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Evans W's avatar

Jennifer Welch is an ugly, foul mouthed, freak who plays to the emotions of other mentally ill, white, wealthy, middle aged women who get all their information from MSNBC & BlueSky. The stretched out, botox face of this woman is almost as bad as the hatred that spews from that horse mouth of hers. BTW.......I bet she can eat the shit out of an apple.

Recently she made this comment about Riley Gaines. “When I see the Riley Gaines of the world I think you are a walking, talking advertisement on why not to be a Christian. There’s no empathy, no room that maybe not everybody’s the same. There’s no desire when you see injustice and the bullying of other human beings to put your body in front of that and stop it. She’s a fucktwat”. Are you kidding me? Riley Gaines has accomplished more in the past 30 days then this nasty bitch will over her entire miserable existence.

Then there was this zinger. “Stephen Miller is a white supremacist, even though he's Jewish, he's like a Nazi Jew.”

Finally, she chimed in on Zohran Mamdani's win in NYC. "Everybody's so terrified of Zohran because they're going to see somebody who is Muslim… but fights… for trans kids. Fights for drag queens… Doesn't pal around with war criminals and terrorists like Benjamin Netanyahu." This woman is a modern day Irma Grese.

Make no mistake about it.......the real threat to democracy are lunatics like Jennifer Welch.

You don't hate the media enough - you think you do, but you don't. https://x.com/Evans_Wroten

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MG's avatar

You say horse, I say collie.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Serious question here: isn't Matt spending a bit too much time with the activities of the defeated? The former legacy media *don't matter* anymore. These ladies *don't matter*. Why are we spending our energies worrying about the whining of the out-of-power of the liberal elite?

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Rico's avatar

Because Matt makes it funny as hell!

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Paul Harper's avatar

Let me say we're blessed to have Matt and Walter humanizing the miserable. Turning one's back on institutional religion is one thing - kicking the faith of others to the curb a very different form of self-degradation. One thing I'm certain of - is that the folks these two souls sneer at pray for these two and their listeners daily. Had a great chat with a person of faith last night. I recounted standing on a train platform this week on my way to a medical check-up. A wheel chair whizzed by on the platform - the person within so small as to be unidentifiable. In a moment I realized this purpose-driven soul racing to be somewhere had probably spent her whole life in a chair, sans limbs. And yet, and yet...

All of us living first world lives are blessed. Hope these women and their listeners figure that out asap and start building a life of joy, irrespective of the defects of others.

Yes, humor is a great way to find the good in ourselves and in others.

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Chris's avatar

My take is because the culture wars now drive politics. The left doesn't argue rational policy differences any more all they have is Orange Man Bad. Sometimes you need to fight the enemy (and make no mistake, the people who call Riley a twat and celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk and wish Crooks had better aim are the enemy) on their own terms. Illuminate their idiocy and mock what absolute vapid "shit sandwiches" these two are.

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Kelly Green's avatar

I dont know. I read some Heather Cox Richardson and it seems like the self-delusion of people who have minimal cultural traction and cater to a tiny bubble is not worth studying much.

The difference with early Substack and independent voices like Matt being the lies. The truth wins out and these people telling each other self-delusional lies is going nowhere.

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Chris's avatar

I for sure don't know either, but I'd also point out that there are a lot - LOT - of self-delusional people who bought into the BS that men can *decide* to be women; that was the whole gist of "skeletor face" calling Riley a twat.

FWIW, I much more appreciate Matt for what he does for investigative journalism; there are more than enough talking heads offering opinions and not enough doing the hard work he is. His writing is funny as hell though and I appreciate the random takes on what is passing for culture these days.

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Outis's avatar

Still though, it is reasonable to want to get a better understanding of the attraction these putatively nonsensical sophists.

Richardson apparently has a giant following. Why? What does her audience hope to learn [sic]?

I've got a friend, smart and educated, who likes MSNBC because, as he put it, "They have people you won't find elsewhere."

I didn't say anything after he said this but was left with the impression he already had his opinions and was simply looking for continual corroboration and reinforcement. I admit feeling a little disappointed but the guy is a born-and-raised Minnesota liberal so I just let it go.

The degree to which people can live with abject inconsistency is amazing. I sure don't get it.

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Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

That's the thing right there.

I was a commie in my youth. Literally. (Socialist Worker's Party - Trotskyist. If only Snowball had won ... )

The workers that I tried to recruit recruited me.

They never wanted a workers' paradise, they wanted a four door pickup truck and a bass boat in the driveway.

Read Solzhenitsyn and watched Walesa perform miracles and never looked back.

Watching my erstwhile comrades redefine everything amuses me, but watching their success scares the **** out of me.

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Kelly Green's avatar

That is exactly what they are looking for, reinforcement.

There's an amazing amount of left-right split right now (or at least former leftists like Matt with remaining leftists) that has to do with how much you think for yourself versus how much you look for someone to follow. They're parrots. That's their natural position in life, following. It's fine, but it's true.

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Jennifer's avatar

I am convinced that with some people, many very intelligent, this is subconscious. They are genuinely incapable of according any weight to certain categories of information. In my experience, it is indeed best to just let it go.

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J Johnson's avatar

I must admit, as much as I love Matt's writing and overall take on the ridiculousness of our time, I could barely graze through this one. You see, I have absolutely no interest WHATSOEVER in these women. They are vile. They are ghoulish (and becoming more so as the Botox keeps flowing). They represent everything I despise. I am a happy person and reading their shit annoys me. There are too many serious things in this world to be annoyed about. I'll pass on these harpies.

