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Christofer Nigro's avatar

I think, Trembo, that it's delusional for workers to think that the State is somehow opposed to the capitalists rather than empowered by them to enforce their system of class rule. Or that the capitalists are somehow good guys if only the State would stop regulating them and leave them with absolutely no limits to how far they could take profit-eering... which would quickly destroy the system. The State acts on their behalf as their official managers, because the capitalists have the money, they are the chief donors to the politicians, they have countless contracts with the military, and the State routinely goes to war on their behalf. The State performs violence on the behalf of the capitalists, so they do not have to do it themselves.

However, more and more capitalists are hiring out mercenaries, like from the company formerly known as Blackwater, to largely take the place of the State-controlled military -- a hint of things to come if certain capitalists and Libertarians get there way and the capitalists end up eliminating the "middle man" and essentially becoming the government themselves. Then privatized police forces and military will be the ones committing the violence to enforce class rule.

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trembo slice's avatar

Define capitalists

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Christofer Nigro's avatar

The small handful of people who privately own productive property that workers use to create and distribute the products and services we need without having to do any significant work themselves and who retain the vast majority of the money made by sales and contracts because they own it on paper. And they have increasingly been making their fortune off of capital gains, i.e., investing in no-risk ventures that are guaranteed by the government, which once more puts paid to the idea that the government is the enemy of capitalists rather than their servant.

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