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Transcript, America This Week, May 26, 2022: "The Machine Starts"
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Transcript, America This Week, May 26, 2022: "The Machine Starts"

How Walter learned to stop worrying and love DIAA, the "U.S.-supported e-government" app made for Ukraine. Then, an unpleasantly seamless transition to the 1909 dystopian story, "The Machine Stops"

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Silhouettes on display, DIIA Summit, Kyiv, 2020

On the latest America This Week, Walter Kirn and I discussed the eerie parallels between a Ukrainian snitching app, and a British author’s vision of dystopia in 1909. The transcript, edited for clarity:

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