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Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

Trotsky: "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."

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Outis's avatar

Exactly. Something is driving this and other, putatively not-unrelated social pathologies.

It is reasonable to be curious about what the underlying driver is.

There are extremes that seething hatred can lead to: young, middle-class males who feel morally compelled to take a vintage Mauser bolt-action and kill someone giving a talk because they claim that person represents a "hate" that can't be "corrected".

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Outis's avatar

Because there is clearly tremendous (financial, political, etc.) power behind these people.

The forces that continue to prop up legacy media outlets aren't simply going to "go away"....they're looking for new avenues of control.

As such, such vehicles need to be identified and analyzed. Preferably humorously.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

If Al Sharpton was a (supposedly) righteously angry white menopausal divorced woman . . . JW and dominated “friend” have found a new grift. Soon they’ll have their own non-profit— or maybe they already do.

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Paul Harper's avatar

Maybe, but perhaps there's just a really good buck in tearing down others.

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Random_Crow's avatar

I'm just waiting for my coworker -- who has never met a bad pop culture trend that she didn't immediately love -- start spouting about this podcast. At least I'm forewarned!

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Bill Cribben's avatar

It gives me a smile when Matt Skewers one of these skanks.

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Paul Zrimsek's avatar

Because it doesn't pay to overestimate the permanence of political victory. No matter how sure we are that the sharks with frickin' laser beams will finish off our enemies, we need to keep watching until it's actually done.

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Mark Blair's avatar

They will be back. Have you never watched a horror film?

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Kelly Green's avatar

The Blair Witch Project, but it sucked. Trailer was better.

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S Rudy's avatar

DEI, woke, leftism, etc. all need to be actively bashed and resisted for at least a generation *after* the breeding grounds (universities etc.) are cleansed. Maybe then can the non-left ease up. Corrections welcome.

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Kelly C.'s avatar

God help us, indeed, Matt. And God help those women. And God help anyone who considers the book as a guide for living. What a sad way to live.

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Tricia's avatar

God help their children.

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Random Shmo's avatar

The Wokiees are out of power - for now. Like their previous incarnation of the politically correct in the 80's and 90's, they are going to stew in their insanity, regroup, and do anything and everything to get power back. They will undoubtedly lie, cheat and steal to get power, and it behoves us to know how they are going to shape-shift into a new incarnation to try to sucker more fools into their cult.

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Arianna's avatar

So many books like this are written by editors. And organized with long-form software. Now with AI - who knows?

Waste of time.

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James R. R.'s avatar

That’s a fatal mistake to make. Yes, the legacy media is now at a nadir, though not amongst Blue-Party Americans, and if the alt-media continues to ghettoize itself with infighting and intellectual inbreeding, and MAGA continues to squander its political capital, the legacy media will return with a vengeance. Everything is cyclical. “That which has been is what will be, that which is done is what will be done.”

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Kelly Green's avatar

You misunderstand the fundamental change. It is technological

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Casey Jones's avatar

Maybe because they feed the sheeple -- whose votes count?

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Kelly Green's avatar

The sheeple aren't swing voters.

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Ellen Evans's avatar

Horses and collies are beautiful, though. So those are both off.

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j juniper's avatar

Collies and horses are much more entertaining.

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Worth Knowing's avatar

Others say opposum.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: If I had a plastic-surgery paved-over face, I too would be whining and kvetching until all the straps on my straight-jacket (sorry, trans-jacket) would pop and I then could go back to playing the slots at the Woke-Copia DC ("Discombobulated Casino"). Please pass the nickels bucket.

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rob Wright's avatar

I looked and listened to that Welch broad and later in the day my wife caught me staring at her. She asked me "why are you staring at me", and I just said, thank you.

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WilliamD's avatar

Good one!

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Kelly Green's avatar

Feel free to go with the "ugly" (you) and "skeletor-faced" (Matt). But it reveals some Skeletor-hearted ugliness.

While I watch the right turn the other cheek these days in the streets, for the most part, which is awesome, it would be good to see more grace here too.

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Evans W's avatar

There is no upside to 'turn the other cheek' with psychopaths like Welch. You must be unmerciful and savage to defeat hatred like hers. You can never provide quarter. Ever.

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Kelly Green's avatar

Please look back at what I wrote a bit more carefully. I said "watching turn the other cheek" in another adjacent situation, "it would be good to see some grace" in relation to Welch, meaning avoid oblique rude ad hominems. I didn't say "turn the other cheek" to her words.

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Evans W's avatar

Apologies and point taken. I stand by my comment of providing no quarter. Ever.

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Kelly Green's avatar

See, I could have used the snark version there ("learn to read" or somesuch), but we're both a bit happier and more aligned because I didn't. I think the civilly behaved right can win these battles faster with the public. When I see the footage out of Berkeley I think that the right is like the Freedom Riders and Committee on Racial Equality, not fighting back with their fists but taking the blows and winning hearts.

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Outis's avatar

You're getting a tad hyperbolic there, Evans, even if I think I thoroughly agree with you in spirit.

I would humbly suggest only the modification that we should be unmerciful and savage to the opinions and viewpoints being promoted: the person expressing them is but a vessel and more often than not, little more than a tool.

