Matt hits this out of the park! I especially appreciate the wealth of detail (and Matt's shout out to Bari!) Absolutely one of Matt's best! Targeted for removal in 2020 which failed! And finally permanently removed in 4K live by an indoctrinated tool before the world.
This insane behavior was always going to culminate in one of their unhinged adherents firing bullets.
Who knew they had such an elaborate apparatus for silencing freeborn American citizens?
An ordinary person cannot even get a reason for a suspension or banning and yet they write these crazy gossipy mean girl notes back and forth with legacy press about real leaders, like Charlie?
No wonder gender critical feminists could never get any reach.
It seems we may never be allowed to graduate from the high school lunchroom to the public square, whilst these maniacs wield any power at all.
Blaming this on the left is exactly what the Zionists want. And it worked for about a day. The American left is not into assassinations by professional hit men. They don't like guns and don't know how to use them. Mossad, on the other hand, is very much into political assassinations. This smells like a false flag operation that killed two birds with one stone: Knock out an influential right-wing pundit who is starting to question Israel and blame it on the crazy libs.
Why does any comment that is less-than approving, of Zionists always result in an ad hominem attack, no matter what blog? So weird that such a mechanism is like, across the webs. Almost as if a PR firm was managing Israel's media. Oh wait...
To address a sociological group in some way is not an "ad hominem" attack. If i say "Jewish people in Australia are overrepresented in the fields of dentistry, banking and entertainment" this is not "ad hominem"
Claiming Zionists control US policy is not claiming a statistical truth. And what the fuck is “over” representation anyway? Since when do career path distributions track with demographic information? Women are “overrepresented” in nursing. Christians are “overrepresented” in the Catholic clergy. Muslims are overrepresented in…
It's known has hasbara, and there is a virtual army of people watching online forums to shoot down instantly any unfavorable comments about Israel and its genocidal campaign. BTW, hasbara is the hebrew equivalent of propaganda, and the Israelis have honed it like the sharpest knives.
Yes, every time I criticize the genocide being carried out by the Zionist entity, within minutes someone has been assigned to refute everything. It’s like clockwork. Some poster I’ve never heard from before suddenly has a long and insulting diatribe about how it’s all the fault of those kids who keep stepping in front of bullets.
I noticed this too. Someone always quickly reaches out to explain that I am anti Semitic for daring to ask such questions, and to wave the bloody shirt of 10/7.
It's sad yeah. I try to come from the place that most "zionists" or any other deeply psyoped group (which is us all) don't realise how much their elite has lied to them and manipulated them.
Finally you nailed it -- after reading the usual back n forth it is surprising people don't see your truth - how many Jews are just like me an American who only since 2019-2020 is seeing the world and my own country through new eyes, thanks to Trump Benz Taibbi others, and now Kirk. Need me a shirt Call me Charlie
I realize that like many w/ mental illness (yours is acute delusion) you fail to see it. I hope you have friends who are honest w/ you that aren't as anti-semitic as you that you can share you post and my comment w/ and ask for their honest opinion.
I am not antisemitic. I love and respect Judaism. My anger and disdain is towards Zioinsm, which is a perversion of an otherwise beautiful religion. Many Jews and Jewish organizations openly opposed the ongoing genocide in Gaza:
Medea Benjamin, Max Blumethal, Aaron Maté, Norman Finkelstein, Glenn Greenwald, Ilan Pappé, Katie Harper, Jill Stein, Naomi Wolf, Noam Chomsky, for example. Also, Jewish Voice for Peace, the Jewish Bloc, The International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, Jews for Justice for Palestinians, Jews Against the War on Gaza. Many Orthodox Jewish rabbis condemn the bad treatment of Palestinians.
Yes, spreading unfounded, deranged and delusional anti-Semitic conspiracy theories proves your love for the Jews. As does your list of the Hall of Fame of the world's most anti-Jewish Jews (many of whom, such as Norm Finkelstein, are obviously mentally ill).
Zionists are Jewish heretics. Most don't even believe in God. Zionists by their blatant racism and ethnic cleansing have precipitated worldwide disdain for Jews. Because of Zionist atrocities, Israel is the most hated nation in the world. Because of Zionist atrocities, the Israeli economy is falling apart. Recently, in a matter of 3 days Netanyahu attackes SIX neighboring countries. Netanyahu, to save his own skin, is bringing about the end of Israel. The world rejects genocide. The world rejects Zionist racism. The world rejects apartheid governments. Your support of Zionism will destroy Israel. Israel's worst enemy is you, not me.
Yes, up is down, your hatred is really love, "Next Year in Jerusalem" was just a joke, a defensive war is ethnic cleansing, attacking countries that keep launching missiles at you is an atrocity, Hamas and Hezbollah are gentle religious scholars, people hate Jews because of Israel (not because they hated them centuries before Israel even existed), and having compassion for the world's most hated minority and wanting them to live peacefully in their own country makes me their worst enemy. (And "Most don't even believe in God" !! lol)
You hit all the main points of the prototypical 21st-century Jew hater. Congrats!
As a Christian I reject the many horrors done in the name of Christianity - burning witches, heresy trials, the Crusades, colonialism, etc. You to be credible should categorically reject atrocities done in the name of Judaism.
I've been wondering lately why so many Jew haters are also prone to falling for the most deranged and moronic conspiracy theories and then it hit me: Both groups consist of the world's biggest losers who need to blame others for the fact that they smell bad and that they and their spouses are fat, failed and hideously ugly (if they have a spouse that's not a blow-up doll).
Yes, I'm aware of most of the people on your list. In fact, I had been a paid subscriber to several of their substacks.
I no longer am. Glenn was a long holdout, I only cancelled him this summer.
I suggest you watch Triggernometry's interview w/ Professor Finkelstein. It's a good litmus test of one's ability (yours) to think critically. And then watch a bit more of Konstantin Kisen when he describes his path to supporting Israel.
Furthermore, please note, that these people you support use 'Zionist' as code for anti-semitism. The most superficial study of the Holocaust will easily lead you to see descriptions of the particular dynamic of 'self-hating Jew' aberration.
I, for one make no distinction b/t a Zionist and a Jew. And Zionist is a big enough tent for me, a non Jew to also be a member of.
What astonishes me is your demonstrated ignorance of Middle East history while yet appearing to be reasonable.
Yeah, but an awful lot of people are scrambling to get out of the tent. Good on them for finally awakening to the fact of Israel's extreme cruelty and brutality.
I Samuel 15:3. "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”
From the New Testament read the Book of Revelation. It is more bloodthirsty than anything in all Islamic sacred texts. There is zero mention of love or compassion in Revelation, just throwing enemies into a lake of fire
As a Christian I love and respect followers of Islam. I have read the Quran. It honors and celebrates both Jews and Christians. It says Jews and Christians will be welcomed in Paradise. A whole chapter is dedicated to honoring the Virgin Mary. The Quran forbids the killing of innocent civilians. It says war is justified only in self defense. The most frequently used word in the Quran is peace.
Islam preaches eternal jihad until the caliphate is complete.
I Samuel 15:3 is a specific instance and it is very rare to find other examples like it in the Torah.
In contrast the Qur'an preaches violence, jihad, hatred for all infidels.
Proof in the pudding?
Judaism has existed for approximately 2,000 years longer than Islam. As of today there are fewer than 16 million Jews while there are close to two billion Muslims. Israel controls Israel and that's it. Islam spans the globe controlling upwards of 55 countries.
see above comment. Don't any of you have a low gear, or is it always the case wherein ANY comment not wholeheartedly endorsing Zionism is met with distain and insult?
I appreciate our exchange. I am just a Granny who wants my beloved grandbabies to have a decent world-like we had for most of my 70 years. Have a great weekend, Jim.
It’s hasbara. Every time a post critical of Israel comes up, within minutes someone is on the job rebutting it. And it’s always some stranger who you’ve never seen posting before. The MO is obvious.
You realise it's meaningless now to say this. The race thing has been weaponised to such a degree, it's basically impossible to have any kind of dialogue about it.
Ah yes, you are the kind of knuckle-dragging Neanderthal that the once-great Matt Taibbi, has now drawn into his fold. You want for me what the Zionists and Netanyahu want for the Palestinians - a painful and violent death Go to hell.
