Huh. Well, if I read this right, you seem to believe that this Build Back Better Bill is something that will actually benefit poor people instead of being wasted by a totally incompetent government and adding to our national debt exponentially. It will also include all kinds of garbage that curtails freedom. I am with you on allowing …
Huh. Well, if I read this right, you seem to believe that this Build Back Better Bill is something that will actually benefit poor people instead of being wasted by a totally incompetent government and adding to our national debt exponentially. It will also include all kinds of garbage that curtails freedom. I am with you on allowing people to protest, though I haven't heard why they were arrested yet, either. I doubt they'll be held long. Leftists are usually allowed to protest and ruin cities without many consequences.
This is somewhat true, I presume, but irrelevant. That is not how all places were policed anyway in this country. You write this like you think everybody lives in Chicago or New York City. Maybe Chicago. That is not how small town America was policed. And nobody was policed like THIS lately. You can argue that society has not been fair to black people, but Democrat policies have added to this, not helped. They needed mentoring and education and charter schools, not programs that created a dependent society. No matter what, you can't allow lawlessness like has been happening in these cities now. Defunding police. And then just letting them right back out with no consequences. There are a lot of problems here, but you are not addressing them. People are drowning and you are describing the water anyway. And you people always think you can fix one "inequity" by doing more inequities. Multiple wrongs are not solutions. They aren't even vengeance because they are hurting the people you profess to help.
Charter schools are irrelevant to crime? As a good leftist, you should know that crime happens because of the environment these people are raised in. Actually, we good libertarians (and most conservatives) know this, too. Biden and his cronies have supported the teachers' unions over the kids. Teachers who are so poor they wouldn't understand teaching students how to think vs. brainwashing if their lives depended on it. That's also why we are on this site because a free exchange of ideas is not allowed anymore. Duh. If they fixed education and stopped buying votes with programs that perpetuate a dependent society, promising things they will not even DO, but if they DID will NOT help their society, and used that money to really help these people with decent education and promoting a stable family life, crime would go down. Duh. YOU are the vague one. You are more interested in quoting people and sounding smart than you are about solutions. Oh, and I think money should be invested in better police training, but not doing what they are doing. Nor should it be framed this way. And this breaking into places is NOT happening just in these isolated places like you think. In small town Michigan, they are repeatedly breaking into my brother's mini-storage business. It's happening everywhere. Same sort of behavior and he hasn't been able to stop it. FOUR times. Now they have surveillance linked right to the police department and they caught one of them. Anyway, whatever.
Holy crap. This is ridiculous. Why do you think Matt is on substack here and Glenn Greenwald? Matt was not invited on legacy media because he didn't agree with the Russia-gate stuff. He was being censored and he's been attacked by them repeatedly. He's been complaining about Big Tech and what happened with Hunter's laptop to reputable people trying to cover it. What planet are you on? And you better BELIEVE I was censored by my press and worked out of my place in the queue at the university I taught for my views (because I didn't fill out my self evaluation on time because I was down with my son at Karmanos Cancer Center). They did it because I had supported the president of the university on his position that the university should take NO political positions. The head of the English Dept. attacked me publically for that and they worked me out. I didn't fight them because obviously I had enough on my hands. My press when I complained about literary "theory" curriculum in my latest book (usually I published fiction, but this was a literary weird memoir/woodfire cookbook), unfriended me and refused to reply to even an email or phone call. Obviously, they had published me before. Wayne State. Any unwoke person is being censored on Big Tech, in universities and more. Even some liberal writers like Margaret Atwood have published their concerns about the free exchange of ideas in our universities. Published in the Atlantic -- to their credit they have expressed concerns about this a few times. That is why substack EXISTS. Are you seriously this oblivious? Sorry, I'm rambling some here, but you have to be kidding. I'm too tired to go back and make this post clearer. You clearly don't grasp the mess our society is in if you think nobody is being censored. SO I'll stop there.