Welch and her ilk sure seem unhappy. They're also ostensibly sufficiently self-unaware as to fail to recognize this but instead thrash out at people onto whom they have projected their own internal images. Their vitriol is a sign of weakness.

That being said, trying to identify the source of this vitriol and the forces that promote such people into prominence is absolutely key.

We shouldn't mistake the messenger, who is the "effect", for the forces behind the messenger who are the underlying "cause".

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RuntheBackBay's avatar

You gotta get a grip.

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Kelly Alvin Madden's avatar

Not true.

They repent, I’m ready to accept their apology. Until then, truth at full volume.

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Nobody's avatar

People like Jennifer Welch have been insulting the ugly fat orange man for a decade now. You can't do that and cry victim. She's fair game.

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Biff's avatar
Nov 12Edited

One thing that I believe we can confirm, they may hate a lot of others, but they certainly do love themselves

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S.H. Jacobs's avatar

Disagree. All their hatred is born of self loathing that looks like love. It is narcissism.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Yeah this is a weird scene. "look at what haters those stupid ugly bitches are, boy they must be unhappy to be so filled with hate" say Matt and a series of frothing commenters rolling around on the floor chewing the rushes in fits of venomous contempt. okey dokey artichokies.

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Bull Hubbard's avatar

Why should anyone play nicely with the Mind Police or the left in general? Please give me Katie Hopkins any day, thank you.

Besides, as it's been said many times because it's true, after a while you run out of cheeks. I think the story of Katie Hopkins and the growth in popularity of her "Batshit Bonkers Britain" act is hilarious evidence of this.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you.

that is the fancy way of saying it. The plain way is that if you write a long slavering screed denouncing in gutter terms the despicable hateful nature of .... people who are not you, you look a lil bit silly and unselfaware.

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Nobody's avatar

Funny you never came out in defense of the Orange Man. Spare us your selective outrage. It is undeniably juvenile to make fun of someone's looks, but we are all guilty of indulging in juvenile behavior now and then, and public figures are fair game. No need to be a scold.

I think having a distinctive look is actually a plus for public figures. Love him or hate him, everyone recognizes The Donald's signature style. Same with Welch. She has a face you won't soon forget.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Wow I did not realize somebody was out there following every single thing I have done since 2016 such that they can state with confidence the limits of my utterances during the entire past decade. Amazing.

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Little Humpbacked Horse's avatar

True enough. Problem is when the denounced are denounced for denouncing, in gutter terms, people who are not the original denouncer.

As Gandhi said: "Eye for an eye ends with everybody blind."

That said, can you recognize that something like 50% of your fellow citizens are fed up with the bourgeois minstrel show? Progressivism is no longer a philosophy or political movement of the proletariat, it is now the province of anxious social climbers. (I'm sure Jennifer can tell you where to get the best Thai food in Oklahoma ... )

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Bull Hubbard's avatar

Sometimes.

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Hillary's avatar

Agree...I am a big fan of hers.

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Kelly Green's avatar

I don't think Jordan Peterson plays nice, but he doesn't resort to ad hominems either. Katie Hopkins is fine - I don't see her going around calling people ugly, just going around calling out hypocrisy.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Matt said nothing of the sort. Do you not think such musings by the privileged mentally ill should be handled with kids gloves so they don't feel bad? That people can write crap like that and make lot's of money and receive their "you go girl" high fives is a testament to the fact there is insufficient contempt for this sort of shite.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Thank you for explaining, now I understand the eleventy million dimensional chess in play: Shoveling the nastiest most mean-spirited contempt you can manage to show how OTHER people are nasty and contemptible is always persuasive and doing more of it is always necessary, once we shovel enough of it we'll be up to our ears in paradisiacal glory.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

I attempted no explanation, I expressed an opinion. Do you know the difference? I am at a loss as to what your real complaint is beyond bitching about people giving back that which they receive. why do you care?

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Kimberly's avatar

I agree. While anyone in the public square is open to criticism or critique, it is always disappointing when women are dragged for their appearance. We should be better than that as conservatives.

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Outis's avatar

Agreed, it's best to avoid indulging in that which one sees as repugnant in others.

I try to avoid engaging in ad-hominem responses even when I receive them.

That being said, I admit the "Skeletor" line did crack me up. It's one of Frank Langella's rare comedic roles. The movie is almost preternaturally bad. I admit I did pick up the DVD years ago as the movie came out during a particularly "challenging" period in my own life. Coincidentally, I just watched the first 30 - 60 minutes recently. It's really bad. Completely corny and contrived. Langella is very good though. One of those, "movies so bad they're enjoyable".

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Worth Knowing's avatar

Like another commenter said, she’s fair game.

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SuezCanal's avatar

Made me look up Irma Grese--thank you! And here's my thing: I'm always intrigued by "former Christians" (or whatever Sullivan calls herself) who clearly have never looked at their belief systems with any depth whatsoever. Sullivan is shallow, and her beliefs were shallow, and to run to the side of a bitter witch like Welch who opines on Christianity without grasping the significance of untold numbers of Jesus followers throughout history and cultures who found something much more compelling than she is willing to acknowledge is further evidence that she is empty. I see commercials on YouTube for this podcast and I have prayed for these women. They are broken. I have compassion for them, particularly now that Matt has given me some insight. I just moved to Oklahoma. Maybe I'll run into one of them and be able to show them some humanity, which they seem to lack.

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Evans W's avatar

Mark my words. The Welch/Sullivan train will part at some point. My money is that Sullivan will break ranks after Welch screws her over in some way. Bet on it.

