The hack of the DNC emails is always brought up because it fit the narrative they wanted to cement. But the attempted hack of the RNC emails (the targets were simply not as dumb as John Podesta at DNC), and the fact that they *successfully* hacked Colin Powell's emails and purposefully released negative things he said about Donald Trump --- all of that gets memory holed for not fitting the narrative they wanted to stick in 2017 and later.
Update - Watching Matt on Megyn Kelly - he's killing it! Update II - Megyn's Hunter rant discussion the Emily Jashinsky is really sharp - Emily pointed out that Hunter is doing what Trump did when he came down the escalator - trashing the entire GOP - purely authentic - who cares if Hunter's right (and in part he is). Emily pointed out that Hunter is a ratings goldmine-riveting (although I would have compared him to Charlie Sheen winning!)
Emily suggested Megyn hire Hunter for his own podcast called: What The Fuck! Genius, no? Who wouldn't watch?
The definitive answer is that there's no evidence of a hack - the entire case is built on cui bono.
People forget two facts. In the summer of 2015, Obama left the DNC without funds, HRC offered her cash in return for control of the distribution to candidates, effectively seizing control of the primary. Many Democrats hated HRC.
In August of 2015, Obama and HRC wanted to freeze VP Biden out, and neutralize a surging Bernie Sanders. You can find the timeline easily by searching the NYT articles from that time. "HRC wins the Invisible Primary"
Rage against the establishment over Too Big To Fail and the ACA funneled into two torrents - Bernie and then Trump, but only much later. Bernie was HRC's main enemy, and HRC's original Putin puppet. Who hacked HRC's emails?
Or that it was hacked. They have never shown evidence. The claim is that the data transmission speeds were too fast for an internet hack, but consistent with download to a thumb drive. 'Crowdstrike’s Shawn Henry who had the DNC hard drive said in his deposition that there was no evidence Russia hacked the emails.' Thanks Susan Johnston for the citation.
If this is correct (that the FBI has Rich's computer), well then who is in charge of the FBI now & why have the contents of that computer not been released? Not doubting your statement, just wondering why those currently in charge have not followed up on that. Seems to me that if Rich's computer has evidence that he was the source of the leak, this would really blow things wide open.
Paul Harper, you old conspiracy theorist you. Until John Brennan confirms, we cannot let our minds go there. Btw, I watched Jack Ruby shoot Oswald on live TV. So I know that we can't delve into conspiracies. 2+2=5
The story I believe is that Seth Rich (the DNC anlayst later found murdered in Washington DC under not-at-all-suspicious circumstances) downloaded the emails, at least the ones from Hillary that were in the DNC's server, and gave them to Wikileaks, who then published some of them.
Over complication, confusion and obfuscation is the method being employed by the Dems. Great defense really when you don't have a picture of the butler putting the poison in the glass. From a public perspective Russiagate was a too complex by half campaign of accusations backed by "facts" from people who they trusted. That most of it but probably not all of it was based on complete BS doesn't matter. Hillary and the Dems should have been as strategic in how they managed the 2016 campaign. They would have won.
You can not believe the evidence, but there is certainly evidence. Dutch Intelligence claimed to have hacked in to Russian hacking ops centers due to trying to conclusively tie Russia to shooting down hundreds of their citizens on the Malaysian air flight. They claimed to have watched the DNC info being accessed. They later also informed DoD of a direct hack into DoD systems. This was all reported years ago by Dutch papers like die Volkskrant.
I find it hilarious that they accuse the Russians of trying to influence the election in favor of Trump by actually publishing DNC internal communications. Sounds like a self-indictment to me.
You have to wonder what she had on him, or threatened him with. His wisest move would have been to use the Convention platform to announce a third party candidacy, saying "I don't care if Trump wins, he agrees with half my agenda, which is more than you do, Secretary Clinton."
Maybe Assange knows? I remember reading that Assange implied that the emails were from the DNC and soon after, Bernie Bro Seth Rich, who worked at the DNC, was robbed/killed under mysterious circumstances. Stranger things have happened in dirty old DC. 🤔
Yeah that was very odd. That made me suspicious about Assange. Either Rich did leak, or Assange was blatantly attempting to throw a huge, false distraction out there.
He never did explain himself, why he put up reward money for finding Rich's killer...
If Assange wants to regain his credibility, he will explain that truthfully. Until he does, that's a huge black check on him.
Perhaps you're unaware of a core precept at Wikileaks: Never give up a source. Corollary: or a dead source, either! To do what you say would violate all of that.
Myeahhh....BUT...the point remains: Either Assange was blatantly perpetrating a hoax, or Rich was, indeed, the source of the leak. It has to be one or the other. I know of no journalistic principle of protecting sources beyond their graves (although I'm not an expert about this caveat).
All the evidence I have seen indicates that it was a random murder, and that Rich was NOT the source of the leak. If Assange wants to regain his credibility, he would be forthright about this. Of course, we don't know what sort of secret deal he may have made to secure his freedom, so....
But the point remains.
Another question that the Trump Administration could perhaps shine some sunlight on if they wanted to live up to their pledge of transparency, and themselves, regain the lost trust of the public.
He’s repeating lies. Crowdstrike’s Shawn Henry who had the DNC hard drive said in his deposition that there was no evidence Russia hacked the emails. I can’t stand these people.
Jeff Childers Covid & Coffee this AM is titled ‘Benedict Obama’
He linked to Trump yesterday in the Oval accusing Barack of treason, in live worldwide feed. The die is now cast. You can’t easily walk it back. So, does tha administration have the goods?
Scott Adams says we could be headed for a civil war over this, and if so, he’s okay with that. Because he asks, who wants to live in country where government can make up a hoax then try to imprison you over it and subvert an election? Whoever does that needs to be criminally punished. If not, the potential for it to be repeated grows stronger.
Russiagate is a small part of the much greater LIE that defines the "gaslight" which keeps We the People spinning from crisis to manufactured crisis. Are WE trying to convince ourselves that we're not crazy. That's what "gas lighters" do. Human moral reason washes off the back of malignant narcissism like water off a duck. While We the People are going WTF D.C./Brussels/Davos grifters--between lunch and dinner-- wheel barrow loot and tax
treasure into numbered accounts across the world and never miss a beat--or lose a dime. They spend more on lunch than the average American worker makes in a week. If there is a smoking gun it's the one that put a bullet in the American middle class and looted and destroyed the greatest economy in the world. As in the case of Hitler--there ain't enough retribution to square the books. Look at what the thugs have done/are doing to the rest of the worlds free peoples. I'm 101% for RACKET calling out the grift. Matt and Walter might save American journalism. But We the People have bigger problems. There is nothing bigger--or more important--than the American Republic-its Constitution and the free citizen. --Accepting that fact--against all arguments to the contrary-is the beginning of good mental health and recovery. Everything else is psyop.
