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Lekimball's avatar

Here's the problem and I live in Michigan, raised my children near here and my parents grew up even closer: Muslims ARE making segregated civilizations and they do not have American values. They are not here to become Americans. Other minorities do not set up exclusionary societies--they like the idea of being an American. Their place of origin is secondary. If we allow this all over America, we will be sorry. It's the elephant in the room you are not discussing.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

Beautifully expressed. This is my belief as well. But I would use separate as opposed to secondary.

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Running Burning Man's avatar

It is not a religion to be protected any the 1st Amendment.

Not among the theologies the Founders wished to protect by the 1st Amendment.

Arrest,, detain, cuff and shackle. Then send to Saudi, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq.

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Charles Main's avatar

"Other minorities do not set up exclusionary societies"? Of course they do. For some it is based on religious belief and it is protected by the Constitution. No to mention the white nationalism plainly demonstrated here.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

Perhaps, sure like the Amish, or the ultra Orthodox Jews for example, however those groups don’t use violence and intimidation, don’t proselytize, don’t enforce their rules on others, and generally just want to be left alone. So, not a legitimate parallel.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

The Strange Death of Europe being the best example.

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John Rogitz's avatar

It's America. The First Amendment protects burning the US flag - and burning the Koran. It protects slapping inanimate objects with bacon. It protects all sorts of tasteless expressions. If it can enable the disastrous proliferation of Internet porn, it's a complete lack of perspective to call what Lang did "disruptive" or "Westboro" behavior - unless you have been co-opted by the belief that offending Muslims is an impermissible exception to all other permitted offenses.

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Gail Byrd's avatar

Muslims and Sharia law are not compatible with America and Western civilization.

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SH's avatar

Muslims come in all shapes and sizes, to say an extremely diverse population of 1 billion is incompatible with Western Civilisation despite being a part of “the west” for centuries, is, well, a reflection of the intelligence and education levels of this much vaunted civilisation in today’s world.

As for Sharia law, it’s not good, but pray do tell me where in the West the existing laws of the land are actually being superseded. Not in individual practice that is a violation of the law, not in people’s heads, but actually in black and white on paper. Until then, this is just a hysterical straw man argument from people who’d like to think their racist asses are actually enlightened.

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Running Burning Man's avatar

"despite being a part of “the west” for centuries"

That is utterly stupid.

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Shelley's avatar

You must not live in NYC, Tennessee, Texas . . .

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Vet nor's avatar

FYI - In the West:

UK Government Advertises for a Shariah Law Administrator

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M Dowling -

July 27, 2025

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The UK’s Labour Government website advertised for a “Shariah Law Administrator.”

The job advertisement was shared by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) as a company called Manchester Community Centre seeks a legal assistant with a specialist knowledge of sharia law to help the area’s Muslim population.

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Shelley's avatar

I'll pass the bit along. Thanks.

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SH's avatar

No, I do live in NYC. The laws of the NYC and NY state are the same as they always have been. Unless your barometer for "Shariah Law" is the mere existence of Muslims and them getting elected to political positions. Which, it pretty much seems is the case.

As for the Shariah Law Administrator, a job posting shared by the government but for a private sector company or NGO is not evidence that British law has been replaced by Shariah law. But good try there.

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Shelley's avatar

Yet, but much closer than the US is. It is a warning.

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MG's avatar

You're like a frog with water that's no quite boiling yet.

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novalvesprings's avatar

I agree, SH. The commentators who believe Sharia law is being practiced should learn the US laws. Our laws say that no other laws can supersede them. Period. The 10 Commandments say, "Thou shalt not steal." So, are stealing laws Christian laws? I live 15 miles from

Dearborn. It is disheartening to see the occasional ISIS flag in Muslim neighborhoods. That being said, I take the Reagan approach in my association with Muslims, Trust but verify. Most Muslims in Dearborn are immigrants or children of immigrants, as opposed to Europe, where most are refugees. Europe has problems because it lets undesirables reach critical mass. We don't need to march in Dearborn. What did it solve? Just wear your cross or flag pin when visiting. Great Shawarma.