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SuezCanal's avatar

I hope I remember to reach out to you when it happens! Welch is a media darling right now. I think she is going to get a lot more full of herself (if that’s possible) and really step in it and get cancelled HARD. Let’s compare notes!

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Lisa's avatar

Probably with a spat over a chandelier deal.

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Slappy Holroyd's avatar

Sullivan admitted: "I sold expensive furniture to the one percent. It doesn't get any shallower than that." Then adding, hilariously, "having money gave me emotional freedom." That's so shallow you could read a newspaper through it.

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Nobody's avatar

Woof. She's got great looks for radio. I asked chatGPT what might be the source of her distinguished looks, and it wasn't sure either, but there are rumors of a nose job and a chin implant. In any case, her personality suits the look. It's funny that Welch would put down her adversaries as psychopaths and religious addicts, because when I look at her face, two words that come to mind are 'psyochpath' and 'addiction'.

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Nobody's avatar

Some juvenile AI generated observations:

“She didn’t get work done — she opened a franchise.”

“Her face has more upgrades than my iPhone.”

“She's proof that money can buy confidence… but not subtlety.”

“Her face said ‘skip meals,’ her ego said ‘double down.’”

"She's not aging gracefully, she's patching aggressively"

"She looks like her surgeon had Wi-Fi issues halfway through"

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Ann Robinson's avatar

"You don't hate the media enough - you think you do, but you don't"

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Mark Kennedy's avatar

“There’s no empathy, no room that maybe not everybody’s the same.”

(?) Why are 'progressives' so prone to jumping to this conclusion about everybody who doesn't see things their way politically, not only without supporting evidence but even when such an accusation is plainly contextually incoherent? That men and women aren't “the same” is the major premise in Riley Gaines' argument, yes?

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Vet nor's avatar

Interesting that this botox commercial sees no bullying aimed Riley.

So much for that be kind sign in her car rear view window.

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Casey Jones's avatar

She only gets one vote. The REAL problem is the submissives that she draws in.

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John Fusto's avatar

Not to mention that Riley Gaines rose to prominence by being bested in women’s swimming by a dude and raised a heretofore uncontroversial objection.

Somehow that earned her the childish moniker of “fucktwat”.

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Bill Cribben's avatar

She may have been Irma Grese in a prior life. Good comparison

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Everything's a Song's avatar

Go touch grass, bro

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Evans W's avatar

Is that a song? 🤡

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Everything's a Song's avatar

It should be your swan song

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Evans W's avatar

Come on ‘bro’. You gotta do better than that.

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Everything's a Song's avatar

Nope. I don't watch these two women but you gave yourself away as being a clown when the first thing you said was calling them ugly.

Go touch grass and then smoke some.

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Evans W's avatar

And yet nothing I said was untrue. Cope.

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Nobody's avatar

Why the double standard? Trump is objectively ugly, and nobody has a problem making fun of his looks. Myself included.

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ShirtlessCaptainKirk's avatar

If Thelma and Louise would’ve ultimately turned out like these two sub-Erma Bombeck suburban shrikes posing as leaders of the Snark Revolution, driving a T-Bird into the Grand Canyon was their smartest move.

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Kevin Kanelsnurrer's avatar

Matt, you had me at “Skeletor-faced Mamdani supporter.” I had to stop reading for a moment and wipe the tears of laughter out of my eyes.

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BookWench's avatar

Almost every Matt Taibbi article has a few literal laugh out loud lines.

He is well worth the price of a subscription, just for the laughs. The actual journalism is just the cherry on top.

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Leah M's avatar

"Rosetta Stone of misery culture" = brilliant

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

i agree that's the Pulitzer line in this essay. :)

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

I have learned to never ever drink hot coffee while reading Taibbi. :)

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Joanna Miller's avatar

I know--I don't pay for the politics, I pay because I'm willing to shell out five bucks a month or whatever it is to laugh so frequently.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

you and me both :) :) Matt is a writers writer!

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Brent Nyitray's avatar

I am seeing a lot of Ozempic Face in the modern AWFL crowd.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Is that what that is? I figured it was just lip and pull surgeries that gave people that Nancy Pelosi look, but at 25 years younger and without the neck bolts to make micro-adjustments.

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BookWench's avatar

". . . neck bolts."

Bwahahahahahaha!

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

Hahahahaha yess!!! i love that there are so many terrific word smiths and writers in this crowd. Neck bolts indeed!!! :)

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: Here's a video of the men that Pelosi dated in the 1960's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U1Bz_NUKxQ

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BookWench's avatar

Bwahahahahaha!

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Don Reed's avatar

!!!

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Brent Nyitray's avatar

Yes. Ozempic attacks the sub-cutaneous fat in the face.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: So people are paying good money to be attacked by flesh-eating drugs?!

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Tardigrade's avatar

Not to worry, soon that good money will be paid by Medicare.

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Brent Nyitray's avatar

If only it solely attacked visceral fat.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

It's like Ayds candies, but with a better marketing team.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: "Candygram for Mongo!" ----- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH6_kasOHac

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Oh my!

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: Here's a video of the men that Pelosi dated in the 1960's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U1Bz_NUKxQ

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5JimBob's avatar

And just like that, “body positivity” stopped being a thing.

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Random Shmo's avatar

I can't wait for the AWFL crowd to get hit with all the really nasty side-effects of Ozempic - like pancreatitis, gastroparesis, and thyroid cancer. Then let the class-action lawsuits begin!