Let’s also not forget the other big lie that won’t go away: that there is a difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. I can’t wait to see more “leftists” comments.
Obama and Brennan and Comey are no more leftists than Joe Manchin.
This was a case of the elite power establishment not liking the outcome of an election. So they tried to undo it. Any Republican or Democrat other than Trump or Bernie would have been just fine with Obama.
Yes Sir. Self-interested wealth and the creation of a debt bound economy at the expense of society at large-if you believe historians and economists who claim to know--destroyed Rome. 60 to seventy percent of American wealth--if you believe those who claim to know-- is controlled by ten percent of our population. So yes. Terms like Democrat/Republican or left/right and capitalist/communist--whatever they meant in the past--don't mean that now. The American Republic--may have always been/is now an island. World domination by a handful of surveillance spooks--billionaire opportunists and the undead scientific bean counter sterility of the managerial elite that serves the lunacy is already--if you believe the people who claim to know--building euthanasia centers--replacing populations and imprisoning citizens for thought crimes. The moral vacuum/evil--by those who claim to know--is the willingness of the 5 percent who've captured and distorted the world economy to destroy the world to maintain the strangle hold.
The LIE reveals the open contempt the liar holds for the victims of the LIE. Depression--confusion and despair are the intentional consequences of the LIE. It strips away the power of the individual and creates a false reality which the liar can manipulate at will. There is the Republic--the Constitution and the free citizen. WE tHE PEOPLE should /will continue to believe in and support the power of truth speakers--it's what we have left. But--if we believe those who claim to know--the chasm is wide and the forces at play against the free peoples of the world are strong. It is the person by person/citizen by citizen awakening--strengthening and return to our own communities and actionable love and support for those we love that will overcome the LIE.
No worries, Mike. It's always encouraging to find others who are able to see through all the distracting mist.
I'm up for one more shot at turning the ship. Something dramatic has to be done economically. And I think it can be done without wholesale sacking of the wealthy through taxes. (though if Zuckerberg can pledge to give away 99% of his money, we'll find better uses for it)
The amount of wealth that is about to be created by artificial intelligence will be as large as that created by globalization. Unfortunately, much of it will come from elimination of jobs. There is a way to ensure that wealth is more evenly distributed, unlike what happened the past 45 years.
We need a candidate who loves capitalism and loves working people, and loves seeing working people succeed in capitalism. That person hasn't emerged for 2028. It won't be from the "Republicans" or "Democrats," neither of which can seem to resist the temptation to mess with social issues. One side promises to get prayer back in schools and to prevent gay people from getting married. The other side promises to allow minors to elect extremely invasive gender surgeries.
We need a candidate who understands that society will figure that stuff out, like it always has. The focus needs to be on economic. That's the one thing James Carville ever called right. If someone doesn't emerge in the next 6-12 months, I may have to do it myself.
A truth/fact based national conversation grounded in economic reality--not figure heads and sensationalism. We're getting there. Matt Stoller/BIG is the only consistent voice I've found on economics-- and the machinery D.C. and otherwise--manipulating it. And BIG is for the most part completely over my head. I'm still attempting to build a workable understanding. Knowing something is wrong without being able to say why is the boat I most often find myself in. WE all see the consequences through our windshields every day--and the human damage is a horror. The general crippling of daily life touches all of us. Taibbi called it during the '08 crash--none of us understand the language and the game well enough to call it. And--there is a manufactured psyop that screams over the top of human moral reason to keep it that way. RACKET has up'ed the ante with more economic reports--but We the People need to deal ourselves into the game or the would be totalitarians are going to run the table.
One "plus" for us is the spotlight on the billionaire NGO/surveillance grift that uses tax treasure to create front groups that conceal political operatives that work against the Republic's best interest. The real damage --as in the DNC/Mayorkas illegals grift--is the "fuzzy" no mans land where cartel/criminal interests merge with spook land and the D.C. hog trough. People die. 2.5 percent inflation announced today doesn't address the 20 percent jump in less than a decade. I'm fortunate and grateful but pretense that the lives of others-- less so--doesn't affect my own helps no one.
A healthy national conversation and a rebirth of engaged citizenship is the place to start.
Susan Johnston is right. AND Bill Binney proved the emails were NOT hacked - He showed they could only have been downloaded to a portable drive by someone on the DNC premises . The proof is very technical but it is nevertheless proof. Matt is heroic but he needs to study and master this aspect. I hope Tulsi Gabbard will collate and present the case for a DNC leak of the emails to Wikileaks.
1) Henry said that he had no evidence that the data was actually "exfiltrated" from the DNC server - he said it was "set up" to be exfiltrated, but that they have no evidence it actually was.
He then went on to say that a potential hacker could have saved the data without leaving a record of "exfiltration" by for example taking screenshots. So, maybe someone went through the trouble of accessing the DNC server and setting up the exfiltration, but stopped and decided to take screenshots of 70gb of emails.
2) Henry testified that he has a "high degree of confidence" it was Russia bc "what we'd call the tactics and techniques were consistent with what we'd seen associated with the Russian state." That's it.
3) CrowdStrike never gave the FBI access to the physical DNC servers, despite repeated requests at multiple levels from Comey. How much info CrowdStrike shared with the FBI seems to be a matter of debate, but the fact that they (perhaps at the behest of the DNC) denied Comey's requests is not contested by anyone.
4) Shawn Henry was a deputy director at the FBI under Mueller. He started CrowdStrike with a Russian guy (Alperovitch) who hates Putin. CrowdStrike was hired to investigate this data breach by the same Perkins Coie lawyer - Michael Sussmann - who hired FusionGPS to produce the Steele Dossier. Christopher Steele testified in a UK court that Sussmann is the guy who floated the "Alfa Bank server theory" to him - the fiction that Alfa Bank had a secret server set up for back channel comms with Trump.
