We need to face it -- Dick Cheney is flat out evil. He was in-charge of George W. Bush's VP search committee and to no one's shock or amazement he determined that "HE" was, in fact, the best choice to be VP. Need I say more?
Dick Cheney has every bit the huge ego of Donald Trump, but he has in spades what Trump lacked: the Deep State k…
We need to face it -- Dick Cheney is flat out evil. He was in-charge of George W. Bush's VP search committee and to no one's shock or amazement he determined that "HE" was, in fact, the best choice to be VP. Need I say more?
Dick Cheney has every bit the huge ego of Donald Trump, but he has in spades what Trump lacked: the Deep State knowledge and credibility to bend it in any way he wants...
For Trump, everything was (and remains) about Trump. In many ways, his presidency typifies the dog that caught the car. There was no grand plan - that's not Trump. He concocted his plan as he went along, which explains why he got 'shot-up' so often by the Deep State.
As for Dick Cheney, he is all about the 'ends justify the means' and he knows exactly how to leverage the Deep State to get there. Clearly Cheney had a vision of the "New World Order," and critically, the massive ego to believe that only HE was capable of bringing it forth while destroying anyone (real or perceived) that might be standing in his way -- that is the quintessential definition of a dictator...
Obama inherited Cheney's tools and further weaponized the intelligence state.
As we sit here today, can anyone honestly say that they have MORE trust in any of the 'intelligence' entities (CIA, NSA, FBI, DOJ, etc.)?
This is why people like Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald and others have challenged the way the MSM propaganda narrative is characterizing events. As Matt points out, those MSM characterizations are being used as the rationale for further "technological elimination" of democracy... Thus, no surprise that Cheney is right there, front and center in full support.
Let's hope more people start questioning things by THINKING for themselves before it's too late.
One point worth mentioning is that as warmongering as the Bush presidency was, and as overaggressive as the intelligence state was, there were very few references to referring to Americans as "Domestic Terrorists" nor were the levers of power used against American citizens.
Cheney as "evil" as he was, did not direct the power of the State at her people (surveillance, perhaps, but not interrogation, imprisonment, etc.) . That's a more Leftist tendency. See: The Russiagate Hoax on Trump, the IRS harassment of Conservatives under Obama, the harassment of leakers under Obama, the spying on journalists under Obama, the jailing of journalists under Obama, the 1/6 rioters imprisonment, AG Garland calling upset parents "terrorists."
The benefit, if it could be called that, of the MSM going crazy over the last five years, is that the Right has come to realize the dangers of that much power in the hands of the State. We have in, effect, started to recite the "First they came ... poem." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... )
The Right has been "red-pilled" - and the likelihood of this continuing under Republicans in power has at least lessened. With any justice/luck, with the next Republican presidency and Congress, some of this deep state and intelligence state (put in place by the Bush Presidency and enhanced and expanded under Obama) can get rolled back.
::Cheney as "evil" as he was, did not direct the power of the State at her people (surveillance, perhaps, but not interrogation, imprisonment, etc.) . ::
Remember the War Criminal Bush Regime calling anybody who dared to speak out against their excesses "Traitors" and "Anti-Americans"?
Because, as somebody on that "Left" you hate so much, I sure do!
To your point, I think everyone on the "right" was wrong, me included. I now see how wrong I was and I like to believe that I'm big enough to admit it.
And all that is what makes the current situation so paradoxical. People on the 'left' uniting with people on the 'right' because as free thinkers it is quite clear that neither the "Right" nor the "Left" really exist.
There is only the Deep State (and those who benefit from it) and the unwashed masses whose thoughts and opinions the Deep State Elites plan to tightly control or "curate" (the new buzz word) using greater and greater technological means.
Any free-thinking person (regardless of political bent) will be regarded as a member of the "Other Party" and dealt with accordingly and by increasingly severe means...
For the greater good, social harmony must be maintained....AT ALL COSTS!!
The real 'rub' is that we have the unmitigated gall to look down our noses at China and Russia! We are the ones who perfected this techno-police state....
Yeah, I still haven't gotten an apology for being called a "Traitor" by the Bush Right...so, pardon me if I look at your "reaching across the aisle" with skepticism.
Also, I don't recollect Antifa attacking Congress when TRUMP won - though maybe we should have.
I hear you. I'm certainly not suggesting that there's an impending 'lovefest' anywhere on the horizon. My point was people need to be skeptical. No one (on the right or left) has any further excuse for being played.... Never said policy differences don't matter...
You may not have been near DC when Trump was inaugurated, but I was. DC was on TOTAL LOCKDOWN - blocked streets and armed military everywhere - I mean everywhere. Even with that presence, rioters caused significant damage just blocks from the parade route. The media said it was people in black masks. I don't believe shit from what they say, so was it Antifa? I don't know. But, several hundred of them were arrested and even given that the local Attorney General (Karl Racine) didn't prosecute a single person. Some poor smuck had his limousine torched. Lots of local banks and businesses were destroyed. The protestors seem to hate Starbucks for some reason. Any Trump supporters dumb enough to get near there got the crap beat out of them. No one cared. That's America, I guess. No, but you're exactly right, there weren't any Antifa at the Capital building.
