I'd like to see what Walter has to say today about how bad the right is at domestic violence. He said we are much better at the voting booth and in our churches. Both he and Matt commented that the right has a very bad track record at this "game". The fact is that we have been too busy working and trying to take care of our families and friends to play any freaking "game". What we are seeing right now is that our families and friends and society are being harmed with the apparent blessing of a bunch of evil people in our leadership, our judiciary, our schools, our "entertainment industry" and our media.
On top of that, it is an open secret that foreign governments, NGOs and George Sorros (and his ilk) are at work, every day, sans any opposition from our own government, to destroy us.
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus comes to my mind, Walter, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.
You are correct sir. Other than Tim McVeigh way back when and a few psychos only nominally "right wing", I'm not sure who or where this "right wing" violence is.
Where is the evidence? Where is the data? I'm willing to acknowledge I missed it if it's there. I'm open minded. But you'd think if it is there it would have been reported widely in recent years. Right? (no pun intended). And not just manufactured to check politically correct boxes so everybody can feel virtuous.
Where is it? other than a few manufactured entrapments of local losers with a sticker slapped on their butts that said "right wing fascist racist terrorist"
We're trying to be citizens in a democracy here, not spectators of a professional wrestling event. We need to call things by their proper names.
Where the hell is the evidence? I'm willing to look with integrity and purpose to see what is true.
Regarding the two recent cases of “right-wing” violence. Paul Pelosi, what is the story there? Homeless person in his home?* And the terrible Minnesota shooting. Was the one victim a Dem who gave the only Dem vote for a Republican bill or budget that got passed? We need to know more.
* Nanci Pelosi stands behind the Pres and tears up his SOTU address. No message there.
We've all been had. Left or Right, we should seek out what we have in common and keep an open dialogue. Anyone who thinks the time to talk and work out our differences is over
can go back to watching CNN and FOX. Otherwise, let's allow us to disagree and tolerate one another so that we may see who the real enemy is.
Agreed! Best ATW ever, imho. Loved the opening - sober, honest, respectful, informed and informing, and above all measured from start to finish. Both Matt and Walter brought up great points. I especially liked Matt's strong grasp on it is now critical we all do SFA and just wait. Walter added great context and I his discussion of the Tik-Tok cottage industry was timely and invaluable.
Both Walter and Matt stressed that everybody is looking to get over - planting their flags in Charlie's still cooling corpse - Utah's scummy governor being by far the most odious. He is the perfect front for "Trust me, we're only acting to defend your best interests.
Can't overstate how wrong any broad changes to speech laws will be - imagine invading Iraq x 10 with no exit strategy. If there is a play going on, as Walter suggests - this is it the horseshoe connects and free discourse disappears "for truthiness and the good of us all."
Never felt better about supporting Matt and Walter! Many, many, many thanks!
Please, can you explain what Walter meant by "the play?" He referred to some sort of Covid game as a study in social theory - it sounded like a war game played by tacticians at a war college. He described it as a real event, and I was dumbfounded.
I think you're right, but with a looser dramatic descriptive valence. I agree, btw, that Walter is somewhat oblique, hence my deployment of "if" - my view is the desired outcome of elites never changes - gaining and retaining power in an changing landscape - the outcome for us being a constant: "more of the same, only worse."
Thank you. I thought maybe I'd missed something that had been reported, but it sounds more like Walter knows something he's not saying. That would be a shame in my view. He sounded to me as though he had something very particular in mind.
I suppose i think of elites in two ways - those more powerful than I whose game is manipulation by any means, the "public" elites, so called. I still hold to the old view of elites, people who are better than I in a number of possible ways, who lead by force of intellect, talent, character. They lead by example rather than by manipulation.
Very true. Our neighbors are not the enemy. The enemy are those who want to rip this country apart, and most of us just want to get food on the table and have a day or rest and pleasure now and then. We want our kids to actually be educated and have normal lives where we are allowed to let them go outside without having the police called on us.
Tonight after Racket I caught up with The Five on Fox, and Greg Gutfeld ripped the token Dem a new one. It was raw. It was right on. The point: there is no more what about this, blah, blah, blah. We have been murdered for our beliefs, and we are done.
True. This is where I preach: the Democrat party is a criminal organization. We don’t think like criminals. That’s why we sometimes get caught off guard. They are diabolical…. End of my sermon.
I read Godel, Escher, Bach many years ago. I will have to dust off my hardcopy and read it again. I dislike reading great books online. And I am sure that if I dust it off and read it, I will understand it differently. You never wade into the same stream twice. I still own vinyl records, and I deal with theory of mind every day in my work as an autistic research scientist untangling autism for the neurotypicals I work among. My G-d is One, and the name is not solid, but changes because the language does not have solid past, present, and future. Lately, I have been worried about the loss of the Great Conversation of Western Culture quite often, because it is precious and fragile.
wow. that's serious. autism, etc. mind science, etc.
I agreed fully w/yr comment re: Cincinnatus. It's a through line right down the human archetype, 'though one never knows what those ancients were like with all their flaws. so much invention. Plutarch Lives etc.
So true what you say overall. I totally agree fully.
I was teeing up yr remarks as point of departure for my bloviating as I do. LOL.
Yes, unlike the One, the unmoved mover, the great conversation of Western culture is indeed precious and fragile. On bad days I fear it broken beyond repair. I appreciate your pointing out shifting language and meanings. Really excellent comment.
I commented elsewhere that Trump should leak stories of rage the day after the Kirk assassination, then come out the next day to repeal the patriot act after dems were scared.
Here's a great excerpt from Orwell (Politics and the English Language), regarding language abuse:
"The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’. The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice, have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of régime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different."
Written in 1946, but could have easily been written today (or maybe should have been written again today!).
No, they didn't talk about the novel, promised to wrap it up on Friday. Matt made the comment about the "gorgeous" prose Friday last, and my post was made before the show aired.
I remain somewhat amazed that the most radical shouters from the left seem to be intent on "poking the bear". The conservative right is, if nothing else, armed to the teeth. They should thank their lucky stars that the majority of conservative gun owners are more even keeled and well aware of what their use entails.
Lib geniuses: "Literally Hitler has taken over! Let's publicly celebrate the assassination of one of his favorite Nazis, then just go about our day."
"It's terrible how those right wing psychos love guns more than other people's lives. Let's temporarily forget about that and normalize shooting people over politics!"
I feel as though my twice-weekly encounters with Matt & Walter help me stay sane. For the record, I'm a Canadian senior who pays far more attention to U.S. politics than I do Canadian (lost cause, all of them up here). Thanks, guys!!