5) Julian Assange said he did not get the emails from the Russians. Truth be told, I've always wondered how Assange would know that, unless he meant to imply that he dealt in person with his source and verified their identity and ability to access the data. Which of course he very well may have..
At any rate, of the above, I know who I'm trusting, lol.
The screenshot story from Henry is so nonsensical. They had a tap on the network. They knew and recorded every bit that came in and out.
By definition if the emails left over the network, then they were exfiltrated over the network and Crowdstrike saw them leave over the network. Whether as text or screenshot or text-to-speech audio files or whatever other absurd convoluted method Henry wants to come up with.
They were either exfiltrated over the network or they weren't. And they weren't says Henry.
Which leaves local copying as by far the most likely option.
Not saying it wasn't Russia--they could have penetrated the cleaning crew.
Not saying it wasn't Seth Rich--Hell, Seth Rich could be a Russian Spy (When Seth Rich is seriously called a Russian spy, then we are very very close to the end of RussiaGate.)
Just saying that the most likely thing after Henry's testimony is local exfiltration.
I think probably because the FBI didn't really have grounds to force the issue. I think it's easier to see what I mean if you think of the DNC as a normal private business. If ABC123 Co. is the victim of a hacking crime, the FBI only knows about it in the first place if ABC123 tells them. Then if they say to the FBI, "hey don't sweat it, we are getting our servers privately analyzed - we'll have our guys send you the reports" - the FBI might just say "all right, if you want to do our work for us, that's fine, at least for now.. But we'll need to see the servers at some point, if you expect actual charges or a prosecution.."
So you do that dance for a while and then, once you have what you want from CrowdStrike, you tell the FBI to forget about it. And the FBI just swallows it bc, what else are they gonna do? They can't seize the servers without a warrant, and would a judge sign a warrant to seize property from the victim of a crime, especially a victim they know is going to challenge the warrant?
I think the DNC, all else equal, would've preferred zero FBI involvement, but their goal was to be able to say "this crime was investigated and we found who did it," and you can't credibly make that claim without at least superficially bringing in the FBI.
Right. No evidence Russia stole them, SH’s speculation about what *might* have happened notwithstanding. All kinds of things might have happened. I certainly wouldn’t trust Shawn Henry to give me an unbiased opinion since he was tapped by the DNC to do what the FBI should have done. The whole thing was ridiculous. Assange alluded to where he got them in an interview. Wasn’t Russia. Here’s Aaron Mate’s article on the Henry deposition.
"Everybody knows..."???? What a pathetic clown! Everything Isikoff said was a bald assertion without ANY facts to support it! Even Crowd strike, another Clinton stooge, had to admit under oath they found zero evidence ANYONE hacked the DNC let alone Putin aka Dr. Evil; nor is there ANY evidence Putin/Dr. Evil gave the "hacked emails" ( that weren't hacked!!, but were likely downloaded to a thumb drive says Veteran Intelligence Professionals For Sanity) to WikiLeaks, and on it goes. These people are fools and liars. And f'ing liars!
The VIPs analysis taking the amount of data exfiltrated and the time it took showed a required baud rate which didn’t exist so it had to be someone logging on with valid credentials and copying to thumb drives.
Fuck me......that was painful. Michael Isikoff is an insufferable lying sack of shit and Cuomo is so far out of his punt coverage on this he's not even in the godamned stadium.
Keep up the great work Matt......you're a national treasure.
Sorry they did that to you Matt, but not surprised they did it. Thanks for having the courage and strength to enter into this obviously stressful situation and fight the honest battle against the lies
They did the same bullshit with the Twitter Files stories....they KNOW they can just spin shit endlessly, obfuscate, dodge n weave and the Public will end so confused as to not give 2 shits. So depressing.
Matt, thank you for being a journalist with honor and integrity. I’m sure it feels like you are beating your head against a wall when talking to these media types, but at the end of the day, you will be a man who is admired by his readers, and more importantly, worthy of admiration by his kids.
They have no choice but to keep doubling down, even if the odds go to 1,000,000,000 to 1 against them. They can't and will not ever admit they've done anything wrong, regardless of the strength of the evidence. Lying liars gonna lie.
This is how addiction works. Most addicts refuse to change until they hit a bottom from which none of the old tricks can rescue them. Somewhere there's a twelve-step meeting for these unfortunates.
You know, my husband told me this long ago that the only thing some people understand is force. I didn't like that and thought it was over the top, because I wanted to believe there was good in all - everyone is someone's child, etc. But more and more, I see that it is true and that demons like this like to take compassion and weaponize it. I still struggle with it.
There's a slight chance that once the spillway opens that people who were overruled start to talk. That's the one thing that could build critical mass.
I fast forwarded Cuomo to get to Matt & Michael. The only thing of value Chris stated in his long overwrought intro was ‘let’s now turn to our guests who know a lot more about this than I do’
Michael Isikoff looked crazy in the interview. He comes across as a delusional partisan who believes his own propaganda. But you can see the formulation of the talking points they are going to spew and the narrative they are coalescing around.
Isikoff did look a bit odd, widening his eyes and rocking back and forth into the camera. Lots of ‘emotion’ wafting off Michael as a result. Matt, was calm, cool counterpoint dropping facts.
Mouthpiece of the intelligence community for a decade plus, planting whatever story they wanted to tell.
It reminds me that I don't even believe we know what happened during Watergate any more. "Deep Throat" was literally the Deputy Director of the FBI and was later found guilty of *ordering illegal break-ins* by FBI agents during exactly the time he was telling Woodward and Bernstein what to write about Nixon. Watching Issikoff be a megaphone for the deep state is awful - and how was the FBI telling reporters what to write in the 1970s any different?
You're dreaming if you think the GOP establishment wants to end pay for play and give up all the rest of the cash they've been stripping out of the public coffers. Trump has temporary control over part of the US government.
The majority of GOP and DEMS have been milking US taxpayers for decades and what they're doing right now is planning to ensure that nobody like Donald Trump ever ends up in control of the GOP again. Or, you can just trust the pols.
Totally agree. Of all that we don't know about this mess, the one thing I DO KNOW is that people from both parties collude together to push out boat-rockers. That has always been true, and will always be true.
Even Teddy Roosevelt wound up feeling the pointy end of that stick. Whoever tries to follow in Trump's footsteps doesn't have even half a chance against them.
