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Lars Porsena's avatar

They also lied by omission stating his weapon had ‘Trump’ written on it implying it was some kind of tribute. It said ‘Kill Trump’ on the rifle and also on the optical device. Slime from top to bottom.

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JD Free's avatar

ABC News spoke that claim on the air. "The name of President Trump written on the gun", clearly intended to imply Trump support as strongly as the facts could be twisted to do.

"No evidence the shooter targeted Catholics", said by the same people who endlessly insist that everyone who voted against Barack Obama was motivated by racism.

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Torpedo 8's avatar

I have a feeling when I'm shooting indiscriminately throught the windows of the Annunciation during morning Mass that I'm probably targeting Catholics, but that's a stretch for the microcephalics at ABC News.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

He was specifically targeting Catholic children.

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Kick Nixon's avatar

.. anencephalics at ABC News.

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Torpedo 8's avatar

Anencephalics have no brain, microcephalics are pinheads.

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Patrick's avatar

Either of whom politicize everything suck.

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Scara's avatar

If they're still doing "comment of the week" this one wins by a mile

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Deb Barnhart's avatar

LOL!

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Ralph's avatar

Look, Mr. Deplorable, we *can't* look inside the motivation of a marginalized trans-woman killer!

Our psychic insight only works on the white racists in fly-over states who voted *for* Obama but against Hillary!

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Katherine Blair's avatar

Wowzer! Deplorable, huh? Everyone in flyover country is deplorable. You have stopped being human. Seek help.

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Ralph's avatar

I never claimed to be *human,* Katherine!

Just putting on my Hillary Lizard People voice for a little sarcasm!

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Molly's avatar

“No evidence the shooter targeted Catholics” ARE YOU JOKING? Did they ACTUALLY say that? I wanna tear my hair out holy fuck.

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Molly's avatar

Bro what?

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Bobby Lime's avatar

Upper Class Twit of the Year quality.

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Roger Holberg's avatar

ABC also said his messages were critical of Israel neglecting that what he also wrote that "6,000,000 isn't enough" which pertains not to Israel but, rather, to Jews generally.

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Terri's avatar

The trans community here in Minnesota is obsessed with revenge, porn, guns, and mocking Christianity. I have been submerged in their seriously sick online presence for years until they have abandoned Facebook for twitter than X and now Bluesky. I am not a gamer but Twitch is a platform where they seem to find a lot of support. It’s a cult. It can not be argued to be anything else. It’s the same lonely young males in particular who find a willing audience who rachets up their world view, violent fantasies and AGP. These people should be under some kind of watch. They openly call for violence against women, children and Christians all the time. This is not a 1st Amendment issue. This is a terrorism issue.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

There's now a Manson-like cult of trans who call themselves the Zizians. They were responsible for the murder of a Canandian Mounty earlier this year.

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KissesandNoise's avatar

The truth is there are plenty of trans folks trying to live their lives, but the disproportionate amount of violence in that community shouldn't be ignored. Is it mental illness associated with the trans condition? Is it depression spawned from the unfortunate condition that leads them to be medicated with SSRIs and antipsychotics, which seem to cause violent tendencies in some people? A little from column A and a little from column B? Testosterone and other hormone supplementation? Hormones mixed with other meds? I've known some pretty aggressive trans people and it seems like more than a 'chip on the shoulder' situation. I've joked that a trans guy (woman? - the male that wants to be female) is like a woman with serious PMS, but man bones and muscles. Scary.

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Rob Landeros's avatar

Start with the premise that you have come to believe that you are a different person than your physical body strongly indicates that you are. I would call it psychic disassociation. Not conducive to good mental health, I would think.

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

I keep hearing about the "plenty of trans folks trying to live their lives," but see no evidence of same. In particular, I see very few trans-identified individuals speaking out against trans violence, or against trans-identified males cheating at women's sports, or the mutilation of children. Why is that, I wonder? Maybe because the silent trans-identified people are in agreement with the activists?

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That TERF Owl's avatar

We were told silence is violence, except when it comes to this. They DON'T call it out because it's so pervasive. I mean, just look at the t-shirts and other merchandise about "protect trans kids." The one on the lieutenant governor that is a popular design.. has a giant knife on it. There are other ones about trans rights that have large guns on them.

Democrats and trans activists feed into the phobia indoctrination of this group. A research who used to use the pen name Eliza Mondegreen (I can't remember her actual name) has written extensively on this.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-violent-rhetoric-of-trans-activists-has-to-stop/

From that piece: "Take trans activist and American Civil Liberties Union lawyer Chase Strangio. Two years ago, the ACLU lawyer argued that legislation that restricts access to hormones and surgeries for gender-questioning youth is “akin to killing us” and has since claimed that Republican legislators “want to control and eradicate us.”

The person who argued before SCOTUS in Skrmetti (a woman pretending to be a man) is telling people legislation is genociding them.

https://elizamondegreen.substack.com/p/phobia-indoctrination-not-trans-genocide?utm_source=publication-search

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/trans-phobia-indoctrination

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

“We were told silence is violence, except when it comes to this.”

Nice play on my comment, LOL!

Looks like silence is still collusion with violence, just directed towards a different group of victims than the left planned to target.

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Mike Williams's avatar

Same as you don`t see the deluded/narcissistic gay men who like to pretend (this month)they are women complain about their fellow travellers only trying to do drag shows for children..and never any shows for adults like retirement homes etc....

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KissesandNoise's avatar

I mean I'm sure there are, but I just said that to avoid making a generalization about a group and coming off as, dare I say it - transphobic - hahaha.

The truth is that there is no real movement. No cohesive, singular goal like with something such as gay marriage. This trans thing appeared out of nowhere and it was not a ground-up, grassroots movement based on equality, justice and human rights. No one here gave a shit about trans people. Normies just lumped them in with gay and thought everything was OK. It's a top-down movement from think tanks and corporations to distract and divide. Now that it's a trend, a new victimhood, and a shield to protect people from their bizarre behavior the numbers have exploded with posers. People with true gender dysphoria - not Munchausen or hipster gender dysphoria - is an incredibly small number of people. And those people are not denied any civil right en masse. I would bet that 99.9999% of violence against trans people is when a Jon finds out his prostitute is a guy after the blowjob.

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Admiral Glorp Golp's avatar

Well you bought the propaganda. Good luck

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Admiral Glorp Golp's avatar

Pretty much how I feel about it. And the men wanting to be women are already the lowest of the low and are outcasts as is with a hatred of society so you know… color me skeptical of the whole “plenty just wanting to live their lives” thing.

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Rita Rippetoe's avatar

Well, you won't notice the trans people just living their lives because they are going to work, coming home, not committing crimes or filming themselves being misgendered in public places, hoping to not be noticed. Not every member of a minority feels called to activism.

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tracy's avatar

Because by definition, to call oneself born in the wrong body is to be a LIAR

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Eric Gordon's avatar

" Is it mental illness associated with the trans condition? Is it depression spawned from the unfortunate condition that leads them to be medicated with SSRIs and antipsychotics, which seem to cause violent tendencies in some people?"

"mental illness" ..."trans condition"... "medicated with SSRIs and antipsychotics"

I think you answered your own questions there.

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badnabor's avatar

I'm wondering along the same lines. Hormonal imbalance has long been known as a contributor to aggressive behavior. I watched and listened to Dudett's video and it sounded batshit crazy.