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Any line that can tie together personality disorders, bitter, middle aged divorce rage and 1980s cartoon characters from He-Man, I'm in.

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RSL's avatar

I liked “ Fierce, narrow-eyed Jen, who looks like the victim of a mad plastic surgeon who uses a Guy Fawkes mask as a model.”

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bestuvall's avatar

the truth hurts and is funny at the same time. thank to Matt

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Aaron S's avatar

These women are the epitome of, "I did everything society said I was supposed to do and yet still ended up miserable and alone because I only focused on the superficial (marry a rich man, not a good man who is rich), and now that the 'system' has made me miserable we should just burn it all down, but I'm also a good person because I want to burn civilization down to keep the downtrodden warmed by its flames."

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baker charlie's avatar

How 'bout just a good man? My husband and I squeaked by for 25 years but we were pretty happy with each other's company most of the time. Both of his sisters, who both married money and had money of their own, suffered terrible relationships with narcissists and told us how much they envied our relationship.

I'm not saying all rich guys are narcissists who treat the world like their private shark pit, but money ain't everything and specifically marrying some dude because he brings in the shekels at some big-time job is not often a recipe for happiness.

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Laura's avatar

I've already started talking to my young granddaughter about wanting a man like her dad or Pop pop who are incredibly kind and good men. If you choose a man because you're focused on something else, it is a recipe for disaster.

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Davey J's avatar

best marriage is to get rich together (and getting rich doesnt always mean money). Trying to find someone to grant you luxury as a condition of marriage has a 100 percent guarantee of an empty terrible marriage; because good men who have money wont' go near women like that. Period. So, they get the crap bags then are baffled why it didnt work out

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Tricia's avatar

If you marry someone for their money, you are at work 24/7.

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Aaron S's avatar

Oh I agree, I just mean that wealth is one of the shallow goals that seemed pervasive in popular culture as something that would mean you "made it".

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baker charlie's avatar

Gotcha. :)

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Tardigrade's avatar

I think they simply figured out a way to grift off their misery. Entrepreneurialism at its finest.

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Samuel Ralston's avatar

Well put.

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TWC's avatar

They are the epitome of insufferable females. Thats it....

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Bob Nixon's avatar

Why waste your time piling up college debt when you can just marry a rich asshole and make a killing bitching to other misanthropes with poor judgement?

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Random Shmo's avatar

That's a pretty good summation of their attitude; I'd put it even more succinctly that they are two bitter, shallow, entitled hags.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

spot on!

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Ken Baker's avatar

"I can't say what I believe in anymore except Rachel Maddow"

OMFG...

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MG's avatar

Woke radio host (Stephanie Miller) shares photo of herself proudly kissing the feet of firebrand Democrat congresswoman Jasmine Crockett...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15280177/radio-host-kissing-feet-firebrand-Democrat-Jasmine-Crockett.html

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BookWench's avatar

These people are so broken.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Insipid virtue signaling isn't a bug, it's a feature.

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Random Shmo's avatar

Maybe these nutbags think that they'll win their Kulturkampf by provoking the rest of us to projectile vomit with lethal intensity.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

People? People have.....i dunno......thoughts. These are walking talking algorithms.

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Manuel Lopez's avatar

OMG. Crazy.

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Janine's avatar

Oh I didn't realize it was the same person making a fool of herself

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SuezCanal's avatar

What same person? Stephanie Miller isn't one of the "I've Had It" women. But she could be.

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Janine's avatar

Ah thank you. Too much quick scrolling. I think I probably just don't want to remember their names. I listened to approx 2 mins of the latest podcast because of this article. They are whiners who probably attract people who need to vent, no substance at all. Just name-calling

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: Even if the prize for honesty would top the bounty placed on the head of Venezuela (oh, yeah. what happened to the Big Military Invasion, huh?), no man in his right mind would ever admit that he could recognize her from such a photo.

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Joni Lang's avatar

🤮🤮

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kevin egglestone's avatar

Matt’s congressional nemesis

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cgg's avatar

Someone is in dire need of an exorcist.

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Beans's avatar

Right? If that’s your girl crush, YIKES!

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Janine's avatar

Yes, that was a rather glaring statement of idolatry to say the least. I suppose the irony was lost, but I wouldn't be able to say without hearing her speak

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Indecisive decider's avatar

It's all they have in their lives. Anger. They just figured out a way to make a couple bucks by recording it. More power to them, but the timer on their 5 minutes just started.

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Janine's avatar

Odd how they embody the things they decry. No wonder Hassan Piker is a mutual admirer

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

I believe in Maddow too....in exactly the same way that I believe in brain cancer.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: Rachel is going to sue her for plagiarism (quoting Rachel without attribution).

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Rick S's avatar

I wasn't surprised but as old remote gods are swept away... weird idols of aspirational self worship emerge in the DNC hot house.

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Mark Blair's avatar

I'm hoping they were giving a punch line and not in the ballpark of being serious...

