Matt hits this out of the park! I especially appreciate the wealth of detail (and Matt's shout out to Bari!) Absolutely one of Matt's best! Targeted for removal in 2020 which failed! And finally permanently removed in 4K live by an indoctrinated tool before the world.
This insane behavior was always going to culminate in one of their unhinged adherents firing bullets.
Who knew they had such an elaborate apparatus for silencing freeborn American citizens?
An ordinary person cannot even get a reason for a suspension or banning and yet they write these crazy gossipy mean girl notes back and forth with legacy press about real leaders, like Charlie?
No wonder gender critical feminists could never get any reach.
It seems we may never be allowed to graduate from the high school lunchroom to the public square, whilst these maniacs wield any power at all.
Blaming this on the left is exactly what the Zionists want. And it worked for about a day. The American left is not into assassinations by professional hit men. They don't like guns and don't know how to use them. Mossad, on the other hand, is very much into political assassinations. This smells like a false flag operation that killed two birds with one stone: Knock out an influential right-wing pundit who is starting to question Israel and blame it on the crazy libs.
Why does any comment that is less-than approving, of Zionists always result in an ad hominem attack, no matter what blog? So weird that such a mechanism is like, across the webs. Almost as if a PR firm was managing Israel's media. Oh wait...
It's known has hasbara, and there is a virtual army of people watching online forums to shoot down instantly any unfavorable comments about Israel and its genocidal campaign. BTW, hasbara is the hebrew equivalent of propaganda, and the Israelis have honed it like the sharpest knives.
I noticed this too. Someone always quickly reaches out to explain that I am anti Semitic for daring to ask such questions, and to wave the bloody shirt of 10/7.
It's sad yeah. I try to come from the place that most "zionists" or any other deeply psyoped group (which is us all) don't realise how much their elite has lied to them and manipulated them.
I realize that like many w/ mental illness (yours is acute delusion) you fail to see it. I hope you have friends who are honest w/ you that aren't as anti-semitic as you that you can share you post and my comment w/ and ask for their honest opinion.
I am not antisemitic. I love and respect Judaism. My anger and disdain is towards Zioinsm, which is a perversion of an otherwise beautiful religion. Many Jews and Jewish organizations openly opposed the ongoing genocide in Gaza:
Medea Benjamin, Max Blumethal, Aaron Maté, Norman Finkelstein, Glenn Greenwald, Ilan Pappé, Katie Harper, Jill Stein, Naomi Wolf, Noam Chomsky, for example. Also, Jewish Voice for Peace, the Jewish Bloc, The International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, Jews for Justice for Palestinians, Jews Against the War on Gaza. Many Orthodox Jewish rabbis condemn the bad treatment of Palestinians.
Yes, spreading unfounded, deranged and delusional anti-Semitic conspiracy theories proves your love for the Jews. As does your list of the Hall of Fame of the world's most anti-Jewish Jews (many of whom, such as Norm Finkelstein, are obviously mentally ill).
Yes, I'm aware of most of the people on your list. In fact, I had been a paid subscriber to several of their substacks.
I no longer am. Glenn was a long holdout, I only cancelled him this summer.
I suggest you watch Triggernometry's interview w/ Professor Finkelstein. It's a good litmus test of one's ability (yours) to think critically. And then watch a bit more of Konstantin Kisen when he describes his path to supporting Israel.
Furthermore, please note, that these people you support use 'Zionist' as code for anti-semitism. The most superficial study of the Holocaust will easily lead you to see descriptions of the particular dynamic of 'self-hating Jew' aberration.
I, for one make no distinction b/t a Zionist and a Jew. And Zionist is a big enough tent for me, a non Jew to also be a member of.
What astonishes me is your demonstrated ignorance of Middle East history while yet appearing to be reasonable.
see above comment. Don't any of you have a low gear, or is it always the case wherein ANY comment not wholeheartedly endorsing Zionism is met with distain and insult?
It’s hasbara. Every time a post critical of Israel comes up, within minutes someone is on the job rebutting it. And it’s always some stranger who you’ve never seen posting before. The MO is obvious.
You realise it's meaningless now to say this. The race thing has been weaponised to such a degree, it's basically impossible to have any kind of dialogue about it.
Ah yes, you are the kind of knuckle-dragging Neanderthal that the once-great Matt Taibbi, has now drawn into his fold. You want for me what the Zionists and Netanyahu want for the Palestinians - a painful and violent death Go to hell.
Bibi himself went to the UN and promoted "Greater Israel"... now, that's part of Egypt and Iraq, all of Jordan, all of Palestine, part of Lebanon and Syria. The goal then is a large zionist state of about 7 million first class citizans and client states of second class citizens, I dunno 20 million or so? The crac those folks with Bibi are smoking is sublime.
Matt's comments have been so taken over by Hasbara $s (note that if they can't convert you they will bludgeon you to bits with ridicules rhetoric so you don't come back)-- it is a distinct pattern.
Thanks for holding your ground and saying what most are thinking. Because saying them aloud is just about pointless anymore. I miss the emo hurt libs that used to hang out here.
Of course behind every evil deed lies the nefarious hand of the Jew. Jews are omniscient and omnipotent, always there even when invisible, always guilty even when they seem most innocent. If only there were some final solution to them...
These are your words, not mine. I never said anything like this. I greatly admire the Hebrew prophets who rejected everything Zionism stands for. I read and respect many Jewish authors. I voted for Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein, who are both Jewish. I am a disciple of Jesus, who was a Jewish rabbi and as distant from Zionism as anyone could imagine.
"Woe to those who put good for evil and evil for good. WHo put darkness for light and light for darkness. Who put bitter for sweet and seet for bitter."
There is quite a bit of evidence, a laid out by Max Blumenthal recently, that Charlie's views on Israel were evolving to a degree that alarmed the Israelis.
Having nothing to do with your obvious bias. Just explain to me how the Mossad recruited Mr Robinson and his grandfather’s rifle. I assume they must have planted the text messages to his roommate also or maybe he was an agent also. They must’ve had his entire family on the payroll too.
Subsequent information confirms your assessment; this was not a professional hit but rather a left-wing radicalized young man with a scope on a bolt-action rifle. More information is being revealed, but your assessment that the left does not engage in violence with a gun is not valid.
You could be right. It could be a distraction from Epstein and the Mossad link.
It could be deep state actors. Nothing would surprise me.