You're fucking joking, right? Washington Examiner, Axios, WP, Guardian, etc, etc. Graham's on the record that he told McCain to turn over the Steele Dossier to the FBI.
You think the GOP establishment in 2016 wanted Donald Trump to beat HRC? What fucking planet are you on?
You’re on here with one breath railing against believing what politicians say, and with the next breath you want us to believe a pair of scoundrels,
Lindsay Swamplizard Graham & John CrashAnotherPlane McCain.
McCain’s opposition research was handed around and democrats got hold of it, but there wasn’t any dossier in it. That dossier was funded by Fat Hog Hillz via her attorneys at Perkins Coie. That is election fraud, because she hired a foreign national to engage in campaign activity. The Fat Hog was fined enormously by the FEC for her flagrant cheating.
McCain got hold of it later but he didn’t start it nor fund it.
"The DNC was fined $105,000 and the Clinton campaign was fined $8,000." Don't think that constitutes "fined enormously by the FEC"; Hillary probably steals more than that every day.
It’s ironic that you spent so much time in Russia as your situation in journalism is reminiscent of a Russian novel to me. A man seeking the truth while surrounded by corrupt liars at every turn. I hope you don’t end like a Russian character, usually destroyed, dead, or both.
I have talked to people in Russia about what it was like before the Soviet Union fell. If you look around our country and talk to people, we look a lot like what they have described.
I had an Rx to be filled. RiteAid kept saying it was on order. After two weeks, I went in. They said they had been sold. CVS bought the Rx's. After jumping through hoops online, I went to CVS. As I went through all the data again, I said (whined) to the clerk that I had lived around the world and always thought the US was an easier place to be a customer. And she said to me, "That's what we get for living in a dying empire." Things are falling apart around us. Then she said that Trump was making it worse. But wasn't sure Kamala would have made it better.
CVS is emblematic of something to be sure, with its toothpaste locked up to prevent theft and crazy-making pharmacy which now has a French-style lunch hour followed by a long line of prescription-starved sufferers.
I am a student of Eastern European history. Over the last 5 to 10 years I have come to recognize the American political and media landscape as being terrifyingly similar to modern Russia's. Over the last one to two years I have shifted/refined my analogy from modern Russia to Ukraine circa the Orange Revolution and Maidan. The shift/refinement is apropos because the Russian analogy is largely true, but too top-heavy, where the Ukraine analogy better reflects the tensions between the freedom-oriented peoples vs the political, economic, and media oligarchs combined with a hefty infusion of Russia-sourced money/influence/threats. It's called directed democracy, and it's how authoritarian states operate to give themselves the veneer of representation legitimacy.
Right down to a bumbling old fool of a president- the bushy- browed fella - Brezhnev. They say he was completely gone - just like our president, Joe Tater.
I learned Chris planned to argue against Tulsi’s report as “dangerous” and a “conflation”
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My shocked face is oh-so-shocked. 😐
Just finished up my deep dive into this, and if ANYBODY was "conflating" anything, it was Democrats with "hacking" and "interference". And for what it's worth, almost all of the "proof" used in the January 2017 report was publicly available for years.....so why was the "Putin is helping Trump" narrative missing until that December 9th meeting?
One example:
Putin most likely wanted his intelligence services to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012 and holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him, judging from press reporting. Given this, we assess with high confidence that the GRU was directed to pass material it collected to WikiLeaks and other intermediaries.
“ Putin most likely wanted his intelligence services to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012 and holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him, judging from press reporting. Given this, we assess with high confidence that the GRU was directed to pass material it collected”
This ENTIRE statement is wrong.
The only le way you have is when you sited, “judging from press reporting” and if you believed press reporting THEN or NOW, you are beyond arguing with.
.........that's literally an example from the report. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the DHS?
But I think you maybe fail to see how I'm using this example to highlight how this information (true or not) was available long before the September (or December) ICA report(s).
Thanks for all you do to get the truth out Matt!
The hack of the DNC emails is always brought up because it fit the narrative they wanted to cement. But the attempted hack of the RNC emails (the targets were simply not as dumb as John Podesta at DNC), and the fact that they *successfully* hacked Colin Powell's emails and purposefully released negative things he said about Donald Trump --- all of that gets memory holed for not fitting the narrative they wanted to stick in 2017 and later.
Update - Watching Matt on Megyn Kelly - he's killing it! Update II - Megyn's Hunter rant discussion the Emily Jashinsky is really sharp - Emily pointed out that Hunter is doing what Trump did when he came down the escalator - trashing the entire GOP - purely authentic - who cares if Hunter's right (and in part he is). Emily pointed out that Hunter is a ratings goldmine-riveting (although I would have compared him to Charlie Sheen winning!)
Emily suggested Megyn hire Hunter for his own podcast called: What The Fuck! Genius, no? Who wouldn't watch?
https://www.youtube.com/@MegynKelly
The definitive answer is that there's no evidence of a hack - the entire case is built on cui bono.
People forget two facts. In the summer of 2015, Obama left the DNC without funds, HRC offered her cash in return for control of the distribution to candidates, effectively seizing control of the primary. Many Democrats hated HRC.
In August of 2015, Obama and HRC wanted to freeze VP Biden out, and neutralize a surging Bernie Sanders. You can find the timeline easily by searching the NYT articles from that time. "HRC wins the Invisible Primary"
Rage against the establishment over Too Big To Fail and the ACA funneled into two torrents - Bernie and then Trump, but only much later. Bernie was HRC's main enemy, and HRC's original Putin puppet. Who hacked HRC's emails?
We still don't know. Fact.
Or that it was hacked. They have never shown evidence. The claim is that the data transmission speeds were too fast for an internet hack, but consistent with download to a thumb drive. 'Crowdstrike’s Shawn Henry who had the DNC hard drive said in his deposition that there was no evidence Russia hacked the emails.' Thanks Susan Johnston for the citation.
So who ended up with thumb drive of Podesta’s emails? Some say Seth Rich.
The FBI has Rich's computer and could easily have cleared him by now if there was no trace of evidence.
But maybe Rich's data was Russian Disinformation like Hunter's abandoned hard drives?
If this is correct (that the FBI has Rich's computer), well then who is in charge of the FBI now & why have the contents of that computer not been released? Not doubting your statement, just wondering why those currently in charge have not followed up on that. Seems to me that if Rich's computer has evidence that he was the source of the leak, this would really blow things wide open.