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Thank you for reading the book so we don't have to. AWFLs (Affluent White Female Liberal) are destroying America with their misery and virtue signaling. Two identical, radical, predictable girlbosses have just been elected governors of NJ and VA - Jennifer and Angie are the same as Abigail and Mikie: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/mikie-spanberger-nj-va-girlboss-governor

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Davey J's avatar

these vile people wont win. The country is full of wonderful women who value themselves and are not like that. Difference is they are leading their lives instead of spewing poison on the internet and therefore we think they don;t exist. But they do. Strap your life to women like that and you can build a great society.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: Hi., Yuri. You're doing great work! As for this (non-)book, the last one that Matt reviewed gave him a concussion. This time, I think he put his football helmet on before turning the pages. And if we were unlucky enough to be dating either of (I am legally obligated to state that they are) women, we'd be wearing one too.

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Mattlongname's avatar

I dont know where Hotep Jesus got this picture, but it is worth a thousand words.

https://x.com/HotepJesus/status/1815368539034788114?s=20

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Jackson74's avatar

I was thinking that not only would I never have read the book, but that it seemed unlikely that I would have seen a review in WSJ. Wonder if Matt is doing them a service by mentioning the book (and that it will be reviewed favorably on left wing sites). He says they are well known but it is new to me.

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Demetra Markis's avatar

Wow. I have no idea who these women are, but it’s alarming to imagine that they have a large audience who find them relatable.

Who find misery culture inviting? How can that possibly grow? Who would be drawn to such a thing?

I’m a white middle-aged woman who has been in phenomenally slim financial straits repeatedly in my life, because when choosing between money and relationships, I’ve always chosen relationships- like raising my daughter over working more, and releasing my ex-husband from alimony when he was financially stressed so we could be good co-parents.

As a result I have a modest income and very little saved for retirement. But I have incredible relationships with friends and family, a home in exchange for caretaking, service work that fulfills me, and an enormous faith in God being love. Who’s the rich one? I tell you I am one of the happiest people I know.

I will genuinely pray for these women to find peace, and for anyone who feels trapped by misery culture to open their eyes.

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publius_x's avatar

It's always the followers who scare me. I don't care whom they follow, but anyone who seeks a "leader" is an anathema to me.

I cannot stand people who talk about elected officials as "leaders." They are employees.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

It’s like the women of Atlanta, NY,LA ETC exhibiting awful behavior yet have large audiences. I have friends that tune in. I think, just an opinion here, that witnessing terrible behavior makes some people feel superior . You know, I would never do that, behave like that… yet they may actually be walking a fine line near some of that stuff.

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Matt Taibbi's avatar

I thought about that… I wonder if part of this act is designed to attract people who’ll gape at them as freaks. Maybe I was lured in. I bought the book…

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Christine Summerson's avatar

Maybe you can recycle the book. Use tongs.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: Hazmat suit. Don't forget to wear the hazmat suit.

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BookWench's avatar

It should be a tax write off, though. I hope.

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TWC's avatar

Lol. Thats funny...well done!

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Marie Silvani's avatar

Don't worry Matt, it's not all an act. Not absolutely sure about Sullivan but Welch she's real. Your description of her is factual. Her soul is so full of hate and decisiveness it shows. Sullivan, I don't know but suspect she's gotten caught up. I mean she even admits she has to watch MSNBC 24/7. That'll do it!

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Brian DeLeon's avatar

If I had a hideous visage like Jennifer Welch I’d be miserable too. The first time I saw her, I thought she was a man dressed as a woman.

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Random Shmo's avatar

That was my thought, too!

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publius_x's avatar

Tranny style is hip these days

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Mark Blair's avatar

Since folks shut down our circuses, I suppose we had to fill the big-tent-sized hole they left behind.

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Random Shmo's avatar

I doubt it; these two bitter hags sound like they're too shallow, too incapable of self-reflection to be able to dress themselves up as anything but what they are - and they think that they're awesome as they are.

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Nobody's avatar

"I think, just an opinion here, that witnessing terrible behavior makes some people feel superior"

Did you ever watch Jerry Springer?

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Nobody's avatar

Or Honey Boo Boo?

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Ann Robinson's avatar

There's a point at which feeling superior just isn't worth the trouble

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Art's avatar

Bless you. Choosing faith over nihilism seems to make people happier. It’s fascinating how many of us rediscovered faith after the Covid experiment on society.

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Joanna Miller's avatar

Amen sister. I’m in a very similar situation. I always tell my kids I’m wealthy in my friends.

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Marie Silvani's avatar

And my (our) life.

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Random Shmo's avatar

The people who find this misery cult appealing are those with a bloated sense of self-righteousness and a bottomless sense of entitlement.

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flyoverdriver's avatar

This piece ranks up there with your hilarious roast of Robin DeAngelo in 2020, Matt. And it’s a perfect companion piece: we see the intellectual ferment and spiritual degradation that has come over the miserable subset of our society that has been slow-boiling in DeAngelo World for the last five-plus years. The “AWFL” phenomenon, as others have simplified it.

Welch and Sullivan’s popularity is what you get when you reach a critical mass of people who have too much material comfort, too little appreciation for how they got it, too little understanding of themselves (the unexamined life), too little centering in any values except their own momentary self-satisfaction, and too much indulging of their adolescent emotions.

Mamdani’s victory and the increasing prominence of this type in our politics (Piker being the male side) has had me wondering: are we going down a path where, in 10-20 years, there will no longer be an electoral majority that could check these nuts? How do we stop the ascendance of these twisted and empty narcissists?

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

I was thinking the same thing!! That article is what put Taibbi back on my dashboard.

"Instead of trying to amp down her racial anxiety out of basic decency, this author fed hers steroids and protein shakes, growing it to brontosaurus size before dressing it in neon diapers and parading it across America for years in a juggernaut of cringe that's already secured a place as one of the great carnival grifts of all time."