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tracy's avatar

No such thing as "trans folks"

There are two SEXES

ZERO men are EVER women

ZERO people are EVER born in the wrong body

ZERO mammals can EVER change sex

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That TERF Owl's avatar

Katie Daviscourt, who reports on Antifa's continued protests at the ICE facility in Portland, was looking through court records recently since the protests began, and she noted that 99% of them are "trans" or "non-binary." These are not well people. And yet Democrats want to pretend it's a civil rights issue like any other. Sure, mentally ill people have human rights but it's not a good call to make all of society affirm their delusions (and codify these protections by putting "gender identity" on level with sex).

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Violet Bick's avatar

They’re also obsessed with recruitment and troll for disenfranchised or depressed people looking for an answer. Being a cash cow, the medical community is just as complicit. These people have psychological problems, some quite severe, long before they “discover” they were born in the wrong body. ROGD anyone? The root issues go unaddressed, and then you have carnage or suicide. This is true evil.

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Patrick's avatar

Nice hat , Violet ! 😄

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NickO.'s avatar

They have found a hell of a niche as a protected class. It's amazing that such people are considered victims by so many.

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Patrick's avatar

Remember - Politically expedient lives matter

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bestuvall's avatar

and yes.. all about sucking in those vulnerable people. this amazed me,,,who knew.. may these two and their ilk rot forever..no mercy..https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/leaders-764-arrested-and-charged-operating-global-child-exploitation-enterprise

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Mike Eyre's avatar

Sounds like Reddit.

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Patrick's avatar

Why are you still there? What a cesspool !

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Ann Robinson's avatar

Why is no one tracking these people who lovingly publish online “manifestos?" The govt seems willing and able to track perfectly sane political views it deems potentially dangerous, so why not extend its expertise to perfectly insane views that are explicitly criminal?

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Rob Landeros's avatar

I don't like the idea of government tracking anybody unless they have proven, in court, to be a criminal.

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Ann Robinson's avatar

Aren't there algorithms used to identify potential terrorists for LE watch-lists? i see these mass shooters as domestic terrorists rather than garden-variety thugs.

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An independent observer's avatar

They are domestic terrorists. What else could they be called?

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Ann Robinson's avatar

I don,t like it either but it (govt) doesn't seem to mind whenever it suits. I can live with the govt hauling online threats into court.

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Salvatore Monella's avatar

Uh, stop and think about that for a second - no tracking until convicted of a crime? A) How do you think plots and conspiracies are prevented? B) What if you received a tip about an upcoming crime, but refused to act on it because “no conviction”. You’d be an ass and hopefully made into a public spectacle as an object lesson in how not to act/think.

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Gregory Schmidt's avatar

Bingo.

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KissesandNoise's avatar

That's so funny because the first thing I saw - maybe an X post - was an ammo clip with 'Kill Trump' written on it. So when the a deceitful media tries to deflect from the shooter being trans there is probably a thread to be pulled on with the trans violence angle

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Mike Eyre's avatar

Another lie by omission from the CBC, which I wake up to every morning: "The FBI is investigating this as an anti-Catholic hate crime." No mention of the domestic terrorism component, which is clearly the more genuine motive. In Andy Ngo's excellent piece, he cites from this killer's manifesto the desire to inspire others to kill. You only go after children if your goal is to freak people out to the maximum extent possible.

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Jan's avatar

The WH has tweeted a translation of the journal. It covers most of his problems since 7th grade. He is quite introspective at times, and very open about his condition. I would recommend everyone interested to read it. It is fascinating in a horrible way.

This man was a tortured soul who desperately needed help.

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Paul Harper's avatar

I'll be grateful if Matt and Walter skip the topic entirely.

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Paul Harper's avatar

Update - just learned a friend lost an adult child in the west coast. All detailed discussion of losses in families while families are still grieving should be private, not public.

We might consider respecting the feelings of the families before all else.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

Then nothing will ever be discussed, because "closure" is as elusive as The Loch Ness Monster.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

And you, by clearly and flatly stating "his" weapon, seem to be about on The Times's level. Why is "who" the shooter is such a ridiculous debate with everyone? Some asshole becomes the latest mass-shooting fuckwad. Maybe we should talk about victims vs. identities and whether the shooter loved or hated Trump?

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madaboutmd's avatar

Because he was mentally ill and a manifestation of that is his "gender dysphoria". It's in the DSM-5. Now add prescription or perhaps illicit drugs and they could be contributing factors. It's critical to name the problem and challenge all medical professionals to figure out how best to treat the mentally ill.

I would much prefer to put those beautiful innocent Catholic children and seniors who were 100% targeted to get all of the attention. Instead the media would prefer to take a side and most of us are effing sick of it!

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tracy's avatar

It's not "picking a side". Governments should grant no fake sex id.

ZERO men are EVER women

ZERO people are EVER born in the wrong body

ZERO mammals can EVER change sex

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Ann Robinson's avatar

There are an awful lot of mass-shooting fuckwads around, and any progress towards a possible solution demands a thorough exploration of motives and causes. If drugs/teachers/parents/bullies/isolation/illness/electronics/ideology etc etc are common denominators, one or in particular combination, they need to be identified so that possible alleviations may be put in place. You can"t hope to solve a problem without accurately naming the stresses. The idea of a young man targeting large numbers of little kids after barricading the doors to prevent escape is more serious than just some asshole acting out his fuckwad fantasies.

I understand your frustration at what you consider knee-jerk reactions - it's like mine when politicians start yammering about gun-control, but these mass murder/suicides have become a terrible symptom of rampant cultural disease.

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tracy's avatar

There have always been murders and always will be.

No one obeys the 10 commandments.

They're nothing more than a virtue signal, a set of regulations elites hold above the heads of the plebs, when it suits them.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

You are one of a very, very, very few who actually want to know motive to understand why this continues to occur.

There’s one more common denominator—guns. But no one wants to talk about that, like no one is actually concerned with what social media is doing to people’s brains. Drugs won the Drug War, so it doesn’t do any good to talk about that. Bullies have been around forever. The teaching profession gets nowhere near the respect it used to. Too damn many parents, having never said NO to a child, wonder why the child goes looking for a Columbine.

And it’s all about distraction. It’s one more thing to keep us unfocused on the ongoing theft of the bottom 90%’s money by the top 10%.

No one in power wants mass shootings to end. 1. They keep us distracted, and 2. The blame game between the tribes reinforces number 1.

Hence my point—who gives a shit who did it? It’s done, and can’t be undone. Can’t blame it all on the media either, since they know damn well by our clicks and likes what stories we’re looking at.

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tracy's avatar

Murder has always happened, all the time, everywhere, and will continue. The only way to end that would be to magically grant us all perfect living conditions. Ain't happening. So deal.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

Of course it will continue to happen. Who said it wouldn't? I'm not having trouble dealing with anything. The 30,000+ annual gun deaths in this country will continue, including about 4 children per day on average. If no one can get excited over 4 kids wasted every day, why should I bother with 2, 12, or 26 or more happening all at once? Drops in the bucket. No one wants to fix it.

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The Man Who Shouldn't Be King's avatar

1. We know full well you wouldn't be saying that if the shooter was a conservative Christian MAGA guy who shot up a bunch of trans kids.

2. This dude was a dude. It's not a matter of opinion or something that can be changed with a label. Humans come in two sexes, the technology does not exist to turn one into the other, and people who think otherwise are simply deluding themselves.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

Well, you missed my entire point.

I’ll go slower. Whenever a mass shooting occurs, dipshits in both tribes want to know if they can blame it on the other. That’s more important than whether the fucker gets caught. With no concern at all for those killed or their families. It’s all about “can we put points on the board?” It’s retarded.

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The Man Who Shouldn't Be King's avatar

Your comment was itself an effort to put points on the board, as you say. I responded to that directly. Can't imagine you didn't get what I was saying, so I guess you're still trying to score points.