I'm aware of the debate, thx. We have no conclusive evidence of how the emails ended up online. You agree, I'm sure.
Yes and this is crucial. Matt doesn’t play this up enough.
Paul Harper, you old conspiracy theorist you. Until John Brennan confirms, we cannot let our minds go there. Btw, I watched Jack Ruby shoot Oswald on live TV. So I know that we can't delve into conspiracies. 2+2=5
The story I believe is that Seth Rich (the DNC anlayst later found murdered in Washington DC under not-at-all-suspicious circumstances) downloaded the emails, at least the ones from Hillary that were in the DNC's server, and gave them to Wikileaks, who then published some of them.
That has always been my understanding, as well.
Did the FBI/NSA..anyone?? other than crowdstrike ever finally get their hands on the "hacked" hard drives?
I suspect that NSA has copies of them.
Over complication, confusion and obfuscation is the method being employed by the Dems. Great defense really when you don't have a picture of the butler putting the poison in the glass. From a public perspective Russiagate was a too complex by half campaign of accusations backed by "facts" from people who they trusted. That most of it but probably not all of it was based on complete BS doesn't matter. Hillary and the Dems should have been as strategic in how they managed the 2016 campaign. They would have won.
I get the analogy, but Charlie Sheen is a whole lot funnier, and smarter, than Hunter Biden.
Thank you for this!!
You can not believe the evidence, but there is certainly evidence. Dutch Intelligence claimed to have hacked in to Russian hacking ops centers due to trying to conclusively tie Russia to shooting down hundreds of their citizens on the Malaysian air flight. They claimed to have watched the DNC info being accessed. They later also informed DoD of a direct hack into DoD systems. This was all reported years ago by Dutch papers like die Volkskrant.
> who hacked HRC's emails?
Jw - do you mean Podesta's? Afaik HRC has never said her emails were hacked.
Those emails were carefully curated. They emphasized the bias against Bernie while holding Hillary at arms length. Had to be an inside job.
Not to mention that just like this recent dump -- THEY ARE ALL TRUE!
The DNC looked bad BECAUSE THEY SABOTAGED BERNIE!
I find it hilarious that they accuse the Russians of trying to influence the election in favor of Trump by actually publishing DNC internal communications. Sounds like a self-indictment to me.
Telling people what we're up to? You must be for the other guys!
LOL!! Thanks for pointing that out!
And then Bernie threw himself under Hillary’s bus!
It was a sound financial decision.
😆A socialist has to survive - spending other people’s money.
You have to wonder what she had on him, or threatened him with. His wisest move would have been to use the Convention platform to announce a third party candidacy, saying "I don't care if Trump wins, he agrees with half my agenda, which is more than you do, Secretary Clinton."
That's the investigation I want Trump to do...
I think it's coming. But there's so much to investigate.
Maybe Assange knows? I remember reading that Assange implied that the emails were from the DNC and soon after, Bernie Bro Seth Rich, who worked at the DNC, was robbed/killed under mysterious circumstances. Stranger things have happened in dirty old DC. 🤔
Yeah that was very odd. That made me suspicious about Assange. Either Rich did leak, or Assange was blatantly attempting to throw a huge, false distraction out there.
He never did explain himself, why he put up reward money for finding Rich's killer...
If Assange wants to regain his credibility, he will explain that truthfully. Until he does, that's a huge black check on him.
Perhaps you're unaware of a core precept at Wikileaks: Never give up a source. Corollary: or a dead source, either! To do what you say would violate all of that.
Myeahhh....BUT...the point remains: Either Assange was blatantly perpetrating a hoax, or Rich was, indeed, the source of the leak. It has to be one or the other. I know of no journalistic principle of protecting sources beyond their graves (although I'm not an expert about this caveat).
All the evidence I have seen indicates that it was a random murder, and that Rich was NOT the source of the leak. If Assange wants to regain his credibility, he would be forthright about this. Of course, we don't know what sort of secret deal he may have made to secure his freedom, so....
But the point remains.
Another question that the Trump Administration could perhaps shine some sunlight on if they wanted to live up to their pledge of transparency, and themselves, regain the lost trust of the public.
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Matt needs to always remember, from an old Football coach. The best defense is a great offense.
And the leftists have been employing that for the last 50 years.
He’s repeating lies. Crowdstrike’s Shawn Henry who had the DNC hard drive said in his deposition that there was no evidence Russia hacked the emails. I can’t stand these people.
The facts are known - they just don't matter.
They do and they will. Barry and his henchmen (and henchwomen) are going down.
They underestimate Team Trump at their own peril.
I think it would be more delicious for Trump to pardon Barry and then make him fess up.
You are far more optimistic than I, but I hope you are correct.
Jeff Childers Covid & Coffee this AM is titled ‘Benedict Obama’
He linked to Trump yesterday in the Oval accusing Barack of treason, in live worldwide feed. The die is now cast. You can’t easily walk it back. So, does tha administration have the goods?
Scott Adams says we could be headed for a civil war over this, and if so, he’s okay with that. Because he asks, who wants to live in country where government can make up a hoax then try to imprison you over it and subvert an election? Whoever does that needs to be criminally punished. If not, the potential for it to be repeated grows stronger.
https://x.com/QuotesFromCWSA/status/1947695805042725136
Russiagate is a small part of the much greater LIE that defines the "gaslight" which keeps We the People spinning from crisis to manufactured crisis. Are WE trying to convince ourselves that we're not crazy. That's what "gas lighters" do. Human moral reason washes off the back of malignant narcissism like water off a duck. While We the People are going WTF D.C./Brussels/Davos grifters--between lunch and dinner-- wheel barrow loot and tax
treasure into numbered accounts across the world and never miss a beat--or lose a dime. They spend more on lunch than the average American worker makes in a week. If there is a smoking gun it's the one that put a bullet in the American middle class and looted and destroyed the greatest economy in the world. As in the case of Hitler--there ain't enough retribution to square the books. Look at what the thugs have done/are doing to the rest of the worlds free peoples. I'm 101% for RACKET calling out the grift. Matt and Walter might save American journalism. But We the People have bigger problems. There is nothing bigger--or more important--than the American Republic-its Constitution and the free citizen. --Accepting that fact--against all arguments to the contrary-is the beginning of good mental health and recovery. Everything else is psyop.
Let’s also not forget the other big lie that won’t go away: that there is a difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. I can’t wait to see more “leftists” comments.