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Zach Birchall's avatar

I disagree. What Lang did was disruptive and corrupts any legitimate complaints against the Islamization of the country. Now the rhetoric will be that anyone who says that there are concerning aspects of Islam is like Lang. He will be the comparison now and it is disappointing because there are legitimate criticisms of Islam and its compatibility with Western values. I do however agree with you that Lang had every right to do everything he did, but I also think it is important to criticize that kind of behavior because it is, in my opinion, the worst way to voice your criticisms and concerns about Islam’s compatibility with Western society.

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Pscheff's avatar

He’s not going to be taken that seriously

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SH's avatar

Just because it’s allowed does not mean it can’t be called distasteful or even condemned. The First Amendment protects you against persecution and nothing else. And yet First Amendment blowhards stay whinging any time they hear the slightest criticism of abhorrent uses of this protected right.

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John Rogitz's avatar

You have no idea what the First Amendment says, much less how the Supreme Court has interpreted the speech clause over the years, do you?

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SH's avatar

So... is he getting persecuted for this? Then argue that. What point are you trying to make exactly? What violation of his First Amendment rights are going on here? As I read it, you took umbrage with his actions being labelled a certain way in the article and then brought up the First Amendment. It's a big jump but perhaps I missed something here.

And no, I have no obligation to use my full name here, just as you apparently have no obligation to make a cogent argument.

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John Rogitz's avatar

And by the way, if you wish to have a conversation with me, you will use your real name.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

PROSECUTION Not “Persecution”. Very different things.

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Running Burning Man's avatar

You are an idiot.

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Stephen D Moore's avatar

Islamic Cancer. It’s metastasizing.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Uk is being conquered. Do we want that to happen here? I don't agree with that dude's tactics, but I understand the sentiment.

- The mayor of Rotherham is Muslim

-The mayor of London is Muslim

- The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim

- The mayor of Leeds is Muslim

- The mayor of Blackburn is Muslim

- The mayor of Sheffield is Muslim

-The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim

- The mayor of Luton is a Muslim

-The mayor of Oldham is a Muslim

- The mayor of Rochdale is a Muslim

This is not immigration, it's an invasion by 7th century ideological marauders....and murderers...

You are sadly mistaken if you don't think that can happen here.

Obama imported 70k Somalian immigrants into Minnesota where they all settle in the 5th district.

The district has been identified as the capital of terrorist recruitment in thr US. It just so happens that Ilhan Omar represents that district and has called for the dissolution of Homeland Security...which i agree with...but i don't think they have the same reason for wanting that.

Do ya'll see the picture yet?

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Austin Sawyer's avatar

and those Somali's went on to commit Medicare fraud claiming their children are Autistic so they can send that money back to Somalia to fund Terrorism. At least 10m dollars last year we aren't talking about pocket change. People need to realize that many immigrants just see America as an economic zone to exploit, not a country that they identify as a part of.

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Bill Cribben's avatar

This is not written by Matt.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Oh, shit my bad. Thx for the clarification

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John Greene's avatar

Didn’t the English empire basically annex many Muslim majority countries in its imperial heyday?? The result is plenty of two way traffic between the UK and its colonies.

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

Ah, the old “two wrongs DO make a right argument”

For fuck’s sakes🤦‍♂️

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Lois Lassiter's avatar

I'm very moderate about most things. About this, I am NOT.

Islamists want to eradicate every other religion, period.

They say it all the time.

Look at the countries they turned into theocracies. As a loudmouthed female, I don't want Muslims anywhere near me unless they can assimilate to OUR way of doing things.

This is nonnegotiable.

Do you think they wouldn't burn a bible or a Torah? Remember them blowing up ancient Buddhas?

How come they are permitted every freedom to say anything about anyone.....but if someone responds in kind, they are shamed.

If Muslims want to live here, they must do it as westernized Muslims.

I will NEVER wear a veil. NEVER.

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Austin Sawyer's avatar

All sorts of people specifically come out and riot burning bibles and American flags and you guys will opine on free speech and talk about constitutional principles but this Lang guy can get assaulted on camera and the whole story is "Look at this mean man saying mean things"

No amount of propaganda is going to convince actual Americans that a city in the middle of Michigan with 70% Arab population is normal or sustainable so lets just not talk about any of that at all and look at that mean guy over there.