The bedrock reality is that people cannot change our sex, however much the NYT, or you, or anyone would like to pretend we can. Pointing that out isn't engaging in status competition. It isn't even making an argument. It's just stating a fact.

You're treating a delusional mental illness as if it is a legitimate point of view. And you're doing it to "score points". I'm guessing most of the people you know are doing the same thing. Please stop.

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Lawyers Guns & Money's avatar

(Sigh) The story is not about whether one can change one’s sex or not. Take your bedrock realities somewhere relevant. The story is about innocent people being murdered.

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The Man Who Shouldn't Be King's avatar

Then why did you bring it up in your initial comment?

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tracy's avatar

95% of violent crime is by men.

This dude is a dude, the delusions he lives by make him more violent, not less violent.

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Sylvia Bowersox's avatar

What kind of meds. was the murder on?

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Tomas Pajaros's avatar

crux of the biscuit right there.

anti-depressants to numb the depression

makes you not care . . .not care . . not good

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Tom Burns's avatar

One has only to read the black box warning labels on SSRIs and anyone sane will understand why school shootings became a "thing" with their introduction and widespread use! Another in a long list of #pharmacrimes against humanity

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Cross-sex hormones also wreak havoc. And I've been on an SSRI for years and would have offed myself long ago without it. They may be overprescribed, but they have their uses. And trust me, I care . . . too much sometimes.

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EGTuna's avatar

Thank you for this post. SSRIs are over-prescribed for sure, but they also save lives. My wife for one. The "care....too much sometimes," quote is spot on. I hope you're doing well.

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Thank you. I live and don’t just survive. I hope the same is true for your wife.

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KissesandNoise's avatar

They totally have their uses, but I think the point is those drugs can have side effects for some people that include violent or suicidal thoughts. I don't think there is a mass shooter that wasn't on some form of meds. I also think you have a point that needs to be examined, which is the mix of those drugs AND hormone therapies

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

You have a point, but when it comes to mass shooters on meds, is it really cause and effect or are mass shooters just suffering from mental illness and people have been trying to treat it?

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j juniper's avatar

I read/heard somewhere that if you give a man or boy female hormones it doesn't turn them into a beautiful young woman, but actually a menopausal old woman.

As a menopausal woman myself, you do NOT want to go there.

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Jennifer's avatar

Glad to hear that! As should be evident to everybody, we do not all react to pharmaceuticals the same way. We don't all react to bee stings the same way. Or anything else for that matter. The COVID shots are a prime example.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Good to hear the SSRIs helped you, but it's a fact that some (not all) will have negative psychological side effects.

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

I’ve not actually met anyone that did have a negative reaction, at least to the one I take.

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Heyjude's avatar

Wasn’t it proven a few years ago that while SSRIs target serotonin uptake, the evidence linking serotonin and depression is extremely weak? I remember the outcry that SSRIs work, even though we can’t prove how they work!

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

They work to relieve my anxiety, particularly as fall comes on. They’ve worked for other people that I know. It’s not something I have to take on faith. But my problem is anxiety, not depression.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

For many years we've been going through the same thing, but with more official pressure, regarding the prescription of benzodiazepine tranquilizers. Without going into detail I will tell you that I have combat - like permanent injuries. Ideally, I would be prescribed 5 mgs of clonazepam at bedtime, and I was, until a few years ago, when what one of my doctors called "a reign of terror" began to be prosecuted in my state by its medical bureaucrats. There may be a doctor somewhere in this state who would prescribe those 5 mgs per evening, but I doubt it.

They're terrorized by the possibility that their licenses to practice will be yanked. Because they are, my dose was abruptly cut from 5 mgs to 3. That isn't enough to provoke a crisis, but my sleep hasn't been as good since.

Like SSRIs, benzodiazepines are major league drugs, and they should never be regarded casually, but one interesting quality they have is that when a patient reaches a needed dose, it's rare that eventually he finds himself needing a higher dose. Yet about fifteen years ago, a superspreader - like phenomenon of horror about what benzodiazepines MIGHT do to long time medical users of them in large amounts swept the medical profession.

I regard it as medicine's first major mass idiocy of the 21st century; medicine is prone to mass idiocies the way a boyhood friend of mine who died early of lung cancer was prone to pleurisy when we were children.

Lillia, I wish you the best with your SSRI.

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steven t koenig's avatar

You've been duped

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Lillia Gajewski's avatar

How? Are you telling me that I didn't experience what I've experienced? The science behind SSRIs isn't hard. I'd read up on it before I start yammering on about how other people have been "duped."

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Pat Robinson's avatar

Its very likely that you are both right. Something can help one person but hurt the next, there is no drug or treatment that provides 100% guaranteed outcome. Which is why i support vaccines but 100% oppose vaccine mandates.

I myself have very peculiar reactions to small amounts of some substances, like echinacea, certain fillers and "inert' substances used in meds.

I have a mild dairy intolerance but if i eat a sausage that uses milk solids as fill that is 24 hours of pain, sweating, cramps, lower body explosions, etc.

There is becoming lots of data that SSRI's make "some" people psychotic, sociopaths, just like some people develop irreversible mental issues from THC where others exhibit no issues (this is where the explosion of drug addicts comes from, decriminalize THC and give access to all and that small susceptable percentage suddenly because a huge number of actual people, lives ruined forever.)

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Bobby Lime's avatar

What a rude, asinine thing to say. If we were all having an actual instead of virtual conversation, and this were still a decent society, someone would slug you.

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Art's avatar

I’m pretty sure his vape pen wasn’t for SSRIs.

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Jan's avatar

He had extreme guilt over vaping, and eventually gave it up for cigarettes.

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Judith Cohen's avatar

And hormones to change your gender

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gortroe's avatar

Have you no shame, NYT! It takes ignorance and the bad faith of politics to overlook the well described negative effects of the kind of extensive hormone altering drugs that sex changes require. Even the relative smaller doses taken by women bodybuilding for strength and muscle building have been implicated in dangerous health effects. Taking the amount of testosterone required to lose female characteristics and take on male features is a massive assault on the brain and body. Doing this to the developing bodies of minors is nothing less than disgraceful, criminal. The same is true for biological males seeking to lose male characteristics by increasing the amount of estrogen. THese dangers are not only supported by common sense and observation, but also decades of research and clinical evidence.

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Amos's avatar

I wonder if anyone is keep stats? Not all of these stories make national news. Google Connor MacCallister

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bestuvall's avatar

did. wow.... brutal. just like he wanted it

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Probably started with ritalin and then added on more chemicals as the years went by.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

Please read the book, "Delivered From Distraction," by Edward Hallowell, M.D., and John Ratey, M.D. The book is about ADD, and it deserves its status as a classic.

ADD is real. It has nothing to do with the way a child is raised. It's a brain based disorder. Four parts of the brain show up with differences from the norm on imaging studies of ADD patients.

I've GOT the damned brain type, so don't expect me to remember which parts of the brain they are, but there are four which are slightly but significantly smaller than the same parts in you normies. This makes the wiring in those parts of the brain somewhat looser, and yes, that is where the term "he's not too tightly wrapped" comes from.

Because of the brain differences, what the authors liken to "gates" in parts of the brain fail to slam shut as they should when the sufferer needs to calm down.

Ritalin works by increasing the ability of those gates to slam shut.

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Sandra Levy's avatar

They won’t be reporting on that issue until we make it illegal for pharma to advertise. Basic corruption.

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Laurie White's avatar

Absolutely true.

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ResistWeMuch's avatar

right on. the media and politicians have been protecting pharmakeia for a long time. its the fucking drugs. millions of people have firearms and they dont go out on shotting sprees. the autopsies of shooters are always covered up ot never even conducted because of the drugs.