Obama and Brennan and Comey are no more leftists than Joe Manchin.
This was a case of the elite power establishment not liking the outcome of an election. So they tried to undo it. Any Republican or Democrat other than Trump or Bernie would have been just fine with Obama.
Yes Sir. Self-interested wealth and the creation of a debt bound economy at the expense of society at large-if you believe historians and economists who claim to know--destroyed Rome. 60 to seventy percent of American wealth--if you believe those who claim to know-- is controlled by ten percent of our population. So yes. Terms like Democrat/Republican or left/right and capitalist/communist--whatever they meant in the past--don't mean that now. The American Republic--may have always been/is now an island. World domination by a handful of surveillance spooks--billionaire opportunists and the undead scientific bean counter sterility of the managerial elite that serves the lunacy is already--if you believe the people who claim to know--building euthanasia centers--replacing populations and imprisoning citizens for thought crimes. The moral vacuum/evil--by those who claim to know--is the willingness of the 5 percent who've captured and distorted the world economy to destroy the world to maintain the strangle hold.
The LIE reveals the open contempt the liar holds for the victims of the LIE. Depression--confusion and despair are the intentional consequences of the LIE. It strips away the power of the individual and creates a false reality which the liar can manipulate at will. There is the Republic--the Constitution and the free citizen. WE tHE PEOPLE should /will continue to believe in and support the power of truth speakers--it's what we have left. But--if we believe those who claim to know--the chasm is wide and the forces at play against the free peoples of the world are strong. It is the person by person/citizen by citizen awakening--strengthening and return to our own communities and actionable love and support for those we love that will overcome the LIE.
Sorry LGM--too much Black Rifle again. :)
No worries, Mike. It's always encouraging to find others who are able to see through all the distracting mist.
I'm up for one more shot at turning the ship. Something dramatic has to be done economically. And I think it can be done without wholesale sacking of the wealthy through taxes. (though if Zuckerberg can pledge to give away 99% of his money, we'll find better uses for it)
The amount of wealth that is about to be created by artificial intelligence will be as large as that created by globalization. Unfortunately, much of it will come from elimination of jobs. There is a way to ensure that wealth is more evenly distributed, unlike what happened the past 45 years.
We need a candidate who loves capitalism and loves working people, and loves seeing working people succeed in capitalism. That person hasn't emerged for 2028. It won't be from the "Republicans" or "Democrats," neither of which can seem to resist the temptation to mess with social issues. One side promises to get prayer back in schools and to prevent gay people from getting married. The other side promises to allow minors to elect extremely invasive gender surgeries.
We need a candidate who understands that society will figure that stuff out, like it always has. The focus needs to be on economic. That's the one thing James Carville ever called right. If someone doesn't emerge in the next 6-12 months, I may have to do it myself.
A truth/fact based national conversation grounded in economic reality--not figure heads and sensationalism. We're getting there. Matt Stoller/BIG is the only consistent voice I've found on economics-- and the machinery D.C. and otherwise--manipulating it. And BIG is for the most part completely over my head. I'm still attempting to build a workable understanding. Knowing something is wrong without being able to say why is the boat I most often find myself in. WE all see the consequences through our windshields every day--and the human damage is a horror. The general crippling of daily life touches all of us. Taibbi called it during the '08 crash--none of us understand the language and the game well enough to call it. And--there is a manufactured psyop that screams over the top of human moral reason to keep it that way. RACKET has up'ed the ante with more economic reports--but We the People need to deal ourselves into the game or the would be totalitarians are going to run the table.
One "plus" for us is the spotlight on the billionaire NGO/surveillance grift that uses tax treasure to create front groups that conceal political operatives that work against the Republic's best interest. The real damage --as in the DNC/Mayorkas illegals grift--is the "fuzzy" no mans land where cartel/criminal interests merge with spook land and the D.C. hog trough. People die. 2.5 percent inflation announced today doesn't address the 20 percent jump in less than a decade. I'm fortunate and grateful but pretense that the lives of others-- less so--doesn't affect my own helps no one.
A healthy national conversation and a rebirth of engaged citizenship is the place to start.
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Americans live in a Post-Truth Era. By our politicians' design.
Susan Johnston is right. AND Bill Binney proved the emails were NOT hacked - He showed they could only have been downloaded to a portable drive by someone on the DNC premises . The proof is very technical but it is nevertheless proof. Matt is heroic but he needs to study and master this aspect. I hope Tulsi Gabbard will collate and present the case for a DNC leak of the emails to Wikileaks.
That's not exactly right. To elaborate:
1) Henry said that he had no evidence that the data was actually "exfiltrated" from the DNC server - he said it was "set up" to be exfiltrated, but that they have no evidence it actually was.
He then went on to say that a potential hacker could have saved the data without leaving a record of "exfiltration" by for example taking screenshots. So, maybe someone went through the trouble of accessing the DNC server and setting up the exfiltration, but stopped and decided to take screenshots of 70gb of emails.
2) Henry testified that he has a "high degree of confidence" it was Russia bc "what we'd call the tactics and techniques were consistent with what we'd seen associated with the Russian state." That's it.
3) CrowdStrike never gave the FBI access to the physical DNC servers, despite repeated requests at multiple levels from Comey. How much info CrowdStrike shared with the FBI seems to be a matter of debate, but the fact that they (perhaps at the behest of the DNC) denied Comey's requests is not contested by anyone.
4) Shawn Henry was a deputy director at the FBI under Mueller. He started CrowdStrike with a Russian guy (Alperovitch) who hates Putin. CrowdStrike was hired to investigate this data breach by the same Perkins Coie lawyer - Michael Sussmann - who hired FusionGPS to produce the Steele Dossier. Christopher Steele testified in a UK court that Sussmann is the guy who floated the "Alfa Bank server theory" to him - the fiction that Alfa Bank had a secret server set up for back channel comms with Trump.
5) Julian Assange said he did not get the emails from the Russians. Truth be told, I've always wondered how Assange would know that, unless he meant to imply that he dealt in person with his source and verified their identity and ability to access the data. Which of course he very well may have..
At any rate, of the above, I know who I'm trusting, lol.
The screenshot story from Henry is so nonsensical. They had a tap on the network. They knew and recorded every bit that came in and out.
By definition if the emails left over the network, then they were exfiltrated over the network and Crowdstrike saw them leave over the network. Whether as text or screenshot or text-to-speech audio files or whatever other absurd convoluted method Henry wants to come up with.