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flyoverdriver's avatar

That’s a Taibbi all-timer.

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Nathan Woodard's avatar

It really is. It might be the single finest and truest sentence that I have ever read. If the Pulitzer committee continues to overlook both Matt Taibbi and South Park then we are going to have a serious problem. :)

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: When you get a chance, look up Matt's column about Trudeau (2023? 24?) after Matt was pushed off the plank by the Canadian political lice and resigned as PM. Hilarious!!!

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John Fusto's avatar

It’ll take some time but it will eventually collapse under its own weight.

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Ann Robinson's avatar

10-20 years? We should be so lucky.

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Joanna Miller's avatar

You know, I've been the spouse of a high earner who thought he was God's gift to women. Being angry and choosing to spread your misery to everyone around you is not the only option. People can choose to leave shitty marriages (being broke does suck, but there are worse things) and then focus on the good things in life. Your relationship with your kids is largely what you make it--if Welch screwed that up, well, that's on her. Plenty of other divorced women have found a great deal of emotional fulfillment in watching their children turn into wonderful young adults. I think the description of this as the next weird religion-thing to take hold of bored professionals is dead on.

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Janine's avatar

Well the highlight of irony in this story is that Sullivan is a "marriage and family law" aka divorce attorney. You'd think she might know something about navigating this? Personally I think they're both the kind of hucksters they decry

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Joanna Miller's avatar

Agreed.

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Indecisive decider's avatar

Yep. They even have their own liturgy, chants and like Scientology, they know how to scapegoat the few among them that attempt to poison the flock with questions and thinking and doubt.

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Liz's avatar

I am married to a kind and wonderful high earner. I think high earning a-holes are more annoying than the low earning ones, but there does not need to be a correlation to earnings. Good men are a treasure.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: Hey! That was me! And I WAS God's gift to women!

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Joanna Miller's avatar

Lmao 🤣

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Don Reed's avatar

!!!

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Rather Curmudgeonly's avatar

They are like a mash-up between a pair of NPR women and some ghastly cast-offs from Real Housewives.

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Robc's avatar

It's horrible to admit but I'd be tempted to watch the trainwreck of a "Real Housewives of NPR series"

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Daniel's avatar

Count me in

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Frances Taylor's avatar

The wannabe aristocrats paragraph really got me. I worked at one of the top global accounting firms and the WORST people were the wannabes. They were chasing the high life. They’d have no problem throwing you under the bus to get ahead at the firm.

Back in the 2010s it was all about being a foodie. Going to French Laundry and trying the expensive food. I asked an accounting friend what he thought of the food. He said he couldn’t describe it, just that it was good. But he thought that anything expensive was “good.” He was one of those wannabes.

The actual wealthy people that I met at the firm never flaunted their wealth. It was only in talking to them that you realized how wealthy they were.

One of the coolest people at the firm was a senior manager from an extremely wealthy Indian family. She told me that she had a nanny growing up and that actually her two other siblings had their own live-in nannies. I was totally shocked. I had never heard of such wealth. Each child having their own nanny? I asked her why she was working (she clearly didn’t need it) and she said she loved learning about companies and loved being around all the hustle and bustle of Silicon Valley business. She was in it for the fun.

She’s still one of the nicest, funniest, and most charming person I had ever met up in Northern California. NorCal people are different type of breed of Californians but that’s a whole different story haha. She was definitely special especially compared to the rest of the NorCal people lol.

It totally changed the way I thought about the wealthy. I realized it was the wannabes that were the ones destroying society. They thought that flaunting wealth made them wealthy but that’s not true wealth. Old money vs new money.

I come from poverty so I have the opposite mindset. Flaunting wealth means you’ll get jacked. So don’t flaunt it unnecessarily.

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Ken Baker's avatar

Through my wife I met a South Asian gentleman who came to Canada in his 20s, with an engineering degree, only to see the profession closed off at that time to anyone but WASPs who had gone to the "correct" schools. Undaunted, he started his own business and became quite wealthy, wealthy enough to donate millions for an activities/cultural center to adjoin a new Hindu temple in his community. However had he not done this, I doubt anyone would have known he was rich. He lived in a nice but hardly eye-popping house and drove a Honda Prelude, FFS. The only clue would be the fact that all his clothes fall on him perfectly, just so, which I suspect means that they're tailored. So I guess that's his one "rich guy" indulgence.

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Don Reed's avatar

11/12/25: He still owes me five bucks. Got his phone number?

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Joni Lang's avatar

😅

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Don Reed's avatar

!!!

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Frances Taylor's avatar

It’s always the little things like that. The quality of the materials in the clothing and of a brand that no one’s ever heard of.

The posturing of the brand name hype stuff has always been such a turn off to me. Why the heck would you want to be a walking billboard that you had to pay for? lol so ridiculous. I purposefully look for clothing and accessories that have no branding on them whatsoever.

My luxury purchases are in my eyewear. I require glasses and I go for what’s most comfortable. Totally worth the extra cost.

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Liz's avatar

My grandmother came from old money and had fewer possessions than anyone else I ever met, but all her clothes were had tailored. She would never show her money and spent a small fraction of what she could have. Her kids did not turn out so well.