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Torpedo 8's avatar

I have written on this extensively for years, going back to Columbine. Harris was on Luvox, whose side effects include dissociation and akathisia. It was originally believed that Harris and Klebold committed suicide when they realized they were trapped in the school's library, but it was actually Harris who killed Klebold, then took his own life.

Thousands of murders are attributed to this family of drugs. England bans their use for anyone under the age of 21. After HIPPA kicked in, no one reports what Adam Lanza or any of the other drug zombies were on, but you can assume it was from this family of drugs.

Better living through chemistry.

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Laurie White's avatar

I am not medically trained, but I am the widow of a wonderful man who took different anti-epileptic medicines over the years for his partial epilepsy. Several of these made him paranoid. One made him suicidal. When those particular drugs were discontinued, he returned to himself. I keep wondering how long this neurological devastation because of pharmaceuticals will go on. Illegal drugs can also cause paranoia and schizoid breaks. Why is the Left so invested in their gun control narrative that they give only glancing notice to the role of drug-induced mental illness in these mass shootings? Why do many on the Left continue to argue for "housing first" and "harm reduction" when it's clear that the mentally ill and drug addicted should receive treatment in long-term residential facilities where drugs of all kinds can either be monitored for efficacy or banned. Families and jails are now the caretakers for the severely--sometimes dangerously--mentally ill and/or addicted.

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Torpedo 8's avatar

"Advocates" for the mentally ill crippled our institutional solutions for the the problem back in the '80s. Now it's near impossible to get an unstable individual committed because they have to have buy-in. There's no committing them against their will.

My sister-in-law's schizophrenic and we were unable to do anything with her until she got into it with the cops. Needless to say, these types of "solutions" can get someone killed. How many seriously mentally ill people, like the Annuciation shooter, are wandering around at this moment simply because they haven't killed someone yet? What's it going to take?

Clearly it's madness that some of the very drugs used to treat depression in this country state on the box a very real possibility of suicidal/homicidal ideation. It's like treating an alcoholic with Everclear.

The media has its biases and this incident lays some of them bare. We're not allowed to honestly address gender dysphoria or any other psychosis for fear of upsetting the subject. The Left will push housing (does nothing), and "harm reduction" (polypharmacy). I cringe when I hear the talking heads say the shooters needed medical intervention because that only means on thing: more pills. Like that's solved anything yet.

And anti-Catholic bigotry is probably the most acceptable bigotry in the country as far as the media's concerned. They can't bring themselves to say shooting through a church window during a morning kids' Mass is anti-Catholic. They wouldn't say shit with a mouthful, apparently.

Tim Walz was given a chance a few years ago to extend state security to private schools. He did nothing. However, he fretted over the trans community like they were newborns. He was sure to protect them.

But who's protecting us?

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madaboutmd's avatar

Whoa.....never knew that Harris killed Klebold, then himself!

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Torpedo 8's avatar

Did you notice, we never heard much about the pair after the shooting? Or their parents. Where in God's name were the parents?

Harris' dad took a call from the gun shop. The owner said "Your silencers came in." Harris' dad says "I didn't order any silencers." and hangs up. If it were you, don't you think you'd ask your kid what's up with that? But nothing.

Dissociation is where mentally you can't separate reality from fantasy. The boys had a programmers kit to build battlezones in Doom (remember Doom?). They recreated their high school in the game and, from there, they plotted how they'd approach the school, which classrooms they'd go to, etc. Their plan was to demand a plane and then fly it into a building for the finale.

This was long before 9/11. Evil has an imagination most of us can't comprehend.

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madaboutmd's avatar

So crazy. And look how little we've learned from Columbine--from the murderous thugs in their black coats.

Our politicians via the media are shit which is all too often why we can't get to solutions. It's disgusting.

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Donna Kole's avatar

Me either! Makes sense though. Another cover up.

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Jonesy's avatar

Excellent essay, thank you for linking us to it.

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Ann Robinson's avatar

Yet another complicating factor (as though we needed more) is the significant number of drug-resistant patients.

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42mEdited

What really gets overlooked is some people are simply broken. In previous societies, we banished or killed such broken people, because they are toxic to society. This is not a "fixable" thing. Some people aren't meant for the living. Our society is way too death-phobic. Life and Death. Those who don't want to be alive shouldn't be coerced to live.

Pscyhiatry is a scam, it's a pseudoscience.

None of this bullshit is fixable.

We need to get away from the "fix it" model.

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Can you imagine SSRI’s plus Estrogen, plus pot, plus maybe a little anti anxiety and/or ADHD meds and then top it off with Pabst Blue Ribbon. Who is the medical professional prescribing this? What are the mental health records, what was the treatment plan. It is a public safety and human rights too if you ask me.

About 20 years ago my aunt was on so many drugs she could barely function. The “doc” or as I like to say Quack who gave her these (including Methadone- cuz every elderly lady needs that). eventually lost his license.

That video.

Completely demonic - wth is going on?

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Rob's avatar

That’s the most relevant question, and no mainstream media outlet will ask it. All of the news is in the negative spaces.

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Danno's avatar

Well, since the perpetrator was in the process of a gender change, that would be sex hormones, which are proven to alter behavior. The state-run media does backflips to avoid that inconvenient fact, however.

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Thomas's avatar

There is no evidence of this.

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nedweenie's avatar

There is some (and mounting) evidence that trans women who take estrogen for years are at risk for dementia. And for strokes. And cancer.

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Val's avatar

Hormones?

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Don Reed's avatar

08/28/25: NYT-Pravda Uppers. ABC-TV-Pravda Quaaludes. NBC-TV-Pravda Poppers.

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Boogie's avatar

Want some?

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Ralph's avatar

Ovary-tine.

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HBI's avatar

Thanks for wasting a minute of my day by failing to draw any kind of sane link to the thrust of that article. Blocked.

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DMC's avatar

what they werent taking might be a shorter list

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Tomas Pajaros's avatar

left wing extremist commits horrifying murder

checks all the boxes:

--rabidly anti Trump, wants to kill him

--rabidly anti Semite, wants to kill Jews

--LBGTQUVWXYZ supporter

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but we're not supposed to draw any conclusions

hmm

remembering that poll in April that showed over 1/2 of "liberals" favoring violence....

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jim's avatar

Trannys keep slaughtering innocent Christian children, yet right wing extremists are supposedly the biggest threat Americans face. If a right wing extremist ever decides to go slaughter everyone at one of those mutilation factories, you can bet every headline will make sure you know it was a right wing extremist with ties to Donald Trump that committed the targeted hate crime. There’s no reason to bother with these fake journalists any longer. Unless you’re looking for material for a stand up act.

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KissesandNoise's avatar

The whole "right-wing extremists are the greatest threat facing our country" thing was so ludicrous and laughable I thought no one would ever take that brand of Democrat seriously ever again. I was wrong.

I have a great friend that's a Democrat that has slowly gone Leftist (seems to be drifting back toward the middle now) not by choice, but because he didn't realize CNN, MSNBC, NYT, everything was poisoning his brain. He thought that was the news.

Anyway, he started buying guns. He has an amazing collection of great guns. The rabbit hole he went down learning about guns and becoming an enthusiast rivals any right-wing country boy I've ever known. The reason he stocked up? After the 2016 election he was convinced white nationalists would be kicking in his doors (he's white). I said, "if anyone is kicking in your doors or climbing in your windows, it ain't going to be a white nationalist."