They were either exfiltrated over the network or they weren't. And they weren't says Henry.
Which leaves local copying as by far the most likely option.
Not saying it wasn't Russia--they could have penetrated the cleaning crew.
Not saying it wasn't Seth Rich--Hell, Seth Rich could be a Russian Spy (When Seth Rich is seriously called a Russian spy, then we are very very close to the end of RussiaGate.)
Just saying that the most likely thing after Henry's testimony is local exfiltration.
Well said!
I still don’t understand how Perkins Cole could just say nah to the director of the FBI, and understand less why he said, oh ok.
I think probably because the FBI didn't really have grounds to force the issue. I think it's easier to see what I mean if you think of the DNC as a normal private business. If ABC123 Co. is the victim of a hacking crime, the FBI only knows about it in the first place if ABC123 tells them. Then if they say to the FBI, "hey don't sweat it, we are getting our servers privately analyzed - we'll have our guys send you the reports" - the FBI might just say "all right, if you want to do our work for us, that's fine, at least for now.. But we'll need to see the servers at some point, if you expect actual charges or a prosecution.."
So you do that dance for a while and then, once you have what you want from CrowdStrike, you tell the FBI to forget about it. And the FBI just swallows it bc, what else are they gonna do? They can't seize the servers without a warrant, and would a judge sign a warrant to seize property from the victim of a crime, especially a victim they know is going to challenge the warrant?
I think the DNC, all else equal, would've preferred zero FBI involvement, but their goal was to be able to say "this crime was investigated and we found who did it," and you can't credibly make that claim without at least superficially bringing in the FBI.
Right. No evidence Russia stole them, SH’s speculation about what *might* have happened notwithstanding. All kinds of things might have happened. I certainly wouldn’t trust Shawn Henry to give me an unbiased opinion since he was tapped by the DNC to do what the FBI should have done. The whole thing was ridiculous. Assange alluded to where he got them in an interview. Wasn’t Russia. Here’s Aaron Mate’s article on the Henry deposition.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.html
"Everybody knows..."???? What a pathetic clown! Everything Isikoff said was a bald assertion without ANY facts to support it! Even Crowd strike, another Clinton stooge, had to admit under oath they found zero evidence ANYONE hacked the DNC let alone Putin aka Dr. Evil; nor is there ANY evidence Putin/Dr. Evil gave the "hacked emails" ( that weren't hacked!!, but were likely downloaded to a thumb drive says Veteran Intelligence Professionals For Sanity) to WikiLeaks, and on it goes. These people are fools and liars. And f'ing liars!
The VIPs analysis taking the amount of data exfiltrated and the time it took showed a required baud rate which didn’t exist so it had to be someone logging on with valid credentials and copying to thumb drives.
I don't know how you can take it. But I'm glad that you have the stones to do it.
I don't know how you can have no ill will toward Chris Cuomo, who is a corrupt hack.
An understatement .
the silver lining of zoran. the end of the Cuomos. Well we can hope
I said somewhere else, in jest, that if Mamdami loves his city, the best thing he could do is withdraw and support Adams.
Things don’t look good for New York City.
You get what you vote for
Good and hard, as Mencken so wisely said.
yeah that was what was on my mind when I wrote that
Fuck me......that was painful. Michael Isikoff is an insufferable lying sack of shit and Cuomo is so far out of his punt coverage on this he's not even in the godamned stadium.
Keep up the great work Matt......you're a national treasure.
You don't hate the media enough - you think you do, but you don't. https://x.com/Evans_Wroten
Sorry they did that to you Matt, but not surprised they did it. Thanks for having the courage and strength to enter into this obviously stressful situation and fight the honest battle against the lies
They did the same bullshit with the Twitter Files stories....they KNOW they can just spin shit endlessly, obfuscate, dodge n weave and the Public will end so confused as to not give 2 shits. So depressing.
Thanks for not quitting, Matt. We owe you big time.
Matt, thank you for being a journalist with honor and integrity. I’m sure it feels like you are beating your head against a wall when talking to these media types, but at the end of the day, you will be a man who is admired by his readers, and more importantly, worthy of admiration by his kids.
They have no choice but to keep doubling down, even if the odds go to 1,000,000,000 to 1 against them. They can't and will not ever admit they've done anything wrong, regardless of the strength of the evidence. Lying liars gonna lie.
This is how addiction works. Most addicts refuse to change until they hit a bottom from which none of the old tricks can rescue them. Somewhere there's a twelve-step meeting for these unfortunates.
Recovery comes when consequences meet realization there is a problem.
It'll be a while.
Let's not forget the addiction to fixing addicts.
yes, they are psychos that understand nothing and respond only to brute force, and thus they must be handled.
You know, my husband told me this long ago that the only thing some people understand is force. I didn't like that and thought it was over the top, because I wanted to believe there was good in all - everyone is someone's child, etc. But more and more, I see that it is true and that demons like this like to take compassion and weaponize it. I still struggle with it.
It’s nice that you’re publicly fighting this, Matt, but we all know how it ends.
With a whimper.
Those in power believe in power, not principles.
There's a slight chance that once the spillway opens that people who were overruled start to talk. That's the one thing that could build critical mass.
Especially Comey
He just might be the “John Dean” of this whole sordid affair.
Will never happen
“Down go The Hollow Men!”
If true then only another power can hold them accountable
For many, many people, the truth is what your friends let you get away with saying.
You have the unfortunate problem of having a conscience, Matt.
Matt you are a warrior! They barely let you speak but you got the real punches in. What a smug bastard Isakoff is.
Chris Cuomo got his agenda in
I fast forwarded Cuomo to get to Matt & Michael. The only thing of value Chris stated in his long overwrought intro was ‘let’s now turn to our guests who know a lot more about this than I do’
Oh my god i did the same thing, ha ha!
Michael Isikoff looked crazy in the interview. He comes across as a delusional partisan who believes his own propaganda. But you can see the formulation of the talking points they are going to spew and the narrative they are coalescing around.
He looked like an inflatable, used-car-lot-waving-man on a windy day at one point :-)
theyve lied themselves into a corner and there is nothing else they can do. its time to make them take their medicine.
Isikoff did look a bit odd, widening his eyes and rocking back and forth into the camera. Lots of ‘emotion’ wafting off Michael as a result. Matt, was calm, cool counterpoint dropping facts.
