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LaVerne Karras's avatar

I can't argue with you about the Democrats acting like fascists, but you just don't understand economics, where do you think the money the 1% came from? America makes almost nothing, the GDP is created by taking the money from YOU and transferring it to the 1% by way of rent of money(interest) and services like insurance premiums real estate profits and rent, gross profits on medical products and services and corporate monopolies, all unearned income.

Republican or Democrat means nothing, it's just two different faces of the uniparty, both serve the 1% and their donors. Mark my words, if/when Trump is re-elected, unless you are in the 1%, nothing significant will change for you except you will be more poor.

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Timothy Andrew Staples/pop122's avatar

I disagree.

The problem today is *political*, not economic. It's not the *wealthy* (private capital) that built this. It's the Statists and the People. The People have allowed public power to grow so large that all markets are distorted beyond function. Yes, the system is gamed by all, but the system is created and run by anti-Capitalist Democrats, not Republicans, at least in very large measure (I am trying to avoid hyperbole here).

If we allow Democrats to stay in power, it will only get worse.

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LaVerne Karras's avatar

Like I said, you don't understand the system, and while it was implemented by the politicians, it was designed by the 1%, the wealthy skim the profits that YOU generate. Look up the definition of a rentier capitalism system is, here's a quick sample: RENTIER CAPITALISM - A system where large corporations gain significant amounts of profit as a consequence of the ownership and control of assets(Finance, Insurance and Real estate), rather than from innovative, entrepreneurial use of economic resources.

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Timothy Andrew Staples/pop122's avatar

I am well versed in economics, as well as the the corrupt crony system.

Like I said, it's *how* this anti-Capitalist, anti-free-individual system came to be that is important in its dismantlement.

It's either the ballot box (voting out the Fascist Dems with Reps, who are now responding to their voters, imo, yours may differ) or eventual blood in the streets.

By equating both parties, you leave us under continued Democrat misgovernance and unfairness (and all the things you accurately complain about in economics), which can only lead to the latter future.

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LaVerne Karras's avatar

There is no real difference between the two faces of the uniparty, each say what those that are ideologically wed to their 'party' want to hear and yet the study by Princeton shows that you don't matter, the only way bills get passed is if they benefit the wealthy, the ones that got there on your back. Think back, what was the _real_ difference between an Rep or a Dem administration to you personally, yes, both of them stoked fear of what the other party would do, but neither made any real _positive_ changes to your life, it's all about getting _your_ sheeple to vote for you, and once you are elected, you have four years at the trough before you have to start lying to them again. You know the story, well, we were going to do what we told you we would do, but those evil ______ wouldn't let us and voted down our bills.

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Timothy Andrew Staples/pop122's avatar

You keep repeating the same lament, and it will not solve anything.

There is every difference today between the parties, now that DJT support has driven out the neocons, for the most part. Of course, it will take the Republicans, now firmly in anti-woke, libertarian control, decades to reverse the damage (only some of which you well state here) of 100+ years (since at least the advent of Wilson's Progressives) of Democrat Party Statism, and return limited, Constitutional gov't.

But now I will stop repeating *myself*.

What is your solution, LaVerne?

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LaVerne Karras's avatar

The solution is going back to _industrial_ capitalism and back to higher taxes on the 1%, I know your ideology wouldn't permit that, but think about the 50s and 60s, I was there, from your picture, it looks like you may have been too, it was reasonable to expect to have your own home, a new car and any job you desired and were willing to work for. I remember when you could quit your job and walk down the street and have a new job the same day, regardless of your profession or trade, try that today. It's now fully expected that this generation will not be able to live at the same level as their parents, regardless of their drive and education, you decry Wilson' progressives but reversing what they did has NOT made anything better, except for the 1%, look what happened to income disparity after Reagan.

Ideology aside, financial capitalism has nearly run it's course and the typical result is revolution, historically that has been what happened, it happened to the Greeks, it happened to the Romans, it happened to France and it happened to the British colonies that became the USA. The rich will not give up what they took willingly, and they have the resources to fight you and frankly, they have access to all the media so they can convince you that even though they have financially raped you, it's a good thing!

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