Bibi himself went to the UN and promoted "Greater Israel"... now, that's part of Egypt and Iraq, all of Jordan, all of Palestine, part of Lebanon and Syria. The goal then is a large zionist state of about 7 million first class citizans and client states of second class citizens, I dunno 20 million or so? The crac those folks with Bibi are smoking is sublime.
Matt's comments have been so taken over by Hasbara $s (note that if they can't convert you they will bludgeon you to bits with ridicules rhetoric so you don't come back)-- it is a distinct pattern.
Thanks for holding your ground and saying what most are thinking. Because saying them aloud is just about pointless anymore. I miss the emo hurt libs that used to hang out here.
Larry -- it's not that complicated. All Hamas needs to do to end the suffering of the people living in Gaza is release the hostages and go into exile. Don't let Zionism blind you to the unnecessary suffering of human hostages, both those taken on October 7 and those who live in Gaza and are getting bombed everyday because Hamas won't surrender.
Israel doesn’t give a shit about the hostages. Israeli soldiers shot and killed three escaped hostages that were waving a white flag and shouting out in Hebrew. On 10/7 IDF pilots in American provided helicopters shot and killed over a hundred Israeli citizens to prevent them from becoming hostages. Read about the Hannibal Directive.
Go fuck yourself, Bob. You are the one advocating the slaughter of innocent children, not me. You are the one advocating genocide, apartheid, forced starvation, prison camps, torturing and raping prisoners, murdering journalists and UN aid worker, bombing hospitals, using food as bait to draw children out so they can be shot in the head, poisoning drinking water, the utter destruction of the homes of 2 million people. If anyone belongs in the bottom pit of hell it is you.
I know it's hard for you to lose. As a delusional dick (that's you) it's hard to admit you are, well, a delusional dick. This is obvious (and fun to watch happen!).
So calm down, little boy, because I have some more reading for you.
Of course behind every evil deed lies the nefarious hand of the Jew. Jews are omniscient and omnipotent, always there even when invisible, always guilty even when they seem most innocent. If only there were some final solution to them...
These are your words, not mine. I never said anything like this. I greatly admire the Hebrew prophets who rejected everything Zionism stands for. I read and respect many Jewish authors. I voted for Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein, who are both Jewish. I am a disciple of Jesus, who was a Jewish rabbi and as distant from Zionism as anyone could imagine.
"Woe to those who put good for evil and evil for good. WHo put darkness for light and light for darkness. Who put bitter for sweet and seet for bitter."
There is quite a bit of evidence, a laid out by Max Blumenthal recently, that Charlie's views on Israel were evolving to a degree that alarmed the Israelis.
Having nothing to do with your obvious bias. Just explain to me how the Mossad recruited Mr Robinson and his grandfather’s rifle. I assume they must have planted the text messages to his roommate also or maybe he was an agent also. They must’ve had his entire family on the payroll too.
Subsequent information confirms your assessment; this was not a professional hit but rather a left-wing radicalized young man with a scope on a bolt-action rifle. More information is being revealed, but your assessment that the left does not engage in violence with a gun is not valid.
You could be right. It could be a distraction from Epstein and the Mossad link.
It could be deep state actors. Nothing would surprise me.
However, neither excludes the woke left from responsibility. There are lots of woke leftist antifa/transtifa types who are now in paramilitary groups. Look up the John Brown Gun Club or the Socialist Rifle Association.
I have to suspect you're on the left, and trying to avoid a very necessary introspection of your associations and beliefs. Hope you get past that.
I am on the left, but not a woke identity-politics Democrat. I also reject Antifa. I am pro-working class and antiwar. I, like most people on what I call the real left, reject violence, especially gun violence to achieve leftist goals. Yes, there are radical leftists who are interested in violent revolution, but they are fringe groups, not the norm - not even close. I am willing and eager to team up with conservatives on common causes - free speech, resisting foreign wars, rejecting vaccine mandates, debunking Russiagate, even the importance of famiy. I will never agree with them on economics. Actually, the Democrats agree with Republicans on economics more than I do (favoring corporate interests, tax breaks for the rich, too-big-to-fail bailouts, keeping salaries as low as possibe, outsourcing jobs etc).
Glad to hear it, Larry. Sounds like we'd have some good chats.
I hope you are actively speaking out against the woke left at every opportunity. The Democratic party is beyond lost.
I'm a libertarian - I used to have a lot in common with the left, but the left has gone full authoritarian and the right has adopted a lot of libertarian positions, making for strange times for me.
Strange times indeed! When I, a socialist find myself agreeing with with conservatives at least as much as I do with the new breed of neoliberal woke Democrats. I'd call myself a libertarian socialist - libertarian on social issues, Marxist on economics. Marx did, few people realize, admire the early capitalism of Adam Smith and John Stewart Mill. Today's monopoly capitalism and finance capitalism are, however, as far as I am concerned evil. They lead to massive wealth inequalities. One tenth of one percent of the top one tenth of one percent totally own our government. Today's perverted capitalism is a new form of feudalism. Billionaires are the new landlords. Everyone else gets dog meat.
I think the next step is realizing that we don't really have capitalism: We're either more like "kinder, gentler" fascism or crony-capitalism.
When we have a private banking cartel controlling the price of money, and total regulatory capture protecting the "too big to fail" oligarchy, we definitely don't have free markets.
An all-powerful government is picking winners and losers, and we peasants ("dog meat" works) are generally the losers.
Where I lose socialists is how the thought that having an even smaller group of people at the top with even more power fixes this. Or, how they can look back at the stream of failures throughout history and always say "this time, it'll be different."
Power always corrupts, so the only answer to me is getting rid of the power.
Marx realized you had to have capitalism to make the technological progress that socialism can't have, then you burn it all down and live in a socialist paradise. I wonder how he'd enjoy being a peasant in Cuba these days?
I think what you're saying is highly likely. Have you seen the coverage of George Webb (on substack and YT). he breaks down the likely assassination team setup in excruciating details. Like you said, it's a double whammy - get rid of an influential person and throw a nuke into the online food fight. Also they work so there is in-built plausible deniability for the people actually running it, and the media gets to analyse the patsy, distracting from the advance team and the people who actually organised it
0-9/12/25: My estimate is that this gets even more, as in really, interesting on or about February 20, 2026 (uncoincidentally, the Charlie Kirk affair has its roots in an event that occurred in 1993. The continuity impresses). At any rate, when do we fire back? In case you're also noticed, America's Second Civil War has already begun, and may well have started the second that the Wuhan-generated virus hit the American shores in late 2019. One hopes that Kirk's assassin, like John Wilkes Booth, has broken his leg in his plunge from a roof in his so-far successful attempt to escape.
With respect, I think you mean when do we all have Charlie's courage to engage civilly with those who loathe us most?
In the battle of facts and ideas we win - and by taking the correct defensive measures - in Charlie's case, post-Butler, a simple drone overhead at an outdoor event would have allowed his security to get him off the X.
And when they need to shoot you to prevent you from winning hearts and minds with open public discourse, it's because you're winning the debate handily. So everyone should be inspired to more public honest speech, never staying silent in fear of being shamed, and taking over the discourse even more.
Who knew they had this elaborate apparatus of control? With legacy media and the US Government joining in to muzzle Americans?
No wonder gender critical feminists could gain no reach and influence no one as transexuals took over every aspect of female public life.
This is insanity. Apparently at the behest of these woefully unpersuasive fools we may never leave the high school lunch table and graduate to the public square.
This gives the eve-of-election “dirty tricks” term a whole new meaning. It’s extraordinary how subversive and under-handed this scheme was. It deserves far more attention. Shameful. Thank you MT for investigative digging when no major media would do their job.
I don’t accept this is a “left” problem. It’s a power problem. Right, left: whoever has the ring wants to use it to “do good.” Otherwise, I agree. Starts with canceling, then lawfare, then death.
Mao was repeating basic political science. We almost all struggle to keep it from getting that basic, but in the end...
Shooting someone like Kirk is rank political stupidity; now he's a martyr. But when things get hot enough, SOMEONE will be that stupid. At the same time, it's the right, meaning Trump (you're stuck with him now, and Reckless is his middle name), calling out the military. Things are definitely deteriorating.