You do fine in the insult and name calling department. And NO, if libertarians or conservatives were doing this, I'd be every bit as against it. I would NEVER silence them, trust me. I know if we don't hear disagreement, we are not free. Big Tech and this authoritarian administration have added a whole different element to this. And heavy-handed things with surveillance and IRS issues and more that should terrify anyone who considers himself a civil libertarian. I am not saying it never happened before. You didn't just ask me when I'd been censored, you said, "when in your life have you EVER not been allowed to talk" or whatever you said. Well, of course, as a libertarian and since I lived off the grid on solar power and walked much of their walk, I was allowed to be published by the left intellectuals who completely monopolize university presses. But when they found out I was criticizing literary "theory" --for various reasons -- all which was leading up to critical race theory -- I was completely silenced. Of course, they wouldn't have published me at all if they'd known it earlier. Good writing should be published at universities and not just one political position. I am sure people have been censored before and no, I am NOT for that. Thank you for that insult. This is happening in a way I never thought I'd see in this country. You ought to see that. Anyway, I see you wrote some other insulting thing. I can't see it yet, but will try to ignore it and make my grocery list.
Having worked previously at two different academic presses, and having read many of your comments here, I'm going to hazard a guess that your being "silenced" wasn't a case of actually being silenced, and that your critical take on critical theory played no part in "sorry, no book deal."
You are patronizing and insulting, don't kid yourself. I was a bit more personally insulting to your patronizing tone in response than I usually am instead of sticking more to issues. I apologize. We've had a horrible few weeks here, but no excuse, really.
Mango---you're trafficing in corporate propaganda. After I read my third or so "smash-and-grab" piece I started to laugh. Funny, how the right can groove on the bullshit from the MSM when the MSM bullshit gibes with their own bullshit.
Why has the Mayor of San Francisco changing her tune? Because her corporate overlords are seeing the negative effects on their businesses. You can turn a blind eye to what you see, but that doesn't change the situation. Retail corporate entities profited massively from the lockdowns and riots by having their small local competition eliminated. Now it's turning on them.
And of COURSE these things are happening --the smash and grab -- for political reasons -- it's because of this left narrative of defunding the police and because of these ridiculous lockdowns that are compromising our whole society. Isolating people, causing huge mental problems. Nightmare. There are so many reasons for this--mostly caused by leftist idiot narratives. Again, there are improvements to be made, but the left's solutions are NOT solutions--anyway, I am seriously done here.
You don't have "hard facts" for your opinions. It seems obvious to me we didn't have this kind of smashing and grabbing until we defunded the police and promoted that narrative. Seems so obvious it's ridiculous. No, this type of stuff happened before the lockdowns, was heading that way, but the lockdowns are increasing it now for sure. People are not relating properly to one another as real people. There is plenty of unrest in other countries that have overdone this, like Australia, etc. So I do not think this is just America. I don't think we needed fewer police; we needed to support them--it's a thankless job -- and we needed to provide better training. There are bad ones like in every other walk of life. Education is the key to everything, but proper education and freedom, free expression. Instead, we are demonizing whole sectors of society. Like policemen. Old white men. It's a shame. Where are YOUR solutions? I haven't heard one.
Police departments were not "defunded." Police budgets have risen, and those departments where budgets were nominally decreased are not only seeing the cuts restored, but even increased.
At any rate, isn't it a had-and-fast tenant of the right that most government programs are bloated and ought to be slashed? No bloat like American police department bloat. The average municipal police force could successfully invade and occupy half the world's sovereign nations. No "hard" facts here, just a "hunch."
Oh please, whatever. I'm old enough to know how policing worked in the small towns I lived in without having to read some woke intellectual take on it. I was there. And I'm an adjunct professor. So I know how these narratives all work. Just because you are quoting quasi-intellectual people doesn't make it all correct or necessarily prove any of this. Nor is any of it a solution. I agree on the dangers of citizen surveillance and I'm certainly not for these authoritarian moves or I wouldn't be on this site, but this is much truer of urban cities than all of America. And this defunding thing has affected police departments everywhere, not just in a few places. They needed improvement but this narrative HAS impacted all of this. At the very least, the laws should be applied impartially. You don't throw people who haven't even been tried into prisons for 8 months while you let others out almost immediately, no matter what has happened in the past. Police departments do need better training, but they also needed support and that is NOT what they've gotten.