The party of the Police State had bigger fish to fry. They were busy, shall we say. The 2016 presidential election should have been Trump v Bernie, but the "Police State" party had other ideas. And after they finished off Bernie (which was absolutely despicable and I'm not a Bernie Bro), this same group turned their attention to the "Orange Man" (which everyone seemed just peachy keen with). Run his fat ass around for a while - he could use the exercise.
Anyone see a pattern here? Call me crazy, but I do. Peace....
I don't mean to suggest I have any love whatsoever for Biden - sure, his company manners are better than Trump's, but my ex-Partner has neurotic cat who pees on everything, and SHE has better company manners than Trump! He's clearly, deeply a tool of the Deep State, which is what the Military-Industrial Complex merged into at the end of the Cold War, seeking out new enemies so we could toss money down a bottomless pit in new endless War. (You have to know how delighted they are that Putin's being so cooperative by behaving like "The Soviet Union" is still a viable entity rather than a rusted-out hulk.)
I couldn't help but notice that, for all the arm-waving about Bush and the erosion of civil liberties, neither Obama nor Trump did a thing to roll them back, and in fact took full advantage of the erosion for their own ends. I don't see either Julian Assange or Edward Snowden walking free on American soil, or in Assange's case ANY soil - like Teh Donald and Qween Hillary both, we as a nation have become thin-skinned and quick to retaliate against any perceived slight....
Appreciate the comments. I agree with a lot of what you stated, but I'm pretty sure the Bush administration used 9/11/2001 to direct the "Surveillance State" at all American citizens via various programs, including the PRISM program? I know for sure that GW defended doing so in 2013 when Snowden threw open the intel kimono.
Lots of Republicans drank the Kool-Aid - me included - but we have all now witnessed how far and how fast "incrementalism" can creep when it comes to losing rights.
I have zero faith that the current uni-party republicans and democrats will roll back anything... power is not easily surrendered...
Trump certainly has the balls, but he completely lacks the required focus. If he could have accomplished such a change via TWEETS, Trump would have changed the power dynamic immensely, but I'm not seeing someone out there who is a true change agent.
Exactly!! 👏👏👏👏 since the press does the total opposite of what they should be doing… we need an on screen Lie Detector so when these imperialistic politicians start spewing their obvious and condescending lies, we could register our level of belief.
We need to face it -- Dick Cheney is flat out evil. He was in-charge of George W. Bush's VP search committee and to no one's shock or amazement he determined that "HE" was, in fact, the best choice to be VP. Need I say more?
Dick Cheney has every bit the huge ego of Donald Trump, but he has in spades what Trump lacked: the Deep State knowledge and credibility to bend it in any way he wants...
For Trump, everything was (and remains) about Trump. In many ways, his presidency typifies the dog that caught the car. There was no grand plan - that's not Trump. He concocted his plan as he went along, which explains why he got 'shot-up' so often by the Deep State.
As for Dick Cheney, he is all about the 'ends justify the means' and he knows exactly how to leverage the Deep State to get there. Clearly Cheney had a vision of the "New World Order," and critically, the massive ego to believe that only HE was capable of bringing it forth while destroying anyone (real or perceived) that might be standing in his way -- that is the quintessential definition of a dictator...
Obama inherited Cheney's tools and further weaponized the intelligence state.
As we sit here today, can anyone honestly say that they have MORE trust in any of the 'intelligence' entities (CIA, NSA, FBI, DOJ, etc.)?
This is why people like Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald and others have challenged the way the MSM propaganda narrative is characterizing events. As Matt points out, those MSM characterizations are being used as the rationale for further "technological elimination" of democracy... Thus, no surprise that Cheney is right there, front and center in full support.
Let's hope more people start questioning things by THINKING for themselves before it's too late.
One point worth mentioning is that as warmongering as the Bush presidency was, and as overaggressive as the intelligence state was, there were very few references to referring to Americans as "Domestic Terrorists" nor were the levers of power used against American citizens.
Cheney as "evil" as he was, did not direct the power of the State at her people (surveillance, perhaps, but not interrogation, imprisonment, etc.) . That's a more Leftist tendency. See: The Russiagate Hoax on Trump, the IRS harassment of Conservatives under Obama, the harassment of leakers under Obama, the spying on journalists under Obama, the jailing of journalists under Obama, the 1/6 rioters imprisonment, AG Garland calling upset parents "terrorists."
The benefit, if it could be called that, of the MSM going crazy over the last five years, is that the Right has come to realize the dangers of that much power in the hands of the State. We have in, effect, started to recite the "First they came ... poem." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... )
The Right has been "red-pilled" - and the likelihood of this continuing under Republicans in power has at least lessened. With any justice/luck, with the next Republican presidency and Congress, some of this deep state and intelligence state (put in place by the Bush Presidency and enhanced and expanded under Obama) can get rolled back.