I’m not a fan of Charlie Kirk. Though he didn’t say what was quoted, what he did say vis-a-vis “stealing a job from a white person” is pretty bad in its own right. Not to mention a bad argument. There are ways to convincingly argue against DEI and racial preferences that aren’t so incendiary and, frankly, offensive.
That said, he didn’t deserve to die for it. Nobody does on the right or left. This used to be a common principle most ppl agreed with, and I hope it’s one all decent ppl still do. It’s hard to tell what’s what on social media, where us center left / right ppl are held hostage by sociopaths all fighting each other for the mic.
I like what Walter said it about it. Whether friend or foe, I don’t believe in litigating opinions posthumously. You got a problem, debate in public. Convince us. You pull a gun and you already lost. I think we are going to see that in this case.
What is affirmative action other than hiring or admitting a less qualified black person (or member of other supposedly marginalized group) over a more qualified white person? That is exactly what affirmative action is. It is not anything else. If you are for affirmative action, that is what you are for.
Maybe "stealing" is inflammatory? But it is accurate. Would it be acceptable if he said "taking a job from a white person" instead?
We have gotten to this point as a society because a large segment of the establishment left finds truth offensive.
I think the fact that you believe that only a white person could have deserved these jobs may speak to how you frame the world. No Asians on the Court, even though there are many deserving candidates in that population.
And like I said, I’m against DEI and speak out against it. However, this “they stole it from the white people” language was intended to be inflammatory and insulting. There are so many better ways to articulate this argument without intentionally antagonizing ppl. It’s comparable to the way Karen Attiah’s speaks against white ppl (she was also discussed this show). It’s intended to insult and it’s red meat for the hardcore partisans. I dislike it no matter who is doing it.
Anyway, I don’t really want to belabor this point. My larger point was against political violence. Peace.
Define affirmative action for me in a way that means anything other than hiring a less qualified person from a "protected class" over a more qualified white person. You can't. Because that is what affirmative action is.
Contrary to your strawman, I do believe people from protected classes can be the best candidate for any job. That is why I do not believe in affirmative action. Evaluate each candidate on the merits, not by the color of their skin.
More qualified people from protected classes should not be discriminated against by hiring less qualified white people instead. But that's a reason to prohibit identity-based discrimination in hiring, a policy with which just about everyone, Charlie Kirk included, agrees. Affirmative action, on the other hand, is just institutionalized identity-based discrimination in hiring.
Charlie Kirk is reviled and was killed for pointing out these sorts of basic facts, and most notably for pointing out the basic fact that a man is a man, regardless of whether he claims to be a women. Similarly, affirmative action is racial discrimination against white people, regardless of what it claims to be.
Biden explicitly promised he'd pick black women for VP and USSC. Pointing that out doesn't mean no black women can be qualified, only that in those cases qualifications were avowedly not the primary concern. But then the left loves to play its "that's not happening but it's good" game with DEI: it's necessary in order to get women & minorities into various jobs, but no individual benefits from or is disadvantaged by DEI, and any claim to the contrary is vicious bigotry.
“That’s not happening but it’s good” is exactly what they’re doing. They played the same game with censorship during the Biden administration too. It’s a mainstay of theirs.
“Affirmative Action” is how for hundreds of years ONLY white men could serve on the Supreme Court. These goddamn white bigots only begin marking time from the moment their absolute grip on power was lost.
That,s one form of free speech we'd be better off without. I can think of lots of others, but I like the alternative less. I bet Matt is right though - it,s coming.
I can’t believe the excuses for Charlie Kirk! Sure don’t speak ill of the dead but the right is still saying George Floyd died because of a fentanyl overdose. wtf is going on ? Is this the same Matt Taibbi that wrote “I Can’t Breathe” & “Insane Clown President.”
Charlie Kirk said he didn’t believe in empathy and that gun violence is an unfortunate side effect we must accept to protect our freedoms. And Matt is out here making more excuses for his lack of empathy than he made for Bari Weiss and her rabid Zionist hasbara….im gonna have to join the Greek chorus here Matt:
I would advise you to read or watch in full what Charlie Kirk ACTUALLY said on those issues instead of regurgitating the talking points you've seen in the media. His comment on gun violence was nuanced, not that you'd know that from what is being posted.
I remember back in 2020 when the George Floyd issue was red hot. It must have been the first week or two of June that year.
I was in the doctor's lounge, with a bunch of Internal Medicine residents and another bunch of OB-GYN docs. If you do not know this, the OB-GYN contingent and to some degree the Pediatricians are among the most militant leftist and feminist of the entire profession.
At the table of residents a loud discussion was happening among the residents. One of them was a black guy who was actually one of the best residents I have ever had. In the conversation, he casually stated that he as a black man could not even believe what was happening; that actually George Floyd was one of the biggest scumbags he had ever seen discussed in news stories. That people like him were why his people back in the neighborhood were absolutely screwed. Some of the other residents - mainly white kids - were pushing back on him hard. They began calling him names, etc. Telling the black kid that had actually grown up in the projects that he was completely ignorant of black issues - all kinds of stuff like that.
Then the OB GYN attendings - there were two if I remember - got into the act. If you have never been yelled at by an angry OB-GYN attending - you have missed something in your disciplinary life. The OBs got right into the white kids faces - and at the top of their lungs screamed - OF COURSE FLOYD IS A SCUMBAG - BEATING YOUR PREGNANT PARTNER TO A PULP WITH A CROWBAR AS A GROWN MAN IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF BEING A SCUMBAG. HOW STUPID ARE YOU ANYWAY? YOU NEED TO GROW A PAIR.
That is about the time I really checked out of social media completely. Used only for family communication now. It is also the time I realized in full how screwed we were as a country and how this whole thing was not going to end well.
Commentary similar to yours above and what I have been reading all over the Internet today has confirmed my opinion of this in full. White uninformed progressives have this bad tendency to tell everyone else what is obviously wrong with their lives and how only they have the answers. And everyone else is a dumbass. Again, this is not going to end well.
wtf is this drivel? What does this have to do with anything? George Floyd deserved to be killed by police because one black man at an OB/GYN wing of a hospital you worked at said so? Real convincing and interesting argument there 😂
Thank you whoever you are……I am very much trying to teach my residents and medical students the practice of argumentation and logic. It is a skill that is completely lost. You, in an absolutely hysterical way, gave us examples of both ad hominem arguments and straw man arguments in one fell swoop. We all learned something, had a great discussion and had a few laughs as well.