Agree, shooter is "Stupid cubed." Psychiatrists have been saying for years that the increase in these types of murderous evil people's actions is actually due to their overweening desire to be famous or infamous.
I mean, if so many readers here cannot figure out the tactics "Yuri" is using to mind-capture you....you're going to be totally lost when it comes to figuring out the overall WOKE phenomenon.
To hell with the gaslighting corporate media & their talking heads.
To hell with the virtue signaling leftist influencers, late night talk show hosts, and politicians.
They'll all be back to calling half the country deplorables, bigots, fascists, racists & Nazi's by Sunday.
Word to the wise. Charlie Kirk was moderate. The potential for what fills the vacuum as a result of Mr. Kirks murder is a thousand times worse than the greatest fears & concerns they all had of him.
This is typically what awaits. The Tea Party was a organic development that DC, both the GOP and democrats, worked to ignore and eliminate. DC got Trump as a response. He is not polite like the newbies to politics that characterized the Tea Party.
Kirk was polite and willing to talk AND listen. He was what the left says they want. His death demonstrates that for the most part they are lying to us. Having learned that the left was disingenuous at best and is bloodthirsty at worst, the successor to Kirk will not be kind and considerate and moderate in his mannerism.
To the members of the criminal progressive left, and the criminal billionaires who funded Kirk's assassination, you have sowed the seeds of your destructor. It will be exceedingly unpleasant. I will do my best to remember My Lord's exhortations about behavior and love towards thy neighbor. I may need to go to confession alot.
interesting that with all the discussions this year about democrats no longer connecting with young voters, one of their surrogates took action into his own hands.
The chilling thought is that this was almost certainly a highly successful future political candidate, now that future is impossible... as an atheist, his overall take didn't resonate with me much, but I feel that it's terrible for our country to lose leaders who actually are willing to talk out issues and listen to the other side. He was an exemplar of how free speech should work and how positive public discourse can go.
HCQ is actually effective on SARS viruses—it’d been used since 2003 and hospitals had stockpiles of it. idk if any preparation is 100% but HCQ was the standard of care. The reason why ppl think it’s not useful is b/c of a 100% fraudulent/retracted “study” by a group called “Surgisphere.” Look it up.
the problem here is that media got 100% behind fraudulent messaging from our own captured agencies.
Agree! HCQ was/is very effective if used early - first 5 days or so from the onset of symptoms - and if used with azithromycin and zinc. The orchestrated campaign against it by Fauci et al was reprehensible and undoubtedly cost a huge number of lives.
interestingly, i’ve read that prescribing for simple antibiotics like azithromycin, and anti-inflammatories like prednisone dropped like a stone—as if post-acute respiratory infection had just disappeared off the face of the earth—so irrational.
it felt supremely unfair and cruel to have “front line workers” in retail and other in-person service work out there without any sort of early treatment. so i tried to spread the word as best I could...and the way ppl came down on me you’d have thought i’d suggested ppl eat babies. it was coordinated and I knew most of the ppl piling on—old Bernie tribe.
later i had the gall to talk about being vx injured and was literally told that “we have to accept that some will die (from the vx).” thus, my death was a price they were willing to pay, and they felt comfortable saying that to me, personally.
I remember the mainstream media falling over themselves early in the pandemic to denounce HCQ and ivermectin, despite their known effectiveness against viruses similar to Covid. Also other things like vitamin C (high dose vit C was being used in China to treat Covid patients right from the start) and supplements like Quercetin and Vitamin D, which were also very well known in the scientific literature to be effective anti-virals. At the start of the pandemic I was working as a scientific writer for a small company and we published blogs on a range of topics relevant to natural health care. We did a series on supplements that were known to be effective against viral infections, and specifically cited studies on their use in Covid patients. But the FDA issued guidance to all doctors that nothing could be published indicating that any natural supplements or drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin were effective against Covid, otherwise they could lose their licenses. So we had to strip out all phrases mentioning Covid from our blog series and mention only "viral infections". This was pure intimidation. No wonder so little information got out to the public on things that would have helped them not to die.
Same and then they came with someone that drank something dealing with a fish tank instead of Hydroxychloroquine and said don’t take Ivermectin because you are not a horse. My teen son got the very nasty Delta variant and Ivermectin cured him in 12 frickin hours. Helped the whole family. I had to go meet an ARNP who was prescribing it for patients in parking lot. The bullshit we have been out through in the last 10 years is criminal at BEST.
The accurate criticism of ivermectin was that an anti-parasite drug is unlikely to do much against a virus except maybe by happy accident. Public health authorities instead prioritized social media clout over factual accuracy and called it "horse paste."
This is the best way to respond - by providing proof that the assassin's bullet didn't arrive in a vacuum. There were other powerful forces trying to silence him.
Let's hope future generations are interested in getting the history right.
Exactly. TDS wasn't spawned naturally. It was mass fed and promoted through manipulation and distortions. From the Orwellian word play to the rigging of algorithms, the less than critically thinking amongst us were led down the primrose path and the ending is not going to be pretty.
I may be parroting an oft-used trope, but this seems like an Operation Mockingbird objective, which is to maintain control for the pleasure of a covert elite.
"Undoubtedly, the funniest thing about the current political scene is hearing people scream about fascism descending on the US in one breath, then advocating censorship and disarmament of civilians in the next.
Do they even listen to themselves?" -- Eric Raymond, X
Untrue. Most thinking people know and understand what fascism is and what it is not. It's primary use is as a cudgel to smear and shame their opponent and is most often used incorrectly by the very people who are indeed fascists and this behavior emanates primarily on the left.
Is there a right wing element to socialism? I'm not sure I agree with that in the USA. In European politics (and elsewhere in the world) conservatism are very different from it's American counter-part. A conservative in Europe might create a coalition with a Socialist, but usually that's a match made for political expediency than for ideological alignment. At one time anarchy was thought to be right wing, but ideologies that embrace collectivism manifest mainly from the left. In the so-called post modern world anarchy is now associated with the left as violence has become the staple of left wing ideologies. Is there right wing violence? Of course, but more so in European politics then here. Violence is always attributed to the right in America, but that is more often simply blame shifting by the left.
"Right wing" only in the sense of the other side of the socialist coin, namely Marxism (the left wing). Both are collectivist and both require an authoritarian form of government -- meaning, there is only one party.
I can see where you are going with that, thanks for clarifying. Marxism-Socialism does lead to authoritarianism regardless of whether they are right or left.
"The line between fascism and Fabian socialism is very thin. Fabian socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian socialism plus the inevitable dictator."
- John T. Flynn (1949). “The Road Ahead”
There is no left or right leaning political ideology needed to create a fascist state.
The corporatists got their toehold during Reagan's 1st term when he was desperately trying to turn the economy around and finally bowed to their wishes.
Then Bush 1 took that baton and ran with it. As did Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Trump, Biden, and now Trump again.
Money talks. All the right versus left bullshit walks.
Do you really think I need to define thinking people, Larry? I think you know exactly what I am saying. I disagree there is no left-right ideology needed to create a fascist state. I like the Flynn quote.
I think corporatism pre-dated Reagan by a few decades we just didn't recognize it then. I do agree since Reagan it has pretty much become a Fait accompli.
Fascism is very narrowly defined as the conscription of private enterprise into the service of an authoritarian government, ostensibly for the purpose of national security. Doesn't have to be a totalitarian dictator. Corporatism is the organization of society & industry into corporations similar to Old World guilds.
I think you're referring to corporatocracy, where corporations have undue influence over government policy, replacing conventional democracy.
The lynchpin being corporate power is forced into the service of the state. Not the other way around. Thanks for the quote, after all, Mussolini is the author of modern fascism.
One cannot hope to decipher their incoherence by rational methods. Yes, speech is violence, violence is merely speech, 2+2=racism, slaughter conservatives (how dare you say we're inciting violence?).
Matt, I’m in awe of your dogged investigative journalism. I'm not a disciple of Charlie Kirk or anybody for that matter. The whole man-crush thing doesn't work for me but what was done to Mr. Kirk by both the legacy media and the assassin was entirely undeserved. Keep shining that light.