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Laurie White's avatar

Matt and Walter's satirical description of the NYT as a "government in exile" has opened my eyes. All my friends who quote "The Times" are also people who believe everything that is wrong is because of Trump and the "terrible times" his election has inflicted on "our democracy".

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Progressives are the left and it is progressives who embrace crime and violence as legitimate career choices. It pays well, and you don't have to do much more than show up when the bat (shite crazy) signal is projected into the sky.

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Danno's avatar

With the USAID money all but cut off, I doubt their stupid protests will be attracting significant numbers any more.

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richardw's avatar

The chief of police in mpls is named O’Hara. Chief O’Hara may have put out the bat signal after consulting commissioner Gordon but who knows. Batman can fight joker, riddler, and king Tut but he cannot stop this kind of violence.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Especially when he is no longer trying to.

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anonmom's avatar

This person was not a left-wing extremist. He references a popular right-wing, pro-gun podcaster and says he should be president. His video is a mosaic of shooters' names, racist language and Neo-nazi references. There was no coherent philosophy in any of it. Don't politicize what happened.

Update: It appears his dad worked for Esri for 30 years. Huge intel contractor that works with DoD, CIA, Lockheed, etc. This might explain why he was using Russian, which always struck me as odd. Also might give some insight into his mindset.

Profile on Linked In, Flash Intel, Scrubbed from Dun and Bradstreet

https://www.esri.com/en-us/about/events/defense-intelligence-summit/agenda?date=2025-07-15

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gortroe's avatar

Yes, he may have had an incoherent point of view, but the NYT chose to only print elements that carried their leftist narrative, e.g., not clarifying that Trump wasn't just "mentioned", but the exhortation was to kill him. Also, not to list the number of attacks on Christian churches and schools was blatant bigotry. Catholic Voice has reported that in the past few years, these attacks have numbered in the hundreds. Both this attack and the MSM reportage of it are hate crimes.

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anonmom's avatar

I agree the reporting is disturbingly skewed. I'm not okay with that. The NYT should have mentioned what you point out. But to say he was a left-wing extremist doesn't fit who this person seemed to be. If anything, the lack of coherence and any clear motive seems like a sign of BPD - but that's an amateur take.

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Hank Stillwell's avatar

Wow. “Readers, these are the facts, but you are not reach this conclusion”. I don’t know what the Times is doing here, but it certainly isn’t journalism.

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Bond guy's avatar

Ha, they stopped doing journalism a very long time ago

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ska.one's avatar

Unlike every other topic, where the headline is "Giant Douche Said This; Here's What You Need to Know" about it.

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Phil R's avatar

What would the NYT and the rest of the left wing media coverage look like if a guy wearing a MAGA hat and an NRA coat went into a gay bar and shot it up? Would they be promoting the "let's not jump to conclusions" narrative. Would they be trying to prevent any backlash on conservatives? It makes me wonder if they are all literally Insane?

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

they're not insane, just liars and parasites.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

They are all three.......

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SimulationCommander's avatar

Imagine if that guy had been at 1/6.

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That TERF Owl's avatar

There was one J6. "Jessica" Watkins. He was let off in Trump's blanket pardon of J6ers. I think he was responsible for amassing weapons outside the Capitol that day, but I don't think he actually had any inside (unless I'm mistaken). (I got into a back and forth with him on X once and I think he was remorseful. I remember he didn't like how he looked in photos from that day... LOL.)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oath-keepers-jessica-watkins-sentenced-prison-january-6-2021-attack/

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gortroe's avatar

They are certainly not insane. They lack integrity, are sell-outs to the Democratic party, as their readership is 98% Democrats. Even at that, they are losing readership as the Internet eclipses them. They are desperate and will stoop as low as they have to in order to stay relevant. Shaming them will have no effect. Thank you, Matt, and others who call them out. This is how we the scandalized stay centered, and hopeful. Bravo, Matt!

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JimInNashville's avatar

Reading the reader comments sections after several such articles will give you an excellent idea of the types of readers the NY Times is hanging desperately onto. Mostly highly “committed” (or about to be) pseudo intellectual leftists, with a smattering of sensible “old style liberals” who get shouted down with massive sloganeering any time they challenge the editorial wisdom. These people will keep the NYT afloat for some time.

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rob's avatar

hell a a lone wolf jihadist shot up Pulse nightclub killing dozens and the story next day was Republican Ideas Kill.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

They are..........

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JB's avatar

These reactions make me wonder what would happen if, God forbid, we had another 9/11-type attack. Not that our response back then (war wise, Patriot Act-wise) was necessarily smart, but there was a true sense of unity as a country. Today I fear it would be another divisive flashpoint that we’d endlessly argue about.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

You'd be surprised but within days the left was warning about Islamophobia, some were claiming "we have to put it in context and many opposed even the incursion into Afghanistan claiming we should just arrest Bin Laden. To give one example Cheryl Crow made the brilliant statement that "If we dont want war we shouldn't have enemies." This prompted Andrew Slullivan's classic piece "The Deep Thought of Cheryl Crow." I remember it like it was yesterday. It drove me and many others like Glenn Reynolds and Roger Simon right out of the Democratic party.

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pundette's avatar

Yup, I remember it too, Freedom Lover. I saw the Towers burn with my own naked eyeballs from the Jersey palisades. This pathology of blaming the victim reached its highest point on October 7, 2023 when those who were raped until their pelvises were broken, burned alive, beheaded with shovels, and kidnapped and tortured were depicted within minutes as deserving of their fate. The Left looks upon the Face of Evil and then kisses it full on the mouth.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Who was the victim and who was the perpetrator in your scenario?

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pundette's avatar

Um... I'm amazed that I would be asked to clarify who the victims and who the perpetrators of the atrocities committed on October 7, 2023 were... and so I won't attempt to. If you can't figure that out, Cosmo T Kat, I cannot help you.

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Sera's avatar

According to educated sources who have been working on deeper intelligence than the daily newspaper, the consensus is that more Israelis were killed by the IDF, from tanks and helicopters, than were killed by Hamas. Their data was drawn from eyewitness, active soldiers, and the evidence of automobiles incinerated snd buried after the initial attack.

“Feb 09, 2025

Ex Israel Army Chief Admits Using Hannibal Directive Against Own Soldiers”

This is also consistent with the motivation of Hamas to take live hostages for the purpose of exchange. My sources are the Israeli Press and independent experts who have analyzed this data thoroughly.

There is no more room for lies in this tragic world.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

And here come the Nazis right on schedule.

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pundette's avatar

"...more Israelis were killed by the IDF, from tanks and helicopters, than were killed by Hamas..." Can you even hear yourself? Only the last line of your post rings true; you should commit it to memory.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

You shouldn't be since there conflicting reports of who did what and why. I wonder which version you embrace.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

You are one sick Nazi

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pundette's avatar

I'll pray for you.

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Leslie Deak's avatar

I watched the Pentagon burn from my living room window and I completely agree about the Left just sticking their metaphorical tongues deep down the gaping maw of evil.

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Tricia's avatar

I don't know why I am continually surprised that every time a tragedy occurs, the Democrat Party talking point is to stick up for the perpetrator.

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JB's avatar

I wouldn’t be surprised, I was there like you were. And I remember those voices too. But my memory is that they were a very small albeit vocal minority, and the majority of people thought they were idiots and treated them as such.

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Elisheva Levin's avatar

The same is true now. Most people I know have no sympathy for a murderer who shoots up a church.

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madaboutmd's avatar

Agree, but whose voices are loudest?

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reel life's avatar

"All we are saaaaayyyyying, is give peace a chance."