It is not just you. This is the level of discourse that has been seen on all sides in the past 5 days. Absolutely no effort of reflection on what people are actually trying to say, immediately calling them or their arguments names, and then stating something that the commenter never said and having seizures about it. Point to me at any place where I stated that student thought that Floyd deserved to die……That is not what was said at all. It is why people can ignore all the actual strident calls for Kirk having deserved to die coming from the Left. Clearly, the actual point is totally lost on you. I do not know what political persuasion you are - but this sequence of events is most commonly associated with the progressive left.
Complete and total failure to look at the big picture. The progressives have made it a habit of making heroes out of all kinds of people in the past several years. People that have ended up being very problematic for their narrative. It has gotten so bad that even radical leftist feminists like the OB in the above story point out the flaws. And yet here we are bringing it up Floyd again and again as some kind of mantra - reminding the black student why he voted for Trump in the first place - it is because you have no idea why you are so offensive.
I have seen this weekend that we are no longer a nation that is able to debate. As you have so adequately demonstrated, there is no longer any conception of nuance.
But again thank you very much. The students have an excellent example of ad hominem and straw man thanks to you.
I have been a Democrat all my life. I am beginning to see clearly that the entire project may be too far gone for any of us to save.
Thank you so much for attempting to teach your students argumentation/logic. It’s a sad commentary on our education system that people need to get all the way to medical school or worse yet their residencies, to start to learn to think logically and critically.
Ok here’s a somewhat interesting argument: Several years ago Matt Taibbi wrote one of my favorite books on the current media landscape titled “Hate, Inc.” in which he eloquently and persuasively argued that corporate media companies and their sponsors are making a great deal of money of dividing the American population with inflamed rhetoric, distorted facts and outright lies.
It should be clear to anyone with basic comprehension skills that Charlie Kirk was engaging in this practice and had the backing of many of the same people who fund right wing news organizations. Charlie Kirk was actively engaging in what Taibbi himself described as “Hate, Inc.”, yet for reasons that are not clear he is making excuses for the exact behavior as exhibit by Kirk that he once condemned.
I didn't follow Charlie Kirk. What I know about him is what I've seen over the last week. Our impressions of him couldn,t be more different however. Here is a link to his Oxford debates - watch them and get back to me. Of particular note is the portion with George Abaraonye. A friend sent the link and comment:
"FYI - this is long but it shows Charlie Kirk in the lion’s den in Oxford. I had never heard him speak but he was very impressive in marshaling his thoughts before a skeptical audience. A real tour de force performance."
Unfortunately I’ve been seeing clips from his admittedly “Christian and Nationalist” podcast for years. He didn’t like being labeled a Christian nationalist although he did differentiate by saying he was Christian and a Nationalist 😬
The internet is filled with example of some of his greatest hits including his comments on black women, DEI, the blunder of lionizing MLK, his dislike of the word “empathy” (which Matt spins in this episode as a misunderstood word that he meant in a faith based way ) there are endless videos I could post, but I’ll stick with just this one
Yep thanks mate. Not sure CI is a real person though looking at their profile, certainly not an appealing one; your point though was very well demonstrated and certainly had me checking my own inclination for inflammation.
I’m reminded of the perhaps imperfect/ ahistorical metaphor of the sense of faith and practical purpose monks stockpiling books and retreating, reorienting, and fortifying the abbeys as Rome slowly fell. Whatever shared universalist principles of generosity and kindness and ideals of imagination and curiosity that I think many of us here share with M+W, have to be somehow acted upon in our own lives. What it sounds like you’re doing with your students is exactly the thing - and the thing we can never lose is our sense of humour. Respect.
Have you ever genuinely considered the possibility that if everyone around you, including a journalist you respect and have been reading for years, is voicing a different opinion to you, maybe YOU are the one who is out of touch and needs to reevaluate their views?
In other words, maybe we should all be the ones asking:
There’s a censorship angle to this story that involves Israel, in fact there are many stories that involve censorship and Israel. Censorship is something Matt has consistently covered especially around Russia gate and Covid. His cowardly refusal to write about censorship and Israel is shameful in the view of myself and many others.
You said a mouthful! The goddamn right wing was ready to lynch George Floyd’s corpse, they hated him so much for inspiring outrage against police brutality. The amount of calumny they spread about him… and now they are surprised that no one is crying tears of blood for a guy who was all in on “George Floyd died of Fentanyl, not having his neck crushed.”
Huh… Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck, wasn’t he? Looks like a fentanyl overdose to me.
I am a physician. Can we please go and pull the actual autopsy report - not the commentary on Rachel Maddow and BlueSky - the ACTUAL autopsy report - and I will happily take you through every part of it - inch by inch - and make sure you understand how thoroughly you have been deceived and manipulated. I am ready when you are.
Of course it is a cesspool. You do not like what you see or hear or someone asks questions or makes statements and immediately it is a cesspool. I have been involved in many debates and intellectual arguments in my life and have never once referred to the location, the platform or the other side as a cesspool. What I have seen lately that is a cesspool is all the videos and posts over the last few days referring to a dead man and his family. Now that is a cesspool.
It,s what people do who can,t formulate a coherent argument. They never learned how to "use words." I doubt you run into many of them in medicine, at least I hope you don't.
I’ve been an avid reader of all things Matt Taibbi for decades beginning with Rolling Stone and his coverage of the financial crisis of 2008-09. His politics have changed quite a bit since then. He’s not doing the courageous reporting he once did. He’s shying away from uncomfortable truths and it’s the speculation of many that his Fox News grandpa sidekick maybe part of the reason. The literature portion of the program is fantastic and worth every penny of my money. But the politics are starting to suck. The old Matt would be covering this topic more like Chris Hedges and Max Blumenthal are.
Chris Hedges and Max Blumenthal are doing courageous reporting that Taibbi once stood for. It’s a reminder of who he used to be before he took a right turn into crazy partisan land
Well I have been in medical education for decades. I have been a bit harsh with you because I am just frustrated with how this whole debate is going. The ancients gave us a vital framework for debate, and we are all doing pretty much the exact opposite. I would urge you absolutely to not just listen to those with whom you agree. That is the foundation of a life of ignorance. It is what really concerns me about places like Blue Sky. As I tell my students constantly, you need someone confronting you all the time. Find places online that do follow norms of debate and find them on all sides. The vast majority of podcasts and all of social media are not The answer.
Actually the dad being the cop was part of the incorrect framing trying to paint the kid as a right winger. It has now been thoroughly debunked by multiple news sources and this has been the case for 48 hours or so. But I suppose those who get their news from social media or Blue Sky would probably not know that and put smiley faces all over their non factual statement trying to make someone look bad. That is how we debate issues on social media.