I can say that I have never read anything as disgraceful as the NYT obit. It can stand alone as the prime example of word manipulation and cowardice. And mental illness, IMO.
It is so common now among both print and bcast/cable news, to qualify everything, including obits, with partisan shaming. It's the very nadir of poor taste and abandonment of objective reportage
And neither one of them would say shit if their mouths were full of it, about the left.
You think in Obie's obit they'll say, "President Obama, who created the worst racial animosity in America since the end of the Civil War, bombed brown people every single day of his presidency, and still, won the Nobel Peace Prize..?
or President Joe Biden, who caused Ukraine to lose the Crimean Penninsula to Russia by denying them aid until they stopped investigating his son, was shown to be suffering from dementia from the first day of his presidency?"
I just want to point out, proudly, that we are not burning down cities but instead holding vigils in honor of Charlie and his family. We are also exposing the rot and filth coming from the left as a lot of depraved people surface to cheer a good man’s murder.
I’m hesitant to reduce a complex world into “good guys and bad guys.” Indeed, that was the simplistic worldview I rejected when I shed the progressive worldview into which I was raised and educated. But the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the reaction that followed, has brought this distinction into sharp relief.
(Sometimes I get so angry at everyone that I want them to just go ahead and kill each other, but the Utah governor was right: There's an off-ramp, and we have to take it.)
Being a boomer and having seen too many assassinations in the video age where we get to see them in slow motion with almost play by play commentary. One common theme seems to be that the assassin almost 100% of the time turns out to be a supposed insignificant person leading a troubled insignificant life. Their heinous acts give them a notoriety they perhaps sought for mentally deranged reasons.
While political rhetoric may demonize people unfairly and make them targets, every single assassin turns out to be someone with a lost life who has nothing to lose and disturbed enough to commit a desperate senseless act.
True, but many, maybe most people struggle for meaning in their lives and don't act out by killing others. They keep their nose to the grindstone and work it out over time, and their lives improve or at least stabilize in their acceptance of their circumstances.
Those who act out like this young man are lazy and narcissistic - something we have no shortage of these days. And social media, rather than uniting us, divides us as people settle into emotionally comfortable digital communities that gain notoriety by outdoing each other with their vitriol.
I understand and agree with your comments. I just wanted to point out that, among many with these commonalities, the vast majority don’t act out. So something more is at play.
Well thank god for that. Let’s somehow keep it to a small minority but that in fact is how criminality works. They are a small minority and the shooters represent a tiny minority, that’s no solace to their victims but there it is.
Bluesky tried for about 3 minutes to comment decently about Kirk after the shooting. Then quit, called him Hitler and celebrated his death. The only difference between Bluesky and X is that commentators on the latter are better armed.
Fuck every single person from the Left. I am a Cuban political refugee. My parents did not come here seeking work. We came because the Left robbed us of everything we owned. In my house, its FAFO. I am a free speech absolutist. I have zero tolerance for everything described in this article. They are the enemy within.
The left took your shit because you were greedy and corrupt. 🤣 That’s the lesson. Oppressors get oppressed eventually. We know what you’re going to do. Run away like a coward
Universities will have the pretext to disallow mobile events like Kirk's TPU kid on the campus debates. They will posit that it's just too dangerous and provocative as the death of (will they actually call it murder?) Charlie Kirk demonstrates. This will simply ossify liberals at colleges to further shut down discourse while blaming an innocent man for his own assassination.
First the left uses digital assassination. Then they use lawfare. If that all fails, they fire bullets.
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” -Mao Zedong, communist hero
Matt hits this out of the park! I especially appreciate the wealth of detail (and Matt's shout out to Bari!) Absolutely one of Matt's best! Targeted for removal in 2020 which failed! And finally permanently removed in 4K live by an indoctrinated tool before the world.
ditto-I feel like I am literally hearing it from the source.
This insane behavior was always going to culminate in one of their unhinged adherents firing bullets.
Who knew they had such an elaborate apparatus for silencing freeborn American citizens?
An ordinary person cannot even get a reason for a suspension or banning and yet they write these crazy gossipy mean girl notes back and forth with legacy press about real leaders, like Charlie?
No wonder gender critical feminists could never get any reach.
It seems we may never be allowed to graduate from the high school lunchroom to the public square, whilst these maniacs wield any power at all.
Blaming this on the left is exactly what the Zionists want. And it worked for about a day. The American left is not into assassinations by professional hit men. They don't like guns and don't know how to use them. Mossad, on the other hand, is very much into political assassinations. This smells like a false flag operation that killed two birds with one stone: Knock out an influential right-wing pundit who is starting to question Israel and blame it on the crazy libs.
Are you in therapy?
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti.
He also said, you are the world and the world is you <3
too true
I love Krishnamurti.
Why does any comment that is less-than approving, of Zionists always result in an ad hominem attack, no matter what blog? So weird that such a mechanism is like, across the webs. Almost as if a PR firm was managing Israel's media. Oh wait...
Because the attack of "what Zionists want" is ad hominem. You morons never cease to amaze.
Larry's statement was not an ad hominem. He was not countering an argument by disparaging its maker--Zionist or otherwise.
Rather, he was making a claim about Zionists: That they want the Kirk assassination to be blamed on the left.
Fuck off asshole
Proof, please.
To address a sociological group in some way is not an "ad hominem" attack. If i say "Jewish people in Australia are overrepresented in the fields of dentistry, banking and entertainment" this is not "ad hominem"
Claiming Zionists control US policy is not claiming a statistical truth. And what the fuck is “over” representation anyway? Since when do career path distributions track with demographic information? Women are “overrepresented” in nursing. Christians are “overrepresented” in the Catholic clergy. Muslims are overrepresented in…
It's known has hasbara, and there is a virtual army of people watching online forums to shoot down instantly any unfavorable comments about Israel and its genocidal campaign. BTW, hasbara is the hebrew equivalent of propaganda, and the Israelis have honed it like the sharpest knives.
Yes, every time I criticize the genocide being carried out by the Zionist entity, within minutes someone has been assigned to refute everything. It’s like clockwork. Some poster I’ve never heard from before suddenly has a long and insulting diatribe about how it’s all the fault of those kids who keep stepping in front of bullets.
I noticed this too. Someone always quickly reaches out to explain that I am anti Semitic for daring to ask such questions, and to wave the bloody shirt of 10/7.
right? look at the total mess on this page.
It's sad yeah. I try to come from the place that most "zionists" or any other deeply psyoped group (which is us all) don't realise how much their elite has lied to them and manipulated them.
Finally you nailed it -- after reading the usual back n forth it is surprising people don't see your truth - how many Jews are just like me an American who only since 2019-2020 is seeing the world and my own country through new eyes, thanks to Trump Benz Taibbi others, and now Kirk. Need me a shirt Call me Charlie
Why is you no verifiable proof is never offered for your claims?
Because they are always on the lookout for "antisemitism."
Nancy, thank you too.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/wife-beating.aspx
I am a criminal defense attorney in major crimes. Plenty of people of all religions beat the f out of their wives.
Oh Larry... you're so unhinged.
I realize that like many w/ mental illness (yours is acute delusion) you fail to see it. I hope you have friends who are honest w/ you that aren't as anti-semitic as you that you can share you post and my comment w/ and ask for their honest opinion.
I am not antisemitic. I love and respect Judaism. My anger and disdain is towards Zioinsm, which is a perversion of an otherwise beautiful religion. Many Jews and Jewish organizations openly opposed the ongoing genocide in Gaza:
Medea Benjamin, Max Blumethal, Aaron Maté, Norman Finkelstein, Glenn Greenwald, Ilan Pappé, Katie Harper, Jill Stein, Naomi Wolf, Noam Chomsky, for example. Also, Jewish Voice for Peace, the Jewish Bloc, The International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, Jews for Justice for Palestinians, Jews Against the War on Gaza. Many Orthodox Jewish rabbis condemn the bad treatment of Palestinians.
Yes, spreading unfounded, deranged and delusional anti-Semitic conspiracy theories proves your love for the Jews. As does your list of the Hall of Fame of the world's most anti-Jewish Jews (many of whom, such as Norm Finkelstein, are obviously mentally ill).
Jew hatred really attracts the lowest losers.