Yeah, you are so brilliant, you have to quote people to make your points. I know how this has worked a long time because I've been part of it. It's all leftist woke garbage. People like you just like to hear your head rattle. Anyway, you have not ONE solution besides blaming people which is pretty much what higher education does full time. Things are always someone else's fault and you think behaving poorly is justified because things were done poorly before. And there's something to be gained by dwelling on the past forever. And demonizing people. There ARE solutions to it, but tearing down society is not it. Anyway, I'm off here.
You clearly don't understand the complexity at all. Yes, you are blaming other people--the history of policing--which of course means white society, right? We intellectuals have to dwell in the past, don't we? Ok, whatever. Why don't you stop bringing all that up and offer solutions like I did? There ARE solutions, but none of these left solutions will fix anything. It is all about demonizing people who didn't personally do a thing. Instead of moving forward and making strides.
It's complex, yes, but maybe not as much as you want to believe. I actually believe charter schools would solve a huge chunk of this. ABout 80% of it. Good education and mentoring from whoever would help them most. But that would definitely be too easy for you, I can see.
All very true but two wrongs do not make a right. I fear what is going on now has much less of a chance being reversed than it was back then. The main difference between then and now is that there weren't nearly the tools of oppression that exist today (constant surveillance, absolute control of the media and therefore newspeak, burgeoning world-wide censorship, etc). Additionally, the populace has been the frog in the boiling water too long now and most people appear to be too stupid, incapable or unwilling to examine issues intelligently or objectively. The youth are fully indoctrinated and learning how to debate and socialize since the draconian COVID bullshit has been destroyed.
Well, I don't support mean-spirited name-calling, but the main source for the text you copied was indeed the Marxist Sidney L. Harring, so he's not totally off-base.
He's a Marxist sociologist who writes from an openly Marxist perspective, and his recognizably Marxist history of policing comprised the bulk of your comment. The inference that you share a Marxist perspective is not totally off-base.
Huh. Well, if I read this right, you seem to believe that this Build Back Better Bill is something that will actually benefit poor people instead of being wasted by a totally incompetent government and adding to our national debt exponentially. It will also include all kinds of garbage that curtails freedom. I am with you on allowing people to protest, though I haven't heard why they were arrested yet, either. I doubt they'll be held long. Leftists are usually allowed to protest and ruin cities without many consequences.
This is somewhat true, I presume, but irrelevant. That is not how all places were policed anyway in this country. You write this like you think everybody lives in Chicago or New York City. Maybe Chicago. That is not how small town America was policed. And nobody was policed like THIS lately. You can argue that society has not been fair to black people, but Democrat policies have added to this, not helped. They needed mentoring and education and charter schools, not programs that created a dependent society. No matter what, you can't allow lawlessness like has been happening in these cities now. Defunding police. And then just letting them right back out with no consequences. There are a lot of problems here, but you are not addressing them. People are drowning and you are describing the water anyway. And you people always think you can fix one "inequity" by doing more inequities. Multiple wrongs are not solutions. They aren't even vengeance because they are hurting the people you profess to help.
Charter schools are irrelevant to crime? As a good leftist, you should know that crime happens because of the environment these people are raised in. Actually, we good libertarians (and most conservatives) know this, too. Biden and his cronies have supported the teachers' unions over the kids. Teachers who are so poor they wouldn't understand teaching students how to think vs. brainwashing if their lives depended on it. That's also why we are on this site because a free exchange of ideas is not allowed anymore. Duh. If they fixed education and stopped buying votes with programs that perpetuate a dependent society, promising things they will not even DO, but if they DID will NOT help their society, and used that money to really help these people with decent education and promoting a stable family life, crime would go down. Duh. YOU are the vague one. You are more interested in quoting people and sounding smart than you are about solutions. Oh, and I think money should be invested in better police training, but not doing what they are doing. Nor should it be framed this way. And this breaking into places is NOT happening just in these isolated places like you think. In small town Michigan, they are repeatedly breaking into my brother's mini-storage business. It's happening everywhere. Same sort of behavior and he hasn't been able to stop it. FOUR times. Now they have surveillance linked right to the police department and they caught one of them. Anyway, whatever.