The point is the kid had a father. Charlie said a father in the home reduces gun violence. The emoji is to emphasize the ridiculous irony of Kirk’s statement.
The facts keep changing in this case just like the Luigi Mangione case which Walter Kirn professed his doubts about constantly. But Kirn believes every detail about this case ? Something’s not right here. Idk I think this kid is a pasty just like Kirn said ad nauseam about Mangione. There’s an Israel angle here that’s been reported on but Taibbi and Kirn lack the courage to mention anything negative about Israel. It’s really sad.
There are no guarantees in life. But the statistics are clear that kids, especially boys, do better when there is a dad at home. One counter example does not disprove this because the data is so strong.
I could go on and on with more and better citations, but you get the point and I have other things to do. On a side note, I wonder what oppositional disorder compels someone to waste their time arguing clearly irrational and anti factual points on the internet. Touch grass, bud.
Do you understand the difference between "reduce" and "eliminate"? Has anyone ever said that having more fathers in the home would magically eliminate all gun violence in the country? What is it you think you're actually arguing here?
I don’t see how having a father in the home reduces gun violence. There have been many recent instances of mass shooters having both parents present in the home.
Kirk’s comments don’t line up with reality in the context. I’m not arguing just observing.
Sure, because maybe the very specific small class of gun violence, mass shooters, isn't greatly affected by having a father in the home. The reasons behind these kinds of shootings are probably very different to gang related shootings, which are far more common.
Try to put a bit more thought in before you reflexively respond with your "observations".
I don't recall her name but the black woman recently separated from the Washington Post discussed on today's ATW is hysterical. She worked for a publication that did as much as any in the Leftwing media to demonize conservatives. As an example, if I recall, and I think I do, Jennifer Rubin wrote in its pages in 2020 how Trump and his supporters had to be quarantined from "polite society.". But she managed to find that the locus of the cause of Charlie Kirk's assassination was not the WaPo but, instead, those same white conservatives that her former employer insulted so routinely because they did not pass gun control (which probably wouldn't have included the hunting rifle used by Kirk's murderer).
No doubt….. over 25% of leftist women are on some form of psycho drug, with over 50% reported to be depressed, etc. I’d be depressed too if I got up in the morning to face me.
The left is sicker than the right in this country. Fact. And I am not saying this because I am a biased right-winger. Rather, I now consider myself to be on the right because it became quite clear by no later than a few months into the Biden administration (which I stupidly voted for) that the left is sicker than the right in this country. And by now, it isn't even close.
That is how it seems to me as well, but I am always trying to see it from their side of the fence. How could so many fall for such an obviously false narrative? One that is harmful to us and our future generations. But I have slowly come to the realization that the right is controlled by the same monsters, in disguise, keeping us arguing while they implement their total digital control system. If we do not love one another for our flaws and see past our differences, we will be in dire straits. Many on the left are just confused and believe the news. They are not the screaming lunatics portrayed in the media. We all are victims of the psy-op, all of us. We need to unite against the true enemy, not our neighbors.
MAGA divisions growing along with disgust with the leadership of the Democratic party and then this assassination happens. Who benefits from this? Who wanted Charlie Kirk dead? Who did he threaten? Where is the investigation into the murder itself?
The rules have changed now. Hate Defamation is now a threat. Be on guard for defamation tests in workplaces. If accusations of hate are not immediately challenged as at least harassment if not incitement or threat, silence is tantamount to confession of hate to the accuser.
Outside the workplace, insult defamers as either stupid or accuse them of inciting violence. If they make a direct threat, TAUNT IT, and if they attack, strike them down. Get guards if you can’t fight. Guards be ready to defend speakers. This is organized leftist crime. If they attack in numbers, it is deadly force, which may be repelled by deadly force. Carry and train for tactical movement and shot skill, or hire or barter for security if needed. This is a domestic insurgency perpetrated by a Marxist terrorist factions in collusion with rogue deep state terror sponsors, foreign drug gangs and foreign terrorists. Prepare and stand guard as a volunteer and offer paid security services if you have training. We are at war.
I'd like to see what Walter has to say today about how bad the right is at domestic violence. He said we are much better at the voting booth and in our churches. Both he and Matt commented that the right has a very bad track record at this "game". The fact is that we have been too busy working and trying to take care of our families and friends to play any freaking "game". What we are seeing right now is that our families and friends and society are being harmed with the apparent blessing of a bunch of evil people in our leadership, our judiciary, our schools, our "entertainment industry" and our media.
On top of that, it is an open secret that foreign governments, NGOs and George Sorros (and his ilk) are at work, every day, sans any opposition from our own government, to destroy us.
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus comes to my mind, Walter, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.
You are correct sir. Other than Tim McVeigh way back when and a few psychos only nominally "right wing", I'm not sure who or where this "right wing" violence is.
Where is the evidence? Where is the data? I'm willing to acknowledge I missed it if it's there. I'm open minded. But you'd think if it is there it would have been reported widely in recent years. Right? (no pun intended). And not just manufactured to check politically correct boxes so everybody can feel virtuous.
Where is it? other than a few manufactured entrapments of local losers with a sticker slapped on their butts that said "right wing fascist racist terrorist"
We're trying to be citizens in a democracy here, not spectators of a professional wrestling event. We need to call things by their proper names.
Where the hell is the evidence? I'm willing to look with integrity and purpose to see what is true.
Regarding the two recent cases of “right-wing” violence. Paul Pelosi, what is the story there? Homeless person in his home?* And the terrible Minnesota shooting. Was the one victim a Dem who gave the only Dem vote for a Republican bill or budget that got passed? We need to know more.
* Nanci Pelosi stands behind the Pres and tears up his SOTU address. No message there.
My feelings, exactly. Bring it on…
Crazy people are crazy. Political labels seem beside the point because there is no rational context to crazy.
We've all been had. Left or Right, we should seek out what we have in common and keep an open dialogue. Anyone who thinks the time to talk and work out our differences is over
can go back to watching CNN and FOX. Otherwise, let's allow us to disagree and tolerate one another so that we may see who the real enemy is.
Ironically that is exactly what Charlie Kirk stood for. Not that you’d know that if you just listen to talking heads screaming for their team.
Yes.
Agreed! Best ATW ever, imho. Loved the opening - sober, honest, respectful, informed and informing, and above all measured from start to finish. Both Matt and Walter brought up great points. I especially liked Matt's strong grasp on it is now critical we all do SFA and just wait. Walter added great context and I his discussion of the Tik-Tok cottage industry was timely and invaluable.