Zionists are Jewish heretics. Most don't even believe in God. Zionists by their blatant racism and ethnic cleansing have precipitated worldwide disdain for Jews. Because of Zionist atrocities, Israel is the most hated nation in the world. Because of Zionist atrocities, the Israeli economy is falling apart. Recently, in a matter of 3 days Netanyahu attackes SIX neighboring countries. Netanyahu, to save his own skin, is bringing about the end of Israel. The world rejects genocide. The world rejects Zionist racism. The world rejects apartheid governments. Your support of Zionism will destroy Israel. Israel's worst enemy is you, not me.
Yes, up is down, your hatred is really love, "Next Year in Jerusalem" was just a joke, a defensive war is ethnic cleansing, attacking countries that keep launching missiles at you is an atrocity, Hamas and Hezbollah are gentle religious scholars, people hate Jews because of Israel (not because they hated them centuries before Israel even existed), and having compassion for the world's most hated minority and wanting them to live peacefully in their own country makes me their worst enemy. (And "Most don't even believe in God" !! lol)
You hit all the main points of the prototypical 21st-century Jew hater. Congrats!
Shalom
As a Christian I reject the many horrors done in the name of Christianity - burning witches, heresy trials, the Crusades, colonialism, etc. You to be credible should categorically reject atrocities done in the name of Judaism.
Equating self-hatred to being against the killing of others for wont of a piece of property is the epitome of irrationalism. Makes no logical sense.
not very clever
Israel owns the US and Charlie was beginning to realize that and push back. His death was a huge victory for Netanyahu
I've been wondering lately why so many Jew haters are also prone to falling for the most deranged and moronic conspiracy theories and then it hit me: Both groups consist of the world's biggest losers who need to blame others for the fact that they smell bad and that they and their spouses are fat, failed and hideously ugly (if they have a spouse that's not a blow-up doll).
The Mossad is under your bed! Prove me wrong!
Hasbara really attracts the lowest whores, such as “Clever”, who is earning his pieces of silver today.
I agree with Larry, and I don't hate Jews, or anybody else, for that matter.
Yes, I'm aware of most of the people on your list. In fact, I had been a paid subscriber to several of their substacks.
I no longer am. Glenn was a long holdout, I only cancelled him this summer.
I suggest you watch Triggernometry's interview w/ Professor Finkelstein. It's a good litmus test of one's ability (yours) to think critically. And then watch a bit more of Konstantin Kisen when he describes his path to supporting Israel.
Furthermore, please note, that these people you support use 'Zionist' as code for anti-semitism. The most superficial study of the Holocaust will easily lead you to see descriptions of the particular dynamic of 'self-hating Jew' aberration.
I, for one make no distinction b/t a Zionist and a Jew. And Zionist is a big enough tent for me, a non Jew to also be a member of.
What astonishes me is your demonstrated ignorance of Middle East history while yet appearing to be reasonable.
Just stop. You obviously do not want to hear it. You do understand that Semites are anyone who speaks a Semitic language, right? Like Arabic?
All people are welcome in the Zionist tent.
Yeah, but an awful lot of people are scrambling to get out of the tent. Good on them for finally awakening to the fact of Israel's extreme cruelty and brutality.
Fuck off you Jew hating piece of shit.
It’s not the joos. It’s the genocide we draw a line for. Can you understand the difference?
Larry-you are trying to have a debate with people incapable of that activity when Israel is the topic.
Frau Braun, Thanks for providing the opportunity.
This is what Israel has to deal with.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/in-the-name-of-allah.aspx
How is anything that "Israel has to deal with" any of our business?
Let the Israelis finance their own slaughters.
None of this benefits Americans -- other than those employed by the arms industry, or holding stock in those companies.
personal attacks again? Y'all need to up your debate skills if the best you can do is call an old Texan granny foul names. .
How is anything that "Israel has to deal with" any of our business?
Let the Israelis finance their own slaughters.
None of this benefits Americans -- other than those employed by the arms industry, or holding stock in those industries.
How is anything that "Israel has to deal with" any of our business?
Let the Israelis finance their own slaughters.
None of this benefits Americans -- other than those employed by the arms industry, or holding stock in those industries.
How is anything that "Israel has to deal with" any of our business?
Let the Israelis finance their own slaughters.
None of this benefits Americans -- other than those employed by the arms industry, or holding stock in those industries.
Larry, this one is not for you. It is for people capable of learning something new.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/games/terrorists-kill-muslims.aspx
I Samuel 15:3. "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”
From the New Testament read the Book of Revelation. It is more bloodthirsty than anything in all Islamic sacred texts. There is zero mention of love or compassion in Revelation, just throwing enemies into a lake of fire
As a Christian I love and respect followers of Islam. I have read the Quran. It honors and celebrates both Jews and Christians. It says Jews and Christians will be welcomed in Paradise. A whole chapter is dedicated to honoring the Virgin Mary. The Quran forbids the killing of innocent civilians. It says war is justified only in self defense. The most frequently used word in the Quran is peace.
You really are an idiot.
Islam preaches eternal jihad until the caliphate is complete.
I Samuel 15:3 is a specific instance and it is very rare to find other examples like it in the Torah.
In contrast the Qur'an preaches violence, jihad, hatred for all infidels.
Proof in the pudding?
Judaism has existed for approximately 2,000 years longer than Islam. As of today there are fewer than 16 million Jews while there are close to two billion Muslims. Israel controls Israel and that's it. Islam spans the globe controlling upwards of 55 countries.
So, Larry, fuck off you Nazi loving assh*le.
word salad.
at least it's healthy :).
Who wants word cheetos?
Too much yellow no. 5 for my taste, but I bet larry puts that on his q-tips before cleaning his ears.
see above comment. Don't any of you have a low gear, or is it always the case wherein ANY comment not wholeheartedly endorsing Zionism is met with distain and insult?
I don't think I was being disdainful in my criticism. I genuinely believe that Larry is delusional and I explained how I see the situation.
Furthermore, Larry didn't rebut the quote by Finkelstien.
I appreciate our exchange. I am just a Granny who wants my beloved grandbabies to have a decent world-like we had for most of my 70 years. Have a great weekend, Jim.
Zionism has been around for more than your 70 years. If it was a decent world for you, what fucking changed, grandma?
Then move your family to an Islamic country so they can enjoy this!
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/slavery.aspx
HUH...don't play the "I'm as grown up as your wife, pal" card with me! LOL
Be well, Nancy.
It’s hasbara. Every time a post critical of Israel comes up, within minutes someone is on the job rebutting it. And it’s always some stranger who you’ve never seen posting before. The MO is obvious.
Low gear? Like these people?
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2025
Larry has friends. They are waiting for him to join tea time. They're all at the American Girl Doll store. He's waiting for the van to pick him up.
“I’m against Israel murdering babies”
“ANTISEMITE!!!!!”
If murdering babies is what you do, get used to being called out for it. Maybe write an extra big check to Congress next time?
You realise it's meaningless now to say this. The race thing has been weaponised to such a degree, it's basically impossible to have any kind of dialogue about it.
You are too fucked up for help. Crawl away into the nearest culvert.
Perhaps you should dive head first into a running wood chipper, the world would be a better place
Ah yes, you are the kind of knuckle-dragging Neanderthal that the once-great Matt Taibbi, has now drawn into his fold. You want for me what the Zionists and Netanyahu want for the Palestinians - a painful and violent death Go to hell.
Hi Larry.
Not that you need help, but there is this:
B'tselem and a Physician's group in Israel have called it Gen**ide. (all antisemites?).
Then a favorite is this hella complicated chart in Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humanitarian_groups_accusing_Isr**l_of_genocide_in_Gaza. You have Tucker and Candace and others on the right taking a stand too and more coming around out of Christian principles. All antisemites? No, and like MTG also pushing hard at "america first".
Bibi himself went to the UN and promoted "Greater Israel"... now, that's part of Egypt and Iraq, all of Jordan, all of Palestine, part of Lebanon and Syria. The goal then is a large zionist state of about 7 million first class citizans and client states of second class citizens, I dunno 20 million or so? The crac those folks with Bibi are smoking is sublime.
Matt's comments have been so taken over by Hasbara $s (note that if they can't convert you they will bludgeon you to bits with ridicules rhetoric so you don't come back)-- it is a distinct pattern.