However, neither excludes the woke left from responsibility. There are lots of woke leftist antifa/transtifa types who are now in paramilitary groups. Look up the John Brown Gun Club or the Socialist Rifle Association.
I have to suspect you're on the left, and trying to avoid a very necessary introspection of your associations and beliefs. Hope you get past that.
I am on the left, but not a woke identity-politics Democrat. I also reject Antifa. I am pro-working class and antiwar. I, like most people on what I call the real left, reject violence, especially gun violence to achieve leftist goals. Yes, there are radical leftists who are interested in violent revolution, but they are fringe groups, not the norm - not even close. I am willing and eager to team up with conservatives on common causes - free speech, resisting foreign wars, rejecting vaccine mandates, debunking Russiagate, even the importance of famiy. I will never agree with them on economics. Actually, the Democrats agree with Republicans on economics more than I do (favoring corporate interests, tax breaks for the rich, too-big-to-fail bailouts, keeping salaries as low as possibe, outsourcing jobs etc).
Glad to hear it, Larry. Sounds like we'd have some good chats.
I hope you are actively speaking out against the woke left at every opportunity. The Democratic party is beyond lost.
I'm a libertarian - I used to have a lot in common with the left, but the left has gone full authoritarian and the right has adopted a lot of libertarian positions, making for strange times for me.
I think what you're saying is highly likely. Have you seen the coverage of George Webb (on substack and YT). he breaks down the likely assassination team setup in excruciating details. Like you said, it's a double whammy - get rid of an influential person and throw a nuke into the online food fight. Also they work so there is in-built plausible deniability for the people actually running it, and the media gets to analyse the patsy, distracting from the advance team and the people who actually organised it
0-9/12/25: My estimate is that this gets even more, as in really, interesting on or about February 20, 2026 (uncoincidentally, the Charlie Kirk affair has its roots in an event that occurred in 1993. The continuity impresses). At any rate, when do we fire back? In case you're also noticed, America's Second Civil War has already begun, and may well have started the second that the Wuhan-generated virus hit the American shores in late 2019. One hopes that Kirk's assassin, like John Wilkes Booth, has broken his leg in his plunge from a roof in his so-far successful attempt to escape.
With respect, I think you mean when do we all have Charlie's courage to engage civilly with those who loathe us most?
In the battle of facts and ideas we win - and by taking the correct defensive measures - in Charlie's case, post-Butler, a simple drone overhead at an outdoor event would have allowed his security to get him off the X.
And when they need to shoot you to prevent you from winning hearts and minds with open public discourse, it's because you're winning the debate handily. So everyone should be inspired to more public honest speech, never staying silent in fear of being shamed, and taking over the discourse even more.
Who knew they had this elaborate apparatus of control? With legacy media and the US Government joining in to muzzle Americans?
No wonder gender critical feminists could gain no reach and influence no one as transexuals took over every aspect of female public life.
This is insanity. Apparently at the behest of these woefully unpersuasive fools we may never leave the high school lunch table and graduate to the public square.
This gives the eve-of-election “dirty tricks” term a whole new meaning. It’s extraordinary how subversive and under-handed this scheme was. It deserves far more attention. Shameful. Thank you MT for investigative digging when no major media would do their job.
Mao was repeating basic political science. We almost all struggle to keep it from getting that basic, but in the end...
Shooting someone like Kirk is rank political stupidity; now he's a martyr. But when things get hot enough, SOMEONE will be that stupid. At the same time, it's the right, meaning Trump (you're stuck with him now, and Reckless is his middle name), calling out the military. Things are definitely deteriorating.
Agree, shooter is "Stupid cubed." Psychiatrists have been saying for years that the increase in these types of murderous evil people's actions is actually due to their overweening desire to be famous or infamous.
I mean, if so many readers here cannot figure out the tactics "Yuri" is using to mind-capture you....you're going to be totally lost when it comes to figuring out the overall WOKE phenomenon.
To hell with the gaslighting corporate media & their talking heads.
To hell with the virtue signaling leftist influencers, late night talk show hosts, and politicians.
They'll all be back to calling half the country deplorables, bigots, fascists, racists & Nazi's by Sunday.
Word to the wise. Charlie Kirk was moderate. The potential for what fills the vacuum as a result of Mr. Kirks murder is a thousand times worse than the greatest fears & concerns they all had of him.
This is typically what awaits. The Tea Party was a organic development that DC, both the GOP and democrats, worked to ignore and eliminate. DC got Trump as a response. He is not polite like the newbies to politics that characterized the Tea Party.
Kirk was polite and willing to talk AND listen. He was what the left says they want. His death demonstrates that for the most part they are lying to us. Having learned that the left was disingenuous at best and is bloodthirsty at worst, the successor to Kirk will not be kind and considerate and moderate in his mannerism.
To the members of the criminal progressive left, and the criminal billionaires who funded Kirk's assassination, you have sowed the seeds of your destructor. It will be exceedingly unpleasant. I will do my best to remember My Lord's exhortations about behavior and love towards thy neighbor. I may need to go to confession alot.
interesting that with all the discussions this year about democrats no longer connecting with young voters, one of their surrogates took action into his own hands.
The chilling thought is that this was almost certainly a highly successful future political candidate, now that future is impossible... as an atheist, his overall take didn't resonate with me much, but I feel that it's terrible for our country to lose leaders who actually are willing to talk out issues and listen to the other side. He was an exemplar of how free speech should work and how positive public discourse can go.
HCQ is actually effective on SARS viruses—it’d been used since 2003 and hospitals had stockpiles of it. idk if any preparation is 100% but HCQ was the standard of care. The reason why ppl think it’s not useful is b/c of a 100% fraudulent/retracted “study” by a group called “Surgisphere.” Look it up.
the problem here is that media got 100% behind fraudulent messaging from our own captured agencies.
Agree! HCQ was/is very effective if used early - first 5 days or so from the onset of symptoms - and if used with azithromycin and zinc. The orchestrated campaign against it by Fauci et al was reprehensible and undoubtedly cost a huge number of lives.
interestingly, i’ve read that prescribing for simple antibiotics like azithromycin, and anti-inflammatories like prednisone dropped like a stone—as if post-acute respiratory infection had just disappeared off the face of the earth—so irrational.
it felt supremely unfair and cruel to have “front line workers” in retail and other in-person service work out there without any sort of early treatment. so i tried to spread the word as best I could...and the way ppl came down on me you’d have thought i’d suggested ppl eat babies. it was coordinated and I knew most of the ppl piling on—old Bernie tribe.
later i had the gall to talk about being vx injured and was literally told that “we have to accept that some will die (from the vx).” thus, my death was a price they were willing to pay, and they felt comfortable saying that to me, personally.