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Gathering Goateggs's avatar

I think you must be mis-remembering the title of the piece; it is apparently this, from Salon in January 2003:

https://www.salon.com/2003/01/15/crow_2/

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Freedom Lover's avatar

No I am not misremembering it. The original piece was written in his blog The Dish and was titled as I say it. I have never seen this and I dont read and have never read Salon. Its either another piece or a reprint of his blog piece with a different title.

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Anne McKinney's avatar

Couldn't find it ... but AI had a perspective: "

The search phrase "Sullivan The Deep Thought of Cheryl Crow" appears to be a typo for Sheryl Crow, a well-known American singer-songwriter. A specific work or concept by this name does not exist. However, the phrase is likely a reference to her introspective lyrics and candid commentary on personal experiences and social issues. . . In a 2024 interview with The Guardian, Crow reflected on the best value she could teach her children. She responded that she wants to help them reconnect with their innate sense of empathy, which she feels people learn to "desensitize" themselves from over time. . ."

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Freedom Lover's avatar

AI is completely wrong. The essay was a condemnation of the absurd anti American left using Crow's statement as an example. It was written in his Blog back in the good old days of the original Blogosphere so I doubt it's even available online any longer. Its 24 years old.

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Anne McKinney's avatar

Portends a lot of what is to come ... and overcome in search of veracity in journalism!!

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webstersmill's avatar

Here is Andrew Sullivan’s essay on Sheryl Crow, on SALON: https://www.salon.com/2003/01/15/crow_2/

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Anne McKinney's avatar

Many thanks!!!

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Freedom Lover's avatar

To be fair some on the left waited until October 8 to blame the Jews for their own slaughter.

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Mike R.'s avatar

Crisis to crisis no solutions forthcoming. This shooting/shooter event is yet another reflection of the mal pathology poisoning the American psyche--American life --and American discourse. The MSM distortion of American life and healthy human reality is exactly why We the People are all in on subscription journalism. Again corny me: Truth is light. A healthy Republic cannot exist inside a lie. The children in the church and the child with the gun were all OUR children. The lie is an industrial for profit enterprise and this tragedy is the lie made manifest.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

There was more unity than we had prior to 9/11 where the Democrats cut Bush up every single day as having stolen the election. But it really didn't last that long. A few months maybe.

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JB's avatar

For sure. But at least we had a few months and some unity that would happened was awful and we needed to punish those who did it and make sure it could never happen again. Then it all went down the toilet.

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gortroe's avatar

The unity frightened the Globalists/Democrats. So, they came up with Identity Politics. Country divided. Problem solved.

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bestuvall's avatar

yup. all unified behind the patriot act. right on schedule...

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JD Free's avatar

Can't find the reference anymore, but a young woman wrote a piece years later about how she was studying abroad in Paris on 9/11 and had a left-wing anti-American friend group, but when the planes hit she was horrified. Then her friends called to invite her to a party to celebrate the attack, and she realized just how radical they were.

The Left hasn't changed. The Left has been what it is for hundreds of years. What changed is social media and smartphones. Now groups like those 9/11-celebraters have a lot more influence, which has created more of them, and they aren't afraid to broadcast who they are to any audience.

In the 2002 election cycle, Democrat candidates fell over themselves to campaign as being friends with GWB. They ran ads with videos of themselves hugging GWB. The vibe was that you had to transcend partisanship, and the more you did that the more you deserved votes. It's inconceivable that such "unity wins elections" messaging would emerge today, no matter the catastrophe that preceded it. I blame the increased strength of internet bubbles for that.

But a change in the power of these bubbles is not the same as saying they didn't exist 25 years ago.

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ResistWeMuch's avatar

if we ever get rid of the deep states FISA 702 system and their illegal mass surveillance, they will false flag another 9/11 and blame us.

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Danno's avatar

Ugh, that brought us the stupid Patriot Act. We are now on notice that no catastrophe or emergency, no matter how real or urgent it seems, is important enough to make us give up our individual rights, even "temporarily".

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Freedom Lover's avatar

That's an entirely different conversation.

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Simon's avatar

This happened, the San Bernardino attack. President Obama immediately went on TV to scold Americans about our Islamophobia.

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Annette Huenke's avatar

What is the value of "a true sense of unity as a country" when it is the emotional response to a highly suspicious event that results in the illegal attack on another nation on the other side of the globe, and the deaths of millions of innocent people? It could be argued that unity only has value when it is based on truth and justice.

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Freedom Lover's avatar

Yes that's what the left sounded like after 9/11. Thanks for providing an example.

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gortroe's avatar

I remember when you couldn't find a flag on sale after 9/11, they were so popular. Now, people are afraid to hang them outside their home.

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Jack Gallagher's avatar

Norm MacDonald was more than a little prescient. https://x.com/normmacdonald/status/809637479674281984?lang=en

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Marilyn's avatar

The governor of California blamed the republicans even though Minnesota is run by a democratic governor and democratic mayor and there were 3 attacks in California this week with one attack killing 5 people.

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Art's avatar

Also Mayor Frey admonished the public on X about the futility of “thoughts and prayers” since that’s what the children were doing when murdered. That’s an impressive level of cynicism. And they wonder why voter registration in all thirty states that track party affiliation show a decline for team blue.

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Tom Burns's avatar

I hope that Matt and Walter cover the evil clown Psaki's reaction, even worse than the Minneapolis soy boy Mayor's, where she produced tears while raging at those devout people who would dare pray for the dead in this horrible case. Calling her a she-demon is too kind to demons.

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DarkSkyBest's avatar

She really makes me think she would be comfortable watching the boxcars full of the proper element roll by.

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gortroe's avatar

She is a bigot. It's allowed when it's about Christians. Especially Catholics.

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rob's avatar
11hEdited

Imagine if someone made fun of the black parishioners Dylan Roof killed.

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gortroe's avatar

He insulted everyone who holds their belief in prayer sacred. Isn't that what bigots do?

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Brian DeLeon's avatar

Newscum has become a petulant child, screaming and waving his hands around, trying to get someone to pay attention to him. Truly pathetic.

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bestuvall's avatar

a white guy trying to do the hand jive....

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madaboutmd's avatar

And there were four shooting incidences in MPS in 13 hours including another Catholic (Jesuit) school, Cristo Rey. You really have to dig to find that info. I was listening to Megyn Kelly yesterday and she had Liz Collins on her pod who did the documentary on Minneapolis after George Floyd. That's how I heard about it. She even said that the police scanners are blocked so journalists can't grab the information in real time! MPS and much of MN has just lost their marbles.

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Sea Sentry's avatar

Once again (COVID, Russiagate, Hunter Laptop and now the current tragedy) the NY Post trumps the NY Times. At least people in that city have one reliable newspaper.

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Kenneth Kirkman's avatar

This may be the most egregious example of “conservatives pounce” I’ve ever seen. And to express such mystified agnosticism of the shooter’s motive given the release of his or her manifesto on social media is pretty gross.

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Brian Adams's avatar

CNN was caught off guard, scrambling to decide how they were going to handle the trans issue.

Erin Burnett aired video of the Minneapolis police chief, speaking outdoors, referring to the killer as "he". This produced tight lips and a furrowed brow, poor Erin. They also showed the photo of him (the killer) w/ lipstick and pigtails. Within an hour Anderson Cooper stated they would not show photos of the killer.

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StikeDC's avatar

So they can bury it, like they did w/ the Nashville shooter & (both) Trump shooters -- and we still don't know who the Baltimore Key Bridge "ship pilot" was, or Rebecca Lobach's (DC helicopter pilot) social-media history... #MoveAlong #NothingToSeeHere

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bestuvall's avatar

plenty of the pigtailed demon on X

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Brian Peyton's avatar

You can learn more about the incident in 15 minutes on X than you will ever learn from mainstream media

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madaboutmd's avatar

ABSOLUTELY!

