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JAFO's avatar

Not at all. We both KNOW hospitals are paid more per Covid patient than other airborne viral conditions. So they quick-PCR test to find the tiniest measurable amount of virus in EVERYONE who walks in the door effectively padding the numbers for higher reimbursements. Nor am I saying I wouldn't do the same since it's legal to do so.

What I AM saying is Covid is not the Black Death (those same hospital statistics prove this) the media wants everyone to believe it is and it's not in everyone's best interest to be injected with drugs that haven't been through the same vetting processes that takes 10-12 years to complete for every other drug before they're ever considered EUA, IF they're ever considered at all, ESPECIALLY drugs that don't prevent the injectee from getting or spreading the infection it's meant to protect against.

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Ibbiat's avatar

Eh... do we actually know that hospitals are paid more for Covid patients? Do you have evidence of that?

Also, you don't know which western European country I was referring to. Is your idea that ALL hospitals in ALL western European countries are "paid more" per Covid patient? How do you think that even works for countries that have socialized medicine?

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JAFO's avatar

https://www.aha.org/advisory/2020-04-16-coronavirus-update-cms-releases-guidance-implementing-cares-act-provisions

Who knows what additional shenanigans are being played behind the scenes between governments and pharmaceutical companies for CoVid payment transfers elsewhere and why does that matter to anyone in the US?

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Ibbiat's avatar

It doesn't matter to anyone in the US financially, but I think maybe you've lost track of what we were talking about, i.e., vaccine efficacy.

Maybe hospitals in the US have a financial incentive to skew numbers to make it look like the vaccines are more effective than they really are. (Aside: over-counting Covid cases wouldn't accomplish that anyway, so basically everything you've been saying is completely irrelevant.)

But for countries that don't manufacture the vaccines, don't profit from the vaccines, etc., what is their incentive for juking their own stats?

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JAFO's avatar

Better question: If what I'm saying is irrelevant, why are you wasting your time?

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Ibbiat's avatar

In other words, you don't have a theory for why every other country in the world might be saying that the vaccines are more effective than they really are?

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In what world would any country reverse what they've already said AFTER learning these 'vaccines' do not, and were never designed to, prevent spread of the infection they originally said would go away if everyone got their jab, especially after this much time has passed? Much safer to move the goal posts, fib and say 'we never said they would prevent infection, only that they prevent people from getting really sick and needing hospitalization." See how propaganda works? You must because you're giving every indication that you believe nothing except the 'official' government-approved, narrative. Like I said, Goering was an excellent propagandist, too. Go back to the start of this message/thread. The writer, like many many others, has lost trust in the institutions that are supposed to be forthcoming and protect us from epidemics and pandemics. They've failed in more ways than can be counted, starting with how to stop the spread of CoVid-19, wearing or not wearing masks, lockdowns, vaccines will save us, etc, etc, all while knowing there's really nothing that will stop airborne, community-spread, viral outbreaks. We've been studying viruses since the time we could see them in an electron microscope. We've known since then, via every study conducted since, that viruses will penetrate every known mask we can breathe through because the weave, no matter how tight, has larger holes than every known virus' physical size. If surgical masks alone worked, no virologist would ever need to don a hazmat suit to go to work in the lab. So why did Fauci change his position on them without ever pointing to the data HE said lead to that change? And why didn't anyone challenge his claim and demand the evidence HE says he saw? For me, that was the just the FIRST RED FLAG that the response to this outbreak was quickly becoming political instead of medical or scientific. But why am I telling you all of this if it's just 'irrelevant' anyway? By all means, keep towing the approved line, I'm sure your minders will reward you well.

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