I remember the mainstream media falling over themselves early in the pandemic to denounce HCQ and ivermectin, despite their known effectiveness against viruses similar to Covid. Also other things like vitamin C (high dose vit C was being used in China to treat Covid patients right from the start) and supplements like Quercetin and Vitamin D, which were also very well known in the scientific literature to be effective anti-virals. At the start of the pandemic I was working as a scientific writer for a small company and we published blogs on a range of topics relevant to natural health care. We did a series on supplements that were known to be effective against viral infections, and specifically cited studies on their use in Covid patients. But the FDA issued guidance to all doctors that nothing could be published indicating that any natural supplements or drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin were effective against Covid, otherwise they could lose their licenses. So we had to strip out all phrases mentioning Covid from our blog series and mention only "viral infections". This was pure intimidation. No wonder so little information got out to the public on things that would have helped them not to die.
Same and then they came with someone that drank something dealing with a fish tank instead of Hydroxychloroquine and said don’t take Ivermectin because you are not a horse. My teen son got the very nasty Delta variant and Ivermectin cured him in 12 frickin hours. Helped the whole family. I had to go meet an ARNP who was prescribing it for patients in parking lot. The bullshit we have been out through in the last 10 years is criminal at BEST.
The accurate criticism of ivermectin was that an anti-parasite drug is unlikely to do much against a virus except maybe by happy accident. Public health authorities instead prioritized social media clout over factual accuracy and called it "horse paste."
This is the best way to respond - by providing proof that the assassin's bullet didn't arrive in a vacuum. There were other powerful forces trying to silence him.
Let's hope future generations are interested in getting the history right.
Exactly. TDS wasn't spawned naturally. It was mass fed and promoted through manipulation and distortions. From the Orwellian word play to the rigging of algorithms, the less than critically thinking amongst us were led down the primrose path and the ending is not going to be pretty.
I may be parroting an oft-used trope, but this seems like an Operation Mockingbird objective, which is to maintain control for the pleasure of a covert elite.
"Undoubtedly, the funniest thing about the current political scene is hearing people scream about fascism descending on the US in one breath, then advocating censorship and disarmament of civilians in the next.
Do they even listen to themselves?" -- Eric Raymond, X
Untrue. Most thinking people know and understand what fascism is and what it is not. It's primary use is as a cudgel to smear and shame their opponent and is most often used incorrectly by the very people who are indeed fascists and this behavior emanates primarily on the left.
Is there a right wing element to socialism? I'm not sure I agree with that in the USA. In European politics (and elsewhere in the world) conservatism are very different from it's American counter-part. A conservative in Europe might create a coalition with a Socialist, but usually that's a match made for political expediency than for ideological alignment. At one time anarchy was thought to be right wing, but ideologies that embrace collectivism manifest mainly from the left. In the so-called post modern world anarchy is now associated with the left as violence has become the staple of left wing ideologies. Is there right wing violence? Of course, but more so in European politics then here. Violence is always attributed to the right in America, but that is more often simply blame shifting by the left.
"The line between fascism and Fabian socialism is very thin. Fabian socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian socialism plus the inevitable dictator."
- John T. Flynn (1949). “The Road Ahead”
There is no left or right leaning political ideology needed to create a fascist state.
The corporatists got their toehold during Reagan's 1st term when he was desperately trying to turn the economy around and finally bowed to their wishes.
Then Bush 1 took that baton and ran with it. As did Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Trump, Biden, and now Trump again.
Money talks. All the right versus left bullshit walks.
Do you really think I need to define thinking people, Larry? I think you know exactly what I am saying. I disagree there is no left-right ideology needed to create a fascist state. I like the Flynn quote.
I think corporatism pre-dated Reagan by a few decades we just didn't recognize it then. I do agree since Reagan it has pretty much become a Fait accompli.
Fascism is very narrowly defined as the conscription of private enterprise into the service of an authoritarian government, ostensibly for the purpose of national security. Doesn't have to be a totalitarian dictator. Corporatism is the organization of society & industry into corporations similar to Old World guilds.
I think you're referring to corporatocracy, where corporations have undue influence over government policy, replacing conventional democracy.
The lynchpin being corporate power is forced into the service of the state. Not the other way around. Thanks for the quote, after all, Mussolini is the author of modern fascism.
One cannot hope to decipher their incoherence by rational methods. Yes, speech is violence, violence is merely speech, 2+2=racism, slaughter conservatives (how dare you say we're inciting violence?).
Matt, I’m in awe of your dogged investigative journalism. I'm not a disciple of Charlie Kirk or anybody for that matter. The whole man-crush thing doesn't work for me but what was done to Mr. Kirk by both the legacy media and the assassin was entirely undeserved. Keep shining that light.
I can say that I have never read anything as disgraceful as the NYT obit. It can stand alone as the prime example of word manipulation and cowardice. And mental illness, IMO.
It is so common now among both print and bcast/cable news, to qualify everything, including obits, with partisan shaming. It's the very nadir of poor taste and abandonment of objective reportage
And neither one of them would say shit if their mouths were full of it, about the left.
You think in Obie's obit they'll say, "President Obama, who created the worst racial animosity in America since the end of the Civil War, bombed brown people every single day of his presidency, and still, won the Nobel Peace Prize..?
or President Joe Biden, who caused Ukraine to lose the Crimean Penninsula to Russia by denying them aid until they stopped investigating his son, was shown to be suffering from dementia from the first day of his presidency?"
I’m hesitant to reduce a complex world into “good guys and bad guys.” Indeed, that was the simplistic worldview I rejected when I shed the progressive worldview into which I was raised and educated. But the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the reaction that followed, has brought this distinction into sharp relief.
(Sometimes I get so angry at everyone that I want them to just go ahead and kill each other, but the Utah governor was right: There's an off-ramp, and we have to take it.)
Being a boomer and having seen too many assassinations in the video age where we get to see them in slow motion with almost play by play commentary. One common theme seems to be that the assassin almost 100% of the time turns out to be a supposed insignificant person leading a troubled insignificant life. Their heinous acts give them a notoriety they perhaps sought for mentally deranged reasons.