Thanks for holding your ground and saying what most are thinking. Because saying them aloud is just about pointless anymore. I miss the emo hurt libs that used to hang out here.
Ah yes, B'tselem, those sickos, those self-hating Jews, those certifiably mentally ill morons. Ha! Thank for your comments and best wishes.
From Friday's The Guardian: ‘We took the gloves off’: ex-IDF chief confirms Gaza casualties over 200,000.
Retired general Herzi Halevi says ‘not once’ had legal advice constrained Israel’s military decisions in the strip
[For the math inhibited that's 100,000 children.]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-commander-confirms-palestinian-casualties-are-more-than-200000?utm_term=68c55cc377df388fb2d45e0c8d6d616e&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUS&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUS_email
We should probably just reply with "your hasbara $s at work".
breathe, larr.
Larry -- it's not that complicated. All Hamas needs to do to end the suffering of the people living in Gaza is release the hostages and go into exile. Don't let Zionism blind you to the unnecessary suffering of human hostages, both those taken on October 7 and those who live in Gaza and are getting bombed everyday because Hamas won't surrender.
Israel doesn’t give a shit about the hostages. Israeli soldiers shot and killed three escaped hostages that were waving a white flag and shouting out in Hebrew. On 10/7 IDF pilots in American provided helicopters shot and killed over a hundred Israeli citizens to prevent them from becoming hostages. Read about the Hannibal Directive.
At least a hundred thousand Palestinian children are no longer breathing because of your obscene geopoitical views. And you don't seem to give a shit.
And every single one was a child studying physics while working on their medical degrees. Larr believes it all.
That's a number that comes from a source w/o credibility.
Larry, you are in Hell. Hell of your own making, and when you die; eternal Hell.
Go fuck yourself, Bob. You are the one advocating the slaughter of innocent children, not me. You are the one advocating genocide, apartheid, forced starvation, prison camps, torturing and raping prisoners, murdering journalists and UN aid worker, bombing hospitals, using food as bait to draw children out so they can be shot in the head, poisoning drinking water, the utter destruction of the homes of 2 million people. If anyone belongs in the bottom pit of hell it is you.
Ohhh...Larry is getting angry. So. Much. Fun!
Breath like a Buddha. Larry. Calm yourself.
I know it's hard for you to lose. As a delusional dick (that's you) it's hard to admit you are, well, a delusional dick. This is obvious (and fun to watch happen!).
So calm down, little boy, because I have some more reading for you.
Enjoy!!!
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/games/other-religions-kill-too.aspx
Of course behind every evil deed lies the nefarious hand of the Jew. Jews are omniscient and omnipotent, always there even when invisible, always guilty even when they seem most innocent. If only there were some final solution to them...
These are your words, not mine. I never said anything like this. I greatly admire the Hebrew prophets who rejected everything Zionism stands for. I read and respect many Jewish authors. I voted for Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein, who are both Jewish. I am a disciple of Jesus, who was a Jewish rabbi and as distant from Zionism as anyone could imagine.
poor larry. a jew declined his advances and it's haunted him since. No means no, larry.
Larry,
"Woe to those who put good for evil and evil for good. WHo put darkness for light and light for darkness. Who put bitter for sweet and seet for bitter."
You will spend eternity in Hell.
Larry never said anything even remotely similar to that.
I Always Knew it was Da Juices!
take your ritalin, larry.
I think you forgot to take your Haldol this morning. It's an excellent antipsychotic.
lol, larry, you're such a card!
" It's an excellent antipsychotic."
Little wonder you would know.
From what I've read and lived to see, this seems a quite plausible explanation of a partially known reality.
We shall see. . .
There is quite a bit of evidence, a laid out by Max Blumenthal recently, that Charlie's views on Israel were evolving to a degree that alarmed the Israelis.
I think you’re in the wrong place. QAnon is that way👉
Having nothing to do with your obvious bias. Just explain to me how the Mossad recruited Mr Robinson and his grandfather’s rifle. I assume they must have planted the text messages to his roommate also or maybe he was an agent also. They must’ve had his entire family on the payroll too.
The Mossad have really stepped up their game
Easy shot!
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
Subsequent information confirms your assessment; this was not a professional hit but rather a left-wing radicalized young man with a scope on a bolt-action rifle. More information is being revealed, but your assessment that the left does not engage in violence with a gun is not valid.
"American left is not into assassinations by professional hit men"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Oh, wait, you're serious?
Please provide verifiable proof of your assertion.
You could be right. It could be a distraction from Epstein and the Mossad link.
It could be deep state actors. Nothing would surprise me.
However, neither excludes the woke left from responsibility. There are lots of woke leftist antifa/transtifa types who are now in paramilitary groups. Look up the John Brown Gun Club or the Socialist Rifle Association.
I have to suspect you're on the left, and trying to avoid a very necessary introspection of your associations and beliefs. Hope you get past that.
I am on the left, but not a woke identity-politics Democrat. I also reject Antifa. I am pro-working class and antiwar. I, like most people on what I call the real left, reject violence, especially gun violence to achieve leftist goals. Yes, there are radical leftists who are interested in violent revolution, but they are fringe groups, not the norm - not even close. I am willing and eager to team up with conservatives on common causes - free speech, resisting foreign wars, rejecting vaccine mandates, debunking Russiagate, even the importance of famiy. I will never agree with them on economics. Actually, the Democrats agree with Republicans on economics more than I do (favoring corporate interests, tax breaks for the rich, too-big-to-fail bailouts, keeping salaries as low as possibe, outsourcing jobs etc).
Glad to hear it, Larry. Sounds like we'd have some good chats.
I hope you are actively speaking out against the woke left at every opportunity. The Democratic party is beyond lost.
I'm a libertarian - I used to have a lot in common with the left, but the left has gone full authoritarian and the right has adopted a lot of libertarian positions, making for strange times for me.
Strange times indeed! When I, a socialist find myself agreeing with with conservatives at least as much as I do with the new breed of neoliberal woke Democrats. I'd call myself a libertarian socialist - libertarian on social issues, Marxist on economics. Marx did, few people realize, admire the early capitalism of Adam Smith and John Stewart Mill. Today's monopoly capitalism and finance capitalism are, however, as far as I am concerned evil. They lead to massive wealth inequalities. One tenth of one percent of the top one tenth of one percent totally own our government. Today's perverted capitalism is a new form of feudalism. Billionaires are the new landlords. Everyone else gets dog meat.
I think the next step is realizing that we don't really have capitalism: We're either more like "kinder, gentler" fascism or crony-capitalism.
When we have a private banking cartel controlling the price of money, and total regulatory capture protecting the "too big to fail" oligarchy, we definitely don't have free markets.
An all-powerful government is picking winners and losers, and we peasants ("dog meat" works) are generally the losers.
Where I lose socialists is how the thought that having an even smaller group of people at the top with even more power fixes this. Or, how they can look back at the stream of failures throughout history and always say "this time, it'll be different."
Power always corrupts, so the only answer to me is getting rid of the power.
Marx realized you had to have capitalism to make the technological progress that socialism can't have, then you burn it all down and live in a socialist paradise. I wonder how he'd enjoy being a peasant in Cuba these days?
Or the Zizian crew.
I think what you're saying is highly likely. Have you seen the coverage of George Webb (on substack and YT). he breaks down the likely assassination team setup in excruciating details. Like you said, it's a double whammy - get rid of an influential person and throw a nuke into the online food fight. Also they work so there is in-built plausible deniability for the people actually running it, and the media gets to analyse the patsy, distracting from the advance team and the people who actually organised it
This is Machiavelli meets highschool mean girls combined with the power of legacy press and the US Government .
Still weeping for Charlie and now it seems they were going to silence him by hook or by crook- who taught these fools to unlearn Persuasion?
This is America and we may say whatever we like and listen to whomever we choose.
How dare they, really?
The Russian Yuri warned us of the slow but very effective process perpetrated on us by the communist regime.