Both Walter and Matt stressed that everybody is looking to get over - planting their flags in Charlie's still cooling corpse - Utah's scummy governor being by far the most odious. He is the perfect front for "Trust me, we're only acting to defend your best interests.
Can't overstate how wrong any broad changes to speech laws will be - imagine invading Iraq x 10 with no exit strategy. If there is a play going on, as Walter suggests - this is it the horseshoe connects and free discourse disappears "for truthiness and the good of us all."
Never felt better about supporting Matt and Walter! Many, many, many thanks!
Sherlock can wait, and we'll get there.
Please, can you explain what Walter meant by "the play?" He referred to some sort of Covid game as a study in social theory - it sounded like a war game played by tacticians at a war college. He described it as a real event, and I was dumbfounded.
I think you're right, but with a looser dramatic descriptive valence. I agree, btw, that Walter is somewhat oblique, hence my deployment of "if" - my view is the desired outcome of elites never changes - gaining and retaining power in an changing landscape - the outcome for us being a constant: "more of the same, only worse."
Thank you. I thought maybe I'd missed something that had been reported, but it sounds more like Walter knows something he's not saying. That would be a shame in my view. He sounded to me as though he had something very particular in mind.
I suppose i think of elites in two ways - those more powerful than I whose game is manipulation by any means, the "public" elites, so called. I still hold to the old view of elites, people who are better than I in a number of possible ways, who lead by force of intellect, talent, character. They lead by example rather than by manipulation.
Very true. Our neighbors are not the enemy. The enemy are those who want to rip this country apart, and most of us just want to get food on the table and have a day or rest and pleasure now and then. We want our kids to actually be educated and have normal lives where we are allowed to let them go outside without having the police called on us.
Nope. That bridge has been burned.
Tonight after Racket I caught up with The Five on Fox, and Greg Gutfeld ripped the token Dem a new one. It was raw. It was right on. The point: there is no more what about this, blah, blah, blah. We have been murdered for our beliefs, and we are done.
I’m sorry I missed it. Was the token dem Jessica Tarlov?
Who else. But she had been gone last week, boo hoo.
Fighting fire with fire equates to degenerating into the very thing you loathe.
Agree. Marching on with the mission after a failed attempt of reconciliation is not fighting anything. You just move on…
True it’s one reason I’m cancelling my subscription. Matt & Walt with this episode have definitively shown that’s not what they’re about.
I don't understand. I thought this was one of their best. They made pretty clear what they thought.
True. This is where I preach: the Democrat party is a criminal organization. We don’t think like criminals. That’s why we sometimes get caught off guard. They are diabolical…. End of my sermon.
Oh my! I wish I could have said what you said. It was perfect.
progressives work to destroy what conservatives work to conserve. No wonder we are at each other’s throats.
Thank you, Michael Coyle. I so appreciate your mention of Cincinnatus.
yep. like the burghers of calais famous before Rodin but even more famous after.
what is your myth? what is your narrative?
it's like asking who are your gods. well, some are better than others. but you need Godel's Theorem to grok it totally. LoL
ecce homo
I read Godel, Escher, Bach many years ago. I will have to dust off my hardcopy and read it again. I dislike reading great books online. And I am sure that if I dust it off and read it, I will understand it differently. You never wade into the same stream twice. I still own vinyl records, and I deal with theory of mind every day in my work as an autistic research scientist untangling autism for the neurotypicals I work among. My G-d is One, and the name is not solid, but changes because the language does not have solid past, present, and future. Lately, I have been worried about the loss of the Great Conversation of Western Culture quite often, because it is precious and fragile.
wow. that's serious. autism, etc. mind science, etc.
I agreed fully w/yr comment re: Cincinnatus. It's a through line right down the human archetype, 'though one never knows what those ancients were like with all their flaws. so much invention. Plutarch Lives etc.
So true what you say overall. I totally agree fully.
I was teeing up yr remarks as point of departure for my bloviating as I do. LOL.
Yes, unlike the One, the unmoved mover, the great conversation of Western culture is indeed precious and fragile. On bad days I fear it broken beyond repair. I appreciate your pointing out shifting language and meanings. Really excellent comment.
I'm afraid of the mistakes in law that could come from this tragedy - another form of the patriot act for example
I commented elsewhere that Trump should leak stories of rage the day after the Kirk assassination, then come out the next day to repeal the patriot act after dems were scared.
Didn't happen. Oh well. I was hopeful
Be prepared for more disappointment. The right thing would have been to axe the CIA and FBI. But Trump’s kept them for his own purposes, apparently.
I have to agree with Matt - The Hound of the Baskervilles is absolutely gorgeous prose. I'm enjoying re-reading this book so much.
Lots of fun, reading Doyle. Or Orwell. Or even Churchill! What they all had in common was mastery of the English language!
I plan to work in a revisit to the entire Holmes canon - The Strand reproductions, natch.
Here's a great excerpt from Orwell (Politics and the English Language), regarding language abuse:
"The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’. The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice, have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of régime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different."
Written in 1946, but could have easily been written today (or maybe should have been written again today!).
Demo means people; cracy means government, so government by the people, for the people, or of the people would define democracy. Right?
As in the German Democratic Republic? Maybe not…
Outstanding passage - clean, spare prose, and excellent observation and sense. Thanks.
I missed today’s ATW. Sounds like I missed the mystery. No?
No, they didn't talk about the novel, promised to wrap it up on Friday. Matt made the comment about the "gorgeous" prose Friday last, and my post was made before the show aired.
I remain somewhat amazed that the most radical shouters from the left seem to be intent on "poking the bear". The conservative right is, if nothing else, armed to the teeth. They should thank their lucky stars that the majority of conservative gun owners are more even keeled and well aware of what their use entails.
Lib geniuses: "Literally Hitler has taken over! Let's publicly celebrate the assassination of one of his favorite Nazis, then just go about our day."
"It's terrible how those right wing psychos love guns more than other people's lives. Let's temporarily forget about that and normalize shooting people over politics!"
I feel as though my twice-weekly encounters with Matt & Walter help me stay sane. For the record, I'm a Canadian senior who pays far more attention to U.S. politics than I do Canadian (lost cause, all of them up here). Thanks, guys!!
The nurse and doctor issue isn’t new. Especially if you happen to be Jewish. You haven’t been paying attention.
I’m not a fan of Charlie Kirk. Though he didn’t say what was quoted, what he did say vis-a-vis “stealing a job from a white person” is pretty bad in its own right. Not to mention a bad argument. There are ways to convincingly argue against DEI and racial preferences that aren’t so incendiary and, frankly, offensive.