While political rhetoric may demonize people unfairly and make them targets, every single assassin turns out to be someone with a lost life who has nothing to lose and disturbed enough to commit a desperate senseless act.
True, but many, maybe most people struggle for meaning in their lives and don't act out by killing others. They keep their nose to the grindstone and work it out over time, and their lives improve or at least stabilize in their acceptance of their circumstances.
Those who act out like this young man are lazy and narcissistic - something we have no shortage of these days. And social media, rather than uniting us, divides us as people settle into emotionally comfortable digital communities that gain notoriety by outdoing each other with their vitriol.
I understand and agree with your comments. I just wanted to point out that, among many with these commonalities, the vast majority don’t act out. So something more is at play.
Well thank god for that. Let’s somehow keep it to a small minority but that in fact is how criminality works. They are a small minority and the shooters represent a tiny minority, that’s no solace to their victims but there it is.
Bluesky tried for about 3 minutes to comment decently about Kirk after the shooting. Then quit, called him Hitler and celebrated his death. The only difference between Bluesky and X is that commentators on the latter are better armed.
Fuck every single person from the Left. I am a Cuban political refugee. My parents did not come here seeking work. We came because the Left robbed us of everything we owned. In my house, its FAFO. I am a free speech absolutist. I have zero tolerance for everything described in this article. They are the enemy within.
The left took your shit because you were greedy and corrupt. 🤣 That’s the lesson. Oppressors get oppressed eventually. We know what you’re going to do. Run away like a coward
Universities will have the pretext to disallow mobile events like Kirk's TPU kid on the campus debates. They will posit that it's just too dangerous and provocative as the death of (will they actually call it murder?) Charlie Kirk demonstrates. This will simply ossify liberals at colleges to further shut down discourse while blaming an innocent man for his own assassination.
I support Kirk's right to free speech. I admire Matt's work on the Twitter files. I agree that Russiagate and the standard Covid narrative were hoaxes. But Matt misses the elephant in the room: Kirk, who is extremely inflluencial with young conseratives, was backing off his support for Zionism. He was leaning towards calling Gaza a genocide. His assassination has all the marks of a professional hit job. In that there was an immediate assumption of left-wing violence, this has all the marks of a Mossad false-flag operation. Once again Taibbi is distracting us from the obvious, which he refused to acknowledge.
If they are "everywhere", then I assume you have dug "beneath the lies" to arrive at your viewpoint. It should be easy to support the assertion with legitimate, UNBIASED citations. Make your point; I'll listen with an open mind, as I don't claim any more than a superficial understanding of this issue.
I don't need to, I did not make the comment that set you off. And yes, I have, just like you have evidence supporting your contrarion view, but did not cite.
This is nonsense. A 30 .06 bolt action shotgun is not an assassin's tool. Anyone familiar with guns could spend time at the range and be able to make this shot.
First the left uses digital assassination. Then they use lawfare. If that all fails, they fire bullets.
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” -Mao Zedong, communist hero
Matt hits this out of the park! I especially appreciate the wealth of detail (and Matt's shout out to Bari!) Absolutely one of Matt's best! Targeted for removal in 2020 which failed! And finally permanently removed in 4K live by an indoctrinated tool before the world.
ditto-I feel like I am literally hearing it from the source.
This insane behavior was always going to culminate in one of their unhinged adherents firing bullets.
Who knew they had such an elaborate apparatus for silencing freeborn American citizens?
An ordinary person cannot even get a reason for a suspension or banning and yet they write these crazy gossipy mean girl notes back and forth with legacy press about real leaders, like Charlie?
No wonder gender critical feminists could never get any reach.
It seems we may never be allowed to graduate from the high school lunchroom to the public square, whilst these maniacs wield any power at all.
Blaming this on the left is exactly what the Zionists want. And it worked for about a day. The American left is not into assassinations by professional hit men. They don't like guns and don't know how to use them. Mossad, on the other hand, is very much into political assassinations. This smells like a false flag operation that killed two birds with one stone: Knock out an influential right-wing pundit who is starting to question Israel and blame it on the crazy libs.
Are you in therapy?
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti.
He also said, you are the world and the world is you <3
too true
I love Krishnamurti.
Why does any comment that is less-than approving, of Zionists always result in an ad hominem attack, no matter what blog? So weird that such a mechanism is like, across the webs. Almost as if a PR firm was managing Israel's media. Oh wait...
Because the attack of "what Zionists want" is ad hominem. You morons never cease to amaze.
It's known has hasbara, and there is a virtual army of people watching online forums to shoot down instantly any unfavorable comments about Israel and its genocidal campaign. BTW, hasbara is the hebrew equivalent of propaganda, and the Israelis have honed it like the sharpest knives.
I noticed this too. Someone always quickly reaches out to explain that I am anti Semitic for daring to ask such questions, and to wave the bloody shirt of 10/7.
It's sad yeah. I try to come from the place that most "zionists" or any other deeply psyoped group (which is us all) don't realise how much their elite has lied to them and manipulated them.
Why is you no verifiable proof is never offered for your claims?
Because they are always on the lookout for "antisemitism."
Nancy, thank you too.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/wife-beating.aspx
Oh Larry... you're so unhinged.
I realize that like many w/ mental illness (yours is acute delusion) you fail to see it. I hope you have friends who are honest w/ you that aren't as anti-semitic as you that you can share you post and my comment w/ and ask for their honest opinion.
I am not antisemitic. I love and respect Judaism. My anger and disdain is towards Zioinsm, which is a perversion of an otherwise beautiful religion. Many Jews and Jewish organizations openly opposed the ongoing genocide in Gaza:
Medea Benjamin, Max Blumethal, Aaron Maté, Norman Finkelstein, Glenn Greenwald, Ilan Pappé, Katie Harper, Jill Stein, Naomi Wolf, Noam Chomsky, for example. Also, Jewish Voice for Peace, the Jewish Bloc, The International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, Jews for Justice for Palestinians, Jews Against the War on Gaza. Many Orthodox Jewish rabbis condemn the bad treatment of Palestinians.
Yes, spreading unfounded, deranged and delusional anti-Semitic conspiracy theories proves your love for the Jews. As does your list of the Hall of Fame of the world's most anti-Jewish Jews (many of whom, such as Norm Finkelstein, are obviously mentally ill).
Jew hatred really attracts the lowest losers.
Yes, I'm aware of most of the people on your list. In fact, I had been a paid subscriber to several of their substacks.