0-9/12/25: My estimate is that this gets even more, as in really, interesting on or about February 20, 2026 (uncoincidentally, the Charlie Kirk affair has its roots in an event that occurred in 1993. The continuity impresses). At any rate, when do we fire back? In case you're also noticed, America's Second Civil War has already begun, and may well have started the second that the Wuhan-generated virus hit the American shores in late 2019. One hopes that Kirk's assassin, like John Wilkes Booth, has broken his leg in his plunge from a roof in his so-far successful attempt to escape.
With respect, I think you mean when do we all have Charlie's courage to engage civilly with those who loathe us most?
In the battle of facts and ideas we win - and by taking the correct defensive measures - in Charlie's case, post-Butler, a simple drone overhead at an outdoor event would have allowed his security to get him off the X.
And when they need to shoot you to prevent you from winning hearts and minds with open public discourse, it's because you're winning the debate handily. So everyone should be inspired to more public honest speech, never staying silent in fear of being shamed, and taking over the discourse even more.
He is now supposedly in custody.
Who knew they had this elaborate apparatus of control? With legacy media and the US Government joining in to muzzle Americans?
No wonder gender critical feminists could gain no reach and influence no one as transexuals took over every aspect of female public life.
This is insanity. Apparently at the behest of these woefully unpersuasive fools we may never leave the high school lunch table and graduate to the public square.
This gives the eve-of-election “dirty tricks” term a whole new meaning. It’s extraordinary how subversive and under-handed this scheme was. It deserves far more attention. Shameful. Thank you MT for investigative digging when no major media would do their job.
I don’t accept this is a “left” problem. It’s a power problem. Right, left: whoever has the ring wants to use it to “do good.” Otherwise, I agree. Starts with canceling, then lawfare, then death.
What a deep dive. As you guys say: “You don’t hate the media enough you think you do but you don’t. “
Mao was repeating basic political science. We almost all struggle to keep it from getting that basic, but in the end...
Shooting someone like Kirk is rank political stupidity; now he's a martyr. But when things get hot enough, SOMEONE will be that stupid. At the same time, it's the right, meaning Trump (you're stuck with him now, and Reckless is his middle name), calling out the military. Things are definitely deteriorating.
Agree, shooter is "Stupid cubed." Psychiatrists have been saying for years that the increase in these types of murderous evil people's actions is actually due to their overweening desire to be famous or infamous.
This describes Mossad and the Zionists.
Here we go again. The "Yuri" sales strategy.
I mean, if so many readers here cannot figure out the tactics "Yuri" is using to mind-capture you....you're going to be totally lost when it comes to figuring out the overall WOKE phenomenon.
To hell with the gaslighting corporate media & their talking heads.
To hell with the virtue signaling leftist influencers, late night talk show hosts, and politicians.
They'll all be back to calling half the country deplorables, bigots, fascists, racists & Nazi's by Sunday.
Word to the wise. Charlie Kirk was moderate. The potential for what fills the vacuum as a result of Mr. Kirks murder is a thousand times worse than the greatest fears & concerns they all had of him.
You don't hate the media enough - you think you do, but you don't. https://x.com/Evans_Wroten
This is typically what awaits. The Tea Party was a organic development that DC, both the GOP and democrats, worked to ignore and eliminate. DC got Trump as a response. He is not polite like the newbies to politics that characterized the Tea Party.
Kirk was polite and willing to talk AND listen. He was what the left says they want. His death demonstrates that for the most part they are lying to us. Having learned that the left was disingenuous at best and is bloodthirsty at worst, the successor to Kirk will not be kind and considerate and moderate in his mannerism.
To the members of the criminal progressive left, and the criminal billionaires who funded Kirk's assassination, you have sowed the seeds of your destructor. It will be exceedingly unpleasant. I will do my best to remember My Lord's exhortations about behavior and love towards thy neighbor. I may need to go to confession alot.
Kirk was assassinated not as much because he spoke truth to power, rather because a new generation of children listened to him.
That's the true power of censorship. And, when censorship doesn't work the Left has always resorted to violence.
We must never forget 1A is even more important for the listener. For every voice they silence a thousand can not hear.
Somebody make a meme of that, and it'll be worth a thousand words. That's what they're after.
interesting that with all the discussions this year about democrats no longer connecting with young voters, one of their surrogates took action into his own hands.
The chilling thought is that this was almost certainly a highly successful future political candidate, now that future is impossible... as an atheist, his overall take didn't resonate with me much, but I feel that it's terrible for our country to lose leaders who actually are willing to talk out issues and listen to the other side. He was an exemplar of how free speech should work and how positive public discourse can go.
You nailed it
HCQ is actually effective on SARS viruses—it’d been used since 2003 and hospitals had stockpiles of it. idk if any preparation is 100% but HCQ was the standard of care. The reason why ppl think it’s not useful is b/c of a 100% fraudulent/retracted “study” by a group called “Surgisphere.” Look it up.
the problem here is that media got 100% behind fraudulent messaging from our own captured agencies.
Agree! HCQ was/is very effective if used early - first 5 days or so from the onset of symptoms - and if used with azithromycin and zinc. The orchestrated campaign against it by Fauci et al was reprehensible and undoubtedly cost a huge number of lives.
interestingly, i’ve read that prescribing for simple antibiotics like azithromycin, and anti-inflammatories like prednisone dropped like a stone—as if post-acute respiratory infection had just disappeared off the face of the earth—so irrational.
it felt supremely unfair and cruel to have “front line workers” in retail and other in-person service work out there without any sort of early treatment. so i tried to spread the word as best I could...and the way ppl came down on me you’d have thought i’d suggested ppl eat babies. it was coordinated and I knew most of the ppl piling on—old Bernie tribe.
later i had the gall to talk about being vx injured and was literally told that “we have to accept that some will die (from the vx).” thus, my death was a price they were willing to pay, and they felt comfortable saying that to me, personally.
Politically expedient lives matter
I remember the mainstream media falling over themselves early in the pandemic to denounce HCQ and ivermectin, despite their known effectiveness against viruses similar to Covid. Also other things like vitamin C (high dose vit C was being used in China to treat Covid patients right from the start) and supplements like Quercetin and Vitamin D, which were also very well known in the scientific literature to be effective anti-virals. At the start of the pandemic I was working as a scientific writer for a small company and we published blogs on a range of topics relevant to natural health care. We did a series on supplements that were known to be effective against viral infections, and specifically cited studies on their use in Covid patients. But the FDA issued guidance to all doctors that nothing could be published indicating that any natural supplements or drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin were effective against Covid, otherwise they could lose their licenses. So we had to strip out all phrases mentioning Covid from our blog series and mention only "viral infections". This was pure intimidation. No wonder so little information got out to the public on things that would have helped them not to die.
Same and then they came with someone that drank something dealing with a fish tank instead of Hydroxychloroquine and said don’t take Ivermectin because you are not a horse. My teen son got the very nasty Delta variant and Ivermectin cured him in 12 frickin hours. Helped the whole family. I had to go meet an ARNP who was prescribing it for patients in parking lot. The bullshit we have been out through in the last 10 years is criminal at BEST.
The accurate criticism of ivermectin was that an anti-parasite drug is unlikely to do much against a virus except maybe by happy accident. Public health authorities instead prioritized social media clout over factual accuracy and called it "horse paste."
This is the best way to respond - by providing proof that the assassin's bullet didn't arrive in a vacuum. There were other powerful forces trying to silence him.
Let's hope future generations are interested in getting the history right.
Exactly. TDS wasn't spawned naturally. It was mass fed and promoted through manipulation and distortions. From the Orwellian word play to the rigging of algorithms, the less than critically thinking amongst us were led down the primrose path and the ending is not going to be pretty.
"the less than critically thinking amongst us"
You're too kind! ;)
It's the old dog whistle tactic. Those idiots won't realize we're talking 'bout them!
I may be parroting an oft-used trope, but this seems like an Operation Mockingbird objective, which is to maintain control for the pleasure of a covert elite.
History....and civics!
"Undoubtedly, the funniest thing about the current political scene is hearing people scream about fascism descending on the US in one breath, then advocating censorship and disarmament of civilians in the next.
Do they even listen to themselves?" -- Eric Raymond, X
What's not funny is that corporatism is fascism without the Dictator, and the US and the EU have been full blown Corporatist States since the 90's.
But the vast majority of people on the left, right, and in the middle, have no idea what fascism is.
