plaque on the front of the building announcing her presence, so she clearly isn't planning to go anywhere. They have the name recognition, the funding pipeline, the donor connections, the office "petty cash," and the hearings grandstanding videos to cement their positions.
And in so many districts in the country, Left and Right, there is simply no viable alternative option. If you're a Republican and you want to build a career in politics, you just don't live on Martha's Vineyard.
I'm no fan of little pencil-necked David Hogg, but when he suggested to the DNC that it might be time for new blood, he was smacked down immediately by the entrenched interests.
Also not a fan of David Hogg, and yes, the DNC response to his "suggestions" was interesting. My concern is...what kind of far-left people would they suggest for the "new blood"?
Well, yeah, LSH, that's the problem, isn't it? What is their suggestion? But that sounds like a "they" problem and not an "us" problem. Unfortunately, this is why they haven't turned down the temperature since Charlie Kirk's assassination. Because in order to stop calling everyone to the right of center Nazis and Fascists, they would have to replace the name-calling with actual policy suggestions and ideas, which they don't have.
If they don't like what's going on with immigration, crime, the economy, Israel/Hamas, Ukraine/Russia, education... what helpful tips could they provide?
They haven't any. That's why, in the wake of a political assassination just two weeks ago, we have the spectacle of the mentally deranged Keith Olbermann texting to Scott Jennings, "You're next, motherf*cker."
Appalling.
legacy politicians - those that were elected prior to social media - are vulnerable in ways they do not see. If 1000 people in a town show up and protest a city's initiatives, that legacy politician's career is in jeopardy. Look what is happening now in Austin with the city council removing items to be discussed to prevent public comment. Those Austin city council members are likely to be voted out of office in the next election. Their political careers are going to end and they'll have to find jobs working for Bezos' box of warehouses.
It's not as easy for politicians to hide from view anymore.
You sound steeped in central Texas politics, Indecisive decider; Bravo! We're in north Texas, just outside of Dallas.
But won't the current Austin city council folks be replaced by a similar confederacy of dunces?
Our daughter used to live near the stadium, now out in Pflugerville.
Austin is the blue dot in the red state, but all the cities are blue, really. %-)
I'm not that up on central TX politics unless they intersect with right to repair issues, and as it turns out this week, they do. Small world.
"It's disgraceful that members of Congress are demonizing law enforcement officials charged with enforcing laws that members of Congress have written and passed. They're putting people in danger for doing the jobs they were sent out to do by these very same people. Shameful. They're going to get someone killed. Again."
A very important point.
The obvious goal is violence. No one is being subtle about this.
BOTH parties in collusion have given us:
1) The attack of the "Intelligence Community"
2) Lawfare
3) Impeachment
4) Assassination
5) Next stop--war in the streets.
All because the internet and Trump pissed in their punch. And I'm pretty sure that they will start with number four from now on.
Society massively demonizing a certain segment of the population gives crazy people a ready made target to make sure they don't waste precious manic time trying to figure out who to strike out against. Without that, crazy people mostly attack people they know.
We know from recent history exactly how and why this is encouraged.
Create the social target and then agitate and unleash the crazies.
Also, both parties brought us censorship, unending war, the suppression of Epstein and the current g*noc*de in the Middle East, altho I have to give Mar-a-Gaza a special shout out for above and beyond. Likewise, the Russia Russia Russia bs was stupid beyond belief.
Not sure why you partially obscured "genocide" there. Is that now a banned word?
Because *genocide* is eggs-ackly what's going on there.
Enabled and propelled by Trump, just like it was by Biden (and would have been by Harris).
I've got zero patience for those here who refer to those barbarous "Hamas supporters". Because what Hamas did (basically a military operation) was like a walk in the park compared to what the murderous IDF had done and is doing and will do.
Well said. re the obscuration, I like to screw with our IDF AI overlords.
Well, who doesn't?
Political agreement in government just means we get extra screwed--which really doesn't seem fair at all.