I no longer am. Glenn was a long holdout, I only cancelled him this summer.
I suggest you watch Triggernometry's interview w/ Professor Finkelstein. It's a good litmus test of one's ability (yours) to think critically. And then watch a bit more of Konstantin Kisen when he describes his path to supporting Israel.
Furthermore, please note, that these people you support use 'Zionist' as code for anti-semitism. The most superficial study of the Holocaust will easily lead you to see descriptions of the particular dynamic of 'self-hating Jew' aberration.
I, for one make no distinction b/t a Zionist and a Jew. And Zionist is a big enough tent for me, a non Jew to also be a member of.
What astonishes me is your demonstrated ignorance of Middle East history while yet appearing to be reasonable.
Fuck off you Jew hating piece of shit.
Larry-you are trying to have a debate with people incapable of that activity when Israel is the topic.
Larry, this one is not for you. It is for people capable of learning something new.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/games/terrorists-kill-muslims.aspx
word salad.
see above comment. Don't any of you have a low gear, or is it always the case wherein ANY comment not wholeheartedly endorsing Zionism is met with distain and insult?
I don't think I was being disdainful in my criticism. I genuinely believe that Larry is delusional and I explained how I see the situation.
Furthermore, Larry didn't rebut the quote by Finkelstien.
It’s hasbara. Every time a post critical of Israel comes up, within minutes someone is on the job rebutting it. And it’s always some stranger who you’ve never seen posting before. The MO is obvious.
Low gear? Like these people?
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2025
Larry has friends. They are waiting for him to join tea time. They're all at the American Girl Doll store. He's waiting for the van to pick him up.
“I’m against Israel murdering babies”
“ANTISEMITE!!!!!”
If murdering babies is what you do, get used to being called out for it. Maybe write an extra big check to Congress next time?
You realise it's meaningless now to say this. The race thing has been weaponised to such a degree, it's basically impossible to have any kind of dialogue about it.
You are too fucked up for help. Crawl away into the nearest culvert.
Perhaps you should dive head first into a running wood chipper, the world would be a better place
Ah yes, you are the kind of knuckle-dragging Neanderthal that the once-great Matt Taibbi, has now drawn into his fold. You want for me what the Zionists and Netanyahu want for the Palestinians - a painful and violent death Go to hell.
Hi Larry.
Not that you need help, but there is this:
B'tselem and a Physician's group in Israel have called it Gen**ide. (all antisemites?).
Then a favorite is this hella complicated chart in Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humanitarian_groups_accusing_Isr**l_of_genocide_in_Gaza. You have Tucker and Candace and others on the right taking a stand too and more coming around out of Christian principles. All antisemites? No, and like MTG also pushing hard at "america first".
Bibi himself went to the UN and promoted "Greater Israel"... now, that's part of Egypt and Iraq, all of Jordan, all of Palestine, part of Lebanon and Syria. The goal then is a large zionist state of about 7 million first class citizans and client states of second class citizens, I dunno 20 million or so? The crac those folks with Bibi are smoking is sublime.
Matt's comments have been so taken over by Hasbara $s (note that if they can't convert you they will bludgeon you to bits with ridicules rhetoric so you don't come back)-- it is a distinct pattern.
Thanks for holding your ground and saying what most are thinking. Because saying them aloud is just about pointless anymore. I miss the emo hurt libs that used to hang out here.
We should probably just reply with "your hasbara $s at work".
breathe, larr.
Larry, you are in Hell. Hell of your own making, and when you die; eternal Hell.
Of course behind every evil deed lies the nefarious hand of the Jew. Jews are omniscient and omnipotent, always there even when invisible, always guilty even when they seem most innocent. If only there were some final solution to them...
These are your words, not mine. I never said anything like this. I greatly admire the Hebrew prophets who rejected everything Zionism stands for. I read and respect many Jewish authors. I voted for Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein, who are both Jewish. I am a disciple of Jesus, who was a Jewish rabbi and as distant from Zionism as anyone could imagine.
poor larry. a jew declined his advances and it's haunted him since. No means no, larry.
Larry,
"Woe to those who put good for evil and evil for good. WHo put darkness for light and light for darkness. Who put bitter for sweet and seet for bitter."
You will spend eternity in Hell.
Larry never said anything even remotely similar to that.
I Always Knew it was Da Juices!
take your ritalin, larry.
I think you forgot to take your Haldol this morning. It's an excellent antipsychotic.
lol, larry, you're such a card!
" It's an excellent antipsychotic."
Little wonder you would know.
From what I've read and lived to see, this seems a quite plausible explanation of a partially known reality.
We shall see. . .
There is quite a bit of evidence, a laid out by Max Blumenthal recently, that Charlie's views on Israel were evolving to a degree that alarmed the Israelis.
I think you’re in the wrong place. QAnon is that way👉
Having nothing to do with your obvious bias. Just explain to me how the Mossad recruited Mr Robinson and his grandfather’s rifle. I assume they must have planted the text messages to his roommate also or maybe he was an agent also. They must’ve had his entire family on the payroll too.
The Mossad have really stepped up their game
Easy shot!
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
Subsequent information confirms your assessment; this was not a professional hit but rather a left-wing radicalized young man with a scope on a bolt-action rifle. More information is being revealed, but your assessment that the left does not engage in violence with a gun is not valid.
"American left is not into assassinations by professional hit men"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Oh, wait, you're serious?
Please provide verifiable proof of your assertion.
You could be right. It could be a distraction from Epstein and the Mossad link.
It could be deep state actors. Nothing would surprise me.
However, neither excludes the woke left from responsibility. There are lots of woke leftist antifa/transtifa types who are now in paramilitary groups. Look up the John Brown Gun Club or the Socialist Rifle Association.
I have to suspect you're on the left, and trying to avoid a very necessary introspection of your associations and beliefs. Hope you get past that.
I am on the left, but not a woke identity-politics Democrat. I also reject Antifa. I am pro-working class and antiwar. I, like most people on what I call the real left, reject violence, especially gun violence to achieve leftist goals. Yes, there are radical leftists who are interested in violent revolution, but they are fringe groups, not the norm - not even close. I am willing and eager to team up with conservatives on common causes - free speech, resisting foreign wars, rejecting vaccine mandates, debunking Russiagate, even the importance of famiy. I will never agree with them on economics. Actually, the Democrats agree with Republicans on economics more than I do (favoring corporate interests, tax breaks for the rich, too-big-to-fail bailouts, keeping salaries as low as possibe, outsourcing jobs etc).
