There is a control group of different people, but there's no way to prove to me that a vaccine made my symptoms any milder - obviously my point. There's no actual way to do this, so the assertion that it does make everyone's symptoms milder isn't exactly provable.
Agreed. The question remains: Two people infected with Covid only, no other comorbidities, with similar, mild symptoms. Hospitalized? Let's say yes, just for the question. One 'vaccinated', one not. How can anyone say with absolute clarity and certainty the 'vaxxed' patient is better off just because they've taken the jab? If they ARE better off, how'd they end up in the hospital? Aren't all the jabs and perpetual boosters supposed to prevent getting that sick? (Ok, that's two questions.)
I keep an eye on the Covid hospitalization statistics that are tracked by the local government for the city where I live in the US, and a city in western Europe that I travel to on a semi-regular basis. The numbers agree.
So either 90% is pretty close to the actual number, or... there's a global conspiracy (George Soros?) that is so widespread and so effective that the local governments for two semi-random cities, in different countries, on opposite sides of the planet, are juking their hospitalization statistics.
Not at all. We both KNOW hospitals are paid more per Covid patient than other airborne viral conditions. So they quick-PCR test to find the tiniest measurable amount of virus in EVERYONE who walks in the door effectively padding the numbers for higher reimbursements. Nor am I saying I wouldn't do the same since it's legal to do so.
What I AM saying is Covid is not the Black Death (those same hospital statistics prove this) the media wants everyone to believe it is and it's not in everyone's best interest to be injected with drugs that haven't been through the same vetting processes that takes 10-12 years to complete for every other drug before they're ever considered EUA, IF they're ever considered at all, ESPECIALLY drugs that don't prevent the injectee from getting or spreading the infection it's meant to protect against.
Eh... do we actually know that hospitals are paid more for Covid patients? Do you have evidence of that?
Also, you don't know which western European country I was referring to. Is your idea that ALL hospitals in ALL western European countries are "paid more" per Covid patient? How do you think that even works for countries that have socialized medicine?
There is a control group of different people, but there's no way to prove to me that a vaccine made my symptoms any milder - obviously my point. There's no actual way to do this, so the assertion that it does make everyone's symptoms milder isn't exactly provable.
Agreed. The question remains: Two people infected with Covid only, no other comorbidities, with similar, mild symptoms. Hospitalized? Let's say yes, just for the question. One 'vaccinated', one not. How can anyone say with absolute clarity and certainty the 'vaxxed' patient is better off just because they've taken the jab? If they ARE better off, how'd they end up in the hospital? Aren't all the jabs and perpetual boosters supposed to prevent getting that sick? (Ok, that's two questions.)
You people are acting like we don't have data on this.
A vaccinated person is 90% less likely to end up in the hospital for Covid than a Covid-naive person.
How the f**k do you explain that, other than, the vaccine reduces the severity of infections.
Let me guess, because your uncle Goering said so, potty mouth?
I keep an eye on the Covid hospitalization statistics that are tracked by the local government for the city where I live in the US, and a city in western Europe that I travel to on a semi-regular basis. The numbers agree.
So either 90% is pretty close to the actual number, or... there's a global conspiracy (George Soros?) that is so widespread and so effective that the local governments for two semi-random cities, in different countries, on opposite sides of the planet, are juking their hospitalization statistics.
I guess that's what you think is happening?
Not at all. We both KNOW hospitals are paid more per Covid patient than other airborne viral conditions. So they quick-PCR test to find the tiniest measurable amount of virus in EVERYONE who walks in the door effectively padding the numbers for higher reimbursements. Nor am I saying I wouldn't do the same since it's legal to do so.
What I AM saying is Covid is not the Black Death (those same hospital statistics prove this) the media wants everyone to believe it is and it's not in everyone's best interest to be injected with drugs that haven't been through the same vetting processes that takes 10-12 years to complete for every other drug before they're ever considered EUA, IF they're ever considered at all, ESPECIALLY drugs that don't prevent the injectee from getting or spreading the infection it's meant to protect against.
Eh... do we actually know that hospitals are paid more for Covid patients? Do you have evidence of that?
Also, you don't know which western European country I was referring to. Is your idea that ALL hospitals in ALL western European countries are "paid more" per Covid patient? How do you think that even works for countries that have socialized medicine?
Right - this is a perfect portrait of what is inside my head about it.
LOL. Not sure if that should scare me or not. :)
By that logic no study is valid since the the technology doesn't exist to clone people for control purposes. That's ridiculous.
No, by that logic *the claim that it makes symptoms and cases milder is never valid.* Try to keep up.
I guess you aren't familiar with randomized double blind placebo controlled studies. Try to keep up.