::Cheney as "evil" as he was, did not direct the power of the State at her people (surveillance, perhaps, but not interrogation, imprisonment, etc.) . ::
Remember the War Criminal Bush Regime calling anybody who dared to speak out against their excesses "Traitors" and "Anti-Americans"?
Because, as somebody on that "Left" you hate so much, I sure do!
To your point, I think everyone on the "right" was wrong, me included. I now see how wrong I was and I like to believe that I'm big enough to admit it.
And all that is what makes the current situation so paradoxical. People on the 'left' uniting with people on the 'right' because as free thinkers it is quite clear that neither the "Right" nor the "Left" really exist.
There is only the Deep State (and those who benefit from it) and the unwashed masses whose thoughts and opinions the Deep State Elites plan to tightly control or "curate" (the new buzz word) using greater and greater technological means.
Any free-thinking person (regardless of political bent) will be regarded as a member of the "Other Party" and dealt with accordingly and by increasingly severe means...
For the greater good, social harmony must be maintained....AT ALL COSTS!!
The real 'rub' is that we have the unmitigated gall to look down our noses at China and Russia! We are the ones who perfected this techno-police state....
Yeah, I still haven't gotten an apology for being called a "Traitor" by the Bush Right...so, pardon me if I look at your "reaching across the aisle" with skepticism.
Also, I don't recollect Antifa attacking Congress when TRUMP won - though maybe we should have.
I hear you. I'm certainly not suggesting that there's an impending 'lovefest' anywhere on the horizon. My point was people need to be skeptical. No one (on the right or left) has any further excuse for being played.... Never said policy differences don't matter...
You may not have been near DC when Trump was inaugurated, but I was. DC was on TOTAL LOCKDOWN - blocked streets and armed military everywhere - I mean everywhere. Even with that presence, rioters caused significant damage just blocks from the parade route. The media said it was people in black masks. I don't believe shit from what they say, so was it Antifa? I don't know. But, several hundred of them were arrested and even given that the local Attorney General (Karl Racine) didn't prosecute a single person. Some poor smuck had his limousine torched. Lots of local banks and businesses were destroyed. The protestors seem to hate Starbucks for some reason. Any Trump supporters dumb enough to get near there got the crap beat out of them. No one cared. That's America, I guess. No, but you're exactly right, there weren't any Antifa at the Capital building.
The party of the Police State had bigger fish to fry. They were busy, shall we say. The 2016 presidential election should have been Trump v Bernie, but the "Police State" party had other ideas. And after they finished off Bernie (which was absolutely despicable and I'm not a Bernie Bro), this same group turned their attention to the "Orange Man" (which everyone seemed just peachy keen with). Run his fat ass around for a while - he could use the exercise.
Anyone see a pattern here? Call me crazy, but I do. Peace....
Fair enough, I guess.
I don't mean to suggest I have any love whatsoever for Biden - sure, his company manners are better than Trump's, but my ex-Partner has neurotic cat who pees on everything, and SHE has better company manners than Trump! He's clearly, deeply a tool of the Deep State, which is what the Military-Industrial Complex merged into at the end of the Cold War, seeking out new enemies so we could toss money down a bottomless pit in new endless War. (You have to know how delighted they are that Putin's being so cooperative by behaving like "The Soviet Union" is still a viable entity rather than a rusted-out hulk.)
I couldn't help but notice that, for all the arm-waving about Bush and the erosion of civil liberties, neither Obama nor Trump did a thing to roll them back, and in fact took full advantage of the erosion for their own ends. I don't see either Julian Assange or Edward Snowden walking free on American soil, or in Assange's case ANY soil - like Teh Donald and Qween Hillary both, we as a nation have become thin-skinned and quick to retaliate against any perceived slight....
JakeD
Appreciate the comments. I agree with a lot of what you stated, but I'm pretty sure the Bush administration used 9/11/2001 to direct the "Surveillance State" at all American citizens via various programs, including the PRISM program? I know for sure that GW defended doing so in 2013 when Snowden threw open the intel kimono.
Lots of Republicans drank the Kool-Aid - me included - but we have all now witnessed how far and how fast "incrementalism" can creep when it comes to losing rights.
I have zero faith that the current uni-party republicans and democrats will roll back anything... power is not easily surrendered...
Trump certainly has the balls, but he completely lacks the required focus. If he could have accomplished such a change via TWEETS, Trump would have changed the power dynamic immensely, but I'm not seeing someone out there who is a true change agent.
It's all various shades of the same...
But, there's always hope..........
Dick Cheney types don't turn the Govt against Her People unless "Her People" are Muslim, or poor, or hippies...
...or Leftists of ANY stripe! To him, Hillary Rodham Clinton is about as "far Left" as he likes to get, and she's a Republican in all but Name.
Exactly!! 👏👏👏👏 since the press does the total opposite of what they should be doing… we need an on screen Lie Detector so when these imperialistic politicians start spewing their obvious and condescending lies, we could register our level of belief.