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Dave Osborne's avatar

Matt, you always bring the proper perspective to the topic at hand. Thank you.

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earthy.bookworm's avatar

Even Glenn Greenwald referred to the shooter as "they." Come on, Glenn.

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pundette's avatar

Yeah, earthy-bookworm, it's disheartening to see people cowed into submission on this issue. Insistence on preferred pronouns is just another symptom in the constellation of symptoms in this epidemic of gender dysphoria. This illness -- and it is an illness, not a civil right -- is about control, just like an eating disorder. "You can't make me eat." "You have to call me by the name I choose and the pronouns I choose." "I'm in charge here."

A couple of years ago, I tested a 12-year-old girl for a language delay/disorder, perhaps autism, whose mother informed us that her daughter went by "they/them." It was evident who held the power in the relationship. I was indifferent to this demand; I didn't have a dog in the fight. If she wanted my report to refer to her as "they/them," it was no skin off my nose.

I happen to wear my wristwatch with the dial on the inside of my wrist, rather than the outside. The young lady I was testing scowled at my watch and asked, "Why do you wear your watch like that?" I explained that I simply find it easier to look at my watch face with my palm open toward me, without having to turn my forearm and elbow over to look at the outside of my wrist.

"Well, I don't like it," she said rather stridently. It was clear that she wanted and fully expected me to alter my personal behavior to suit her. "Well, I'm not going to change it for you," I replied. She huffed and pouted a little, but then we returned to the task at hand. But this incident gave me a bit of insight into what living with her must be like at home, and why mom looked so beaten down.

It's not an identity, it's a disorder. And we're doing these people no favors by indulging their delusions. Just look what we're doing with the so-called "Furries." Honestly, are there no adults left in the room to say, "Enough with this nonsense already."

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Lisa's avatar

I have a friend who teaches at a very well known and prestigious prep school. Astoundingly, the teachers are supposed to respect furries. WTF!

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bestuvall's avatar

I think furries should be fed “furry” food like Pedigree and Purina or if they are cats. some nice raw liver.. hmm dogs like raw meat too.. and garbage.. and of course made to walk on all fours and use a litter box. or made to pee outside. even in winter and rain..many dogs wear “pinch” collars. thye must no wear clothes and must sniff the b utts or even lick the butts of others furries of the same species.. cat furries must kill and eat rats and birds.. dog furries must kill cat furries. or at least chase them up trees... and most importantly. furries must be neutered at an early age so they do not cause “overpopulation"

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Mr. Bob's avatar

All I'm saying is, if furries want to be treated like animals, we should be allowed to hunt them for sport.

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

They are probably already working on the neutering, thank God!

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gortroe's avatar

Where is the outrage in the psychology/social work profession? Have they learned nothing from the eating disorder scourge? Or, do they, too, lack the courage or ethical conviction to come forward to warn the public about this latest transhumanist attack on ...yes, humanity.

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

Psychology and social work have been captured by the woke cult. Social work has been that way for a long time, politically correct, controlling females for the most part. Psychology got there more recently. And yes, they lack the common sense, discernment and ethical conviction to do anything besides be among the most active membership of the woke cult.

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JimInNashville's avatar

Excellent point. The Daily Mail blocked me when I posted a similar comment although several others got through. They lost me as a potential paid subscriber.

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steven t koenig's avatar

Glenn is creepy and disingenuous. I don't care what he has to say about anything

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MG's avatar

He jumped the shark on Oct 7.

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bestuvall's avatar

no kidding he is terrible

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Susie's avatar

Maybe "they" is appropriate for a very confused human with dual personality disorder.

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gortroe's avatar

The Enlgish monarchy refers to themselves as "We", as in "We are not amused". Now, there's some entitlement for ya!

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Dave Slate's avatar

One of the reasons for the "We" may be that in British English collective nouns take plural verbs more often than in American English, e.g. "The government are meeting to discuss imposing stricter regulations on social media".

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An independent observer's avatar

No, it is the sick person who has a disorder, not us. We do not have to go along with their sick fantasies. Why should we indulge and appease these lost souls? This is what the left has been doing and what broke the society, and brought many young people into a delusional dysfunctional state, and made many even physically disfigured for life. I absolutely refuse to go along with this insanity.

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Last One's avatar

Greenwald also said: "not that such labels matter".

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Octavia Moya's avatar

"Mentally ill tranny (redundant, yes) commits another act of politically motivated terrorism against a religious institution and its congregants" is far too impolite. Heck, if this was true, people may start looking at trannies like they're a danger to themselves and others, and respond accordingly.

Of course, respond accordingly people will, regardless of how reality is repackaged for their consumption. I've never observed bald faced lies of having the effect of placating those being lied to.

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Marlene Barbera's avatar

Trans Shooters

Using a simple binomial model (n ≈ 300 shooters since 2018, trans share p ≈ 0.006):

• Expected trans/gender-fluid shooters: ~1.8

• If actual is 6 → tail probability ~1.0% (P≥6 = 1.013e-02)

• If actual is 10 → ~0.0018% (P≥10 = 1.751e-05)

• If actual is 12 → ~0.000039% (P≥12 = 3.936e-07)

So at 10–12 cases, that’s orders of magnitude above chance given the population share.

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📊 Mass Shooting Statistics (2018–2025)

• Total mass shooters (approx.): ~300

• Trans/gender-fluid share of U.S. population: ~0.6%

• Expected number of trans shooters (if proportional): ~1.8

🔎 Actual vs. Expected

• If actual = 6

• Expected = 1.8

• Over-representation = 3.3× higher than expected

• Probability of ≥6 just by chance: ~1% (1 in 100)

• If actual = 10

• Expected = 1.8

• Over-representation = 5.6× higher than expected

• Probability of ≥10 just by chance: ~0.0018% (1 in 55,000)

• If actual = 12

• Expected = 1.8

• Over-representation = 6.7× higher than expected

• Probability of ≥12 just by chance: ~0.000039% (1 in 2.5 million)

✅ Plain Conclusion

• With 10–12 actual cases, the odds of that happening “just by chance” are vanishingly small.

• This is not random noise — it’s a real and extraordinary overrepresentation of trans/gender-fluid individuals in mass shootings compared to their population size.

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Sandra Pinches's avatar

Trans identified males are reportedly very overrepresented in the incarcerated population of sex offenders in the U.S.

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Jim M's avatar

I THINK you're trying to say something important on this post, Marlene, but there's a hella lot of people who've never went near a Stats course.

Could you translate this into plain English that someone w/an 8th grade education could understand?

For example, what IS the generally accepted %age of the general population that 'is' tranny? And what is the source of that figure; can it be trusted? How could we arrive at a solid number?

You've shown some good work, but I don't have any context to understand it within.

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Marlene Barbera's avatar

Sure Jim,

1. How many people identify as transgender?

The best surveys (like the CDC’s Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System and UCLA’s Williams Institute studies) put the U.S. share around 0.6% of the population. That means about 6 in every 1,000 people. The number isn’t exact—it depends on how you ask the question—but 0.5–0.7% is a solid, generally accepted range.

2. What we’d expect if mass shooters matched the general population.

If there have been about 300 mass shooters since 2018, and if transgender people made up shootings at the same rate as their share of the population (0.6%), then you’d expect only about 2 shooters total to be transgender.

3. What we actually see.

Reports (depending how you classify) suggest 6 to 12 transgender or gender-fluid shooters in that period. That’s way above the expected number of 2.

• If it’s 6, that’s about 3 times higher than expected.