Although they may be on to something here--if we come to political agreement, then they get extra screwed.
Might be worth a try. :)
Slavery moved from the South to California. Very efficient system.
Wow!
These people really get riled up when we try to take their cheap laborers away.
For them the illegals are not cheap labor - they are future Democratic voters.
Bingo!
If you want a bit of history on this tactic and its use in the West, it was initially thrust upon the masses in late 1960s Canada by then Prime Minister Pierre Troodo, who was also a Communist under cover, as well as a member of the nefarious Club of Rome. He saw distinct possibilities in being able to import guaranteed voters/votes for his party.
Both
They're both - two, two, two Democrat benefits in one!
Ding ding ding, Johnny, tell him what hes won!
This is what makes cults so dangerous. The ability to rationalize anything and to tamp down questions or doubts.
Bit of a cult expert here. Cults involve a herd of people who have succumbed to archetypes (see CG Jung) combined with a form of hypnotism.
What you see here in the WOKE-folk is people acting out a Collective Delusion. They are convinced their fantasy is real, though.
Appreciate you fine tuning the description. Truly. The more accurate to describe this , the better.
I figured the Germans had more accurate words to describe this than English.... here's how they see it:
Wahnsinn (madness, insanity, frenzy, lunacy, mania)
Verdrehtheit (confusion, garbledness)
Irrsinnigkeit (insanity, madness)
Idiotie (idiocy, imbecility, madness, lunacy)
Ooh, thanks for the mini German lesson! Not sarcasm, genuine, I shall make a point of using those words in inappropriate contexts! Fun!
Excellent descriptive vocabulary, ID.
Speaking of the words applicable to the 1930s German cult, I am re-reading (for the 4th or 5th time) American Prof. David Redles' book, "Hitler's Millennial Reich" (2005). Recommended.
Totalitarianism is the wider category to which cults belong. Any totalitarian group includes a leader or group of leaders, visible or behind the scenes. With a group narrative. And an accompanying herd.
Should any insider or outsider question the leader(s) or the group narrative, that herd will shun/smear/punish the dissenters.
As in heretic hunts.
Yes. As in Cancel Culture, Narcissistic discards, witch hunts, the allegations made in the False Memory Syndrome of the 80s/90s, and of course the executions under the medieval Spanish Inquisition.
Worst of all was the Germans under Hitler using the Jews as their group scapegoat. The number one "heretics"....apparently. And in 2025, most unfortunately, we see this particular scapegoating rising again.
And my FB feed is filled with dumpy white boomergals circulating handy tips for obstructing ICE if they ever run across any. They treat this like some kind of interactive dinner theater outing. I'm surprised they don't get the pussyhats out of the guest room closet. Not a single one of these bleating HR ladies would survive losing a gelcoat nail, much less getting knocked on their butts by an ICE agent in riot gear.
Sorry, couldn't watch the whole thing. It just raises my blood pressure.
Great footage, from what I watched, and thanks for being courageous enough to be there.
Check out alderman Lopez if you want to know what normal people think in Chicago. When I see crowds like that I think 1) they would never demonstrate against the drug dealers/gangs that are actually murdering people- they only yell at people they feel safe around 2) they are rich enough to not have to worry about work or they are paid to do this/are at work.
What is occurring might seem to some like an overcorrection, but the blame for the current situation lies squarely with the the former Administration, whose embrace of a lawless, open border brought us into a dire situation that must be remedied by force when necessary. In a sane world we'd have a much more calm and orderly immigration process instead of this veering between extremes.
We need immigration reform unfortunately we don’t have “leaders” willing to address it😞
I'm not sure how much reform we need, as far as I know, the laws are still similar to the what they were under Obama, but of course the usual suspects were silent. What we need at the moment is an actual border, the way our homes have doors and locks. For the future, we need the enforcement of such be durable no matter the capricious nature of the current Executive. It should simply be a matter of national defense.
If you have a degree in gender studies, the only jobs available are paid Antifa rioters. It's a living.
