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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

There is a reason the EXPERTS are researching people like YOU and not people like me.....

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1368430221992126

"Climate change deniers, anti-vaxxers and anti-GM campaigners: groups of people characterised by sometimes vehement denial of the conclusions of scientific research. This “rejection of science” poses a problem for modern society, the spread of doubt and misinformation from these groups can have negative – and potentially tragic – consequences (Lewandowsky & Oberauer, 2016)"

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

Honestly if someone does not want to get vaccinated then that is their business.

But when they try to tell me that the "science" is the reason they are not getting vaccinated then that is where i am bothered because there is no health ministry in the world that said people should not get vaccinated. NONE

Mandates are a great discussion topic. I am open to persuasion either way. Just don't tell me some is ati vax because they magically know more about the science than the health ministries of places like the CDC or Canada or Denmark or Japan who ALL went out of their way to insure their population was vaccinated and boosted.

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Kelly Green's avatar

There is no heath ministry in the world that has even a 3 year safety profile for the brand new mRNA technology, so I think we have to respect everyone's individual decision on how much safety data they'd want to see before getting vaccinated.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Something funny about me, I have an ethical problem with sterilizing animals. I feel that a fundamental part of being alive is the ability to procreate and that to take it away simply for our greater convenience is unjustifiable.

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Michael D (Piketty)'s avatar

I don't deny that there are some cases where people should not take the Covid Vaccine and I am sure that a qualified doctor can vouch for that. However we have seen numerous examples of misinformed doctors as well...

Again, i am fine with people who have reasons, religious or medical for not taking the vaccine.

But there is a reason a place like Denmark or Japan are 80% vaccinated. And there is a reason a place like the US an UK are closer to 60% vaccinated.

And that reason pertains to large swaths of both of our populations succumbing to misinformation. The US was ranked #1 for Pandemic preparedness before Covid and we ended one of the worlds worst as measured by deaths per 1M... There is a reason for that.

One reason is poor leadership including a President who pushed misinformation to citizens

And the second is citizens who consume unusually high amounts of Mis Information. There is a very close correlation between Americans who fell for the "stop the steal lie" and who think they understand the science better than the CDC or other health ministries. And the reality is that they don't.

I had a friend who fell for all of the anti vax propaganda. He got covid. Survived and a year later, thinking he was immune, got it again and died. I had an uncle who ignored shelter in place mandates, went to his church and along with 30 others in the congregation got infected. Sadly he too died from it.

These are such avoidable deaths. And misinformation as at the root of so many unnecessary dying. That is my point.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Not just misinfo, mistrust. Baton Rouge was an unvaxxed hotspot and an overflowing hospital but that was 75% distrusting unvaxxed minorities and 25% conservatives.

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