Matt's demeanor doesn't sell. There's a reason car dealers use those inflatible manic fan-puppets.
Isakoff has always been a hack, and a flunky of the D's.
He was never a journalist.
Mouthpiece of the intelligence community for a decade plus, planting whatever story they wanted to tell.
It reminds me that I don't even believe we know what happened during Watergate any more. "Deep Throat" was literally the Deputy Director of the FBI and was later found guilty of *ordering illegal break-ins* by FBI agents during exactly the time he was telling Woodward and Bernstein what to write about Nixon. Watching Issikoff be a megaphone for the deep state is awful - and how was the FBI telling reporters what to write in the 1970s any different?
If you think Republicans aren't up to the eyeballs in every part of this uniparty mess, you're truly delusional.
The Steele dossier originated in GOP circles - see Lindsay Graham and McCain.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/25/politics/lindsey-graham-john-mccain-dossier-fbi
WTF up, why don't you?
Dude the Republican Party that you cite is on its deathbed. The phoenix that is rising from its ashes is the MAGA coalition.
You're dreaming if you think the GOP establishment wants to end pay for play and give up all the rest of the cash they've been stripping out of the public coffers. Trump has temporary control over part of the US government.
The majority of GOP and DEMS have been milking US taxpayers for decades and what they're doing right now is planning to ensure that nobody like Donald Trump ever ends up in control of the GOP again. Or, you can just trust the pols.
I don't. Your choice.
Totally agree. Of all that we don't know about this mess, the one thing I DO KNOW is that people from both parties collude together to push out boat-rockers. That has always been true, and will always be true.
Even Teddy Roosevelt wound up feeling the pointy end of that stick. Whoever tries to follow in Trump's footsteps doesn't have even half a chance against them.
CNN? Really? Why?
You're fucking joking, right? Washington Examiner, Axios, WP, Guardian, etc, etc. Graham's on the record that he told McCain to turn over the Steele Dossier to the FBI.
You think the GOP establishment in 2016 wanted Donald Trump to beat HRC? What fucking planet are you on?
You’re on here with one breath railing against believing what politicians say, and with the next breath you want us to believe a pair of scoundrels,
Lindsay Swamplizard Graham & John CrashAnotherPlane McCain.
McCain’s opposition research was handed around and democrats got hold of it, but there wasn’t any dossier in it. That dossier was funded by Fat Hog Hillz via her attorneys at Perkins Coie. That is election fraud, because she hired a foreign national to engage in campaign activity. The Fat Hog was fined enormously by the FEC for her flagrant cheating.
McCain got hold of it later but he didn’t start it nor fund it.
"The DNC was fined $105,000 and the Clinton campaign was fined $8,000." Don't think that constitutes "fined enormously by the FEC"; Hillary probably steals more than that every day.
pardon me. the $500,000 in fines for campaign fraud that i misremembered were against both obama and clinton.
nevertheless paul’s point is proven wrong since it wasnt Moron McCain who was fined for the steele dossier; it was The Hag.
I don't think you understand that you're making my point.
i surely do not.
how does refuting all of your talking points make your point?
Horsebleep.Steele was never involved in anything until Perkins Coie hired Fusion with HRC money, and they hired Steele. Stop trying to peddle crap.
What else these turds gonna peddle?
It’s ironic that you spent so much time in Russia as your situation in journalism is reminiscent of a Russian novel to me. A man seeking the truth while surrounded by corrupt liars at every turn. I hope you don’t end like a Russian character, usually destroyed, dead, or both.
I have talked to people in Russia about what it was like before the Soviet Union fell. If you look around our country and talk to people, we look a lot like what they have described.
Moreso every damn day
I had an Rx to be filled. RiteAid kept saying it was on order. After two weeks, I went in. They said they had been sold. CVS bought the Rx's. After jumping through hoops online, I went to CVS. As I went through all the data again, I said (whined) to the clerk that I had lived around the world and always thought the US was an easier place to be a customer. And she said to me, "That's what we get for living in a dying empire." Things are falling apart around us. Then she said that Trump was making it worse. But wasn't sure Kamala would have made it better.
CVS is emblematic of something to be sure, with its toothpaste locked up to prevent theft and crazy-making pharmacy which now has a French-style lunch hour followed by a long line of prescription-starved sufferers.
I am a student of Eastern European history. Over the last 5 to 10 years I have come to recognize the American political and media landscape as being terrifyingly similar to modern Russia's. Over the last one to two years I have shifted/refined my analogy from modern Russia to Ukraine circa the Orange Revolution and Maidan. The shift/refinement is apropos because the Russian analogy is largely true, but too top-heavy, where the Ukraine analogy better reflects the tensions between the freedom-oriented peoples vs the political, economic, and media oligarchs combined with a hefty infusion of Russia-sourced money/influence/threats. It's called directed democracy, and it's how authoritarian states operate to give themselves the veneer of representation legitimacy.
Right down to a bumbling old fool of a president- the bushy- browed fella - Brezhnev. They say he was completely gone - just like our president, Joe Tater.
Subtle.
I learned Chris planned to argue against Tulsi’s report as “dangerous” and a “conflation”
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My shocked face is oh-so-shocked. 😐
Just finished up my deep dive into this, and if ANYBODY was "conflating" anything, it was Democrats with "hacking" and "interference". And for what it's worth, almost all of the "proof" used in the January 2017 report was publicly available for years.....so why was the "Putin is helping Trump" narrative missing until that December 9th meeting?
One example:
Putin most likely wanted his intelligence services to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012 and holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him, judging from press reporting. Given this, we assess with high confidence that the GRU was directed to pass material it collected to WikiLeaks and other intermediaries.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/deep-dive-dni-declassifications
You are wrong .
“ Putin most likely wanted his intelligence services to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012 and holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him, judging from press reporting. Given this, we assess with high confidence that the GRU was directed to pass material it collected”
This ENTIRE statement is wrong.
The only le way you have is when you sited, “judging from press reporting” and if you believed press reporting THEN or NOW, you are beyond arguing with.
.........that's literally an example from the report. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the DHS?
But I think you maybe fail to see how I'm using this example to highlight how this information (true or not) was available long before the September (or December) ICA report(s).
Thanks Matt, well done. You held your own..I liked the "You should be ashamed!", it was great.
Just that, alone, made my day!!