Same reason Racket avoids anything Israel related like the plague, because you know your actual positions are completely indefensible to someone who actually puts America First

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Brent Snyder's avatar

This type of activism (burning bibles, cynical satanist celebrations etc) has worked for the left in the past by baiting Christians into bad behavior.

I have my doubts that this strategy will be effective from the right because the logic repressive tolerance goes deep in the justice system, especially in strongholds like Dearborn where the police can refuse to do anything about violence in response to speech.

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SH's avatar

Then move to Dearborn and dilute the population! What is your solution to natural flows of migration and settlement? That the country dictate who gets to live where based on their religion and the colour of their skin? Yeah that doesn’t sound problematic and authoritarian at all…

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Austin Sawyer's avatar

"Natural flows of migration and settlement"

Yeah show me where the 70% white populations are in Africa and the Middle East. The one country in Africa that was majority white was sanctioned to death by the west for crime of declaring independence from the UK

The idea that the millions and millions of immigrants pouring illegally into the country while the elites make sure they import as many "refugees" as possible to undercut the blue collar American worker is at all natural is asinine

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Vet nor's avatar

That'd be great IF they moved there independently. However, the Obama administration and the Biden administration dropped them off there by the plane load. Instant Muslim majority city

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SH's avatar

I've never heard of this. I know in other countries they give priority to immigration if you choose to live in certain parts of the country, but that's usually to fill certain needs and maybe also to spread out the population although that's never explicitly stated. If you have any literature on this specific policy, I would love to read it.

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Fawkette's avatar

I cheered when I heard Lang’s speech. We need to be proactive on this issue or the West is conquered.

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Paul Dzielinski's avatar

Muslims in America do far worse things to jews and other Americans in general. Why is this even a story? IMO, pushback against radical Islam needs to be harder and more often.

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Steve Smith's avatar

I'm pretty sure if christians took over a muslim city there would be bloodshed. See Nigeria for proof.

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Vet nor's avatar

That is because NIGERIANS who converted to Christianity are being murdered by Islamists. They did not "take over" They found a different calling. Not allowed by Muslims.

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GB HeBe's avatar

Jake Lang and Tommy Robinson are what happens when another culture moves into your home and takes over, and politicians provide no guardrails.

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Jeffery's avatar

“ Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every strategy of war.” Koran 9:5

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Joe Bruno's avatar

Yeah, yeah. Lang is coarse, what else is new? But what of Ford Fischer's finger-wagging at Lang's casual use of the "n-bomb"? The word is protected speech. Check out a Dave Chappelle routine if you don't believe me.

We don't have a K-bomb for Jews, an M-bomb for Irish, a G-bomb for Italians or an S-bomb for Puerto Ricans. So how long are we supposed to be so supportive of any and all sensitive fellow Americans that we are ashamed to say the n-word, even if we don't want to say it? We all need to get over ourselves. There is nothing inherently weaker about black-skinned people than any others. And treating them as if they were is to do them a disservice. It's racist! The compensation has become a pathology and it's not doing us any good, no matter what shade of skin one has.

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MR's avatar
1hEdited

I recommend looking at the videos produced by MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute). They translate what is actually being preached in mosques all across the U.S. and the rest of the world. They are not hiding their intentions. Islam is a religion of conquest. One can convert, submit and pay the protection tax—jizya—or be killed. Nothing has changed in 1400 years of their conquest and colonization. They are playing the long game and are doing quite well for themselves.

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Jeffery's avatar

Don’t all Muslims believe the Korean? “So fight them until there is no more fitnah (disbelief) and all (the world) submit to the religion of Allah alone. Koran 8:39

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Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

Best typo ever!

You don’t believe the “Korean”?!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Jeffery's avatar

These quotes are from page 54 of the book by Brigitte Gabriel, titled ‘They Must be Stopped’.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Only a matter of time before this escalates to images of mohammad doing some things to tennis rackets wrapped in bacon. That's where this is going.

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Bill Cribben's avatar

Easily this week’s dumbest comment.

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