Don’t forget intersectional basket weaving
Too true!
Enforce the law without fear or favor. Don’t just arrest these cretins try, convict and imprison them.
Really. Every one of those remaining after the gathering was declared illegal should have been arrested AND CHARGED.
If an ugly, fat-assed woman is manhandled by rough men in masks and there is no camera present, does she still have an orgasm?
Steven!
Funny, but somehow gross. . .
That's a serious question. What the hell else is she doing there? It's protest porn for them
If you watch what they do, strategically it is very much military tactics. And it is also designed to pull other protesters into a highly emotional moment where they will join in and also physically attack the police.
The goal is to get enough people to attack the police so that the police retreat.
Video of the police retreating will then be used to encourage more people to join in future attacks.
And so on. And so on.
It's performative in the sense that they are trying to work the crowd, but there are very real strategic goals and tactics going on.
Now how much the linemen understand of plays or the machinations of owners is up to the lineman, but plays are being called and the players are playing their roles--aware or not.
It's well worth to watch these ICE videos just to watch the tactics and play calling on both sides.
I gotta admit, I like a good sporting event as well as the next guy. It's why I follow the Israel vs everybody war going on.
We use Woke sort of as a bucket of imbecilic ideas... a shorthand to describe the most easily manipulated to believe utter nonsense, but I do wonder what it will take to cure them of this.
When will they hit rock bottom? What will it take for them to see their own idiocy? Since it is a cult, how do you help lead someone to see their reality when they're fighting you the entire time?
I doubt they will ever have that awakening.
They are too convinced of their own moral superiority.
They'll have to lose everything to wake up. Like the people that lost their homes in Alta Dena and Pacific Palisades.
That's the thing though Id...they have nothing to lose. They don't have real jobs, they live in tiny urban apartments, and they don't have families to feed. For many of them, I suspect that participating in riots like this are the only social interactions they have. It's sad.
It was the loss or lack of community that lured several of the Charles Manson recruits into his "Family".
Community is vital to many human beings.
They have to be able to see that their gods have failed them. This often requires the deluded folk to hit rock bottom first.
Full of passionate intensity, as the worst among us are in difficult times. Let's hope the rest of us don't prove the corollary lack of all conviction.
And they lack all self-awareness, which makes them risible without any means of realizing that.
Most of them.....
A few awaken.
THAT is the $64,000 question.
I recommend the Substack of Julius Ruechel here, and his excellent article, "A Mind Too Broken to Repair".
Thanks for the tip. Incredible story. I wonder how many of the woke warriors truly are where the Namibian farmer was. Those that protest, block ICE vehicles and sadly those on college campuses (professors and students).... I think those people are too far gone. They are totaled, as an insurance company might say.
Cult-kid savior Ted Patrick had many successes, back in the 70s/80s. Problem was, he needed his clients to be a captive audience, or they would just walk out on him as he attempted deprogramming. Ted got himself arrested for that.
Back to the drawing board.
I guess it makes for interesting videos, but honestly, if there were no cameras present these fools would have no purpose. It's all theater for these "protestors"
What can I say? We are looking at more of the WOKE-folk, whose minds have snapped. Been captured.
One day I will tell you all about what the mind-capture is....and how it's done. For now....just watch.
Cowards that go home everyday to their social media, security, and comfort
The worst and most aggressive of these rioters are handsomely paid professional rioters. Many of the rest are useful idiots with TDS that get inflamed by the pros in the crowd. Anyone stupid enough to put their hands on a federal officer, block his vehicle deserves everything they get including being arrested and jailed. BUT who pays these assholes???
Exactly. Do these people not have jobs? How are they able to stand out there and act like imbeciles all day long, day after day? Who is paying them?
What’s wrong with the FBI and homeland security? It’s hard for me to believe they don’t know. I think I know. Snatch a couple of the obvious pros and threaten them with ten years breaking rocks in the hot sun and get them to sing!