Glad to hear it, Larry. Sounds like we'd have some good chats.
I hope you are actively speaking out against the woke left at every opportunity. The Democratic party is beyond lost.
I'm a libertarian - I used to have a lot in common with the left, but the left has gone full authoritarian and the right has adopted a lot of libertarian positions, making for strange times for me.
Or the Zizian crew.
I think what you're saying is highly likely. Have you seen the coverage of George Webb (on substack and YT). he breaks down the likely assassination team setup in excruciating details. Like you said, it's a double whammy - get rid of an influential person and throw a nuke into the online food fight. Also they work so there is in-built plausible deniability for the people actually running it, and the media gets to analyse the patsy, distracting from the advance team and the people who actually organised it
This is Machiavelli meets highschool mean girls combined with the power of legacy press and the US Government .
Still weeping for Charlie and now it seems they were going to silence him by hook or by crook- who taught these fools to unlearn Persuasion?
This is America and we may say whatever we like and listen to whomever we choose.
How dare they, really?
The Russian Yuri warned us of the slow but very effective process perpetrated on us by the communist regime.
0-9/12/25: My estimate is that this gets even more, as in really, interesting on or about February 20, 2026 (uncoincidentally, the Charlie Kirk affair has its roots in an event that occurred in 1993. The continuity impresses). At any rate, when do we fire back? In case you're also noticed, America's Second Civil War has already begun, and may well have started the second that the Wuhan-generated virus hit the American shores in late 2019. One hopes that Kirk's assassin, like John Wilkes Booth, has broken his leg in his plunge from a roof in his so-far successful attempt to escape.
With respect, I think you mean when do we all have Charlie's courage to engage civilly with those who loathe us most?
In the battle of facts and ideas we win - and by taking the correct defensive measures - in Charlie's case, post-Butler, a simple drone overhead at an outdoor event would have allowed his security to get him off the X.
And when they need to shoot you to prevent you from winning hearts and minds with open public discourse, it's because you're winning the debate handily. So everyone should be inspired to more public honest speech, never staying silent in fear of being shamed, and taking over the discourse even more.
He is now supposedly in custody.
Who knew they had this elaborate apparatus of control? With legacy media and the US Government joining in to muzzle Americans?
No wonder gender critical feminists could gain no reach and influence no one as transexuals took over every aspect of female public life.
This is insanity. Apparently at the behest of these woefully unpersuasive fools we may never leave the high school lunch table and graduate to the public square.
This gives the eve-of-election “dirty tricks” term a whole new meaning. It’s extraordinary how subversive and under-handed this scheme was. It deserves far more attention. Shameful. Thank you MT for investigative digging when no major media would do their job.
What a deep dive. As you guys say: “You don’t hate the media enough you think you do but you don’t. “
Mao was repeating basic political science. We almost all struggle to keep it from getting that basic, but in the end...
Shooting someone like Kirk is rank political stupidity; now he's a martyr. But when things get hot enough, SOMEONE will be that stupid. At the same time, it's the right, meaning Trump (you're stuck with him now, and Reckless is his middle name), calling out the military. Things are definitely deteriorating.
Agree, shooter is "Stupid cubed." Psychiatrists have been saying for years that the increase in these types of murderous evil people's actions is actually due to their overweening desire to be famous or infamous.
This describes Mossad and the Zionists.
Here we go again. The "Yuri" sales strategy.
I mean, if so many readers here cannot figure out the tactics "Yuri" is using to mind-capture you....you're going to be totally lost when it comes to figuring out the overall WOKE phenomenon.
To hell with the gaslighting corporate media & their talking heads.
To hell with the virtue signaling leftist influencers, late night talk show hosts, and politicians.
They'll all be back to calling half the country deplorables, bigots, fascists, racists & Nazi's by Sunday.
Word to the wise. Charlie Kirk was moderate. The potential for what fills the vacuum as a result of Mr. Kirks murder is a thousand times worse than the greatest fears & concerns they all had of him.
You don't hate the media enough - you think you do, but you don't. https://x.com/Evans_Wroten
This is typically what awaits. The Tea Party was a organic development that DC, both the GOP and democrats, worked to ignore and eliminate. DC got Trump as a response. He is not polite like the newbies to politics that characterized the Tea Party.
Kirk was polite and willing to talk AND listen. He was what the left says they want. His death demonstrates that for the most part they are lying to us. Having learned that the left was disingenuous at best and is bloodthirsty at worst, the successor to Kirk will not be kind and considerate and moderate in his mannerism.
To the members of the criminal progressive left, and the criminal billionaires who funded Kirk's assassination, you have sowed the seeds of your destructor. It will be exceedingly unpleasant. I will do my best to remember My Lord's exhortations about behavior and love towards thy neighbor. I may need to go to confession alot.
Kirk was assassinated not as much because he spoke truth to power, rather because a new generation of children listened to him.
That's the true power of censorship. And, when censorship doesn't work the Left has always resorted to violence.
We must never forget 1A is even more important for the listener. For every voice they silence a thousand can not hear.
Somebody make a meme of that, and it'll be worth a thousand words. That's what they're after.
interesting that with all the discussions this year about democrats no longer connecting with young voters, one of their surrogates took action into his own hands.
The chilling thought is that this was almost certainly a highly successful future political candidate, now that future is impossible... as an atheist, his overall take didn't resonate with me much, but I feel that it's terrible for our country to lose leaders who actually are willing to talk out issues and listen to the other side. He was an exemplar of how free speech should work and how positive public discourse can go.
You nailed it
HCQ is actually effective on SARS viruses—it’d been used since 2003 and hospitals had stockpiles of it. idk if any preparation is 100% but HCQ was the standard of care. The reason why ppl think it’s not useful is b/c of a 100% fraudulent/retracted “study” by a group called “Surgisphere.” Look it up.
the problem here is that media got 100% behind fraudulent messaging from our own captured agencies.