• If it’s 10–12, that’s 5–7 times higher.

4. Why this matters statistically.

If shootings were truly random, the chance of seeing 10–12 transgender shooters out of 300 is astronomically low—like the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads 20 times in a row. In other words: this isn’t “just chance.”

✅ Plain Conclusion:

Transgender people make up less than 1% of Americans but possibly 2–4% of recent mass shooters. That’s a huge over-representation. Whether the number is 6, 10, or 12, the odds of it happening by chance are so tiny that it points to something real going on.

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Jim M's avatar

Oh wow, thanks for this, I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to clarify.

Now... as far as your analysis is concerned...

WHOAAA!

This puts everything into an entirely new light for me; I agree that 'there's something goin' on'. Just what that is, I don't know. All I would come up with would be theories and opinions. However...

THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON.

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Becky Scott's avatar

I think the number is 5.

9/20/18- MD- Moseley

5/7/19- CO- McKinney

11.19/22- CO- Aldrich

3/27/23- TN- Hale

8/27/25- MN- Westman

I also think that we need to work on the definition of “mass shooting” before examining this proportionality…most definitions are based on number of people shot and they do not exclude gang or domestic violence.

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Enticing Clay's avatar

The numbers are way to small to draw conclusions, and this text...

"Reports (depending how you classify) suggest 6 to 12 transgender or gender-fluid shooters in that period."

...is courageously shameful science wise.

These numbers are so small you should be listing the names of everyone along with links to your evidence.

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To be clear, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anything except that your science so far is just awful.

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Cowgirlcontrarian's avatar

Something indeed is going on. The mayor was first of all commiserating with the shooter’s group (trans community) instead of the dead and traumatized

children. Am I missing something ? Is there an anti- children thing going on that I missed? Is it about Christians having children ? I am a bit confused .

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Poppy's avatar

Root cause is likely the SSRI drugs that says on the FDA warning labels include suicide and mass murder ideation….. time for these drugs to be an automatic “ disqualification” to own a gun or operate heavy machinery for that matter.

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StikeDC's avatar

Try saying tranny on "Free Speech X" -- won't go well.

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Jim M's avatar

Are you on X at all? I use 'tranny' all the time.

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bestuvall's avatar

yup. and the only place that I know of where you can watch the crazy demon that did this..

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John Wygertz's avatar

I'm shocked, shocked at media bias....

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Oh, it gets better. The local Fox outlet (KMSP) cut away from its coverage of a vigil at the school to show a 15 minute democratic/socialist diatribe Media not biased at all

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Lekimball's avatar

Not to mention he said he regretted transitioning. I have personal experience that this is mental illness. The suicide rate is drastically high even after transitioning. Normalizing it is not the answer here. Being gay is not the same thing at all. But the person I know (and have known for 40 years) is mentally ill. Instead of attributing this behavior to it, they try to say being trapped in a man's body is responsible for all the crazy shit he has done. This does not mean any adult should not be able to identify or dress as the Easter bunny if they want to. Normalizing it for our children and surgery and hormones are a completely different story. Leftists want us to accept that this is just a normal choice and they are confusing our children. His mother probably added to this poor guy's problems and it's a shame. Then the left lies about how the right wants to erase trans people or mentally ill people. That is adding to violence and there is no low they won't stoop to for power. This is going to make that harder for them, but they never use any sense at all.

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gortroe's avatar

Where is his father?

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madaboutmd's avatar

He's in the household. Mother has become infamous because she signed the name change. There's a picture of the dad's bday post to him in the rainbow colors.

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Lekimball's avatar

Right. Nobody mentions him at all and she has apparently lawyered up. They have only been able to talk to neighbors and friends.

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madaboutmd's avatar

"His mother probably added to this poor guy's problems and it's a shame."

His mother is 100% responsible for aiding and abetting his "gender dysphoric" delusions. He was 17 when they made the appointment to change his name to a female moniker. He had been catechized (in elementary school) for at least 8 years at this Catholic school. She was an employee of the same church/school, retiring four years ago. And STILL she signed off on his name change to a female name. She is described as Catholic and I can tell you with 100% certainty that she was not in full communion with the Church OR Christianity by deciding to abet the delusion that somehow God was wrong when he gave her a son and 17 years later that son said, uh no, I'm really a girl" and she says, "ok."

Her faith cannot be set aside in this scenario. The family had to be completely deluded to throw away their faith to choose this path vs getting their son the real help he needed. And he's no longer a "poor guy" when everyone around him looks the other way while he spirals into more crazy.

I had a brother who died by his own hands. He was 18 (three weeks from HS graduation). Males in general (and I have 6 brothers) are incredibly vulnerable to mental illness at this age. Her son was no different except he was aided in his delusion to continue on this disastrous path. My parents had no idea back in 1986 that Paul was going through something and would have sought help for him had they known.

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Lekimball's avatar

Well, I daresay you are at least partially right. I feel a bit sorry for his mother, too, though, because she has also been intimidated by this narrative--if you were told your son would die if you didn't let him transition, are you 100% sure you'd oppose it? I am pretty sure I would have, but in Canada they have jailed fathers who opposed this kind of crap, even for not using their child's "preferred" pronouns or names.

I know he was troubled and she didn't make good decisions, (what does the father say about all this) but I also don't like to sit in judgment quite in that way. It's enough she made bad decisions and I don't want to judge her spirituality. That's for God to do. This culture created him AND her no doubt.

But I do agree with you without going quite there, that worshipping the state rather than God probably accounts for a lot of what ails us. I went to Oral University,, but I tend to see spirituality a bit like Jordan Peterson--nobody has all the answers. There have been some bad things done in the name of religion, too, but I'll take my chances with people who worship something bigger than themselves. :) The whole thing is very sad.

And I will say that faith does figure in this disaster. Perhaps we can't see what we are to learn from it all just y et...

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madaboutmd's avatar

No, absolutely not. I'm a devout Catholic and I would reassure my son that God made him perfectly. I would move our family from that insane city/state where the culture is corrupted by adult fantasies and delusions. I can assure you that Ascension would not have indoctrinated him but the greater MPS area did and his parents allowed it. Add'l info is already coming out about him bouncing from high school to high school. That's when you make a massive move to get your son to a rural area, home school, take away phones/social media, and touch grass. There are many, many resources to help parents of children to find potential solutions. But, as far as we know, they didn't do that.

Of course God will judge their ultimate fate but I find it wholly appropriate to judge the Catholic who says God is wrong.

Aside: My college roommate's adopted daughter identified as a boy 7th-the beginning of 12th grade. My friend indulged pronouns and name changes and a binder. Her father did not. My friend once said "what if God did make a mistake" and of course I assured her that He never does. How did this whole thing get started you might ask? Playing games on-line with strangers. One such stranger introduced the idea. My friend should have removed ALL screens at the least and seriously considered moving. The psychs were of no help. Perhaps her daughter, who had an open relationship with her bio mom, thought that if she was a boy, her bio mom would have wanted to keep her. Why? Because the bio mom went on to have 3 sons. But no psychs would even attempt to try to get to the root of the problem. She is now a very happy, content college student who will likely regret those years but, thanks be to God, she never had any irreversible / life altering changes.

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Lekimball's avatar

Hm, again, I think I'd do what you say you would do. But I do blame the intimidating nature of these liberals. Too. And they are to blame for his actions to a large degree as well. As well as the parents. And you make a pretty good case for that in this post. It's a very sad thing.

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madaboutmd's avatar

I’ll just say that where my friend lives is very similar to MPS. Also will add that I have a son who is the exact age of this very evil, mentally ill man who took the innocence of so many children and the life of two.

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