That said, he didn’t deserve to die for it. Nobody does on the right or left. This used to be a common principle most ppl agreed with, and I hope it’s one all decent ppl still do. It’s hard to tell what’s what on social media, where us center left / right ppl are held hostage by sociopaths all fighting each other for the mic.
I like what Walter said it about it. Whether friend or foe, I don’t believe in litigating opinions posthumously. You got a problem, debate in public. Convince us. You pull a gun and you already lost. I think we are going to see that in this case.
What is affirmative action other than hiring or admitting a less qualified black person (or member of other supposedly marginalized group) over a more qualified white person? That is exactly what affirmative action is. It is not anything else. If you are for affirmative action, that is what you are for.
Maybe "stealing" is inflammatory? But it is accurate. Would it be acceptable if he said "taking a job from a white person" instead?
We have gotten to this point as a society because a large segment of the establishment left finds truth offensive.
I think the fact that you believe that only a white person could have deserved these jobs may speak to how you frame the world. No Asians on the Court, even though there are many deserving candidates in that population.
And like I said, I’m against DEI and speak out against it. However, this “they stole it from the white people” language was intended to be inflammatory and insulting. There are so many better ways to articulate this argument without intentionally antagonizing ppl. It’s comparable to the way Karen Attiah’s speaks against white ppl (she was also discussed this show). It’s intended to insult and it’s red meat for the hardcore partisans. I dislike it no matter who is doing it.
Anyway, I don’t really want to belabor this point. My larger point was against political violence. Peace.
Define affirmative action for me in a way that means anything other than hiring a less qualified person from a "protected class" over a more qualified white person. You can't. Because that is what affirmative action is.
Contrary to your strawman, I do believe people from protected classes can be the best candidate for any job. That is why I do not believe in affirmative action. Evaluate each candidate on the merits, not by the color of their skin.
More qualified people from protected classes should not be discriminated against by hiring less qualified white people instead. But that's a reason to prohibit identity-based discrimination in hiring, a policy with which just about everyone, Charlie Kirk included, agrees. Affirmative action, on the other hand, is just institutionalized identity-based discrimination in hiring.
Charlie Kirk is reviled and was killed for pointing out these sorts of basic facts, and most notably for pointing out the basic fact that a man is a man, regardless of whether he claims to be a women. Similarly, affirmative action is racial discrimination against white people, regardless of what it claims to be.
Biden explicitly promised he'd pick black women for VP and USSC. Pointing that out doesn't mean no black women can be qualified, only that in those cases qualifications were avowedly not the primary concern. But then the left loves to play its "that's not happening but it's good" game with DEI: it's necessary in order to get women & minorities into various jobs, but no individual benefits from or is disadvantaged by DEI, and any claim to the contrary is vicious bigotry.
“That’s not happening but it’s good” is exactly what they’re doing. They played the same game with censorship during the Biden administration too. It’s a mainstay of theirs.
“Affirmative Action” is how for hundreds of years ONLY white men could serve on the Supreme Court. These goddamn white bigots only begin marking time from the moment their absolute grip on power was lost.
Past identity-based discrimination was bad. Present identity-based discrimination is bad. Future identity-based discrimination would be bad.
The way to defeat identity-based discrimination is to stop engaging in identity-based discrimination.
Brilliant suggestions/comments from Walter about shutting down Pharma ads
That,s one form of free speech we'd be better off without. I can think of lots of others, but I like the alternative less. I bet Matt is right though - it,s coming.
I can’t believe the excuses for Charlie Kirk! Sure don’t speak ill of the dead but the right is still saying George Floyd died because of a fentanyl overdose. wtf is going on ? Is this the same Matt Taibbi that wrote “I Can’t Breathe” & “Insane Clown President.”
Charlie Kirk said he didn’t believe in empathy and that gun violence is an unfortunate side effect we must accept to protect our freedoms. And Matt is out here making more excuses for his lack of empathy than he made for Bari Weiss and her rabid Zionist hasbara….im gonna have to join the Greek chorus here Matt:
What happened you, man?
I would advise you to read or watch in full what Charlie Kirk ACTUALLY said on those issues instead of regurgitating the talking points you've seen in the media. His comment on gun violence was nuanced, not that you'd know that from what is being posted.
And saying that political violence is heinous and that Kirk has been misquoted in many cases are excuses for what? Talking? Living?
https://open.substack.com/pub/chrishedges/p/israel-charlie-kirk-and-the-weaponization?r=1ja7h&utm_medium=ios
I remember back in 2020 when the George Floyd issue was red hot. It must have been the first week or two of June that year.
I was in the doctor's lounge, with a bunch of Internal Medicine residents and another bunch of OB-GYN docs. If you do not know this, the OB-GYN contingent and to some degree the Pediatricians are among the most militant leftist and feminist of the entire profession.
At the table of residents a loud discussion was happening among the residents. One of them was a black guy who was actually one of the best residents I have ever had. In the conversation, he casually stated that he as a black man could not even believe what was happening; that actually George Floyd was one of the biggest scumbags he had ever seen discussed in news stories. That people like him were why his people back in the neighborhood were absolutely screwed. Some of the other residents - mainly white kids - were pushing back on him hard. They began calling him names, etc. Telling the black kid that had actually grown up in the projects that he was completely ignorant of black issues - all kinds of stuff like that.
Then the OB GYN attendings - there were two if I remember - got into the act. If you have never been yelled at by an angry OB-GYN attending - you have missed something in your disciplinary life. The OBs got right into the white kids faces - and at the top of their lungs screamed - OF COURSE FLOYD IS A SCUMBAG - BEATING YOUR PREGNANT PARTNER TO A PULP WITH A CROWBAR AS A GROWN MAN IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF BEING A SCUMBAG. HOW STUPID ARE YOU ANYWAY? YOU NEED TO GROW A PAIR.
That is about the time I really checked out of social media completely. Used only for family communication now. It is also the time I realized in full how screwed we were as a country and how this whole thing was not going to end well.
Commentary similar to yours above and what I have been reading all over the Internet today has confirmed my opinion of this in full. White uninformed progressives have this bad tendency to tell everyone else what is obviously wrong with their lives and how only they have the answers. And everyone else is a dumbass. Again, this is not going to end well.
wtf is this drivel? What does this have to do with anything? George Floyd deserved to be killed by police because one black man at an OB/GYN wing of a hospital you worked at said so? Real convincing and interesting argument there 😂
Thank you whoever you are……I am very much trying to teach my residents and medical students the practice of argumentation and logic. It is a skill that is completely lost. You, in an absolutely hysterical way, gave us examples of both ad hominem arguments and straw man arguments in one fell swoop. We all learned something, had a great discussion and had a few laughs as well.