Agree! HCQ was/is very effective if used early - first 5 days or so from the onset of symptoms - and if used with azithromycin and zinc. The orchestrated campaign against it by Fauci et al was reprehensible and undoubtedly cost a huge number of lives.
interestingly, i’ve read that prescribing for simple antibiotics like azithromycin, and anti-inflammatories like prednisone dropped like a stone—as if post-acute respiratory infection had just disappeared off the face of the earth—so irrational.
it felt supremely unfair and cruel to have “front line workers” in retail and other in-person service work out there without any sort of early treatment. so i tried to spread the word as best I could...and the way ppl came down on me you’d have thought i’d suggested ppl eat babies. it was coordinated and I knew most of the ppl piling on—old Bernie tribe.
later i had the gall to talk about being vx injured and was literally told that “we have to accept that some will die (from the vx).” thus, my death was a price they were willing to pay, and they felt comfortable saying that to me, personally.
Politically expedient lives matter
I remember the mainstream media falling over themselves early in the pandemic to denounce HCQ and ivermectin, despite their known effectiveness against viruses similar to Covid. Also other things like vitamin C (high dose vit C was being used in China to treat Covid patients right from the start) and supplements like Quercetin and Vitamin D, which were also very well known in the scientific literature to be effective anti-virals. At the start of the pandemic I was working as a scientific writer for a small company and we published blogs on a range of topics relevant to natural health care. We did a series on supplements that were known to be effective against viral infections, and specifically cited studies on their use in Covid patients. But the FDA issued guidance to all doctors that nothing could be published indicating that any natural supplements or drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin were effective against Covid, otherwise they could lose their licenses. So we had to strip out all phrases mentioning Covid from our blog series and mention only "viral infections". This was pure intimidation. No wonder so little information got out to the public on things that would have helped them not to die.
Same and then they came with someone that drank something dealing with a fish tank instead of Hydroxychloroquine and said don’t take Ivermectin because you are not a horse. My teen son got the very nasty Delta variant and Ivermectin cured him in 12 frickin hours. Helped the whole family. I had to go meet an ARNP who was prescribing it for patients in parking lot. The bullshit we have been out through in the last 10 years is criminal at BEST.
The accurate criticism of ivermectin was that an anti-parasite drug is unlikely to do much against a virus except maybe by happy accident. Public health authorities instead prioritized social media clout over factual accuracy and called it "horse paste."
This is the best way to respond - by providing proof that the assassin's bullet didn't arrive in a vacuum. There were other powerful forces trying to silence him.
Let's hope future generations are interested in getting the history right.
Exactly. TDS wasn't spawned naturally. It was mass fed and promoted through manipulation and distortions. From the Orwellian word play to the rigging of algorithms, the less than critically thinking amongst us were led down the primrose path and the ending is not going to be pretty.
"the less than critically thinking amongst us"
You're too kind! ;)
It's the old dog whistle tactic. Those idiots won't realize we're talking 'bout them!
I may be parroting an oft-used trope, but this seems like an Operation Mockingbird objective, which is to maintain control for the pleasure of a covert elite.
History....and civics!
"Undoubtedly, the funniest thing about the current political scene is hearing people scream about fascism descending on the US in one breath, then advocating censorship and disarmament of civilians in the next.
Do they even listen to themselves?" -- Eric Raymond, X
What's not funny is that corporatism is fascism without the Dictator, and the US and the EU have been full blown Corporatist States since the 90's.
But the vast majority of people on the left, right, and in the middle, have no idea what fascism is.
For most people fascism and "fascist" have just become a term for anyone who disagrees with them. A dog whistle.
Untrue. Most thinking people know and understand what fascism is and what it is not. It's primary use is as a cudgel to smear and shame their opponent and is most often used incorrectly by the very people who are indeed fascists and this behavior emanates primarily on the left.
Fascism is necessarily born of socialism. Fascism is a collectivist ideology that could be said to be the right-wing of the socialist spectrum.
Is there a right wing element to socialism? I'm not sure I agree with that in the USA. In European politics (and elsewhere in the world) conservatism are very different from it's American counter-part. A conservative in Europe might create a coalition with a Socialist, but usually that's a match made for political expediency than for ideological alignment. At one time anarchy was thought to be right wing, but ideologies that embrace collectivism manifest mainly from the left. In the so-called post modern world anarchy is now associated with the left as violence has become the staple of left wing ideologies. Is there right wing violence? Of course, but more so in European politics then here. Violence is always attributed to the right in America, but that is more often simply blame shifting by the left.
Fascists calling other people fascists.
Define "thinking people"?
"The line between fascism and Fabian socialism is very thin. Fabian socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian socialism plus the inevitable dictator."
- John T. Flynn (1949). “The Road Ahead”
There is no left or right leaning political ideology needed to create a fascist state.
The corporatists got their toehold during Reagan's 1st term when he was desperately trying to turn the economy around and finally bowed to their wishes.
Then Bush 1 took that baton and ran with it. As did Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Trump, Biden, and now Trump again.
Money talks. All the right versus left bullshit walks.
Do you really think I need to define thinking people, Larry? I think you know exactly what I am saying. I disagree there is no left-right ideology needed to create a fascist state. I like the Flynn quote.
I think corporatism pre-dated Reagan by a few decades we just didn't recognize it then. I do agree since Reagan it has pretty much become a Fait accompli.
Gaslighting cudgel at that.
Fascism is very narrowly defined as the conscription of private enterprise into the service of an authoritarian government, ostensibly for the purpose of national security. Doesn't have to be a totalitarian dictator. Corporatism is the organization of society & industry into corporations similar to Old World guilds.
I think you're referring to corporatocracy, where corporations have undue influence over government policy, replacing conventional democracy.
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
- Benito Mussolini
The lynchpin being corporate power is forced into the service of the state. Not the other way around. Thanks for the quote, after all, Mussolini is the author of modern fascism.
“Our democracy is at stake”
Schiff, Pelosi, et al, …. WAY too many fucking times.
Of course not, and why should they? To them, words have no meaning beyond the moment's use. They are Humpty Dumpty in the Alice books.
So why pay any attention to the meaningless things they say. They don't, only their dupes do.
Ah, but words they don't like are violence. And words they do like inspire violence. Go figure.
One cannot hope to decipher their incoherence by rational methods. Yes, speech is violence, violence is merely speech, 2+2=racism, slaughter conservatives (how dare you say we're inciting violence?).
I no longer bother to try.
Matt, I’m in awe of your dogged investigative journalism. I'm not a disciple of Charlie Kirk or anybody for that matter. The whole man-crush thing doesn't work for me but what was done to Mr. Kirk by both the legacy media and the assassin was entirely undeserved. Keep shining that light.