For most people fascism and "fascist" have just become a term for anyone who disagrees with them. A dog whistle.
Untrue. Most thinking people know and understand what fascism is and what it is not. It's primary use is as a cudgel to smear and shame their opponent and is most often used incorrectly by the very people who are indeed fascists and this behavior emanates primarily on the left.
Fascism is necessarily born of socialism. Fascism is a collectivist ideology that could be said to be the right-wing of the socialist spectrum.
Is there a right wing element to socialism? I'm not sure I agree with that in the USA. In European politics (and elsewhere in the world) conservatism are very different from it's American counter-part. A conservative in Europe might create a coalition with a Socialist, but usually that's a match made for political expediency than for ideological alignment. At one time anarchy was thought to be right wing, but ideologies that embrace collectivism manifest mainly from the left. In the so-called post modern world anarchy is now associated with the left as violence has become the staple of left wing ideologies. Is there right wing violence? Of course, but more so in European politics then here. Violence is always attributed to the right in America, but that is more often simply blame shifting by the left.
"Right wing" only in the sense of the other side of the socialist coin, namely Marxism (the left wing). Both are collectivist and both require an authoritarian form of government -- meaning, there is only one party.
I can see where you are going with that, thanks for clarifying. Marxism-Socialism does lead to authoritarianism regardless of whether they are right or left.
Perhaps the right wing of socialism is the addition of nationalism as in Nazi Germany. It all seems to wind up in the same disastrous place.
Fascists calling other people fascists.
Define "thinking people"?
"The line between fascism and Fabian socialism is very thin. Fabian socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian socialism plus the inevitable dictator."
- John T. Flynn (1949). “The Road Ahead”
There is no left or right leaning political ideology needed to create a fascist state.
The corporatists got their toehold during Reagan's 1st term when he was desperately trying to turn the economy around and finally bowed to their wishes.
Then Bush 1 took that baton and ran with it. As did Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Trump, Biden, and now Trump again.
Money talks. All the right versus left bullshit walks.
Do you really think I need to define thinking people, Larry? I think you know exactly what I am saying. I disagree there is no left-right ideology needed to create a fascist state. I like the Flynn quote.
I think corporatism pre-dated Reagan by a few decades we just didn't recognize it then. I do agree since Reagan it has pretty much become a Fait accompli.
Gaslighting cudgel at that.
Fascism is very narrowly defined as the conscription of private enterprise into the service of an authoritarian government, ostensibly for the purpose of national security. Doesn't have to be a totalitarian dictator. Corporatism is the organization of society & industry into corporations similar to Old World guilds.
I think you're referring to corporatocracy, where corporations have undue influence over government policy, replacing conventional democracy.
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
- Benito Mussolini
The lynchpin being corporate power is forced into the service of the state. Not the other way around. Thanks for the quote, after all, Mussolini is the author of modern fascism.
“Our democracy is at stake”
Schiff, Pelosi, et al, …. WAY too many fucking times.
Of course not, and why should they? To them, words have no meaning beyond the moment's use. They are Humpty Dumpty in the Alice books.
So why pay any attention to the meaningless things they say. They don't, only their dupes do.
Ah, but words they don't like are violence. And words they do like inspire violence. Go figure.
One cannot hope to decipher their incoherence by rational methods. Yes, speech is violence, violence is merely speech, 2+2=racism, slaughter conservatives (how dare you say we're inciting violence?).
I no longer bother to try.
Matt, I’m in awe of your dogged investigative journalism. I'm not a disciple of Charlie Kirk or anybody for that matter. The whole man-crush thing doesn't work for me but what was done to Mr. Kirk by both the legacy media and the assassin was entirely undeserved. Keep shining that light.
Agree 100%. In contrast to the msm gasbags Matt always backs his analysis with facts, frequently linked to primary sources. He is the real deal.
The NYTimes is such a piece of shit!
WaPo et.al., aren't much better, but the times still wears the smelly crown.
Prove me wrong!
I can say that I have never read anything as disgraceful as the NYT obit. It can stand alone as the prime example of word manipulation and cowardice. And mental illness, IMO.
It is so common now among both print and bcast/cable news, to qualify everything, including obits, with partisan shaming. It's the very nadir of poor taste and abandonment of objective reportage
And a foundational element in the political divide in the country, and BOTH sides own it.
I am too traumatized just now to join in with the "both sides do it" mantra. Maybe later. But I doubt it.
...I dunno, WAPO came very close to the crown with describing al-Baghdadi as an "austere religious scholar" ...
And neither one of them would say shit if their mouths were full of it, about the left.
You think in Obie's obit they'll say, "President Obama, who created the worst racial animosity in America since the end of the Civil War, bombed brown people every single day of his presidency, and still, won the Nobel Peace Prize..?
or President Joe Biden, who caused Ukraine to lose the Crimean Penninsula to Russia by denying them aid until they stopped investigating his son, was shown to be suffering from dementia from the first day of his presidency?"
I just want to point out, proudly, that we are not burning down cities but instead holding vigils in honor of Charlie and his family. We are also exposing the rot and filth coming from the left as a lot of depraved people surface to cheer a good man’s murder.
RIP Charlie Kirk.
I’m hesitant to reduce a complex world into “good guys and bad guys.” Indeed, that was the simplistic worldview I rejected when I shed the progressive worldview into which I was raised and educated. But the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the reaction that followed, has brought this distinction into sharp relief.
Easy, Dave, keep holding the line.
(Sometimes I get so angry at everyone that I want them to just go ahead and kill each other, but the Utah governor was right: There's an off-ramp, and we have to take it.)
very few "god guys" Lotsa "bad guys."
Being a boomer and having seen too many assassinations in the video age where we get to see them in slow motion with almost play by play commentary. One common theme seems to be that the assassin almost 100% of the time turns out to be a supposed insignificant person leading a troubled insignificant life. Their heinous acts give them a notoriety they perhaps sought for mentally deranged reasons.
While political rhetoric may demonize people unfairly and make them targets, every single assassin turns out to be someone with a lost life who has nothing to lose and disturbed enough to commit a desperate senseless act.
True, but many, maybe most people struggle for meaning in their lives and don't act out by killing others. They keep their nose to the grindstone and work it out over time, and their lives improve or at least stabilize in their acceptance of their circumstances.
Those who act out like this young man are lazy and narcissistic - something we have no shortage of these days. And social media, rather than uniting us, divides us as people settle into emotionally comfortable digital communities that gain notoriety by outdoing each other with their vitriol.
I am not excusing it I am pointing out commonalities.
I understand and agree with your comments. I just wanted to point out that, among many with these commonalities, the vast majority don’t act out. So something more is at play.
Well thank god for that. Let’s somehow keep it to a small minority but that in fact is how criminality works. They are a small minority and the shooters represent a tiny minority, that’s no solace to their victims but there it is.
Well...that always turns out to be the "official" description anyway.
Bluesky tried for about 3 minutes to comment decently about Kirk after the shooting. Then quit, called him Hitler and celebrated his death. The only difference between Bluesky and X is that commentators on the latter are better armed.
Who is Bluesky? What’s their @?
They go into a projection snit reminiscent of children who don't get their way.
I can't name a single large corporate media outlet that doesn't have the blood on Charlie Kirk on their greedy paws.
Fuck every single person from the Left. I am a Cuban political refugee. My parents did not come here seeking work. We came because the Left robbed us of everything we owned. In my house, its FAFO. I am a free speech absolutist. I have zero tolerance for everything described in this article. They are the enemy within.
The left took your shit because you were greedy and corrupt. 🤣 That’s the lesson. Oppressors get oppressed eventually. We know what you’re going to do. Run away like a coward
Universities will have the pretext to disallow mobile events like Kirk's TPU kid on the campus debates. They will posit that it's just too dangerous and provocative as the death of (will they actually call it murder?) Charlie Kirk demonstrates. This will simply ossify liberals at colleges to further shut down discourse while blaming an innocent man for his own assassination.
Rather, this will simply ossify progressives at colleges... Liberals debate. Progressives dictate. Liberals are rational, Progressives are emotional.
> a list of pre-Covid diseases named after the location of the first cases (Zika, West Nile Virus, Ebola, etc)
And let's not forget norovirus, from beautiful Norwalk, Ohio!