It is not just you. This is the level of discourse that has been seen on all sides in the past 5 days. Absolutely no effort of reflection on what people are actually trying to say, immediately calling them or their arguments names, and then stating something that the commenter never said and having seizures about it. Point to me at any place where I stated that student thought that Floyd deserved to die……That is not what was said at all. It is why people can ignore all the actual strident calls for Kirk having deserved to die coming from the Left. Clearly, the actual point is totally lost on you. I do not know what political persuasion you are - but this sequence of events is most commonly associated with the progressive left.
Complete and total failure to look at the big picture. The progressives have made it a habit of making heroes out of all kinds of people in the past several years. People that have ended up being very problematic for their narrative. It has gotten so bad that even radical leftist feminists like the OB in the above story point out the flaws. And yet here we are bringing it up Floyd again and again as some kind of mantra - reminding the black student why he voted for Trump in the first place - it is because you have no idea why you are so offensive.
I have seen this weekend that we are no longer a nation that is able to debate. As you have so adequately demonstrated, there is no longer any conception of nuance.
But again thank you very much. The students have an excellent example of ad hominem and straw man thanks to you.
I have been a Democrat all my life. I am beginning to see clearly that the entire project may be too far gone for any of us to save.
Thank you so much for attempting to teach your students argumentation/logic. It’s a sad commentary on our education system that people need to get all the way to medical school or worse yet their residencies, to start to learn to think logically and critically.
Maybe you should try a convincing and interesting argument yourself?
Ok here’s a somewhat interesting argument: Several years ago Matt Taibbi wrote one of my favorite books on the current media landscape titled “Hate, Inc.” in which he eloquently and persuasively argued that corporate media companies and their sponsors are making a great deal of money of dividing the American population with inflamed rhetoric, distorted facts and outright lies.
It should be clear to anyone with basic comprehension skills that Charlie Kirk was engaging in this practice and had the backing of many of the same people who fund right wing news organizations. Charlie Kirk was actively engaging in what Taibbi himself described as “Hate, Inc.”, yet for reasons that are not clear he is making excuses for the exact behavior as exhibit by Kirk that he once condemned.
I didn't follow Charlie Kirk. What I know about him is what I've seen over the last week. Our impressions of him couldn,t be more different however. Here is a link to his Oxford debates - watch them and get back to me. Of particular note is the portion with George Abaraonye. A friend sent the link and comment:
"FYI - this is long but it shows Charlie Kirk in the lion’s den in Oxford. I had never heard him speak but he was very impressive in marshaling his thoughts before a skeptical audience. A real tour de force performance."
https://youtu.be/mlh_GfHmwts?si=6doI5st7aGpgtF4T
I don't share many of Kirk's religious views, and I don't care to mingle religion with politics, but I am having a hard time finding hate.
Unfortunately I’ve been seeing clips from his admittedly “Christian and Nationalist” podcast for years. He didn’t like being labeled a Christian nationalist although he did differentiate by saying he was Christian and a Nationalist 😬
The internet is filled with example of some of his greatest hits including his comments on black women, DEI, the blunder of lionizing MLK, his dislike of the word “empathy” (which Matt spins in this episode as a misunderstood word that he meant in a faith based way ) there are endless videos I could post, but I’ll stick with just this one
https://youtu.be/Nq9-rh7rj8A?si=ph-yyzaId-6H5_Ze
Yep thanks mate. Not sure CI is a real person though looking at their profile, certainly not an appealing one; your point though was very well demonstrated and certainly had me checking my own inclination for inflammation.
I’m reminded of the perhaps imperfect/ ahistorical metaphor of the sense of faith and practical purpose monks stockpiling books and retreating, reorienting, and fortifying the abbeys as Rome slowly fell. Whatever shared universalist principles of generosity and kindness and ideals of imagination and curiosity that I think many of us here share with M+W, have to be somehow acted upon in our own lives. What it sounds like you’re doing with your students is exactly the thing - and the thing we can never lose is our sense of humour. Respect.
Have you ever genuinely considered the possibility that if everyone around you, including a journalist you respect and have been reading for years, is voicing a different opinion to you, maybe YOU are the one who is out of touch and needs to reevaluate their views?
In other words, maybe we should all be the ones asking:
What happened to YOU, man?
There’s a censorship angle to this story that involves Israel, in fact there are many stories that involve censorship and Israel. Censorship is something Matt has consistently covered especially around Russia gate and Covid. His cowardly refusal to write about censorship and Israel is shameful in the view of myself and many others.
You said a mouthful! The goddamn right wing was ready to lynch George Floyd’s corpse, they hated him so much for inspiring outrage against police brutality. The amount of calumny they spread about him… and now they are surprised that no one is crying tears of blood for a guy who was all in on “George Floyd died of Fentanyl, not having his neck crushed.”
Huh… Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck, wasn’t he? Looks like a fentanyl overdose to me.
I am a physician. Can we please go and pull the actual autopsy report - not the commentary on Rachel Maddow and BlueSky - the ACTUAL autopsy report - and I will happily take you through every part of it - inch by inch - and make sure you understand how thoroughly you have been deceived and manipulated. I am ready when you are.
I posted the link.
Please read the autopsy report and detail the calumny.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6936176-Autopsy-2020-3700-Floyd/
Matt your comments section is a right wing cesspool now. Again I ask “what happened to you, man?”
Of course it is a cesspool. You do not like what you see or hear or someone asks questions or makes statements and immediately it is a cesspool. I have been involved in many debates and intellectual arguments in my life and have never once referred to the location, the platform or the other side as a cesspool. What I have seen lately that is a cesspool is all the videos and posts over the last few days referring to a dead man and his family. Now that is a cesspool.
It,s what people do who can,t formulate a coherent argument. They never learned how to "use words." I doubt you run into many of them in medicine, at least I hope you don't.
I’ve been an avid reader of all things Matt Taibbi for decades beginning with Rolling Stone and his coverage of the financial crisis of 2008-09. His politics have changed quite a bit since then. He’s not doing the courageous reporting he once did. He’s shying away from uncomfortable truths and it’s the speculation of many that his Fox News grandpa sidekick maybe part of the reason. The literature portion of the program is fantastic and worth every penny of my money. But the politics are starting to suck. The old Matt would be covering this topic more like Chris Hedges and Max Blumenthal are.
This is a common theme among several posters.
I totally get the idea that you could see your arguments as much stronger if Matt was echoing your voice--but I don't understand the why.
Is it that you think you have written a good song, but you just don't have the singing voice and you want Matt to be the singer?