Agree 100%. In contrast to the msm gasbags Matt always backs his analysis with facts, frequently linked to primary sources. He is the real deal.
The NYTimes is such a piece of shit!
WaPo et.al., aren't much better, but the times still wears the smelly crown.
Prove me wrong!
I can say that I have never read anything as disgraceful as the NYT obit. It can stand alone as the prime example of word manipulation and cowardice. And mental illness, IMO.
It is so common now among both print and bcast/cable news, to qualify everything, including obits, with partisan shaming. It's the very nadir of poor taste and abandonment of objective reportage
And a foundational element in the political divide in the country, and BOTH sides own it.
I am too traumatized just now to join in with the "both sides do it" mantra. Maybe later. But I doubt it.
...I dunno, WAPO came very close to the crown with describing al-Baghdadi as an "austere religious scholar" ...
And neither one of them would say shit if their mouths were full of it, about the left.
You think in Obie's obit they'll say, "President Obama, who created the worst racial animosity in America since the end of the Civil War, bombed brown people every single day of his presidency, and still, won the Nobel Peace Prize..?
or President Joe Biden, who caused Ukraine to lose the Crimean Penninsula to Russia by denying them aid until they stopped investigating his son, was shown to be suffering from dementia from the first day of his presidency?"
I’m hesitant to reduce a complex world into “good guys and bad guys.” Indeed, that was the simplistic worldview I rejected when I shed the progressive worldview into which I was raised and educated. But the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the reaction that followed, has brought this distinction into sharp relief.
Easy, Dave, keep holding the line.
(Sometimes I get so angry at everyone that I want them to just go ahead and kill each other, but the Utah governor was right: There's an off-ramp, and we have to take it.)
very few "god guys" Lotsa "bad guys."
Being a boomer and having seen too many assassinations in the video age where we get to see them in slow motion with almost play by play commentary. One common theme seems to be that the assassin almost 100% of the time turns out to be a supposed insignificant person leading a troubled insignificant life. Their heinous acts give them a notoriety they perhaps sought for mentally deranged reasons.
While political rhetoric may demonize people unfairly and make them targets, every single assassin turns out to be someone with a lost life who has nothing to lose and disturbed enough to commit a desperate senseless act.
True, but many, maybe most people struggle for meaning in their lives and don't act out by killing others. They keep their nose to the grindstone and work it out over time, and their lives improve or at least stabilize in their acceptance of their circumstances.
Those who act out like this young man are lazy and narcissistic - something we have no shortage of these days. And social media, rather than uniting us, divides us as people settle into emotionally comfortable digital communities that gain notoriety by outdoing each other with their vitriol.
I am not excusing it I am pointing out commonalities.
I understand and agree with your comments. I just wanted to point out that, among many with these commonalities, the vast majority don’t act out. So something more is at play.
Well thank god for that. Let’s somehow keep it to a small minority but that in fact is how criminality works. They are a small minority and the shooters represent a tiny minority, that’s no solace to their victims but there it is.
Well...that always turns out to be the "official" description anyway.
Bluesky tried for about 3 minutes to comment decently about Kirk after the shooting. Then quit, called him Hitler and celebrated his death. The only difference between Bluesky and X is that commentators on the latter are better armed.
Who is Bluesky? What’s their @?
They go into a projection snit reminiscent of children who don't get their way.
I can't name a single large corporate media outlet that doesn't have the blood on Charlie Kirk on their greedy paws.
Fuck every single person from the Left. I am a Cuban political refugee. My parents did not come here seeking work. We came because the Left robbed us of everything we owned. In my house, its FAFO. I am a free speech absolutist. I have zero tolerance for everything described in this article. They are the enemy within.
The left took your shit because you were greedy and corrupt. 🤣 That’s the lesson. Oppressors get oppressed eventually. We know what you’re going to do. Run away like a coward
Universities will have the pretext to disallow mobile events like Kirk's TPU kid on the campus debates. They will posit that it's just too dangerous and provocative as the death of (will they actually call it murder?) Charlie Kirk demonstrates. This will simply ossify liberals at colleges to further shut down discourse while blaming an innocent man for his own assassination.
Rather, this will simply ossify progressives at colleges... Liberals debate. Progressives dictate. Liberals are rational, Progressives are emotional.
> a list of pre-Covid diseases named after the location of the first cases (Zika, West Nile Virus, Ebola, etc)
And let's not forget norovirus, from beautiful Norwalk, Ohio!
I support Kirk's right to free speech. I admire Matt's work on the Twitter files. I agree that Russiagate and the standard Covid narrative were hoaxes. But Matt misses the elephant in the room: Kirk, who is extremely inflluencial with young conseratives, was backing off his support for Zionism. He was leaning towards calling Gaza a genocide. His assassination has all the marks of a professional hit job. In that there was an immediate assumption of left-wing violence, this has all the marks of a Mossad false-flag operation. Once again Taibbi is distracting us from the obvious, which he refused to acknowledge.
In a world where your only tool is a hammer, everything becomes a nail. Keep swinging, brother!
😂😂😂😂 T/y for the belly laugh!
so even though he never said it, you know he was thinking it.
"He was leaning towards calling Gaza a genocide."
As demonstrated by....? Making your arguments with facts and references might enhance its credibility.
Facts are everywhere for those willing to see them or dig beneath the lies long enough to get at the truth.
If they are "everywhere", then I assume you have dug "beneath the lies" to arrive at your viewpoint. It should be easy to support the assertion with legitimate, UNBIASED citations. Make your point; I'll listen with an open mind, as I don't claim any more than a superficial understanding of this issue.
I don't need to, I did not make the comment that set you off. And yes, I have, just like you have evidence supporting your contrarion view, but did not cite.
You've gone too far down that rabbit hole.
This is nonsense. A 30 .06 bolt action shotgun is not an assassin's tool. Anyone familiar with guns could spend time at the range and be able to make this shot.
"A 30 .06 bolt action shotgun"... LOL, another "expert" has weighed in!
Thirty ought six _shotgun_ OMEGALUL that comment made my day lololol
You don't need to be an expert to know and understand what kind of gun this is.
LOL...You just keep digging that hole "shotgun expert". I'll bet you're also familiar with a 12 gauge rifle!
You’re an idiot. It’s not a shotgun, it’s a rifle. Now make a sandwich, and have your dad explain the difference.
You have remarkable powers being able to see into Charlie's heart /sarc
What the h, I had no idea you were going there. For goodness' sake, cut it out.