Holy crap. This is ridiculous. Why do you think Matt is on substack here and Glenn Greenwald? Matt was not invited on legacy media because he didn't agree with the Russia-gate stuff. He was being censored and he's been attacked by them repeatedly. He's been complaining about Big Tech and what happened with Hunter's laptop to reputable people trying to cover it. What planet are you on? And you better BELIEVE I was censored by my press and worked out of my place in the queue at the university I taught for my views (because I didn't fill out my self evaluation on time because I was down with my son at Karmanos Cancer Center). They did it because I had supported the president of the university on his position that the university should take NO political positions. The head of the English Dept. attacked me publically for that and they worked me out. I didn't fight them because obviously I had enough on my hands. My press when I complained about literary "theory" curriculum in my latest book (usually I published fiction, but this was a literary weird memoir/woodfire cookbook), unfriended me and refused to reply to even an email or phone call. Obviously, they had published me before. Wayne State. Any unwoke person is being censored on Big Tech, in universities and more. Even some liberal writers like Margaret Atwood have published their concerns about the free exchange of ideas in our universities. Published in the Atlantic -- to their credit they have expressed concerns about this a few times. That is why substack EXISTS. Are you seriously this oblivious? Sorry, I'm rambling some here, but you have to be kidding. I'm too tired to go back and make this post clearer. You clearly don't grasp the mess our society is in if you think nobody is being censored. SO I'll stop there.
You do fine in the insult and name calling department. And NO, if libertarians or conservatives were doing this, I'd be every bit as against it. I would NEVER silence them, trust me. I know if we don't hear disagreement, we are not free. Big Tech and this authoritarian administration have added a whole different element to this. And heavy-handed things with surveillance and IRS issues and more that should terrify anyone who considers himself a civil libertarian. I am not saying it never happened before. You didn't just ask me when I'd been censored, you said, "when in your life have you EVER not been allowed to talk" or whatever you said. Well, of course, as a libertarian and since I lived off the grid on solar power and walked much of their walk, I was allowed to be published by the left intellectuals who completely monopolize university presses. But when they found out I was criticizing literary "theory" --for various reasons -- all which was leading up to critical race theory -- I was completely silenced. Of course, they wouldn't have published me at all if they'd known it earlier. Good writing should be published at universities and not just one political position. I am sure people have been censored before and no, I am NOT for that. Thank you for that insult. This is happening in a way I never thought I'd see in this country. You ought to see that. Anyway, I see you wrote some other insulting thing. I can't see it yet, but will try to ignore it and make my grocery list.
Having worked previously at two different academic presses, and having read many of your comments here, I'm going to hazard a guess that your being "silenced" wasn't a case of actually being silenced, and that your critical take on critical theory played no part in "sorry, no book deal."
You are patronizing and insulting, don't kid yourself. I was a bit more personally insulting to your patronizing tone in response than I usually am instead of sticking more to issues. I apologize. We've had a horrible few weeks here, but no excuse, really.
Mango---you're trafficing in corporate propaganda. After I read my third or so "smash-and-grab" piece I started to laugh. Funny, how the right can groove on the bullshit from the MSM when the MSM bullshit gibes with their own bullshit.
https://twitter.com/equalityAlec/status/1470089971079913472
Why has the Mayor of San Francisco changing her tune? Because her corporate overlords are seeing the negative effects on their businesses. You can turn a blind eye to what you see, but that doesn't change the situation. Retail corporate entities profited massively from the lockdowns and riots by having their small local competition eliminated. Now it's turning on them.
And of COURSE these things are happening --the smash and grab -- for political reasons -- it's because of this left narrative of defunding the police and because of these ridiculous lockdowns that are compromising our whole society. Isolating people, causing huge mental problems. Nightmare. There are so many reasons for this--mostly caused by leftist idiot narratives. Again, there are improvements to be made, but the left's solutions are NOT solutions--anyway, I am seriously done here.