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Nobody's avatar

Sorry but your story sounds questionable. I've been in tech for quite a while, and it was never WASP dominated-- it was pretty much the opposite of that, honestly. In the 80s and 90s it was full of autists and libertarians, and that gave way to the current crop of overachiever douche managers that would would have gone into law, finance and medicine a generation ago who have H1b wage slaves reporting to them. Well, wage slaves is a bit of an exaggeration because they are still pretty well paid.

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Ken Baker's avatar

He came to Canada in the mid 1960s.

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Nobody's avatar

OK, fair enough.

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MDM 2.0's avatar

the one sure way I know of to tell a person's net worth is to check the watch. Most times (no pun intended) if its a vintage well known brand they probably have money. Might be wearing old worn out jeans, Chuck Taylors and decades old flannel shirt, but the watch is a dead giveaway

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Lisa's avatar

In my (affluent) area, someone recently had a watch stolen. The crime victim stated the value as somewhere between 50 and 90 thousand dollars. A friend of mine said, “Yeah whatever, it could go forty thousand dollars either way.”

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Joe's avatar

In my 75 years I’ve had, maybe, ten people wish me a blessed day. If she’s being told to have a blessed day so often that she’s sick of it, that might be a tipoff that she gives off an aura of misery. She looks like she’s sucking on a pickle. I’ve never wished someone a blessed day but if I saw her I might feel compelled to.

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publius_x's avatar

Her pickle sucking skills are part of the reason she's divorced, no doubt.

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T247's avatar

Might not be divorced if they were better. I know that's crude, but it was such a softball I couldn't help myself.

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BookWench's avatar

I receive a lot of "blessed day" wishes, and I'm always honored by it -- but then I believe in God.

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Tardigrade's avatar

I don't, but I do appreciate the sentiment.

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Art's avatar

It’s common in certain parts of the country and when someone says that to me I light up inside and find the world a better place. It’s a wonderful cure for cynicism. Much of the time I hear it from black women of a certain age.

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deathcap's avatar

Where I am (GA) it's mostly older women of all shades and my neighbor Mike.

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Tardigrade's avatar

'She looks like she’s sucking on a pickle.'

You can't help your face, but you can help the expression you wear on it.

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Kick Nixon's avatar

Wokelahoma.

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Matt Taibbi's avatar

Love it

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Kick Nixon's avatar

I'm not worthy.

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MDM 2.0's avatar

stealing

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John David Truly's avatar

It’s sad to see people so confused about Christianity. Fact is they’ve grown up surrounded by religion - which needs to be understood as the man made pastiche of true relationship with God. They have every excuse to be roundly turned off by that and a little bit wise to do so.

What thousands of college students today are encountering is not religion but true relationship with their creator and savior where you no longer go sing hymns to get close to Him but get close to Him and then want to sing His praises.

So, these two, and so many like them are halfway there - turned off by man made tradition but, as yet, unaware they have a big hole in their core which only He can fill. Change is on the way.

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MG's avatar

The college ministry at our church is HUGE and growing every week. They come to the 8:00 service which amazes me. There is hope.

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BookWench's avatar

I read somewhere yesterday that more young people attend church than old folks do. I'm not real big on organized religion, but this is an important first step away from the materialistic nihilism permeating our culture.

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Liz's avatar

Organized religion does a lot of good in the world. Few things are all good or all bad. People shit all over organized religion almost as a reflex. I believe the problems are inherent to all large organizations, but so are the benefits.

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Liz's avatar

Well said, the purpose of organized church is to organize support for people and make sure no one is neglected, and also to hear others so we can question our beliefs and grow stronger. Our relationship is with God directly. I have noticed that many faithful who do not attend church can wind up thinking very narrowly. Nothing makes me happier than talks or comments I disagree with so I can examine my views. This cult like description of church attendance is not something I can relate to.

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John David Truly's avatar

So many think of “church” as something we do on Sunday morning rather than the body of believers Jesus established.

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Mark Blair's avatar

It is distressing to hear of someone that spent so much of their lives around Christians, yet seemed to know so little about the actual Word of Christ. Heartbreaking.

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Carlos Marighella's avatar

I never even heard of these two until you and Walter talked about them on Monday night. I never even heard of that asshole who abuses his dog until you and Walter talked about him on ATW.

Thanks for steering me away from these people.

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BookWench's avatar

It's like Matt & Walter are performing a public service with this coverage.

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badnabor's avatar

I guess Matt picked up some of the self abuse traits from his time in Russia, I don't know Walter's excuse, but their sacrifices, for us, are under appreciated.

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Rick S's avatar

Just curating our descent down the rabbit hole... a public commiseration club of unhappiness it is a Trump stole our joy thing.

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Randall Hodge's avatar

People in Oklahoma City who know those whorish vile women will tell you Jennifer Welch in particular would walk down the street butt nekkid, just for the attention.

Mark and avoid. Also, bring back peaceful non violent witch burning.

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badnabor's avatar

Good Lord! As if it wasn't already bad enough for you folks having to reside so close to those OU Sooners right next door, now y'all have these two apostates roaming your streets! I've always heard that the birds fly upside down across Oklahoma....(there's nothing worth shitting on). Just kidding!

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

you only see this kind of comment nowadays in curdled left spaces.

The right wing of American politics doesn't come close to hating women with this kind of sour violence, you really only see it in the hard left (which thinks women should shut up about male rapists housed with women prisoners) and the jaded semi-ex-left of this variety (foaming deranged bile about women being witches)

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Darius's avatar

Don't they remind you of the White Chicks movie by the Wayans?

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