Is it that you think Matt has a captive audience that will repeat whatever he says?
Do you think that Matt will come up with better arguments for your narrative than you can?
What power does Matt have that you want to borrow in this situation?
What does Matt have that Chris Hedges and Max Blumenthal don't?
Chris Hedges and Max Blumenthal are doing courageous reporting that Taibbi once stood for. It’s a reminder of who he used to be before he took a right turn into crazy partisan land
I get that part.
Is it a need for everything and everyone to be harmonized without dissent?
What does Matt have that you want--or is it just his submission?
Well I have been in medical education for decades. I have been a bit harsh with you because I am just frustrated with how this whole debate is going. The ancients gave us a vital framework for debate, and we are all doing pretty much the exact opposite. I would urge you absolutely to not just listen to those with whom you agree. That is the foundation of a life of ignorance. It is what really concerns me about places like Blue Sky. As I tell my students constantly, you need someone confronting you all the time. Find places online that do follow norms of debate and find them on all sides. The vast majority of podcasts and all of social media are not The answer.
Wondering if you're the same Doc who posts on NakedCapitalism? If so, I've appreciated your insightful thoughts for years as a reader of the site.
I’ve never been on Blue Sky. No idea why you keep bringing it up
Here’s the horses mouth. Very nuanced he was 😂more fathers in the home would reduce gun violence. 😂😂😂. Didn’t the kid have a cop dad ?
Actually the dad being the cop was part of the incorrect framing trying to paint the kid as a right winger. It has now been thoroughly debunked by multiple news sources and this has been the case for 48 hours or so. But I suppose those who get their news from social media or Blue Sky would probably not know that and put smiley faces all over their non factual statement trying to make someone look bad. That is how we debate issues on social media.
The point is the kid had a father. Charlie said a father in the home reduces gun violence. The emoji is to emphasize the ridiculous irony of Kirk’s statement.
The facts keep changing in this case just like the Luigi Mangione case which Walter Kirn professed his doubts about constantly. But Kirn believes every detail about this case ? Something’s not right here. Idk I think this kid is a pasty just like Kirn said ad nauseam about Mangione. There’s an Israel angle here that’s been reported on but Taibbi and Kirn lack the courage to mention anything negative about Israel. It’s really sad.
There are no guarantees in life. But the statistics are clear that kids, especially boys, do better when there is a dad at home. One counter example does not disprove this because the data is so strong.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8923429/
https://www.irp.wisc.edu/resource/involved-fathers-play-an-important-role-in-childrens-lives/
https://www.fatherhood.org/father-absence-statistic
I could go on and on with more and better citations, but you get the point and I have other things to do. On a side note, I wonder what oppositional disorder compels someone to waste their time arguing clearly irrational and anti factual points on the internet. Touch grass, bud.
Do you understand the difference between "reduce" and "eliminate"? Has anyone ever said that having more fathers in the home would magically eliminate all gun violence in the country? What is it you think you're actually arguing here?
I don’t see how having a father in the home reduces gun violence. There have been many recent instances of mass shooters having both parents present in the home.
Kirk’s comments don’t line up with reality in the context. I’m not arguing just observing.
Sure, because maybe the very specific small class of gun violence, mass shooters, isn't greatly affected by having a father in the home. The reasons behind these kinds of shootings are probably very different to gang related shootings, which are far more common.
Try to put a bit more thought in before you reflexively respond with your "observations".
https://youtu.be/rMzr5cDKza0?si=kgagHApkunxuL8ox
I’ve seen all the clips. I know what I saw. I’m not regurgitating anything
I don't recall her name but the black woman recently separated from the Washington Post discussed on today's ATW is hysterical. She worked for a publication that did as much as any in the Leftwing media to demonize conservatives. As an example, if I recall, and I think I do, Jennifer Rubin wrote in its pages in 2020 how Trump and his supporters had to be quarantined from "polite society.". But she managed to find that the locus of the cause of Charlie Kirk's assassination was not the WaPo but, instead, those same white conservatives that her former employer insulted so routinely because they did not pass gun control (which probably wouldn't have included the hunting rifle used by Kirk's murderer).
To be fair, the left is physically sicker and on more medication than the right.
I'd imagine there's a body-brain connection there
No doubt….. over 25% of leftist women are on some form of psycho drug, with over 50% reported to be depressed, etc. I’d be depressed too if I got up in the morning to face me.
Maybe they know it and that's why they were insane hypochondriacs during covid.
The left is sicker than the right in this country. Fact. And I am not saying this because I am a biased right-winger. Rather, I now consider myself to be on the right because it became quite clear by no later than a few months into the Biden administration (which I stupidly voted for) that the left is sicker than the right in this country. And by now, it isn't even close.
That is how it seems to me as well, but I am always trying to see it from their side of the fence. How could so many fall for such an obviously false narrative? One that is harmful to us and our future generations. But I have slowly come to the realization that the right is controlled by the same monsters, in disguise, keeping us arguing while they implement their total digital control system. If we do not love one another for our flaws and see past our differences, we will be in dire straits. Many on the left are just confused and believe the news. They are not the screaming lunatics portrayed in the media. We all are victims of the psy-op, all of us. We need to unite against the true enemy, not our neighbors.
Thank you Matt and Walter for helping me look at various angles to this sad state of our country. God bless you both, and be safe
I miss the good old days when the Onion was funny, but this is pretty amusing......... :) :) :)
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-wondering-if-maybe-they-should-stop-saying-the-things-assassins-are-having-engraved-on-bullets?utm_source=The%20Babylon%20Bee%20Newsletter&utm_medium=email
MAGA divisions growing along with disgust with the leadership of the Democratic party and then this assassination happens. Who benefits from this? Who wanted Charlie Kirk dead? Who did he threaten? Where is the investigation into the murder itself?
The rules have changed now. Hate Defamation is now a threat. Be on guard for defamation tests in workplaces. If accusations of hate are not immediately challenged as at least harassment if not incitement or threat, silence is tantamount to confession of hate to the accuser.
Outside the workplace, insult defamers as either stupid or accuse them of inciting violence. If they make a direct threat, TAUNT IT, and if they attack, strike them down. Get guards if you can’t fight. Guards be ready to defend speakers. This is organized leftist crime. If they attack in numbers, it is deadly force, which may be repelled by deadly force. Carry and train for tactical movement and shot skill, or hire or barter for security if needed. This is a domestic insurgency perpetrated by a Marxist terrorist factions in collusion with rogue deep state terror sponsors, foreign drug gangs and foreign terrorists. Prepare and stand guard as a volunteer and offer paid security services if you have training. We are at war.