You don't have "hard facts" for your opinions. It seems obvious to me we didn't have this kind of smashing and grabbing until we defunded the police and promoted that narrative. Seems so obvious it's ridiculous. No, this type of stuff happened before the lockdowns, was heading that way, but the lockdowns are increasing it now for sure. People are not relating properly to one another as real people. There is plenty of unrest in other countries that have overdone this, like Australia, etc. So I do not think this is just America. I don't think we needed fewer police; we needed to support them--it's a thankless job -- and we needed to provide better training. There are bad ones like in every other walk of life. Education is the key to everything, but proper education and freedom, free expression. Instead, we are demonizing whole sectors of society. Like policemen. Old white men. It's a shame. Where are YOUR solutions? I haven't heard one.
Police departments were not "defunded." Police budgets have risen, and those departments where budgets were nominally decreased are not only seeing the cuts restored, but even increased.
At any rate, isn't it a had-and-fast tenant of the right that most government programs are bloated and ought to be slashed? No bloat like American police department bloat. The average municipal police force could successfully invade and occupy half the world's sovereign nations. No "hard" facts here, just a "hunch."
You're a lousy propagandist.
https://news.yahoo.com/cities-across-u-restoring-police-220639210.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-city-budget-police-funding/
Oh please, whatever. I'm old enough to know how policing worked in the small towns I lived in without having to read some woke intellectual take on it. I was there. And I'm an adjunct professor. So I know how these narratives all work. Just because you are quoting quasi-intellectual people doesn't make it all correct or necessarily prove any of this. Nor is any of it a solution. I agree on the dangers of citizen surveillance and I'm certainly not for these authoritarian moves or I wouldn't be on this site, but this is much truer of urban cities than all of America. And this defunding thing has affected police departments everywhere, not just in a few places. They needed improvement but this narrative HAS impacted all of this. At the very least, the laws should be applied impartially. You don't throw people who haven't even been tried into prisons for 8 months while you let others out almost immediately, no matter what has happened in the past. Police departments do need better training, but they also needed support and that is NOT what they've gotten.
"I'm old enough to know..."
Mango's going pretty far back in history here. Are you immortal?
Yeah, you are so brilliant, you have to quote people to make your points. I know how this has worked a long time because I've been part of it. It's all leftist woke garbage. People like you just like to hear your head rattle. Anyway, you have not ONE solution besides blaming people which is pretty much what higher education does full time. Things are always someone else's fault and you think behaving poorly is justified because things were done poorly before. And there's something to be gained by dwelling on the past forever. And demonizing people. There ARE solutions to it, but tearing down society is not it. Anyway, I'm off here.
You clearly don't understand the complexity at all. Yes, you are blaming other people--the history of policing--which of course means white society, right? We intellectuals have to dwell in the past, don't we? Ok, whatever. Why don't you stop bringing all that up and offer solutions like I did? There ARE solutions, but none of these left solutions will fix anything. It is all about demonizing people who didn't personally do a thing. Instead of moving forward and making strides.
Hey man, fuck cops. That's all I'm saying.
No, don't fuck cops. Only the bad ones as well as Donald Trump and his legions of traitors.
It's complex, yes, but maybe not as much as you want to believe. I actually believe charter schools would solve a huge chunk of this. ABout 80% of it. Good education and mentoring from whoever would help them most. But that would definitely be too easy for you, I can see.
All very true but two wrongs do not make a right. I fear what is going on now has much less of a chance being reversed than it was back then. The main difference between then and now is that there weren't nearly the tools of oppression that exist today (constant surveillance, absolute control of the media and therefore newspeak, burgeoning world-wide censorship, etc). Additionally, the populace has been the frog in the boiling water too long now and most people appear to be too stupid, incapable or unwilling to examine issues intelligently or objectively. The youth are fully indoctrinated and learning how to debate and socialize since the draconian COVID bullshit has been destroyed.
Well, I don't support mean-spirited name-calling, but the main source for the text you copied was indeed the Marxist Sidney L. Harring, so he's not totally off-base.
He's a Marxist sociologist who writes from an openly Marxist perspective, and his recognizably Marxist history of policing comprised the bulk of your comment. The inference that you share a Marxist perspective is not totally off-base.